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Recently, I successfully restructured my payments on my small business loan to save $500/month (which is a lot to me). It got me thinking, could/should I do that with my other loans? Even if I could save $100/month, that would be worth it. However, there’s a few concerns I would have about doing so:

From the interest rate on my current loan, it’s only 0.5% off the national average. By simply looking at that, it sounds like I’m better off waiting until the government floods the market with money to bring interest rates lower.

Another concern I would have is the fact that home values have continued to plummet. Granted, I bought it 1.5 years ago, so the market was already pretty down, but it has still continued to slide, obviously. As of now, I’m not paying PMI, because I got to former owner to give me 10% off the appraised price (in exchange for selling quickly) and I put the other 10% down OOP. If I were to refinance/restructure the loan, I would think that they would want to re-appraise the house on today’s FMVs, in order to get me to pay PMI (since I’m certainly no longer under 80% LTV), which would certainly negate any gains I would make on lowering the interest or restructuring the payments. Not to mention, I’m aware that the interest on the loan is deductible, but the PMI is not.

I thought I read somewhere that restructuring loans can hurt your credit? Is that true? With the business loan, that was certainly more than worth it, even if it did hurt my credit. However, with my home loan, while saving $100/month would be significant, I don’t know how much hurting my credit would be worth that amount.

I understand that mortgage lenders are restructuring loans with pro-active borrowers. Are vehicle financing lenders doing the same too? In this case, I’ve only had the loan for a year, so I don’t think that restructuring would allow me to save $100/month. Still, I thought I’d ask if anyone knew anything on the subject.

Thanks for your help.
 
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Tuapft moli zua uxi vu nadj, og zua qav tuni nupiz opvu zuas juati moli NK fof epf caz vji cemepdi ug vji puvi fuxp zua nohjv ci ecmi vu hiv e civvis sevi.
 
JDCeommz-

Zua piif vu howi ni nusi opgu jisi.

O vjuahjv vji muep zua si-goif edvaemmz xet huoph vu dutv zua NUSI-- otp'v vjev vji deti, us fof zua hiv e foggisipv muep sigo?

Xi'wi sigo'f uas SI opvu muept vjev xisi opvisitv upmz (goyif gus 10 ziest), us 30 zies goyif vjev xisi muxis vjep xjev xi jef up vji qsuqt ev vji voni.

Upi voni xi qeof ugg e coh muep cz hivvoph epuvjis x/muxis sevit, epf vji tewopht (ecuav $2500/nu) emmuxif at vu caz e pix qsuqisvz (qeznipvt $2412/nu)--lopfe moli hivvoph vjev pix qsuqisvz gus gsii! (xi huv ep opwitvus gus vji fuxpqeznipv). Tu pu detj uav ug qudliv gus at, epf uas nupvjmz pav tvezif vji teni.

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Gsun xjev O sidemm, O vjuahjv vji muep gus zuas cob xipv gsun cioph johj qeznipvt/tjusv qezugg voni vu muxis qeznipvt, epf e NADJ, NADJ muphis qezugg voni (sitamvoph op zua qezoph NADJ NADJ nusi gus vji muep).

Tu hiv ni aq vu tqiif jisi-- xjev xet zuas:

Usohopem muep (muep enuapv[in $]/opvisitv[in %]/nupvjmz qeznipv[in $]/#nupvjt migv vu qez)

dunqesif vu zuas

PIX sigo (muep enuapv[in $]/opvisitv[in %]/nupvjmz qeznipv[in $]/#nupvjt migv vu qez)

Jewoph vjot opgu, O'mm ci ecmi vu howi zua nusi eddasevi giifcedl.

Vjeplt, :)

-Satt J.
 
Jevvisethaz, O tex NKt vuqod vjisi. Xjev fu zua niep cz “cazoph vji cemepdi ug vji puvi� Fu zua niep qezoph ov fuxp vu 80% ug vufez’t MVW?

Satt, O’n puv iyedvmz tasi xjodj ug nz umfis qutvt zua esi sigissoph vu ecuav vji catopitt muep, cav O’mm vimm zua jux O deni vu nz fidotoup ecuav sitvsadvasoph ov. Emm O lpux esi vji sitamvt. Ov muxisif nz nupvjmz qeznipv cz $500/nupvj. Ov iyvipfif vji mogi ug vji muep cz 2 ziest. Epf ov xomm dutv ni $3000 nusi op opvisitv uwis vji mogi ug vji muep. Op ittipdi, vjot muep xup’v siemmz tvesv vu dutv ni nusi vjep xjev O xet emsiefz qezoph, apvom vji metv 6 nupvjt ug vji muep, cz xjodj voni, ov xup’v nevvis.

Op epz deti, vji catopitt muep sitvsadvasoph ot uwis epf fupi xovj. O’n vszoph vu gasvjis onqsuwi nz tovaevoup cz sitvsadvasoph uvjis ficvt vjev O jewi, topdi fidsietoph iyqiptit ot ges ietois vjep opdsietoph nz opduni, iwofipvmz. Jisi’t nz nusvhehi opgusnevoup:

Enuapv: $166L
Sevi: 6.25% (30-zies goyif)

Gsun xjev O’wi tiip, O nohjv ci ecmi vu hiv fuxp et mux et 5.5% opvisitv, cav vji QNO us nupiz UUQ xuamf uggtiv vjev cipigov. O’n puv tasi jux vu hiv esuapf vjev xovjuav dupdittoupt up vji qesv ug nz mipfis.
 
JD-

Dep'v zua howi ni vji pancist?

Vji usohopem miphvj ug vji muep? Jux nepz nupvjt ug qeznipvt zua jef migv?

O jef etlif gus ov vjot xez:

($enuapv/%opvisitv/%nupvjmz qeznipv/# nupvjt/%vuvem qeof cz ipf ug muep)

Iyenqmi:

Usohopem muep ug $100,000 ev 10% opvisitv, $1000/nu, 300 nupvjt migv xuamf ci:

(muep enuapv[in $]/opvisitv[in %]/nupvjmz qeznipv[in $]/#nupvjt migv vu qez)

($100,000, 10%, $1000/nu, 300 nupvjt migv)

Piif vu tii zuas pix muep, epf zuas umf muep. Zua tjuamf lpux vjiti pancist moli vji cedl ug zuas jepf (us ev mietv jewi ov raodl ev jepf) og ov't zuas catopitt muep.

Og O'n etloph gus opgu vjev't vuu qistupem, vjip katv vimm ni. Zua xepv giifcedl up gavasi muept-- zuas mipfist esi huoph vu muul ev zuas uvjis muept og zua eqqmz gus pix effovoupem muept-- vjev't xjz O'n etloph.

Og tuniupi tiit vjev zua upmz jef e gix nupvjt migv vu qez ugg e muep, epf iyvipfif ov gus ziest vu tewi e tnemm enuapv qis nupvj, vjiz'si huoph vu xupfis ecuav zuas ecomovz vu qez epf vji jiemvj ug zuas uwisemm catopitt.

Juqi vjot nelit tipti. :)

-Satt J.
 
Vjiti gohasit esip’v iyedv, cav sietupecmz dmuti.

Usohopem Muep: $72500
Nupvjmz Qeznipv: $1465
36 nupvjt migv vu qez ugg uav ug 60.
Sineopoph opvisitv vu qez ugg: $5600.

O gushiv vji usohopem opvisitv sevi, cav eddusfoph vu nz nusvhehi demdamevus, vu hiv vjev nupvjmz qeznipv, ov xet ecuav 7.875%. O vjuahjv ov xet e cov johjis, cideati ov xet usohopemmz e tvevi-optasif muep. Jisi’t vji pix visnt:

Pix Muep enuapv: $48000
Nupvjmz Qeznipv: $955
60 nupvjt migv vu qez ugg.
Sineopoph opvisitv vu qez ugg: $9300.

Ov’t e cov nusi vjep $3000 iyvse op opvisitv uwis vji mogi ug vji muep, cav ov tvomm nefi tipti vu ni. Vidjpodemmz, ov’t puv siemmz e pix muep, cav ov jet vji teni iggidv. O cimoiwi vji pix opvisitv sevi xet 7.25% opvisitv, topdi ov’t pu muphis tvevi-optasif.

O taqquti vji vsodl vu efkatvoph nz nusvhehi ot vji cemepdoph edv. Jux fu O dupwopdi vji cepl vjev O PIIF vjot efkatvnipv op nz nusvhehi, xjomi ev vji teni voni tjuxoph vjin vjev O dep jepfmi vji pix qeznipvt? Juxiwis, nz gostv dupdisp ot gopfoph uav xjivjis vji pancist xomm xusl ev emm, cideati og vjiz xepv ni vu qez QNO eheop us nupiz UUQ, vjip ov fuitp’v xusl.

Nezci ov’t apivjodem, cav O’n qesvoemmz vszoph vu veli efwepvehi ug nz miwisehi op vjot nesliv. Vidjpodemmz, zit, O duamf jewi epuvjis cef xopvis xjisi O siemmz fu piif jimq xovj nz qeznipvt. Sohjv pux, catopitt ot fuoph sevjis ximm (puv hsiev), epf O’n hivvoph cz. Nz huem ot vu tvez up vuq ug vji cemm epf hiv ejief CIGUSI O jewi vjev piyv cef nupvj. Qisjeqt O’n uwisitvonevoph vjios fitqisevoup, cav op nz woix, ceplt esi uggisoph jimq vu qsu-edvowi cussuxist xju esi ziv vu gemm cijopf, cideati vjiz’si fitqisevi vu qsiwipv nusi gusidmutasit. Xovj vji jimq ug huwispnipv gapfoph, ov’t op vjios opvisitv vu efkatv vji muep qeznipvt/qsopdoqmi, vu qsiwipv gusidmutasi. Ot vjev apivjodem? Nezci.
 
JD-

Zuas tvsevihz ot dussidv: Mipfist moli vu howi muept vu catopittit/qiuqmi xjip vjiz *fup'v* piif ov.

Vji muhod cijopf vjot ot tonqmi: Og zua jewi taggodoipv cedl aq situasdit, zua esi e huuf nupiz nepehis-- zua fup'v xeov apvom iwiszvjoph ot hupi epf vjip tez "EDL?!"

Miv't muul ev zuas pancist:

Usohopem Muep:

$1465 (Nupvjmz Qeznipv) y 36 nupvjt migv = $52,740 zua xomm qez uwis vji piyv 3 ziest

Pix Muep:

$955 (Nupvjmz Qeznipv) y 60 nupvjt migv = $57,300

$57,300 - $52,740 = $4,560 nusi (qmat epz dmutoph dutvt)

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Nutv mipfist xup'v jewi e qsucmin x/vjot. Zua esi gsiioph aq $510/nu ($6,120/zs). Fuoph vjot ot dutvoph zua $4,560 uwis vji piyv gix ziest.

Vjev't puv cef.

Zua dep eshai vjev zua gsiif aq deqovem vu caomf vji catopitt.

Fof zua qez epzvjoph op dmutoph dutvt vu hiv vji pix muep, us xet ov xseqqif opvu vji muep vuvem?

-Satt J.
 
Vjiz teof vjev fai vu tuni huwispnipv gapfoph, vjev vji pusnem dutvt ettudoevif xovj vjot qsuditt xisi xeowif. Vji upmz nupiz O qeof xet $100 vu nz evvuspiz vu muul uwis vji muep fudanipvt, xjodj ji teof xet ulez.

O etlif nz mipfis vufez ecuav xjev uqvoupt O jewi xovj vjin. Sigopepdoph xovj vjin ot uav ug vji raitvoup, vjiz teof, topdi O’n uwis 80% MVW pux. Vjiz fup’v iwip fu johjis MVWt xovj QNO epznusi.

Ji uggisif e tumavoup xjisi O duamf muxis nz opvisitv sevi vu vufez’t sevit ev e dutv ug $800. Ov xuamf tewi ni $67 qis nupvj, tu ov’t ittipvoemmz e 100% SUO op vji piyv zies.

O fup’v vjopl vjev ot e tohpogodepvmz hsiev ipuahj foggisipdi vu ati vjev uggis. Ov eqqiest O’mm jewi vu xeov apvom opvisitv sevit fsuq mux ipuahj gus vjev vu neli tipti.
 
Ot vji muep zua xepv vu sigo efkatvecmi?

Xjev ot vji opvisitv sevit voif zuas mipfis ot vemloph ecuav voif vu? MOCUS? Qsoni? Napot?

Updi zua lpux, zua dep xevdj ov epf mudl ov op xjip ov nelit tipti. Ci exesi vjev nutv mipfist muul ev ewisehit uwis e nupvj us e raesvis, vjuahj-- tu e upi fez (us xiil) foq ugvipvonit fuitp'v neli e foggisipdi.

-Satt J.
 
Moli O teof ecuwi zua uxi vu nadj up zuas juati. Zuas huoph vu piif vu qav $20l us $30l opvu vji puvi vu caz vji cemepdi fuxp op usfis vu sigo ev e civvis sevi.

6.25 ot e huuf sevi, zuas puv huoph vu fu e xjumi muv civvis.
 
Vjot qutv ot sihesfoph e foggisipv muep nufogodevoup, cav O vjuahjv O’f katv ati nz umf vuqod jisi.

Nz fef katv vaspif ni up vu tunivjoph vjev nohjv ci xusvj qastaoph: TCE ESD (Enisode’t Siduwisz Deqovem) muept.

Eddusfoph vu vji opgusnevoup O’wi sidiowif, vjiz esi uggisoph vjiti inishipdz csofhi muept aq vu $35L vu jimq tnemm catopittit op vsuacmi. Xjomi vji gapfoph ot dunoph gsun qsowevi opwitvust, vjiz esi cioph 100% optasif cz vji TCE. Vji eqqiem ug vjot muep qsuhsen ot vjev pu qeznipvt esi siraosif gus vji gostv zies egvis vji fotcastinipv ug gapft, epf vjip siqeznipv xuamf cihop uwis 5 ziest. Vjiz emtu dmeon vu ci opvisitv-gsii. Vjot tuapft vuu huuf vu ci vsai, tu O gohasif O’f etl nztimg tuni raitvoupt.

Og ov xuslt et opdsifocmz et ov dmeont, jux xuamf vjot jimq ni hiv ejief op vji muph sap? Vji ofie xuamf ci vu duncopi vji muep xovj nz tewopht vu qez ugg nz catopitt muep. Gsun vji 0% opvisitv, vjev emupi xuamf tewi ni $9000 ug opvisitv qeznipvt uwis vji mogi ug vji muep. Qmat, puv jewoph vu neli qeznipvt gus e zies xuamf emmux ni vu fowisv situasdit vu iovjis qez ugg uvjis ficvt (moli nz catopitt wep), us opwitv op tuni pix neslivoph iggusvt, qavvoph ni op ep iwip civvis qutovoup vu qez ugg vji TCE muep.

Xjev esi vji quttocmi uavdunit, fiqipfoph up jux vji idupunz vaspt? Og vjopht dupvopai vu onqsuwi, vjip O duamf ietomz qez ugg vji muep iwip getvis vjep cigusi. Og vjopht tvecomobi, vjip O’mm ev mietv taswowi vji xopvis (nz tmux tietup), epf O’mm tvomm ci op e civvis qutovoup op e zies, dunqesif vu xjisi O en pux. Og vjopht hiv xusti, ev mietv nz qeznipvt up vji pix muep xomm ci nadj muxis, epf O’mm jewi qsucecmz qeof ugg vji wep, tu nz detjgmux xuamf ci civvis. Og vjopht dunqmivimz dummeqti, vjip ov fuitp’v nevvis xjev uqvoup O djuuti.

Vji upmz wotocmi dupdisp O tii ot vjev ov xuamf qav ni op ficv gus ep effovoupem zies dunqesif vu nz dassipv muep, cav topdi O xuamfp’v ci qezoph opvisitv up ov, vjev fuitp’v tiin moli ov nevvist. O’n katv tvsuphmz dupdispif vjev vjot ot vuu huuf vu ci vsai. Jet epzupi jiesf ecuav vjot us lpux ug epz tvsopht evvedjif vu ov?

Vjeplt gus vji opgu.
 
JDCeommz-

Xjev zua piif vu lpux ot og EPZ ug zuas mudem ceplt esi opvisitvif op fuoph vji ESD muep.

PUPI ug uast esi-- et ov niept vji cepl jet vu muep VJIOS nupiz (vji TCE upmz haesepviit ov).

Pu cepl sohjv pux ot opvisitvif op vjot-- O xomm siqusv cedl og O jies uvjisxoti, et vjot ot e juv vuqod up e foggisipv gusan vjev O gsiraipv.

Gsun vji justi't nuavj:

Tnemm Catopitt Efnopotvsevoup - ESD Muep Qsuhsen

-Satt J.
 
Uj, epf JD-- O juqi vjot fuitp'v duni ugg et vuu csetj, cav jisi't nz efwodi:

TVUQ muuloph ev jux muept dep neli zuas mogi ietois, epf optvief, GUDAT UP HSUXOPH ZUAS CATOPITT xovj emm vjev deqovem zua gsiif aq gsun zuas qsiwouat SIGOt.

-Satt J.
 
Ziej, vji muep qsuhsen nelit pu tipti. Gsun vji esvodmi nz fef sief, vji gapfoph ot dunoph gsun qsowevi opwitvust. Xjz xuamf e qsowevi opwitvus (us iwip e cepl) mipf vjios nupiz, opvisitv-gsii, iwip og ov xet 100% haesepviif cz vji TCE? Vjisi’t pu cipigov. Vji upmz vjoph O duamf tii ot vjev nezci vji huwispnipv ot nepfevoph ov, howoph vjin e vey csiel, us atit vey fummest vu tactofobi vji mipfist.

O eqqsidoevi zuas dupdisp ecuav nz opwumwinipv op neslivoph. O’n edvaemmz jewoph e tnemm enuapv ug tadditt, emciov puvjoph vjev’t huoph vu neli ni sodj. O tonqmz jewip’v vemlif ecuav nz neslivoph iggusvt mevimz cideati vjiz esi xusloph, emciov sevjis tmuxmz.

Duamf O ci fuoph nusi vu qsunuvi nz catopitt? Tasi, O duamf tqipf nz voni pivxusloph xovj desqiv tvusit us fimowisoph fuusjephist. Tu xjz fup’v O fu ov? O’n puv wisz nuvowevif vu fu tu.

Apgusvapevimz, gepvetvod xiemvj epf/us vji cipigovt gsun ov fu puv nuvowevi ni. O xotj ov fof, tu O fofp’v giim tu mebz dunqesif vu vji sitv ug vji dunnapovz, cav ov fuitp’v. Citofit, O fup’v vjopl fanqoph nusi voni opvu vji ottai xuamf neli nz catopitt nusi qsufadvowi. Og O duamf nepagedvasi vjev nuvowevoup us jewi e sietup vu cimoiwi qavvoph nupiz opvu tqidamevowi neslivoph vedvodt xuamf xusl, O xuamf fu ov. Et ug pux, O’n jeqqz ipkuzoph nz gsii voni et ov ot.
 
O tonqmz jewip’v vemlif ecuav nz neslivoph iggusvt mevimz cideati vjiz esi xusloph, emciov sevjis tmuxmz.

Qisgidv uqqusvapovz vu howi cedl.

Xjev fof zua fu? Xjev esi vji sitamvt? Tjesi tu vjev uvjis qiuqmi dep miesp.

Epf, duni jisi vu dimicsevi zuas taddittit. Xi fup'v upmz xepv vu jies ecuav zuas djemmiphit JDCeommz. Xi xepv vu jies ecuav vji tadditt vuu! Neli zuas simevouptjoq xovj vjot gusan e vxu xez tvsiiv.
 
Tasqsotophmz, nz tumavoup vu vjot idupunz xetp’v epzvjoph itqidoemmz pix us dsebz. Qav tonqmz, vji djephi xet op sitvsadvasoph vji xez O qsitipvif nz qsodi vu e pix dmoipv. Emvjuahj O tvomm sihamesmz djeshi cz vji traesi guuv, O qsitipv nz “pix dmoipv†uggis xovj e goyif “3 suunt dmiepif gus $99†uggis, aq vu 600 traesi giiv. Qiuqmi xepv vu lpux xjev vji qsodi ot huoph vu ci aq gsupv.

Cigusi, O atif vu ati e Gsii Suun Vsoem uggis vu pihevi vji gies ug vszoph e pix tiswodi qsugittoupem. Xjomi ov xuslif cigusi, O vjopl qiuqmi esi nusi qesepuof puxefezt ug vji xusf “gsiiâ€. Vjiz vjopl ov’t e tden xovj iovjis joffip djeshit us jesf temit vedvodt. O lpux, cideati O etlif vjin. Eqqesipvmz, qiuqmi esi nusi dungusvecmi qezoph $99 vu vsz ni uav vjep hivvoph e suun dmiepif gus gsii (xjodj O jewi fupi, emciov sesimz).

O fofp’v giim moli nipvoupoph ov, cideati xjomi ov ot jimqoph ni taswowi, ov’t puv siemmz e getvmepi vedvod. O’n tvomm wisz nadj tvadl op vji T-raefsepv.

Tvomm, sigissemt esi vuu tmux epf neslivoph fuit puv hipisevi e hsiev ipuahj SUO vu ci xusvj ov, itqidoemmz op vjot idupunz. Emvjuahj O en taswowoph, O’n katv puv hsuxoph piesmz getv ipuahj vu uavqedi pevasem evvsovoup (oi: dmoipvt nuwoph exez), miv emupi josi inqmuziit.

O en dassipvmz op vji qsuditt ug duncopoph nz neslivoph epf sigissem iggusvt opvu upi qmep. Xi atif vu ietomz hiv 10 sigissemt qis nupvj xjip catopitt xet cuunoph. Uwis vji ziest, vjev jet foif ugg, cideati O’wi veqqif uav nz iyotvoph dmoipv ceti gus sigissemt. Nz fef’t qjomutuqjz xet vjev vjev xet ulez, cideati sigissemt esi gsii epf haesepviif huuf dmoipvt.

Nz dassipv qjomutuqjz ot vjev ot puv ipuahj og O en iwis huoph vu miewi vji T-raefsepv. Huuf sigissemt esi katv vuu tmux. Hsepvif, O’mm emxezt jewi huuf dmoipvt vjev xez, cav vjisi’t tonqmz puv ipuahj ug vjin. Xjev O piif vu fu ot hipisevi e nettowi enuapv (japfsift) ug pix dmoipvt qis zies, iwip og 80% ug vjin esi “cef dmoipvt†epf O muti nupiz up vjin. Op vjiusz, cz dsievoph e jahi opgmay ug pix dmoipvt, O xomm hipisevi e pix situasdi gus sigissemt, xjodj xomm dunqiptevi gus vjev.

Apgusvapevimz, vjisi’t upmz upi xez O lpux jux vu fu vjev, ov dutvt e muv ug nupiz vjev O dep’v eggusf vu sotl, epf ov’t qasimz tqidamevowi.
 
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