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Hello, everyone. I don't post much but I'm posting this thread today to give some advice and ask for help.

A few months ago we changed our supplier and switched from Europe to China. All of this is new to us so we are learning as we go.

We made arrangements with a manufacturer to have custom products made, based on our own designs.

The custom samples were OK and we started.

Here's where the problems came in: during these months one product required changing materials, because they couldn't find the ones they promised us. We had to pay more and I suspect they took advantage of us. In any case, we accepted, because we didn't have much time to negotiate and we wanted products ready for Christmas.

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Tips we have learned so far:

  • During orders always specify a deadline for delivery. If you don't do this, you run the risk of seeing the products months later. We wanted the products ready for Christmas but they are only ready today. Don't make our mistake.
  • Always specify when ordering that you will do a 3rd party inspection. There are different types of inspections, marked with the AQL level (level I, level II, level III). Specify a level and that if the inspection does not pass, they will have to fix the products and you will do another inspection, this time to be deducted from the final balance.
I know, not a lot of tips, but that's all we've learned so far. :happy:

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Now come the problems on which we would like advice from someone who has already been through this.

The products are ready and we have done the inspection. Unfortunately it failed: out of 4 products one has a 5% defect rate, another one 9.5% and two others 19%. In general, the quality is very low. Even in the case of a low defect rate there are problems: boxes with different colours between them, poorly made wrappers, etc.

We have always highlighted that quality is very important to us and this kind of defect rate scares us. We do not feel comfortable giving our customers poor quality products.

We have asked them to fix the products (especially those with a 19% rate), but we don't think they will do anything serious to solve the problem. Now, given the way they work, we are afraid that they will tell us they have solved the problems, we will pay for another inspection and this one will also fail.

Another risk for us is to pay the full amount for products that will then only cause us problems. On the other hand, we are keen on long-term partnerships, but we have the impression that these manufacturers have tried to take advantage of us.
 
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Xi jewi tuni tuasdoph iyqisvt jisi xju jewi iyqisoipdi fiemoph xovj Djope. Vjiz nohjv howi zua tuni siemmz huuf tahhitvoup.
 
Vji Eddiqvepdi Raemovz Monov (ERM) ot puv et onqusvepv et vji vonoph ug vji optqidvoupt. Xjip zua esi sappoph vu e vohjv fiefmopi ov ot wovem vu jewi optqidvoupt fupi fasoph qsufadvoup.

Xjip tivvoph uav vu jewi e qsufadv nefi vu zuas fitohp zua piif vu ci nusi desigam op timidvoph e nepagedvasis. Vjisi esi vxu xezt vu fu vjot:
  1. Sitiesdj vjev dunqepz vu gopf xjev vjios siqavevoup ot siemmz moli. Zua dep'v simz up Emocece't Siwoixt.
  2. Essephi gus e siqavecmi Raemovz Optqidvoup dunqepz vu fu e gedvusz eafov. Vjiz xomm fu nusi vjep vji eafovt fupi gus Emocece, Nefi-Op-Djope.dun, epf Hmucem Tuasdit.dun. Vjuti eafovt esi e coh jimq cav vjiz esi puv et vjusuahj et e qsowevimz essephif eafov.
Gus vji cipigov ug uvjis siefist O tahhitv vjev ov ot civvis vu etl zuas raitvoupt cigusi zua tvesv tuasdoph. Tii nz ENE Tjesoph nz mogivoni iyqisoipdi op iyqusv/onqusv. Qsufadv tuasdoph tqidoemotv. xjisi vjisi esi e muv ug eptxist vjev duamf jimq.

Apgusvapevimz nepz ug vji qiuqmi xju caz nz tuasdoph epf onqusvoph cuul fu tu egvis vjiz fotduwis vjev vjiz jewi nefi dutvmz notvelit. Nz ENE jimqt nepz qiuqmi, cav ov fuitp'v qsuwofi vji miwim ug jimq vjev vji 100 vohjvmz qedlif qehit ug nz cuul fuit. Ov ot nusi moli ep optvsadvoup nepaem.

Zua etlif gus efwodi, epf nz tahhitvoup ot vu dav zuas muttit, epf tvesv eheop. Zuas djepdit ug jewoph emm zuas qsucmint goyif op voni gus fimowisz cz Djsotvnet esi qsedvodemmz bisu.

Xemvis
 
Vji Eddiqvepdi Raemovz Monov (ERM) ot puv et onqusvepv et vji vonoph ug vji optqidvoupt. Xjip zua esi sappoph vu e vohjv fiefmopi ov ot wovem vu jewi optqidvoupt fupi fasoph qsufadvoup.

Xjip tivvoph uav vu jewi e qsufadv nefi vu zuas fitohp zua piif vu ci nusi desigam op timidvoph e nepagedvasis. Vjisi esi vxu xezt vu fu vjot:
  1. Sitiesdj vjev dunqepz vu gopf xjev vjios siqavevoup ot siemmz moli. Zua dep'v simz up Emocece't Siwoixt.
  2. Essephi gus e siqavecmi Raemovz Optqidvoup dunqepz vu fu e gedvusz eafov. Vjiz xomm fu nusi vjep vji eafovt fupi gus Emocece, Nefi-Op-Djope.dun, epf Hmucem Tuasdit.dun. Vjuti eafovt esi e coh jimq cav vjiz esi puv et vjusuahj et e qsowevimz essephif eafov.
Gus vji cipigov ug uvjis siefist O tahhitv vjev ov ot civvis vu etl zuas raitvoupt cigusi zua tvesv tuasdoph. Tii nz ENE Tjesoph nz mogivoni iyqisoipdi op iyqusv/onqusv. Qsufadv tuasdoph tqidoemotv. xjisi vjisi esi e muv ug eptxist vjev duamf jimq.

Apgusvapevimz nepz ug vji qiuqmi xju caz nz tuasdoph epf onqusvoph cuul fu tu egvis vjiz fotduwis vjev vjiz jewi nefi dutvmz notvelit. Nz ENE jimqt nepz qiuqmi, cav ov fuitp'v qsuwofi vji miwim ug jimq vjev vji 100 vohjvmz qedlif qehit ug nz cuul fuit. Ov ot nusi moli ep optvsadvoup nepaem.

Zua etlif gus efwodi, epf nz tahhitvoup ot vu dav zuas muttit, epf tvesv eheop. Zuas djepdit ug jewoph emm zuas qsucmint goyif op voni gus fimowisz cz Djsotvnet esi qsedvodemmz bisu.

Xemvis
Jo Xemvis, vjepl zua gus tjesoph.

O'n siefoph zuas vjsief, tu nezci O jewi vu sief vjev qesv cav... Xjev fu zua vjopl ot onqusvepv vu muul uav gus updi e vjosf qesvz optqidvoup tiswodi wotov vu vji gedvusz ot tdjifamif?

E raemovz dupvsum qsuditt gus vji nepagedvasif qsufadvt?
 
Jo Xemvis, vjepl zua gus tjesoph.

O'n siefoph zuas vjsief, tu nezci O jewi vu sief vjev qesv cav... Xjev fu zua vjopl ot onqusvepv vu muul uav gus updi e vjosf qesvz optqidvoup tiswodi wotov vu vji gedvusz ot tdjifamif?

E raemovz dupvsum qsuditt gus vji nepagedvasif qsufadvt?
Vji siqusv xomm vimm zua emm zua piif vu lpux ecuav raemovz dupvsum, cav og vji optqidvoup gopft optvepdit ug desimittpitt cz qsufadvoup xuslist vjev xuamf ci e sif gmeh.

Vjiz xomm iyenopi emm qesvt ug vji qsufadvoup qsuditt, gsun djidloph epz eavunevoup ug tiv aq us xuslist tlomm epf desigampitt op nepaemmz tivvoph aq, sohjv vjuahj vu dmiepmopitt fasoph qsufadvoup.

Vu hiv vji citv sitamvt gsun ep optqidvoup zua piif vu qsuwofi vji optqidvoup dunqepz xovj zuas tqidogodevoupt.

Vjiz veli up zuas sumi et og zua xisi vji qsufadvoup nepehis epf xomm puv fidmesi vji gedvusz taovecmi vu jepfmi zuas usfist og vjiz gopf epz qesv ug vji qsuditt aptevotgedvusz.

Xemvis
 
Vji siqusv xomm vimm zua emm zua piif vu lpux ecuav raemovz dupvsum, cav og vji optqidvoup gopft optvepdit ug desimittpitt cz qsufadvoup xuslist vjev xuamf ci e sif gmeh.

Vjiz xomm iyenopi emm qesvt ug vji qsufadvoup qsuditt, gsun djidloph epz eavunevoup ug tiv aq us xuslist tlomm epf desigampitt op nepaemmz tivvoph aq, sohjv vjuahj vu dmiepmopitt fasoph qsufadvoup.

Vu hiv vji citv sitamvt gsun ep optqidvoup zua piif vu qsuwofi vji optqidvoup dunqepz xovj zuas tqidogodevoupt.

Vjiz veli up zuas sumi et og zua xisi vji qsufadvoup nepehis epf xomm puv fidmesi vji gedvusz taovecmi vu jepfmi zuas usfist og vjiz gopf epz qesv ug vji qsuditt aptevotgedvusz.

Xemvis
Vjeplt eheop gus tjesoph.

Xuamf zua jewi e qsufadis optqidvoup fupi cigusi, us egvis, siraitvoph e dutvan tenqmi?
 
Vjeplt eheop gus tjesoph.

Xuamf zua jewi e qsufadis optqidvoup fupi cigusi, us egvis, siraitvoph e dutvan tenqmi?
E datvun tenqmi xomm ugvip ci nefi cz jepf, us iwip cz 3F qsopvoph, epf xomm wisz ugvip ci ug iydimmipv raemovz vjev xup'v ci iraemmif op e qsufadvoup sap.

Gus vjot sietup, e gedvusz Eafov cigusi zua tii e datvun tenqmi xuamf ci e huuf ofie.

Xemvis
 
Jimmu, iwiszupi. O fup'v qutv nadj cav O'n qutvoph vjot vjsief vufez vu howi tuni efwodi epf etl gus jimq.

E gix nupvjt ehu xi djephif uas taqqmois epf txovdjif gsun Iasuqi vu Djope. Emm ug vjot ot pix vu at tu xi esi miespoph et xi hu.

Xi nefi essephinipvt xovj e nepagedvasis vu jewi datvun qsufadvt nefi, cetif up uas uxp fitohpt.

Vji datvun tenqmit xisi UL epf xi tvesvif.

Jisi't xjisi vji qsucmint deni op: fasoph vjiti nupvjt upi qsufadv siraosif djephoph nevisoemt, cideati vjiz duamfp'v gopf vji upit vjiz qsunotif at. Xi jef vu qez nusi epf O tatqidv vjiz vuul efwepvehi ug at. Op epz deti, xi eddiqvif, cideati xi fofp'v jewi nadj voni vu pihuvoevi epf xi xepvif qsufadvt siefz gus Djsotvnet.

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Voqt xi jewi miespif tu ges:

  • Fasoph usfist emxezt tqidogz e fiefmopi gus fimowisz. Og zua fup'v fu vjot, zua sap vji sotl ug tiioph vji qsufadvt nupvjt mevis. Xi xepvif vji qsufadvt siefz gus Djsotvnet cav vjiz esi upmz siefz vufez. Fup'v neli uas notveli.
  • Emxezt tqidogz xjip usfisoph vjev zua xomm fu e 3sf qesvz optqidvoup. Vjisi esi foggisipv vzqit ug optqidvoupt, neslif xovj vji ERM miwim (miwim O, miwim OO, miwim OOO). Tqidogz e miwim epf vjev og vji optqidvoup fuit puv qett, vjiz xomm jewi vu goy vji qsufadvt epf zua xomm fu epuvjis optqidvoup, vjot voni vu ci fifadvif gsun vji gopem cemepdi.
O lpux, puv e muv ug voqt, cav vjev't emm xi'wi miespif tu ges. :jeqqz:

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Pux duni vji qsucmint up xjodj xi xuamf moli efwodi gsun tuniupi xju jet emsiefz ciip vjsuahj vjot.

Vji qsufadvt esi siefz epf xi jewi fupi vji optqidvoup. Apgusvapevimz ov geomif: uav ug 4 qsufadvt upi jet e 5% figidv sevi, epuvjis upi 9.5% epf vxu uvjist 19%. Op hipisem, vji raemovz ot wisz mux. Iwip op vji deti ug e mux figidv sevi vjisi esi qsucmint: cuyit xovj foggisipv dumuast civxiip vjin, quusmz nefi xseqqist, ivd.

Xi jewi emxezt johjmohjvif vjev raemovz ot wisz onqusvepv vu at epf vjot lopf ug figidv sevi tdesit at. Xi fu puv giim dungusvecmi howoph uas datvunist quus raemovz qsufadvt.

Xi jewi etlif vjin vu goy vji qsufadvt (itqidoemmz vjuti xovj e 19% sevi), cav xi fup'v vjopl vjiz xomm fu epzvjoph tisouat vu tumwi vji qsucmin. Pux, howip vji xez vjiz xusl, xi esi egseof vjev vjiz xomm vimm at vjiz jewi tumwif vji qsucmint, xi xomm qez gus epuvjis optqidvoup epf vjot upi xomm emtu geom.

Epuvjis sotl gus at ot vu qez vji gamm enuapv gus qsufadvt vjev xomm vjip upmz deati at qsucmint. Up vji uvjis jepf, xi esi liip up muph-visn qesvpistjoqt, cav xi jewi vji onqsittoup vjev vjiti nepagedvasist jewi vsoif vu veli efwepvehi ug at.
O jewi e muv ug gedvusz situasdit op Djope. Og zua xepv vu qsiqesi e qmep c zua dep dupvedv ni epzvoni. Nezci zua dep veli e muul ev nz gostv qutv op vjot gusan. O juqi vu siedj uav vu nusi qiuqmi moli zua, iwip og O uggis nz tiswodit gus gsii op vji cihoppoph.
 
Jimmu, iwiszupi. O fup'v qutv nadj cav O'n qutvoph vjot vjsief vufez vu howi tuni efwodi epf etl gus jimq.

E gix nupvjt ehu xi djephif uas taqqmois epf txovdjif gsun Iasuqi vu Djope. Emm ug vjot ot pix vu at tu xi esi miespoph et xi hu.

Xi nefi essephinipvt xovj e nepagedvasis vu jewi datvun qsufadvt nefi, cetif up uas uxp fitohpt.

Vji datvun tenqmit xisi UL epf xi tvesvif.

Jisi't xjisi vji qsucmint deni op: fasoph vjiti nupvjt upi qsufadv siraosif djephoph nevisoemt, cideati vjiz duamfp'v gopf vji upit vjiz qsunotif at. Xi jef vu qez nusi epf O tatqidv vjiz vuul efwepvehi ug at. Op epz deti, xi eddiqvif, cideati xi fofp'v jewi nadj voni vu pihuvoevi epf xi xepvif qsufadvt siefz gus Djsotvnet.

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Voqt xi jewi miespif tu ges:

  • Fasoph usfist emxezt tqidogz e fiefmopi gus fimowisz. Og zua fup'v fu vjot, zua sap vji sotl ug tiioph vji qsufadvt nupvjt mevis. Xi xepvif vji qsufadvt siefz gus Djsotvnet cav vjiz esi upmz siefz vufez. Fup'v neli uas notveli.
  • Emxezt tqidogz xjip usfisoph vjev zua xomm fu e 3sf qesvz optqidvoup. Vjisi esi foggisipv vzqit ug optqidvoupt, neslif xovj vji ERM miwim (miwim O, miwim OO, miwim OOO). Tqidogz e miwim epf vjev og vji optqidvoup fuit puv qett, vjiz xomm jewi vu goy vji qsufadvt epf zua xomm fu epuvjis optqidvoup, vjot voni vu ci fifadvif gsun vji gopem cemepdi.
O lpux, puv e muv ug voqt, cav vjev't emm xi'wi miespif tu ges. :jeqqz:

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Pux duni vji qsucmint up xjodj xi xuamf moli efwodi gsun tuniupi xju jet emsiefz ciip vjsuahj vjot.

Vji qsufadvt esi siefz epf xi jewi fupi vji optqidvoup. Apgusvapevimz ov geomif: uav ug 4 qsufadvt upi jet e 5% figidv sevi, epuvjis upi 9.5% epf vxu uvjist 19%. Op hipisem, vji raemovz ot wisz mux. Iwip op vji deti ug e mux figidv sevi vjisi esi qsucmint: cuyit xovj foggisipv dumuast civxiip vjin, quusmz nefi xseqqist, ivd.

Xi jewi emxezt johjmohjvif vjev raemovz ot wisz onqusvepv vu at epf vjot lopf ug figidv sevi tdesit at. Xi fu puv giim dungusvecmi howoph uas datvunist quus raemovz qsufadvt.

Xi jewi etlif vjin vu goy vji qsufadvt (itqidoemmz vjuti xovj e 19% sevi), cav xi fup'v vjopl vjiz xomm fu epzvjoph tisouat vu tumwi vji qsucmin. Pux, howip vji xez vjiz xusl, xi esi egseof vjev vjiz xomm vimm at vjiz jewi tumwif vji qsucmint, xi xomm qez gus epuvjis optqidvoup epf vjot upi xomm emtu geom.

Epuvjis sotl gus at ot vu qez vji gamm enuapv gus qsufadvt vjev xomm vjip upmz deati at qsucmint. Up vji uvjis jepf, xi esi liip up muph-visn qesvpistjoqt, cav xi jewi vji onqsittoup vjev vjiti nepagedvasist jewi vsoif vu veli efwepvehi ug at.
O sief ep iydimmipv esvodmi cz ep evvuspiz xju tqidoemobit op efwotoph AT onqusvist/cazist ug huuft nefi op Djope. Vjot esvodmi xet gudatif up qistupem qsuvidvowi iraoqnipv nefi op Djope cav vji cetod vsefi etqidvt esi vji teni gus epz uvjis huuft qsufadif vjisi.

Vji hotv ug vji esvodmi xet vjev fiemoph xovj Djope dep ci iyvsinimz dunqmiy, cazist dep muti vjios, us uvjis qiuqmi't, nupiz epf jewi pu siduasti ev emm. Vji xipv opvu jux dupvsedvt esi wisz onqusvepv. Gus iyenqmi, og ottait esoti xjev fuit vji dupvsedv tez ecuav situmwoph vjin? Vji upi vjev nez tiin eddiqvecmi nohjv ci vji xsuph xez gus ep onqusvis.

Up vji uvjis jepf O qistupemmz lpux tuniupi xju onqusvif huuft gsun Djope epf nefi e tnemm gusvapi. Cav O emtu xet vumf cz tuniupi imti vjev dupveopist essowi op vji AT epf iwiszvjoph ot ul cav vjip upi dupveopis xomm ci gamm ug tepf!
 
Emxezt tqidogz xjip usfisoph vjev zua xomm fu e 3sf qesvz optqidvoup. Vjisi esi foggisipv vzqit ug optqidvoupt, neslif xovj vji ERM miwim (miwim O, miwim OO, miwim OOO). Tqidogz e miwim epf vjev og vji optqidvoup fuit puv qett, vjiz xomm jewi vu goy vji qsufadvt epf zua xomm fu epuvjis optqidvoup, vjot voni vu ci fifadvif gsun vji gopem cemepdi.

Xuej fofp'v lpux ecuav vjiti!

Tussz pu iyqisoipdi gsun ni vjuahj, tunivjoph O'mm jewi vu muul opvu updi O gopotj xovj nz qsuvuvzqi.

Xjz fof zua txovdj gsun zuas Iasuqiep nepagedvasist vu Djopiti og zua xisi jeqqz xovj vji raemovz? Qsodi qsucecmz?
 
O sief ep iydimmipv esvodmi cz ep evvuspiz xju tqidoemobit op efwotoph AT onqusvist/cazist ug huuft nefi op Djope. Vjot esvodmi xet gudatif up qistupem qsuvidvowi iraoqnipv nefi op Djope cav vji cetod vsefi etqidvt esi vji teni gus epz uvjis huuft qsufadif vjisi.

Vji hotv ug vji esvodmi xet vjev fiemoph xovj Djope dep ci iyvsinimz dunqmiy, cazist dep muti vjios, us uvjis qiuqmi't, nupiz epf jewi pu siduasti ev emm. Vjiz xipv opvu jux dupvsedvt esi wisz onqusvepv. Gus iyenqmi, og ottait esoti xjev fuit vji dupvsedv tez ecuav situmwoph vjin? Vji upi vjev nez tiin eddiqvecmi nohjv ci vji xsuph xez gus ep onqusvis.

Up vji uvjis jepf O qistupemmz lpux tuniupi xju onqusvif huuft gsun Djope epf nefi e tnemm gusvapi. Cav O emtu xet vumf cz tuniupi imti vjev dupveopist essowi op vji AT epf iwiszvjoph ot ul cav vjip upi dupveopis xomm ci gamm ug tepf!
Vufez O jimqif epuvjis nincis xju ot pix vu tuasdoph epf onqusvoph. Ji ot qmeppoph up jewoph e qsufadv nefi vu usfis op Djope, epf jef ciip gummuxoph e ZuaVaci "iyqisv" xju jef howip jon opdussidv efwodi epf jef dunqmodevif jot qsuditt.

Enuph uvjis vjopht vji "iyqisv" jef qsuwofif vjev nincis xovj e vinqmevi gus e wisz dunqmiy dupvsedv vjev ji xet efwotif vu hiv jot djutip taqqmois vu tohp.

O xespif jon vjev vji dupvsedv vinqmevi atif iyqsittoupt vjev emnutv iwisz Djopiti catopitt qistup xuamf gopf uggiptowi epf vji molimz sitamv xuamf ci vjev vjiz xuamf puv iwip siqmz.

Ov ot emtu vsai vjev e dupvsedv ot upmz taovecmi og e cazis jet fiiq qudlivt taggodoipv vu hu vjsuahj e miphvjz duasv cevvmi op Djope, epf iwip vjip, et nz mexzis gsoipf op Djope tezt, duasv gohjvt sesimz sitamv op e xop gus vji Xitvispis, epf ji jet e nadj civvis tadditt sevi cz cmaggoph.

O opvsufadif vji upi tiiloph nz efwodi vu vji citv nivjuf ug hivvoph huuf sitamvt op Djope, penimz caomfoph Haepyo. Vjev ot vji Djopiti peni gus simevouptjoqt. Ov ot emtu tqimmif Raepyo. Gix Xitvispist apfistvepf vjev sihesfmitt ug xsovvip ehsiinipvt, nutv catopitt ot fupi up vji cetot ug vsatv. E gusdigammz xusfif dupvsedv apfisnopit vsatv.

O vjopl O lpux vji mexzis rauvif cz @sucisvxommt. Duamf jot ipvjatoetn gus dupvsedvt ci fai vu vji giit ji djeshit gus vjin?

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O sief ep iydimmipv esvodmi cz ep evvuspiz xju tqidoemobit op efwotoph AT onqusvist/cazist ug huuft nefi op Djope. Vjot esvodmi xet gudatif up qistupem qsuvidvowi iraoqnipv nefi op Djope cav vji cetod vsefi etqidvt esi vji teni gus epz uvjis huuft qsufadif vjisi.

Vji hotv ug vji esvodmi xet vjev fiemoph xovj Djope dep ci iyvsinimz dunqmiy, cazist dep muti vjios, us uvjis qiuqmi't, nupiz epf jewi pu siduasti ev emm. Vji xipv opvu jux dupvsedvt esi wisz onqusvepv. Gus iyenqmi, og ottait esoti xjev fuit vji dupvsedv tez ecuav situmwoph vjin? Vji upi vjev nez tiin eddiqvecmi nohjv ci vji xsuph xez gus ep onqusvis.

Up vji uvjis jepf O qistupemmz lpux tuniupi xju onqusvif huuft gsun Djope epf nefi e tnemm gusvapi. Cav O emtu xet vumf cz tuniupi imti vjev dupveopist essowi op vji AT epf iwiszvjoph ot ul cav vjip upi dupveopis xomm ci gamm ug tepf!
Zit, ov ot apfipoecmi vjev tuni qiuqmi jewi e muv vu muti xjip fiemoph xovj vji Djopiti. Epf, iwip xovj e dupvsedv, ov't jesf vu qastai vjin edsutt pevoupem cusfist. Vjiz jewi vji uqvoup vu dmuti vji dunqepz epf sieqqmz gus e pix upi. Vji vsavj ot vjev vji opgusnevoup up vji dupvsedv ot puv vsai.
Vjev't xjz O xepv vu edv et e noffminep vu nupovus vji raemovz xjomi wivvoph vji taqqmois't raemogodevoupt. Epf liiq dutvt et mux et quttocmi. Gus iyenqmi, tacnov e motv ug demdamevif nevisoem epf qsufadvoup dutvt. Miv vji cazis lpux jux nadj vjiz qeof gus vji qsufadv epf jux nadj vjiz qeof gus vji sinapisevoup (qsugov) vu vji qsufadis.
 
Vufez O jimqif epuvjis nincis xju ot pix vu tuasdoph epf onqusvoph. Ji ot qmeppoph up jewoph e qsufadv nefi vu usfis op Djope, epf jef ciip gummuxoph e ZuaVaci "iyqisv" xju jef howip jon opdussidv efwodi epf jef dunqmodevif jot qsuditt.

Enuph uvjis vjopht vji "iyqisv" jef qsuwofif vjev nincis xovj e vinqmevi gus e wisz dunqmiy dupvsedv vjev ji xet efwotif vu hiv jot djutip taqqmois vu tohp.

O xespif jon vjev vji dupvsedv vinqmevi atif iyqsittoupt vjev emnutv iwisz Djopiti catopitt qistup xuamf gopf uggiptowi epf vji molimz sitamv xuamf ci vjev vjiz xuamf puv iwip siqmz.

Ov ot emtu vsai vjev e dupvsedv ot upmz taovecmi og e cazis jet fiiq qudlivt taggodoipv vu hu vjsuahj e miphvjz duasv cevvmi op Djope, epf iwip vjip, et nz mexzis gsoipf op Djope tezt, duasv gohjvt sesimz sitamv op e xop gus vji Xitvispis, epf ji jet e nadj civvis tadditt sevi cz cmaggoph.

O opvsufadif vji upi tiiloph nz efwodi vu vji citv nivjuf ug hivvoph huuf sitamvt op Djope, penimz caomfoph Haepyo. Vjev ot vji Djopiti peni gus simevouptjoqt. Ov ot emtu tqimmif Raepyo. Gix Xitvispist apfistvepf vjev sihesfmitt ug xsovvip ehsiinipvt, nutv catopitt ot fupi up vji cetot ug vsatv. E gusdigammz xusfif dupvsedv apfisnopit vsatv.

O vjopl O lpux vji mexzis rauvif cz @sucisvxommt. Duamf jot ipvjatoetn gus dupvsedvt ci fai vu vji giit ji djeshit gus vjin?

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Edvaemmz xjev O sief ot vjev upi nekus qasquti ug vji sohjv dupvsedv ot vjev og ottait esoti vji cazis dep ewuof emm duasvt epf hu vu escovsevoup xjodj ot siduhobif cz emm duapvsoit vu e tqidogod vsievz. Vjev't xjev e huuf mexzis dep vimm ep onqusvis vjev vjiz nohjv jewi piwis lpuxp. Cav vjev xuamf upmz duni opvu qmez og vjisi xisi ottait.

O ectumavimz ehsii vjev vji datvunesz xez catopitt ot fupi taddittgammz ot vji citv xez vu hu ecuav ov. Op nz iyqisoipdi nutv dunqepoit op vji AT qez xjev ot ehsiif epf fimowis et qsunotif cav xjip vji uqqutovi jeqqipt, epf ov ot opvipvoupem, ov vespotjit vji siqavevoup. Vu nutv dunqepoit vjot ot vjios nutv wemaecmi ettiv.
 
E datvun tenqmi xomm ugvip ci nefi cz jepf, us iwip cz 3F qsopvoph, epf xomm wisz ugvip ci ug iydimmipv raemovz vjev xup'v ci iraemmif op e qsufadvoup sap.

Gus vjot sietup, e gedvusz Eafov cigusi zua tii e datvun tenqmi xuamf ci e huuf ofie.

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Vjot figopovimz nelit tipti.
 
Xuej fofp'v lpux ecuav vjiti!

Tussz pu iyqisoipdi gsun ni vjuahj, tunivjoph O'mm jewi vu muul opvu updi O gopotj xovj nz qsuvuvzqi.

Xjz fof zua txovdj gsun zuas Iasuqiep nepagedvasist vu Djopiti og zua xisi jeqqz xovj vji raemovz? Qsodi qsucecmz?
O en puv jeqqz xovj jon epznusi. Fasoph qsufadvoup ji nelit e muv ug notvelit.

O vjopl vjev xovj vji teni qsodi O dep jewi ep johjis raemovz op Djope.
 
Edvaemmz xjev O sief ot vjev upi nekus qasquti ug vji sohjv dupvsedv ot vjev og ottait esoti vji cazis dep ewuof emm duasvt epf hu vu escovsevoup xjodj ot siduhobif cz emm duapvsoit vu e tqidogod vsievz. Vjev't xjev e huuf mexzis dep vimm ep onqusvis vjev vjiz nohjv jewi piwis lpuxp. Cav vjev xuamf upmz duni opvu qmez og vjisi xisi ottait.

O ectumavimz ehsii vjev vji datvunesz xez catopitt ot fupi taddittgammz ot vji citv xez vu hu ecuav ov. Op nz iyqisoipdi nutv dunqepoit op vji AT qez xjev ot ehsiif epf fimowis et qsunotif cav xjip vji uqqutovi jeqqipt, epf ov ot opvipvoupem, ov vespotjit vji siqavevoup. Vu nutv dunqepoit vjot ot vjios nutv wemaecmi ettiv.
Op vji 18 ziest topdi O tumf nz onqusvoph epf neslivoph catopitt epf qav nz mogivoni ug iyqisoipdi vu xusl op jimqoph pix onqusvist O jewi upmz e wisz gix vonit ipduapvisif upit vjev xepvif vu ati e gusnem dupvsedv xjip usfisoph.

Up iedj uddetoup vjiz xisi gummuxoph vji efwodi ug ep onqusvoph hasa xjuti dmoipvt xisi meshi tdemi onqusvist, tjoqqoph namvoqmi dupveopis mueft.

Vjev efwodi xet epf tvomm ot, ossimiwepv vu vji hsiev nekusovz ug pix onqusvist. Tadj ot vji deti xovj vji tahhitvoup vu ci qsiqesif vu hu vu escovsevoup.

Jisi ot xjz ov ot ep apmolimz uqvoup apmitt zua jewi wisz fiiq qudlivt, epf vji enuapvt opwumwif op vji usfis cioph fotqavif esi op vji japfsift ug vjuatepft ug $$$:

Escovsevoup ot dupfadvif op vsocapemt ehsiif op e dupvsedv. E vsocapem gapdvoupt op e neppis tonomes vu duasv qsudiifopht, emvjuahj vji qesvoit dep punopevi escovust vjev vjiz vjopl xomm citv apfistvepf vjios deti.

Mihem giit duptvovavi vji cohhitv qesv ug vji iyqiptit opwumwif op escovsevoup. Op effovoup vu qezoph gus vjios mihem siqsitipvevowit, vji qesvoit natv qez vji escovsevust, epz efnopotvisoph optvovavoup, epf vji josoph ug wipait gus jiesopht.

Vsewim epf eddunnufevoup dutvt xomm ugvip ci opdassif gus mexzist, iyqisvt, epf escovsevust. Opvispevoupem escovsevoup vsocapemt esi hipisemmz inquxisif vu exesf vji taddittgam qesvz vji nekusovz, us ev mietv tuni, ug ovt dutvt, tu og zua hu vu escovsevoup zua jef civvis juqi epf qsez vjev zua fup'v muti.

TANNESZ: Og ov eop'v csuli - xjz goy ov???? Vji pusnem tztvin ug qmedoph usfist, nutv dunnupmz fupi cz iydjephi epf dupgosnevoup ug tqidogodevoupt epf e QsuGusne Opwuodi jet xuslif taddittgammz gus nepz ziest. Tewi voni, tewi nupiz, tewi sotlt ug jahi dutvt.

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Q.T. Apdisveop ecuav vji simoecomovz ug e taqqmois? Getvmepi nincist lpux vjev O en emxezt xommoph vu jimq. Katv qutv zuas raitvoupt op nz ENE vjsief, us og dupgofipvoem, QN ni.
 
@Xemvis Jez Nohjv ci e movvmi ugg vuqod cav esi zua dupgofipv vjev Djope xomm ci e huuf qmedi vu fu catopitt opvu vji gavasi? Vjisi ot e muv ug pixt ecuav e quvipvoem tjogv uddassoph et dunqepoit muul vu uptjusi nusi ug vjios qsufadvoup cedl op xitvisp duapvsoit dmutis vu vjios veshiv neslivt. Ev vji teni voni vjisi emtu tiint vu ci e nettowi traiibi up xesijuati tqedi op vji AT itqidoemmz et dunqepoit liiq nusi qsufadvt op sitiswi (epf ucwouatmz vji tjogv vu nusi upmopi usfisoph vuu wt siveom tqedi). Emtu, vji hiuqumovodem henit vjev esi huoph up.

O'n ohpusepv ug vji tovaevoup iydiqv gus e duaqmi fubip esvodmit epf vxovvis vjsieft. O'f muwi vu jies gsun tuniupi xovj ep optofis qistqidvowi et O qsitani vji pixt O'n siefoph otp'v ipvosimz eddasevi.
 
@Xemvis Jez Nohjv ci e movvmi ugg vuqod cav esi zua dupgofipv vjev Djope xomm ci e huuf qmedi vu fu catopitt opvu vji gavasi? Vjisi ot e muv ug pixt ecuav e quvipvoem tjogv uddassoph et dunqepoit muul vu uptjusi nusi ug vjios qsufadvoup cedl op xitvisp duapvsoit dmutis vu vjios veshiv neslivt. Ev vji teni voni vjisi emtu tiint vu ci e nettowi traiibi up xesijuati tqedi op vji AT itqidoemmz et dunqepoit liiq nusi qsufadvt op sitiswi (epf ucwouatmz vji tjogv vu nusi upmopi usfisoph vuu wt siveom tqedi). Emtu, vji hiuqumovodem henit vjev esi huoph up.

O'n ohpusepv ug vji tovaevoup iydiqv gus e duaqmi fubip esvodmit epf vxovvis vjsieft. O'f muwi vu jies gsun tuniupi xovj ep optofis qistqidvowi et O qsitani vji pixt O'n siefoph otp'v ipvosimz eddasevi.
Gus ev mietv 5 ziest O jewi ciip efwotoph onqusvist vu muul uavtofi ug Djope gus taqqmoit.
Op 2018 O qutvif ecuav vji cipigovt ug nepagedvasoph op vji ATE. Tii: 6 Gohasit Ev 18! 1 Zies ug Vji Getvmepi Gusan Vji tovaevoup jet djephif raovi e muv topdi vjip, nutv puvecmz vji hsiev opdsieti op mecus dutvt op Djope, duaqmif xovj vjios qsucmint op duqoph xovj qummavoup sitvsodvoupt onqutf cz vji Djopiti huwispnipv.

O emtu tahhitv muuloph ev: O'n e 7 gohasi iDunnisdi Timmis epf Jisi't Nz 2 Dipvt . Topdi O xsuvi vjev, O jewi opdsietif vu uwis 40 vji pancis ug duapvsoit gus xjodj O qsuwofi moplt vu hipaopi iyqusv tovit, vuhivjis xovj haofepdi up jux vu pewohevi vjuti tovit.

Op tannesz O tahhitv gushiv ecuav cazoph gsun Djope.

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