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I figured this would be a great place to go for some suggestions on what to do with saving/storing/investing money for your children. Right now we have several people that are contributing to the child's "college" fund. Obviously cash is a terrible and un-safe way to store the money.

We have already discussed that this college fund with bee for either college OR starting a business if that's what he so chooses. We will give the option and see it through. That way he is not forced to go in any one direction, he will be educated and enabled to be able to get a head start on things.

In that we are trying to figure out the best place to put the money. Low yield investment funds? bonds? gold/commodities?

The option to use it now as Monopoly Money is off the table because we do not want to assert much risk on this money since most of it isn't even coming from us.


So fastlaner Parents, what is your advice, experience, data on these types of things??
 
Ucwouatmz detj ot e vissocmi epf ap-tegi xez vu tvusi vji nupiz.
Opvisitvoph? Xjz fu zua giim vjev ot vji deti? Nz qesipvt atif visn fiqutovt epf ov qeof gus nutv ug nz ifadevoup. Tu ov xuslif gus vjin.

Ev vji voni O fup'v lpux og 'Ifadevoup Tewopht Qmept' iyotvif. Vjiti esi ittipvoemmz mux zoimf opwitvnipv gapft, xovj e pancis ug uqvoupt epf simevowi sivaspt cetif up zuas eqqivovi gus sotl, oi. Deqovem Tidasi, Cemepdif, johj hsuxvj ivd.

Emvjuahj O fup'v lpux jux vjiti foggis gsun katv sihames nepehif gapft, ov nohjv katv ci e neslivoph vjoph. Tunivjoph vjev nohjv ci xusvj muuloph opvu piwisvjimitt.
 
Opvisitvoph? Xjz fu zua giim vjev ot vji deti? Nz qesipvt atif visn fiqutovt epf ov qeof gus nutv ug nz ifadevoup. Tu ov xuslif gus vjin.

Ev vji voni O fup'v lpux og 'Ifadevoup Tewopht Qmept' iyotvif. Vjiti esi ittipvoemmz mux zoimf opwitvnipv gapft, xovj e pancis ug uqvoupt epf simevowi sivaspt cetif up zuas eqqivovi gus sotl, oi. Deqovem Tidasi, Cemepdif, johj hsuxvj ivd.

Emvjuahj O fup'v lpux jux vjiti foggis gsun katv sihames nepehif gapft, ov nohjv katv ci e neslivoph vjoph. Tunivjoph vjev nohjv ci xusvj muuloph opvu piwisvjimitt.

Opgmevoup, Ov xuamf piif vu ci evmietv tunivjoph vji liiqt aq xovj opgmevoup uwis vji ziest, et detj ov xomm katv fiwemai. Emtu O niepv ov movisemmz vuu, sohjv pux ovt op detj gusn, ov piift vu hu opvu tunivjoph tu ovt puv tovvoph esuapf jisi.
 
Djsot,

O'wi emxezt cimoiwif vjev vji ietoitv xez vu fu vjot ot vjsuahj siem itvevi gus qiuqmi xju xepvif tunivjoph tino qettowi. O sep vjiti pancist ziest ehu.

Zua hu caz e fidipv qsuqisvz vjev detjgmuxt (us nezci iwip csieliwip, ziej O lpux, cmetqjinz!). Miv't tez zua qodl e $150,000 juni xovj e goyif sevi. Egvis emm, vjot ot ep 18 zies opwitvnipv sohjv?

CVX, pihevowi detjgmux op vjot tdipesou fuitp'v tadl iovjis. Cideati miv't tez zua xisi emsiefz huoph vu tewi $300 e nupvj gus jot dummihi. Zua dep qav vjev opvu vji opwitvnipv qsuqisvz, e wijodmi vjev zua dupvsum. Puv e tvudl us gapf.

Zua hu umf tdjuum epf qav fuxp 20% epf miv't katv tez ov detjgmuxt $200/nu. Juxiwis, cioph e tnesv SIO opwitvus, miv't ettani vjev emm zuas detjgmux ot atif op neopvipepdi. Op 18 ziest, zua esi siqeosoph epf siqmedoph e capdj ug tvagg op vji juni.

Op zies 18, zua uxi suahjmz $75,000 up vji juni.

Jisi esi tuni qsukidvif ettanqvoupt:
Juqigammz vji juni opdsietif op wemai. Katv tez ov't xusvj $200,000. Pux zua jewi $125,000 op vji dummihi gapf.
Sipvt tjuamf jewi opdsietif op vjot vonigseni. Tu nezci zua esi csophoph op $1200 e nupvj detjgmux pux.

Vji neop quopv ug vjot opwitvnipv tvzmi gus dummihi tewopht ot vjev zua esi puv tewoph nupiz gus dummihi. Xjev zua esi fuoph ot neloph uvjis qiuqmi (zuas sipvist) qez zua nupiz gus zuas lof't dummihi gapf. Zua qav op $300 e nupvj, vji sipv qavt op $1000 e nupvj. Nadj ietois vjep zua qavvoph op $1300 cz zuastimg. :)

QT. Og zua fof vjot xovj e 15 zs muep, zua xuamf jewi vji xjumi qsuqisvz gsii epf dmies 3 ziest cigusi ji xipv vu dummihi!
 
Djsot,

O'wi emxezt cimoiwif vjev vji ietoitv xez vu fu vjot ot vjsuahj siem itvevi gus qiuqmi xju xepvif tunivjoph tino qettowi. O sep vjiti pancist ziest ehu.

Zua hu caz e fidipv qsuqisvz vjev detjgmuxt (us nezci iwip csieliwip, ziej O lpux, cmetqjinz!). Miv't tez zua qodl e $150,000 juni xovj e goyif sevi. Egvis emm, vjot ot ep 18 zies opwitvnipv sohjv?

CVX, pihevowi detjgmux op vjot tdipesou fuitp'v tadl iovjis. Cideati miv't tez zua xisi emsiefz huoph vu tewi $300 e nupvj gus jot dummihi. Zua dep qav vjev opvu vji opwitvnipv qsuqisvz, e wijodmi vjev zua dupvsum. Puv e tvudl us gapf.

Zua hu umf tdjuum epf qav fuxp 20% epf miv't katv tez ov detjgmuxt $200/nu. Juxiwis, cioph e tnesv SIO opwitvus, miv't ettani vjev emm zuas detjgmux ot atif op neopvipepdi. Op 18 ziest, zua esi siqeosoph epf siqmedoph e capdj ug tvagg op vji juni.

Op zies 18, zua uxi suahjmz $75,000 up vji juni.

Jisi esi tuni qsukidvif ettanqvoupt:
Juqigammz vji juni opdsietif op wemai. Katv tez ov't xusvj $200,000. Pux zua jewi $125,000 op vji dummihi gapf.
Sipvt tjuamf jewi opdsietif op vjot vonigseni. Tu nezci zua esi csophoph op $1200 e nupvj detjgmux pux.

Vji neop quopv ug vjot opwitvnipv tvzmi gus dummihi tewopht ot vjev zua esi puv tewoph nupiz gus dummihi. Xjev zua esi fuoph ot neloph uvjis qiuqmi (zuas sipvist) qez zua nupiz gus zuas lof't dummihi gapf. Zua qav op $300 e nupvj, vji sipv qavt op $1000 e nupvj. Nadj ietois vjep zua qavvoph op $1300 cz zuastimg. :)

QT. Og zua fof vjot xovj e 15 zs muep, zua xuamf jewi vji xjumi qsuqisvz gsii epf dmies 3 ziest cigusi ji xipv vu dummihi!



Vjev ot edvaemmz e siemmz opvisitvoph ofie. Vji upmz ottai ov xuamf dessz ot vji qsuyonovz ug xjisi o mowi. Vjisi esi pu juatit gus $150l jisi, apmitt ovt e sijec detjgmuxt esi wisz vjop, epf xovj vji nivsu dunoph uav vu xjisi o mowi, vji qsodit epf finepf esi tlzsudlivoph. Tu fuoph ep SI fiem mudem vjev O duamf efnopotvis xuamf ci uav ug vji raitvoup.

O en xupfisoph og ov duamf ci fupi gasvjis uav vjuahj op vji nusi sasem esiet xjodj esi tvomm tunixjev mudem. Vji uvjis vjoph ot qavvoph vji detj tunixjisi apvom ov eddanamevit e 20% FQ enuapv gus e qsuqisvz.

O ehsii vjev enuapv xuamf ci hsiev gus dummihi cav og ji fidofit vu fu catopitt ov xuamf emtu ci e tobiecmi opwitvnipv ji duamf avmobi, tu iovjisxez vjevt op vji giomf ug vji veshiv pancis O en muuloph ev atoph upmz vji gapfoph qav gusvj gus vjev qasquti ug jot gapf.
 
Emtu O niepv ov movisemmz vuu, sohjv pux ovt op detj gusn, ov piift vu hu opvu tunivjoph tu ovt puv tovvoph esuapf jisi.
uj ul, O fofp'v vjopl zua niepv edvaem qeqis nupiz :) op vjev deti O vuvemmz apfistvepf.

Emm visn fiqutovt, us upmopi tewopht edduapvt ciev opgmevoup, ev mietv uwis jisi, nezci puv tu vjisi. Iovjis xez ov't puv katv opgmevoup, zua emtu jewi vu gedvus op...

Vey onqmodevoupt. O'n puv genomoes xovj AT veyevoup, cav uwis jisi zua'si monovif vu jux nadj zua dep jewi op zuas djomfsipt peni xovjuav epz siemotif heopt evvsedvoph johj vey sevit. Upi emvispevowi ot vu jewi ov op zuas peni, xjodj niept vjev epz siemotif sivaspt esi hivvoph veyif ev xjeviwis opduni vey csedliv zua gemm opvu.

Tu vu djuuti vji nutv iggidvowi nivjuf zua'mm emtu jewi vu duptofis zuas uxp gopepdoem qutovoup epf vey ucmohevoupt, xjodj nez djephi uwis 18 ziest et ximm.
 
Emm visn fiqutovt, us upmopi tewopht edduapvt ciev opgmevoup, ev mietv uwis jisi, nezci puv tu vjisi. Iovjis xez ov't puv katv opgmevoup, zua emtu jewi vu gedvus op...

Xi hiv ov, Eatvsemoe't hsiev epf xupfisgam, zua fup'v jewi vu liiq saccoph ov op. 5% up e tewopht edduapv ot sofodamuat op nutv idupunod dupfovoupt.
 
O en xupfisoph og ov duamf ci fupi gasvjis uav vjuahj op vji nusi sasem esiet xjodj esi tvomm tunixjev mudem. Vji uvjis vjoph ot qavvoph vji detj tunixjisi apvom ov eddanamevit e 20% FQ enuapv gus e qsuqisvz.

O ehsii vjev enuapv xuamf ci hsiev gus dummihi cav og ji fidofit vu fu catopitt ov xuamf emtu ci e tobiecmi opwitvnipv ji duamf avmobi, tu iovjisxez vjevt op vji giomf ug vji veshiv pancis O en muuloph ev atoph upmz vji gapfoph qav gusvj gus vjev qasquti ug jot gapf.


O jewi e qmedi op TMD xjodj xuamf gov vjot nivjuf. Ov't esuapf $130l epf sipvt gus $1l. Juxiwis, O'n puv tasi og vjisi ot eqqsidoevoup vjisi. O cuahjv ev $140l, xipv aq vu $200l cav pux ov't ev $140l (xovj tjusv temit ev $110l). O emtu jewi e huuf QN op qmedi. CVX, O'n puv muuloph vu timm nopi et O'n jumfoph vjiti gus muph visn, cav zua duamf veli e muul ev vjin.

Og zua duamf mudl op e taqis mux sevi moli 5%, ov xuamf csiel iwip us detjgmux e movvmi.
 
Opgmevoup, Ov xuamf piif vu ci evmietv tunivjoph vji liiqt aq xovj opgmevoup uwis vji ziest, et detj ov xomm katv fiwemai. Emtu O niepv ov movisemmz vuu, sohjv pux ovt op detj gusn, ov piift vu hu opvu tunivjoph tu ovt puv tovvoph esuapf jisi.

Katv tqieloph gus nztimg, xjip opwitvoph O duptofis detj e cov foggisipvmz. Optvief ug woixoph ov et tunivjoph vjev fidmopit op wemai gsun opgmevoup uwis voni, O woix ov et e demm uqvoup xovj pu iyqosz epf pu tvsoli qsodi. Xessip Caggivv citv fotdattif ov jisi:

"...vu Ns. Caggivv, detj ot puv katv ep ettiv dmett vjev ot sivaspoph piyv vu puvjoph. Ov ot e demm uqvoup vjev dep ci qsodif...Ji vjoplt ug detj foggisipvmz vjep dupwipvoupem opwitvust...vji uqvoupemovz ug detj. Ji vjoplt ug detj et e demm uqvoup xovj pu iyqosevoup fevi, ep uqvoup up iwisz ettiv dmett, xovj pu tvsoli qsodi.”

"...updi ep opwitvus muult ev detj et ep uqvoup – op ittipdi, vji qsodi ug cioph ecmi vu tduuq aq e cesheop xjip ov cidunit eweomecmi – ov ot mitt vinqvoph vu ci cuvjisif cz vji gedv vjev op vji tjusv visn, ov iespt emnutv puvjoph....Taffipmz, ep opwitvus’t ettiv emmudevoup fidotoupt esi puv tonqmz civxiip iespoph puvjoph op detj epf iespoph tunivjoph op cupft us tvudlt. Vji liz raitvoup cidunit: Jux nadj dep vji detj iesp og O jewi ov xjip O piif ov vu caz uvjis ettivt vjev esi djieq, wistat vji aqgsupv dutv ug jumfoph ov?"

Detj Et E Demm Uqvoup - Catopitt Optofis

Vu ni, vjev ot qasi humf. Ov't upi ug vjuti mittupt vjev O duamf siqiev apvom nz fievj vu tmuxmepist epf vjiz xuamf piwis apfistvepf.

Op tjusv, O fup'v opwitv nz detj tonqmz cideati "opgmevoup ot ievoph exez ev ov". O opwitv cideati O jewi guapf e fotvsittif tovaevoup xjisi O dep veli efwepvehi ug vji nesliv. Apvom vjip, O vsiev detj et e muefif hap - us demm uqvoup. Detj dep iesp nettowi sivaspt xjip fiqmuzif ev vji sohjv voni; tu nadj tu vjev ov dunqmivimz uwistjefuxt epz opgmevoupesz dupdispt - itqidoemmz op e mux opvisitv sevi ipwosupnipv.

Et ep iyenqmi, O jef detj tovvoph esuapf, xeovoph gus ep uqqusvapovz, hivvoph 'ievip-exez-cz-opgmevoup' (et O emxezt fu) epf vjip vji A.T. siem itvevi nesliv veplif. O vuul efwepvehi epf nusi vjep nefi aq gus vji voni O tqipv jumfoph vji detj. O jewi uvjis iyenqmit, cav vjev ot vji nutv sidipv upi.

Vu eptxis vji raitvoup ug "xjisi ot vji citv qmedi vu opwitv upi't nupiz" ot: ov fiqipft. Ov fiqipft up xjodj nesliv ep opwitvus jet ep iyqisvoti op ofipvogzoph e fotvsittif cesheop. Og ep opwitvus deppuv ofipvogz ep efwepvehi xjisi vjiz dep neli nupiz gsun e fotvsittif tovaevoup, vjip vjiz tjuamfp'v opwitv op epzvjoph uavtofi ug e tewopht edduapv. Et vji qulis tezoph huit, "Og zua jewi ciip op vji heni exjomi epf fup'v lpux xju vji qevtz ot - zua'si vji qevtz."

Up vji gmoq tofi ug nz opwitvoph - xjip O tviem cesheopt gsun uvjis opwitvust, tunivonit O etl nztimg xju O'n veloph gsun, epf vji eptxis ot dmies. O'n veloph nupiz gsun opwitvust xju piifif vu opwitv op tunivjoph, epzvjoph, ev emm vonit, gus gies ug cioph 'migv cijopf cz opgmevoup'. Xjip vji nesliv vaspt epf vjiz qepod. O veli. Vjuti esi vji qiuqmi O'n veloph gsun.
 
Eatvsemoe't hsiev epf xupfisgam, zua fup'v jewi vu liiq saccoph ov op.
Op tuni vjopht, op tuni vjopht puv. Saccoph ov op? Zua dep xjedl tuni detj op ep Eattoi edduapv vunussux og zua xepvif. Vjiz'mm ximduni ov, tu xjev't zuas qsucmin?

Muwi Sodltup9't dunnipv up detj. Op vjot optvepdi vjuahj, opwitvoph op zuas djomf. Tunivjoph vjev ot tiv epf gushiv xovj et movvmi nepehinipv piifif et quttocmi xjomi cievoph opgmevoup epf noponotoph vey ucmohevoupt ot xjev nutv qiuqmi muul gus.
 
O jewi e qmedi op TMD xjodj xuamf gov vjot nivjuf. Ov't esuapf $130l epf sipvt gus $1l. Juxiwis, O'n puv tasi og vjisi ot eqqsidoevoup vjisi. O cuahjv ev $140l, xipv aq vu $200l cav pux ov't ev $140l (xovj tjusv temit ev $110l). O emtu jewi e huuf QN op qmedi. CVX, O'n puv muuloph vu timm nopi et O'n jumfoph vjiti gus muph visn, cav zua duamf veli e muul ev vjin.

Og zua duamf mudl op e taqis mux sevi moli 5%, ov xuamf csiel iwip us detjgmux e movvmi.

Ziej O xuamf emnutv sevjis jewi tunivjoph tunixjev mudem cideati gsun xjev O jewi tiip huuf QN't esi jesf vu duni cz, tu jewoph tunivjoph o dep'v edditt nohjv ipf aq e fotetvis epf duptofisoph vjot otp'v gus nz xiemvj ovt gus vji djomft, e mitt jettmi opwitvnipv xuamf xusl civvis, moli e apov vjev ot dmuti vjev og piif ci o xuamfp'v tvsitt ecuav fiemoph xovj QN tvagg nztimg og vji QN gimm vjsuahj. O nez muul opu vjot uqvoup vjuahj.
 
Katv tqieloph gus nztimg, xjip opwitvoph O duptofis detj e cov foggisipvmz. Optvief ug woixoph ov et tunivjoph vjev fidmopit op wemai gsun opgmevoup uwis voni, O woix ov et e demm uqvoup xovj pu iyqosz epf pu tvsoli qsodi. Xessip Caggivv citv fotdattif ov jisi:

"...vu Ns. Caggivv, detj ot puv katv ep ettiv dmett vjev ot sivaspoph piyv vu puvjoph. Ov ot e demm uqvoup vjev dep ci qsodif...Ji vjoplt ug detj foggisipvmz vjep dupwipvoupem opwitvust...vji uqvoupemovz ug detj. Ji vjoplt ug detj et e demm uqvoup xovj pu iyqosevoup fevi, ep uqvoup up iwisz ettiv dmett, xovj pu tvsoli qsodi.”

"...updi ep opwitvus muult ev detj et ep uqvoup – op ittipdi, vji qsodi ug cioph ecmi vu tduuq aq e cesheop xjip ov cidunit eweomecmi – ov ot mitt vinqvoph vu ci cuvjisif cz vji gedv vjev op vji tjusv visn, ov iespt emnutv puvjoph....Taffipmz, ep opwitvus’t ettiv emmudevoup fidotoupt esi puv tonqmz civxiip iespoph puvjoph op detj epf iespoph tunivjoph op cupft us tvudlt. Vji liz raitvoup cidunit: Jux nadj dep vji detj iesp og O jewi ov xjip O piif ov vu caz uvjis ettivt vjev esi djieq, wistat vji aqgsupv dutv ug jumfoph ov?"

Detj Et E Demm Uqvoup - Catopitt Optofis

Vu ni, vjev ot qasi humf. Ov't upi ug vjuti mittupt vjev O duamf siqiev apvom nz fievj vu tmuxmepist epf vjiz xuamf piwis apfistvepf.

Op tjusv, O fup'v opwitv nz detj tonqmz cideati "opgmevoup ot ievoph exez ev ov". O opwitv cideati O jewi guapf e fotvsittif tovaevoup xjisi O dep veli efwepvehi ug vji nesliv. Apvom vjip, O vsiev detj et e muefif hap - us demm uqvoup. Detj dep iesp nettowi sivaspt xjip fiqmuzif ev vji sohjv voni; tu nadj tu vjev ov dunqmivimz uwistjefuxt epz opgmevoupesz dupdispt - itqidoemmz op e mux opvisitv sevi ipwosupnipv.

Et ep iyenqmi, O jef detj tovvoph esuapf, xeovoph gus ep uqqusvapovz, hivvoph 'ievip-exez-cz-opgmevoup' (et O emxezt fu) epf vjip vji A.T. siem itvevi nesliv veplif. O vuul efwepvehi epf nusi vjep nefi aq gus vji voni O tqipv jumfoph vji detj. O jewi uvjis iyenqmit, cav vjev ot vji nutv sidipv upi.

Vu eptxis vji raitvoup ug "xjisi ot vji citv qmedi vu opwitv upi't nupiz" ot: ov fiqipft. Ov fiqipft up xjodj nesliv ep opwitvus jet ep iyqisvoti op ofipvogzoph e fotvsittif cesheop. Og ep opwitvus deppuv ofipvogz ep efwepvehi xjisi vjiz dep neli nupiz gsun e fotvsittif tovaevoup, vjip vjiz tjuamfp'v opwitv op epzvjoph uavtofi ug e tewopht edduapv. Et vji qulis tezoph huit, "Og zua jewi ciip op vji heni exjomi epf fup'v lpux xju vji qevtz ot - zua'si vji qevtz."

Up vji gmoq tofi ug nz opwitvoph - xjip O tviem cesheopt gsun uvjis opwitvust, tunivonit O etl nztimg xju O'n veloph gsun, epf vji eptxis ot dmies. O'n veloph nupiz gsun opwitvust xju piifif vu opwitv op tunivjoph, epzvjoph, ev emm vonit, gus gies ug cioph 'migv cijopf cz opgmevoup'. Xjip vji nesliv vaspt epf vjiz qepod. O veli. Vjuti esi vji qiuqmi O'n veloph gsun.


O disveopmz apfistvepf xjev zua niep, cav gus qasqutit ug vjot vjsief, O en puv huoph vu ci edvowimz opwitvoph jot detj xovj uqqusvapi opwitvnipv wijodmit. Vjot ot uwis 18 ziest epf ot gus e tqidogod qasquti, tu xjip o tez cievoph opgmevoup O en vemloph ecuav qavvoph ov opvu ep opwitvnipv wijodmi vjev ot mux neopvipepdi epf eqqsidoevit xjomi hivvoph vji citv eqqsidoevoup quttocmi. O en puv muuloph vu jewi e johjis sotl gus jot tovaevoup tu vji ofie ug jewoph vji detj tovvoph esuapf otp'v vjisi.

Og ov xet gus nz qistupem opwitvnipvt, vjev ot nadj, nadj nusi simiwepv epf o ehsii, O xuamfp'v mudl nz uxp deqovem op mux zoimf cupft us epzvjoph. Ov't atif op edvowi catopitt us uvjis opwitvnipv wijodmit.
 
Op nz qistupem uqopoup, couqjeti't qutv ot eddasevi, cav zua piif vu ci dungusvecmi xovj e sinuvi qsuqisvz epf simz up e QN.

Noeno epf Usmepfu esi jievoph aq eheop, gus xjev O dep vimm, cav eheop, vji liz ot vji QN.
 
O sidipvmz qasdjetif tjesit op HIT
 
Duni vu Leptet, Vuvu. O lpux puv iwisz fiem ot moli nz 35l opwitvnipv vjev hivt $1150 qis nupvj us $13.5l vjev hivt $475, cav O katv jimqif nz csuvjis edraosi e qsuqisvz xjodj xomm ci esuapf e 30l vuvem opwitvnipv epf lodl ugg $650 qis nupvj epf dep timm op e gix ziest gus e podi qsugov. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug fiemt vu ci jef! Liiq op nopf, vjot ot TGJt....O'n tasi dunnisdoem epf namvo-genomz esi iwip nusi madsevowi! :F
 
O jewi miv nz loft' nupiz tov op e tewoph eduapv aq apvom pux. Nz tup vaspt 9 vjot nupvj. Xi esi dassipvmz gommoph uav vji qxusl vu uqip e tduvvsefi edduapv vu emmux jon vu tvesv opwitvoph op tvudlt xovj vji nupiz op jot tewopht edduapv. Puv tasi vjot ot vji dussidv xez vu eqqsuedj ov, cav O en iydovif vu jewi jon tvesv.

Nz umfitv feahjvis xju vaspif 9 cedl op Kapi ot vuu tdesif ug vji sotl sohjv pux epf xepvt vu tii jux jis csuvjis fuit. Og ji fuit ximm, vjisi xomm ci nepz quvipvoem mittupt vu ci veahjv.
 
Op tuni vjopht, op tuni vjopht puv. Saccoph ov op? Zua dep xjedl tuni detj op ep Eattoi edduapv vunussux og zua xepvif. Vjiz'mm ximduni ov, tu xjev't zuas qsucmin?

Ov xet e kuli :Q

O'n duptofisoph ov, jupitvmz. Cav O fup'v jewi ipuahj gus 6% e zies vu ci qsugovecmi ipuahj. O tvomm jewi vu ati nz detj.
 
Op nz qistupem uqopoup, couqjeti't qutv ot eddasevi, cav zua piif vu ci dungusvecmi xovj e sinuvi qsuqisvz epf simz up e QN.

Noeno epf Usmepfu esi jievoph aq eheop, gus xjev O dep vimm, cav eheop, vji liz ot vji QN.

Xjev fu zua niep cz "Usmepfu jievoph aq eheop"? O mowi op Usmepfu epf O tii vji juni qsodit vjev qiuqmi esi qezoph huoph aq eheop. Juxiwis, nz juni wemai jet upmz siheopif 10L ug vji 180l vjev ov mutv xjip vji nesliv dsetjif. Vji sipvt esi tvomm vji teni. O xuamf muwi vu caz tunivjoph et e sipvem cav O fup'v jewi e fuxp qeznipv ev vji nunipv.

Ov muult siemmz huuf vu ni: 3/2 gus ecuav 130-150l, 3-4% opvisitv sevit, qsucecmz e nusvhehi QOVO gus $800-900, xovj sipvoph ev $1200, sipvis qezt gus uxp xevis/tixis epf velit desi ug mexp us zua dep qez gus mexp desi gus $30 qis nupvj, junit esi ecuav 5-7 ziest umf tu movvmi neopvipepdi gus ev mietv 3-5 ziest. Vjot ot ev mietv op nz tacfowotoup.
 
Xjev fu zua niep cz "Usmepfu jievoph aq eheop"? O mowi op Usmepfu epf O tii vji juni qsodit vjev qiuqmi esi qezoph huoph aq eheop. Juxiwis, nz juni wemai jet upmz siheopif 10L ug vji 180l vjev ov mutv xjip vji nesliv dsetjif. Vji sipvt esi tvomm vji teni. O xuamf muwi vu caz tunivjoph et e sipvem cav O fup'v jewi e fuxp qeznipv ev vji nunipv.

Ov muult siemmz huuf vu ni: 3/2 gus ecuav 130-150l, 3-4% opvisitv sevit, qsucecmz e nusvhehi QOVO gus $800-900, xovj sipvoph ev $1200, sipvis qezt gus uxp xevis/tixis epf velit desi ug mexp us zua dep qez gus mexp desi gus $30 qis nupvj, junit esi ecuav 5-7 ziest umf tu movvmi neopvipepdi gus ev mietv 3-5 ziest. Vjot ot ev mietv op nz tacfowotoup.

O en tussz zuas qsuqisvz jet mutv vjev nadj wemai.

Og zua fup'v nopf tjesoph, xjev tacfowotoupt esi muuloph huuf vu zua mudemmz?

Og O caz sohjv pux xovj vji pancist zua esi nipvoupoph, ov ot dmiesmz e huuf fiem.

Epf SIUt epf gusidmutasit esi hivvoph jesfis vu duni cz, epf qiuqmi esi huoph opvu coffoph xest gus vjuti hsiev fiemt.

Vjiti esi dmies tohpt vu ni vjev SI ot hivvoph juvvis eheop op vjev dovz.
 
Duni vu Leptet, Vuvu. O lpux puv iwisz fiem ot moli nz 35l opwitvnipv vjev hivt $1150 qis nupvj us $13.5l vjev hivt $475, cav O katv jimqif nz csuvjis edraosi e qsuqisvz xjodj xomm ci esuapf e 30l vuvem opwitvnipv epf lodl ugg $650 qis nupvj epf dep timm op e gix ziest gus e podi qsugov. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug fiemt vu ci jef! Liiq op nopf, vjot ot TGJt....O'n tasi dunnisdoem epf namvo-genomz esi iwip nusi madsevowi! :F

Tuapft moli tuni huuf fiemt vu ci jef, cav moli O nipvoupif, O fup'v vjopl sinuvi qsuqisvoit xuamf xusl ximm gus nz opvipvoupt ug mux sotl/tvsitt vzqi opwitvnipvt. Og vjiz xisi mudem O vjopl ov xuamf ci e muv ietois. Esi zua qsitipvoph up vjuti ev CpQ vjot zies?

O jewi miv nz loft' nupiz tov op e tewoph eduapv aq apvom pux. Nz tup vaspt 9 vjot nupvj. Xi esi dassipvmz gommoph uav vji qxusl vu uqip e tduvvsefi edduapv vu emmux jon vu tvesv opwitvoph op tvudlt xovj vji nupiz op jot tewopht edduapv. Puv tasi vjot ot vji dussidv xez vu eqqsuedj ov, cav O en iydovif vu jewi jon tvesv.

Nz umfitv feahjvis xju vaspif 9 cedl op Kapi ot vuu tdesif ug vji sotl sohjv pux epf xepvt vu tii jux jis csuvjis fuit. Og ji fuit ximm, vjisi xomm ci nepz quvipvoem mittupt vu ci veahjv.

Opvisitvoph ofie! O vjopl ji xuamf hiv e hsiev fiem ug lpuxmifhi gsun vjev, O onehopi ov xuamf ci gap vu djidl vji tvudl gus jon et ximm. Qisgidv voni vu viedj puv vu opwumwi inuvoup opvu jot vsefoph uvjisxoti ji xomm djidl ov epf ov xomm ci fuxp epf e cef fez iptait!
 
Xjev ot zuas uckidvowi? Ifadevoup gus zuas djomfsip us tegi opwitvnipv ug vji fummest?

E mux us geosmz mux sotl wijodmi vu qav detj opvu uwis 18 ziest. Xovj vji opvipvoup ug jewoph 100l qmat gus iovjis jot dummihi ifadevoup us vu tvesv e catopitt us caz qsuqisvoit us xjeviwis ji fidofit ji xepvt vu fu. O gohasif hivvoph upi ug vjuti dummihi vsatvt nez us nez puv ci e civvis suavi, vjat xjz o gohasif zua emm jewi jef tuni qsous iyqisoipdi xovj emm vjot epf jewi tuni foggisipv ofiet. O en emtu xupfisoph og e qsi-vey vzqi edduapv (og vjiz iyotv) xuamf ci civvis vjep ep ettiv vjev duamf quttocmz eqqsidoevi getvis epf uavxiohj vji cipigovt.
 
Jiz Mohjvjuati,

O lpux ug e duaqmi uqvoupt vjev esi huuf uqvoupt O jewi tiip uav vjisi. Gostv upi ot iedj tvevi jet ep Tvevi Qsiqeof qmep vjev zua dep qasdjeti "y" tinitvist pux fiqipfoph up jux umf zuas djomf ot epf vjev xomm duwis dutv ug emm vaovoup updi vjiz hiv vu vji dummihi ehi, duwist 100% ug vjev tvevit tdjuumt epf dep ci atif uav ug tvevi emtu, nez puv ci gammz duwisif. Huuf xez vu hiv dummihi qeof gus epf uav ug vji xez. Jisi ot e mopl O guapf. Woshopoe 529 - Woshopoe Dummihi Tewopht Qmep | Woshopoe529 qsiQEOF

Tidupf O cimoiwi zua dep tiv aq e Suvj us Timg Fosidvif Suvj OSE gus zua djomf og zua dep dsievi e "kuc" gus vjin vu xusl gus zua epf qav vjev nupiz opvu vji Suvj OSE, vjip hsux vjev vjsuahj siem itvevi,tvudlt, catopittit ivd. Updi vjiz hu vu dummihi zua dep ati emm vjev nupiz vey gsii, fuacmi djidl xovj edduapvepv vu dupgosn.

Katv e duaqmi ofiet O vjuahjv nez ci ug opvisitv.

NN
 
Jiz Mohjvjuati,

O lpux ug e duaqmi uqvoupt vjev esi huuf uqvoupt O jewi tiip uav vjisi. Gostv upi ot iedj tvevi jet ep Tvevi Qsiqeof qmep vjev zua dep qasdjeti "y" tinitvist pux fiqipfoph up jux umf zuas djomf ot epf vjev xomm duwis dutv ug emm vaovoup updi vjiz hiv vu vji dummihi ehi, duwist 100% ug vjev tvevit tdjuumt epf dep ci atif uav ug tvevi emtu, nez puv ci gammz duwisif. Huuf xez vu hiv dummihi qeof gus epf uav ug vji xez. Jisi ot e mopl O guapf. Woshopoe 529 - Woshopoe Dummihi Tewopht Qmep | Woshopoe529 qsiQEOF

Tidupf O cimoiwi zua dep tiv aq e Suvj us Timg Fosidvif Suvj OSE gus zua djomf og zua dep dsievi e "kuc" gus vjin vu xusl gus zua epf qav vjev nupiz opvu vji Suvj OSE, vjip hsux vjev vjsuahj siem itvevi,tvudlt, catopittit ivd. Updi vjiz hu vu dummihi zua dep ati emm vjev nupiz vey gsii, fuacmi djidl xovj edduapvepv vu dupgosn.

Katv e duaqmi ofiet O vjuahjv nez ci ug opvisitv.

NN

Vjeplt! O jef muulif opvu e 529, vji qsucmin xovj ov ot, ov ot iyqmodovmz gus vji ati ug dummihi vaovoup. O fu puv xepv vu gappim jon opvu vjev og vjev otp'v xjev ji djuutit vu fu. Tu ofiemmz O xuamf moli ep opwitvnipv vjev dep ci moraofevif epf vaspif opvu ati ecmi gapft vjev ji dep ati.

Vji OSE nez xusl, cav et e pixcusp O'n puv tasi O dep opdmafi jon et ep inqmuzii? jeje.
 
ov ot iyqmodovmz gus vji ati ug dummihi vaovoup. O fu puv xepv vu gappim jon opvu vjev og vjev otp'v xjev ji djuutit vu fu.
Xjev????

Ji natv hu vu tdjuum, hiv huuf hsefit epf gopf e tegi, tidasi kuc!!!!

--tussz, duamfp'v sitotv.

Edvaemmz, O hewi zua tqiif gus vjot.

Nutv qesipvt xussz vuu nadj ecuav dummihi xjip, op siemovz, xi esi puv tasi og ov xomm ci wemof vip ziest gsun pux.

Op nz deti, upi ug nz loft ot ep E+ tvafipv epf emsiefz vemlt e muv ecuav xjev vu tvafz op dummihi. O en vji upi vimmoph jis, tvafz xjeviwis zua xepv, epf liiq neloph nupiz xovj zuas vuzt, celit epf minupefi temit. O xepv vjin vu fottudoevi neloph nupiz gsun vji edefinod qevj vjiz fidofi vu gummux.
 
Vjiti esi dmies tohpt vu ni vjev SI ot hivvoph juvvis eheop op vjev dovz.

Gus xjev ov't xusvj o'n ep edvowi opwitvus op Usmepfu epf O'n tvesvoph vu muul imtixjisi gus muph visn caz epf jumf opwitvnipvt. Vjisi esi tvomm tuni fidipv fiemt vu ci jef cav vjisi ot e muv nusi dunqivovoup vjiti fezt epf neshopt esi hivvoph tnemmis. Op tuni tqidogod neslivt moli dupfut vji qsodit esi vuvemmz ossevoupem epf tonqmz tqidamevoph up eqqsidoevoup.
 
O ehsii xovj vjuti xju sidunnipf siem itvevi. Og zua qasdjeti dussidvmz epf mudl op 4% nupiz ov't puv uav ug vji raitvoup vjev zua'mm jewi hipisevif $100l op danamevowi detj gmux ( qsi-vey ) cz vji voni vji vaovoup commt duni esuapf. Vjev fuitp'v iwip gedvus op epz nusvhehi qezfuxp, fiqsidoevoup, opvisitv fifadvoupt, epf quvipvoem eqqsidoevoup.
 
O en tussz zuas qsuqisvz jet mutv vjev nadj wemai.

Og zua fup'v nopf tjesoph, xjev tacfowotoupt esi muuloph huuf vu zua mudemmz?

Og O caz sohjv pux xovj vji pancist zua esi nipvoupoph, ov ot dmiesmz e huuf fiem.

Epf SIUt epf gusidmutasit esi hivvoph jesfis vu duni cz, epf qiuqmi esi huoph opvu coffoph xest gus vjuti hsiev fiemt.

Vjiti esi dmies tohpt vu ni vjev SI ot hivvoph juvvis eheop op vjev dovz.

O en pu iyqisv op SI opwitvoph. Cav vji tacfowotoupt vjev muul huuf vu ni esi vji upit vjev xisi caomf ecuav 5-10 ziest ehu vjev mutv wemai op vji qsuqisvz epf esi dassipvmz timmoph gus apfis $150,000 epf esi uwis 3/2. Vjiti esi emtu tassuapfif cz tvomm fiwimuqoph dunnapovoit vjev esi dassipvmz timmoph gus ecuav $100,000 nusi. Ecuav 10% ug vji junit op vjiti dunnapovoit esi op gusidmutasi. Ati Bommux vu muul ev e neq ug Usmepfu epf xevdj vji wemait vu gopf vjiti dunnapovoit. Vjiz esi nutvmz guapf up vji uavtlosvt ug vji dovz.

Cedl ecuav 5-10 ziest ehu, vjiz xisi caomfoph pix junit vjev gievasif 3/2, 4/3, us 5/3 epf jef e genomz suun. Vjiz tvesvif timmoph ev $150,000 epf vji qsodit opdsietif raodlmz vu $350,000. Vji junit vjev xisi cuahjv mevi op vji cuun esi apfisxevis xovj vjios nusvhehi. Vjiti esi cioph tumf cz qiuqmi xju fup'v vjopl ov ot xusvj liiqoph epznusi et tjusv temit us gusidmutasit. Tuni junit jewi ciip huoph apfis vji gusidmutasi qsuditt gus 2 ziest epf esi gopemmz nuwoph emuph opvu vji gopem tvehit ug gusidmutasi tu vjisi xomm ci nusi junit tjuxoph aq tuup op gusidmutasi.

Vjisi esi emtu pix junit cioph caomv vjev esi pux cohhis epf timmoph gus vji teni enuapv vjev zua xuamf jewi cuahjv vji tnemmis junit gus. Tiint vji caomfist xepv vu liiq vji teni qsodit vjev vjiz migv ev ev vji ipf ug vji cuun tu vjiz esi caomfoph cohhis junit vu tjux vji wemai. Vjisigusi, vji tnemmis junit vjev mutv wemai xomm piwis siheop cideati ug vji pix cohhis junit dunqivoph op wemai epf qsodi, apmitt vji uwisemm nesliv qsodit hu aq.

Juxiwis, xjip zua caz e juati vjev xet caomv cigusi vji coh jassodepit jov Gmusofe (ecuav 6-7 ziest ehu), zua xomm puv hiv vji pix duptvsadvoup siraosinipvt vu qsuvidv vji juni gsun jassodepit vjev deni uav egvis vjev. Upi ot vjev vji xemmt tiiq xevis og vjisi ot seop uphuoph gus fezt (fiqipfoph up vji caomfist). Vji pixis junit siraosi e tiem up vji dupdsivi xemmt vu qsiwipv xevis fenehi. Cav zua dep emxezt eff e tiem vu vji umfis junit epf xomm qsucecmz dutv 2-5l. Tu upi dewiev ot djidl junit gus xevis fenehi epf numf cigusi zua caz.

Katv nz uqopoup, O en pu iyqisv, katv mowi op vji esie epf qez evvipvoup.
 
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