Opinions on Dan Koe?

[Adam256]

I am currently in the middle of reading the Art of Focus by Dan Koe, and have seen some of his content before, but I was curious to see if anyone else heard about him before?

 

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[theag]

Never heard of him. After a quick google search, he seems like your typical run-of-the-mill wannabe guru. So pass from me.

 

[ZackerySprague]

He's okay. I've seen some of his videos.

 

[Vntonio]

I have read all of his letters (newsletter) and seen 90% of his videos since his beginning.

He is documenting his journey on psychology, the human mind, spirituality and writing.
In the beginning, his content was good, "originally"-putting together all the books he read so he can make you more enlighted.

But what about now?
He is trying to sell his programs, courses, masterminds, books and soon to be his SAAS.
More than that, every single letter has the same format, and the same ideas, he just mixes the ideas to form a new old topic.

In the last few months, I read the same shit over and over again. I'm now bored, nothing new, just his products every 500 words.

 

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[MTF]

At first I thought he was interesting because he was a solopreneur making lots of money. Then I realized he was just another Twitter bro telling everyone to do what he does (generic self-help) and selling them dreams.

His emails are ridiculously convoluted, written in a pseudo-intellectual style that reminds me of Nassim Taleb. There's no real business advice behind it, just becoming another guru writing the same shit in the same cliche Twitter style.

There are lots of guys like him appearing recently, claiming they figured out a way to be a 7-figure solopreneur. But dig into their background and you'll notice that many of them are now successful only because they had an extremely high-paying job (like Justin Welsh) or don't have any real products outside of the Twitter circle jerk world.

 

[Indulgency]

I think he is a great creator, great marketer, has built a finely tuned audience, and is great at monetizing his audience and building himself a funnel of people willing to pay for his products. So he has built himself a great business. Can you learn some things from him that add value to your life related to productivity or similar ideas? For sure. Is it worth paying for any of his stuff? Probably not. You could just read the common books and ideas much of his content is based on yourself.

Personally, when I first saw his videos a year or so ago they sounded intelligent and worth watching, but I have since unsubscribed. the value add is no longer there for me. The 20 minute rants of him saying basic things in a complex way to sound enlightened has gotten old.

 

[StrikingViper69]

I read two of his tweets after reading this thread. This type of guru’ing can be done with ChatGPT;’ for sure

 

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[Panos Daras]

I am at a point with these Gurus that the more I read or consume, the worse I feel about myself.

It's really hurting me. This is why I stopped with business/ self-help books. Now I just read about scientific topics and history. You can learn more about the real world and humanity from these kinds of books.

To be honest, after I read Noah's book, "Million Dollar Weekend," which focused on people just starting out, I realized I already knew everything I needed. Taking action and finding my personalized 'why' is way more important. Like much, much more.

It's like the old days with journalists; they all said the same stuff but with a different spin.

More and more content without any context. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired. Their whole business model is selling books and courses. That also applies to this guy Dan Koe. It is just fluff.

 

[Kevin88660]

His free content seems decent.

Reminds me of Dan Lok who has been delivering good free content, and the only complaints against him come from people who paid for his high ticket sales courses.

 

[AceVentures]

Was initially impressed with Dan Koe. Subscribed to his newsletter and bought one of his programs.

Didn't get much value from either.

Here's what I learned:

- Use yourself as the model for your future clients. (meaning solve your own problems, delve into your own interests, and you will likely find other people across the vast sea of the internet who resonate with what you have to say)

That's practically all I liked about his material.

Dude is great at marketing.

Uses his graphic designs to infatuate noobs but underneath his "secrets" is a handful of notion templates and and ungodly amount of gibberish.

The thing with him as well as many other gurus like him is that he tells you to follow your dreams and your interests to find clients, but that's not really what he's doing. He's selling you on the dream of following your dreams.

IMO typically guru nonsense.

I did enjoy buying his program in the sense that it free'd me from believing there was some magic sauce that I didn't already have.

Sometimes it's good for your growth to buy into some of the marketing so you can learn their funnel. You likewise liberate yourself from the belief that there's some secret to solopreneurship outside of the basic premise of delivering useful products and services to other people.

 

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[mikecarlooch]

At first I thought he was interesting because he was a solopreneur making lots of money. Then I realized he was just another Twitter bro telling everyone to do what he does (generic self-help) and selling them dreams.

His emails are ridiculously convoluted, written in a pseudo-intellectual style that reminds me of Nassim Taleb. There's no real business advice behind it, just becoming another guru writing the same shit in the same cliche Twitter style.

There are lots of guys like him appearing recently, claiming they figured out a way to be a 7-figure solopreneur. But dig into their background and you'll notice that many of them are now successful only because they had an extremely high-paying job (like Justin Welsh) or don't have any real products outside of the Twitter circle jerk world.

There also appears to be an overflow recently of these 18-20 somethings making get rich easy youtube videos with the word "lol" in the title.

so cancerous. one reason why i deleted youtube off my computer

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I subscribe to about 60-70 newsletters.

Most of them are offered by gurus and have devolved into a perpetual sales pitch for some high-priced coaching program.

Folks, don’t fall for the pitch.

Your success won’t be found in some overpriced coaching program peddled by a guru.

These gurus all share the same foundational spin: that there’s some magic formula, some silver bullet, some secret to success when all they are doing is a “perceived value hustle” and selling it to the gullible in some expensive coaching program.

Here's the easiest and fastest masterclass on how to make millions, and it won't cost you thousands of dollars or countless hours of time sifting through fluff stolen from books written years ago.

Folks, it is this simple.

Create, communicate, and deliver perceived value to the world.

Here is that simple sentence deconstructed:

Create - product development, real value with genuine value skews.
Communicate perceived value- marketing.
Deliver - execution/logistics
World - Scale, selling to more people.

Like all guru garbage being sold on YouTube and elsewhere, the problem is that “perceived value” is wrapped up in slick marketing, and real, actual value tends not to live up to the hype. For gurus, the game is won when you buy their $5,000 program, not in the value you receive and execute upon.

This is why marketing is valued above all disciplines in the guruverse—you win at crafting perceived value while not being obligated to fulfill those expectations.

The world wants shortcuts and secrets.

And there are millions of gurus out there who are willing to fill that market need and sell you that illusion.

Don't be fooled.

If someone is offering you 1, 2 ,3, and 4 as a "business in a box" -- YOU ARE THE BUSINESS.

Class dismissed.

 

[Black_Dragon43]

I know good/respectable entrepreneurs who like Dan Koe. Personally I don’t much like Dan Koe, but I haven’t looked into him that much. It seems he mostly sells to beginners/newbies.

Not that this is a problem, but I see this as “low effort”. I don’t put much focus at all selling to newbies, because it’s not fun. They usually have basic problems that they struggle with, problems that already have solutions they’re just not implementing them. The reasons why they don’t solve those problems are psychological, and have little to do with lacking the necessary knowledge.

In some cases, newbies are BEYOND HELP. In the sense that you can’t help them, they need life experiences and ambition.

I have made money off newbies in the past. You can definitely do well that way. But it’s boring — it’s not challenging. As a successful entrepreneur you find it so tiring to get retard after retard come to you and struggle to even tie their shoes…

It’s like the question I ask myself is how can I outrun Usain Bolt, and they’re asking “how can I tie my shoes?”

Now I’m not trying to say it’s not useful to have gurus teaching you how to tie your shoes. For some people, that’s exactly what they need. It’s just not for me though.

 

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