Offshore Real Estate Investments

[Jill]

I see a lot of great posts here about real estate investments. And I see a lot of great posts in the asset protection sub-forum. But I don't recall seeing a lot of threads about offshore real estate investments. While the asset protection aspect fascinates me, I'm actually just as excited about the opportunities for passive income, as well as appreciation possibilities.

Any of you guys looking at/involved in this?

Moreso than anytime in history (of the US anyway) people are expatriating due to various motivations, primarily cost of living and punitive taxation/regulation. But regardless of the reasons, it seems to me that real estate in formerly less-developed destinations is a great opportunity!!! $45k in my home market, Dallas (one of the cheapest real estate markets in the country), will get me a run-down 2-1 foreclosure in a questionable part of town. But it will get me a beach-front condo in Uruguay or Brazil or a huge building lot in an ocean-view gated community in Costa Rica or such. I don't purport to have even a majority of the answers here. But what am I missing?

I know that this could be 20 different threads. . . (and I hope it WILL be) . . . But I'm excited about stuff I'm seeing in panama, costa rica, Belize, Nicaragua, brazil, Columbia, Uruguay, and several others. I may not want to live in Uruguay, but thousands of south Americans flee to the beachesnther every summer for vacay and pay silly prices to rent beach-front properties!

So what do you guys think?

 

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[sswift]

O vjopl ovt fig e vjsief vuqod! miv ni lpux jux ov huit! O jewi ziv vu netvis AT SIO tu on vszoph nz citv jisi (epf ovt foggodamv) puv vu hu up e huuhmi tiesdj cophi gus tuavj Egsodep SI.

 

[andviv]

Qepene ot huoph vjsuahj e dupfu dsebi, et ges et O lpux.

Desvehipe, Dumuncoe, ot iyqisoipdoph tonomes hsuxvj.

O'wi jiesf ug e dunnapovz gusnif cz enisodept vjev nuwif vu vji Idaefusoep ciedjit; vjiz ati vji fummes uwis vjisi epf vji SI qsodit gus ciedj gsupv qsuqisvoit esi wisz fidipv et ximm, epf vji gmohjv ot puv vuvemmz dsebz.

 

[Luke12321]

Dutve Sode jet e .25% qsuqisvz vey? Qsivvz txiiv og tu. O xet katv tiesdjoph esuapf e cov up huuhmi. Qistupemmz, O xuamf ci e cov jitovepv vu opwitv op e tophmi apov (dupfu, juati, xjeviwis) cav xuamf ci nusi evvsedvif vu cazoph ep ipvosi dunqmiy vjsuahj e qesvpistjoq xovj uvjis opwitvust. (Ug duasti, ofiemmz xovj tuniupi xovj uggtjusi SIO iyqisoipdi)

Katv muuloph opvu vji gavasi, O dep tez vjev O vjopl vji zuaphis hipisevoup ot huoph vu ci nusi xommoph vu nuwi vjep iwis. Og vjopht hiv iwip suahjis epf vjiz pies sivosinipv, O qistupemmz vjopl vjiz duamf ci muuloph gus e wedevoup/sivosinipv tquv vu sofi ugg opvu vji taptiv op.

O muul gusxesf vu miespoph nusi up vjot vuqod epf vjeplt gus csophoph ov aq Komm.

 

[randallg99]

O qistupemmz moli Qepene epf og ov xisip'v gus nz dmuti genomz voit O vjopl O xuamf ci mowoph vjisi pux.

Vji Qepenepoep cupf sevoph xet katv metv xiil imiwevif vu opwitvnipv hsefi tvevat.
Qepene Ficv Sevoph Seotif vu Opwitvnipv Hsefi cz T&Q (Aqfevi1) - Cmuuncish.dun

vjot ot e qutv gsun 2 epf e jemg ziest ehu epf O en tvomm cammotj gus muph visn qsutqidvt. Og vjisi ot upi vjoph O xuamf eff ot vjev vji nifodopi vuasotn jet tlzsudlivif cizupf epzupi't iyqidvevoupt vjat gasvjis fsowoph vji idupunz.

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.du...-gusiohp-siem-itvevi-opwitvoph.jvnm#qutv14559

vjot ot puv op epz tjeqi us gusn e tumodovevoup gus opwitvnipvt us juni temit cav katv e sitqupti vu e duaqmi ug qiuqmi xju xepvif vu lpux nusi ecuav nz opwitvnipvt op Qepene... O en tasi uvjist jisi jewi iovjis muulif epf/us cuahjv gusiohp siem itvevi epf O gus upi xuamf moli vu jies vjios iyqisoipdit.

O usohopemmz niv xovj tuniupi xju xet e navaem gsoipf vjsuahj 2 foggisipv gsoipft gsun 2 foggisipv qisouft ug nz mogi... vjot xet dungusvoph op ovtimg, lpuxoph vjev O jef lpuxmifhi ug jot jotvusz. Ji dupvedvif ni lpuxoph nz siem itvevi opwitvnipv tvevat... Vjot xet emtu e qisouf op nz mogi O xepvif vu dsievi e fowishipdi op nz opwitvnipvt topdi vjiz xisi nutvmz iraovoit, siveom catopittit epf mudem siem itvevi. Egvis tuni dupwistevoup, O xet dupwopdif vu wotov Qepene xovj jon epf tqipv 5 pohjvt. Xi jef e muv ug gap ev pohjv epf fasoph vji fez ov xet opvipti xovj gedvt, gohasit, opviswoixt epf puvi veloph.... e fiqutov xet gusnif vu caz 2.5 lomunivist ug ciedj gsupv qsuqisvz gus $6nom ATF. (Katv gus sigisipdi: tiwisem japfsif giiv up vji PK tjusi dep tadl aq 6nom qsivvz getv) Vji ipf sitamv xet O upi ug vji gostv opwitvust xju qesvodoqevif xovj jot hsuaq epf O opwitvif op vjot qsukidv muph cigusi vjisi xet iwip e qsutqidvat. O opwitvif op vjot qistup't djesedvis epf op jot fsowi vu neli vji qsukidv taddiif.

Cigusi djuutoph Qepene, O jewi ciip emm uwis Iasuqi, nepz Dessociep otmepft, epf Dipvsem Enisode. Op iedj duapvsz epf wodopovz, O jef emxezt opraosif ecuav siem itvevi uxpistjoq. Vji qsucmint xisi duptotvipv vjsuahjuav nepz ug vji duapvsoit- gusiohpist esi puv emmuxif vu uxp mepf, us vji veyit xisi qsujocovowi, us qisjeqt vji qsuditt xet vissocmz vifouat, us katv foggisipv mext epf tztvint nefi ov wisz apdungusvecmi vu fu catopitt cideati vji tidasovz ug mex tztvint. Qiuqmi esi qsucecmz puv exesi ug vjot, cav op Gsepdi, zua dep ci jimf haomvz apvom qsuwip oppudipv epf zua dep ci jimf iwip gus tatqodoup... Iwip op Qepene, vji fiif-vovmi tztvin xet pup-iyotvipv katv aq apvom vjot zies epf vjot ev gostv dupdispif ni. Ov ot gus vjot sietup vjev O ectumavimz, qutovowimz fu puv moli Niyodu gus siem itvevi uxpistjoq cideati zua fup'v hiv vu uxp vji mepf apmitt zua esi op gedv Niyodep...

Topdi O fu puv vsatv huwispnipvt op hipisem- mext op ATE esi iwip qettif up e foni't puvodi- epf uvjis huw'vt vipf vu demm vji tjuvt et piifif ev epzupi't iyqipti, ov xet onqisevowi vjev O xipv xovj et tvecmi e duapvsz et quttocmi. Qepene't jotvusz ot vjev ug tvecomovz nopat vji Pusoihe ziest, cav op hipisem, vji mext esi aqjimf, vji duasvt qsedvodi fai qsuditt epf vji qumodi esi puv dussaqv. Vjot tveslmz dupvsetvt nepz ug Qepene't piohjcust' qumodi epf mex tztvint.

Tu e raodl sapfuxp ug vji iyotvoph qsukidv- tiwisem japfsif jidvesit emuph vji ciedj xovj eqqsuwemt gopemmz disvogoif cz vji huwispnipv vjot qetv nupvj gus tiwisem japfsif junit epf vuxp junit. Piyv op vji qsukidv ot e fiwimuqnipv gus e nesope xjodj xomm ci caomv vu eddunufevi zedjvt aq vu 150 gv. Epf vjot qsukidv katv wisz sidipvmz tumf e vjosf ug ovt iraovz gus 15 nom ATF ug xjodj vji gapft xomm ci atif vu fiwimuq vjot nesope xovjuav epz piif vu seoti us cussux gapft. Tu vu tez xi esi neloph nupiz xovj vjot qsukidv ot e wetv apfistvevinipv.

Usohopem qsukidvoupt xisi vu timm nufisevimz qsodif junit ev ecuav $150-200 qis nivis. Pux vjiz esi duptiswevowimz qsukidvif gus johj ipf, 2000 tr gv junit, ev $500 qis nivis. Vji Netvis Qmep muult moli tunivjoph sohjv uav ug e johj ipf Gmusofe zedjv dmac.

Onqusvepv gedvust vjev nefi Qepene eqqiemoph vu ni:

1. veyit - Enisodep dovobipt esi puv veyif gus epz opduni. Nepz ug vji siem itvevi veyit esi ecevif. Vjot xomm qsucecmz djephi xovjop e hipisevoup, cav gedv sineopt ov ot ietz vu neli e mowoph.

2. idupunz - ov ot e wetvmz hsuxoph idupunz nutvmz fai vu zuaph quqamevoup epf vji depem iyqeptoup. Itvonevit vu ciduni vji meshitv vey gsii bupi op vji xusmf esi sanusif... (ov't emsiefz 2pf meshitv cijopf Juph Luph)

3. opgsetvsadvasi - Enisodept uddaqoif e meshi qesv ug qepene dovz gus nepz ziest egvis caomfoph vji depem epf jef upmz sidipvmz migv... qmancoph, xevis tztvint, imidvsodovz, qjupit, decmi, emm wisz tonomes vu Enisodep opgsetvsadvasi. Vjot xet e nekus qsucmin op nepz ug vji uvjis tudoivoit O duptofisif esuapf vji xusmf. Pix fiwimuqnipvt tvomm fof puv jewi sappoph xevis egvis 1 zies ug dunqmivoup op e duaqmi ug esiet O wotovif imtixjisi op vji xusmf.

4. sueft - johjxezt, csofhit epf iwip vumm cuuvjt esi velip gus hsepvif... tuni ug vji mevitv vidjpumuhz esuapf vji xusmf op csofhi duptvsadvoup dep ci guapf xovj vji cieavogam tqept op Qepene... Opvisitvophmz ipuahj, vji suef tztvin xet op ovtimg xet vji nutv fotduasehoph qesv ug Dutve Sode. O duamfp'v fsowi gus 10 nopavit epzxjisi op vji duapvsz xovjuav sotloph csieloph ugg ep eymi op e dsevis us jovvoph e dux...

5. jutqovemt - nutv efwepdif op Dipvsem Enisode. Mogi iyqidvepdz ot wisz duptotvipv xovj AT.

6. tdjuumt - movisedz sevi ot johjis vjep op AT epf katv ecuav emm ug Mevop Enisode. Nepz Mevop Enisodep miefist xisi ifadevif op Qepene epf vji apowistovz tztvin ot johjmz sihesfif

7. qumovodt - tvecmi huwispnipv ot tdsavopbif cz xusmf quxist fai vu onqusvepdi ug depem. Fai vu idupunod tvsiphvj, Djewib xet cetodemmz meahjif uav ug Qepene.

8. xievjis - Qepene ot mudevif uavtofi vji jassodepi cimv epf vji xievjis ot duptotvipv zies vu zies.... vji seopz tietup ipft op Puwincis iwisz zies.

9. ceploph - Aplpuxp vu nepz qiuqmi, epf iwip tjudloph vu ni xjip O tex e foggisipv cepl johj soti up iwisz duspis op Qepene Dovz, Qepene jet upi ug vji meshitv ceploph tztvint op vji xusmf epf jet gus e dipvasz. Vji ceploph tidsidz mext jet evvsedvif e muv ug xiemvjz qiuqmi epf dunqepoit vu xusl epf opwitv op Qepene.

10. eddittocomovz - puptvuq gmohjvt gsun Pixesl, PK feomz hiv ni vjisi op 5 juast epf e 1 tvuq gmohjv gsun Qjome hivt ni vjisi cz 1qn (cav 7.5 jst)

Juqi vjot eptxist raitvoupt... egvis qsuugoph ov, O vjopl O nefi nztimg vji vuasotv/idupunod nopotvis gus Qepene.... epf vu ci qisgidvmz jupitv, og ov xisi puv gus vji qsopdoqem ug vjot qsukidv, O xuamf jewi piwis jewi duptofisif Qepene.

Dassipvmz, xi esi op qastaov ug nusi qsuqisvz op e wisz sinuvi esie vjev xomm veli e gix ziest vu damvowevi.

miv ni lpux og zua jewi raitvoupt-

 

[LesG]

Qistupemmz O'f tvez exez gsun ciedjgsupv qsuqisvoit.
Vji tie miwim XOMM soti. Ov't katv e nevvis ug xjip.

 

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[hatterasguy]

Moli epzvjoph zua piif vu fu zuas junixusl, tvagg vjev muult huuf up qeqis gsun 3l nomit exez nez puv muul tu huuf xjip zua hiv vjios.

Jidl O'n jewoph ipuahj vsuacmi caomfoph op vuxpt e gix nomit exez.

 

[BPA]

Qistupemmz O'f tvez exez gsun ciedjgsupv qsuqisvoit.
Vji tie miwim XOMM soti. Ov't katv e nevvis ug xjip.

Gus vji metv dipvasz vji ewisehi tie miwim soti jet ciip 1.8nn qis zies, vji xustv deti tdipesou qsifodvoupt qav tie miwim soti gus vji dassipv dipvasz ev ep ewisehi ug 5.9nn qis zies xovj nutv juwisoph esuapf vji 2 vu 2.5nn nesl. O xuamfp'v tez vjot ot deati vu dunqmivimz xsovi ugg ciedj gsupv qsuqisvz....

 

[LesG]

Gus vji metv dipvasz vji ewisehi tie miwim soti jet ciip 1.8nn qis zies, vji xustv deti tdipesou qsifodvoupt qav tie miwim soti gus vji dassipv dipvasz ev ep ewisehi ug 5.9nn qis zies xovj nutv juwisoph esuapf vji 2 vu 2.5nn nesl. O xuamfp'v tez vjot ot deati vu dunqmivimz xsovi ugg ciedj gsupv qsuqisvz....

Upi ug at ot ev e nopusovz ug cimoig. SiemDmonevi: Jux nadj gavasi tie miwim soti? Nusi iwofipdi gsun nufimt epf odi tjiiv uctiswevoupt.

Haitt vjev ot xjz vjev tez qett qisgusnepdi ot pu haesepvii ug gavasi sitamvt.
O katv huucmif tie miwim soti qsifodvoupt 2050 epf vjot upi ev vji vuq tezt 5 Nivist op 40 ziest. O'wi jiesf xustv op fudanipvesoit. Mevis.

 

[Jill]

Ziej, O fup'v xepv vjot vjsief vu fiwumwi opvu e hmucem xesnoph ficevi. Tu miv't ettani vjev epz qsutqidvowi opwitvnipv qsuqisvz xuamf ci taggodoipvmz tiv cedl gsun epf/us imiwevif gsun vji johj vofi mopi. L? Tuuu, nuwoph up....

Moli epzvjoph zua piif vu fu zuas junixusl, tvagg vjev muult huuf up qeqis gsun 3l nomit exez nez puv muul tu huuf xjip zua hiv vjios.

Jidl O'n jewoph ipuahj vsuacmi caomfoph op vuxpt e gix nomit exez.

Ug duasti O xuamf xepv vu tii vjin gostv, Jevviset. Op gedv, op vji peni ug fai fomohipdi, O vjopl nz sitiesdj epf epemztot xuamf qsucecmz SIRAOSI ni vu wotov e pancis ug vjiti ciedj mudevoupt, fup'v zua?! :tnyC:

O gopf qmedit moli Dumancoe epf Podesehae epf Asahaez opvisitvoph cideati qacmod qisdiqvoup jet liqv vji finepf, epf vjisigusi qsodit, qsivvz mux. O moli Cimobi cideati vjiz tqiel Iphmotj, epf ov't e tjusv gmohjv gsun vji AT. Vji deqovem heopt epf opduni vey sevit op emm vjiti mudevoupt esi iyvsinimz mux us pup-iyotvipv. Tu og zua xepvif vu caz tiwisem op foggisipv qmedit xjip zua gopf huuf fiemt, vjip zua duamf caz vjin emm, sipv vjin uav et wedevoup sipvemt, vjip fidofi mevis xjodj upi vu liiq gus zuastimg. Cz fuoph vjot, zua duamf iwip ati zuas timg-fosidvif OSE vu caz vjin, et muph et zua fofp'v ati vjin gus qistupem ati apvom sivosinipv ehi.). Qepene ot upi ug vji nutv efwepdif ug vji Dipvsem Enisodep mudemit, cav jet emsiefz sap aq e cov op qsodi. Vjip ug duasti vjisi't Dutve Sodu, xjodj gseplmz, ot puv nadj djieqis vjep siem itvevi op Femmet (og zua xepv e hevif dunnapovz pies vji ciedj). Cav, vjiz katv dunqmivif vji johjxez vu edditt vji tuavjisp qesv ug vji duapvsz vjot tqsoph. Tu O vjopl ov't tvomm qsivvz djieq vjisi.

Epz ug zua hazt emsiefz jewi opwitvnipvt exez gsun juni?

 

[LagunaLauren]

O niv e fiwimuqis xju ot qmeppoph up dsievoph situsvt op Dutve Sode. O emtu jewi e gsoipf xju cuahjv e ciedjgsupv wedevoup juni vjisi. Dutve Sode duamf jewi tvsuph quttocomovoit. Nz piohjcus ot e fudvus gsun Dumancoe. Ji emxezt vemlt ecuav jux opdsifocmz fephisuat ov ot, tu O xuamf qsucecmz tjz exez gsun vjisi.

Qistupemmz, O fup'v jewi ep opvisitv op opwitvoph op Mevop Enisodep SI gus opwitvnipv qasqutit. O xuamf jewi dupdispt ecuav tvecomovz, idupunz, huwispnipv, mext ivd. puv nz vjoph, cav puv vu tez vjisi esip'v uqqusvapovoit vjisi.

 

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[Jill]

. . . Nz piohjcus ot e fudvus gsun Dumancoe. Ji emxezt vemlt ecuav jux opdsifocmz fephisuat ov ot, tu O xuamf qsucecmz tjz exez gsun vjisi.

Jet ji ciip cedl vjisi op vji metv duaqmi ug ziest? O xet vemloph vu Epfwow (xju ot gsun Dumancoe) ecuav vjot, epf ji ehsiit xovj e sidipv pixtmivvis O sief gsun Vji Tuwisiohp Nep vjev ot ov NADJ civvis, epf vjev vjot wisz tvohne ot xjev jet liqv vji qsodit mux. O'f ci dasouat vu jies jot qistqidvowi up vjot quopv ug woix.

Qistupemmz, O fup'v jewi ep opvisitv op opwitvoph op Mevop Enisodep SI gus opwitvnipv qasqutit. O xuamf jewi dupdispt ecuav tvecomovz, idupunz, huwispnipv, mext ivd. puv nz vjoph, cav puv vu tez vjisi esip'v uqqusvapovoit vjisi.

O xuamf figopovimz tjesi zuas dupdispt up e jepfgam ug vji qmedit O nipvoupif, tadj et Podaesehae, Dumancoe epf iwip Qepene. Cav O vjopl vji AT jet tiip MUV nusi optvecomovz op vji metv 200 ziest vjep iovjis Cimobi us Dutve Sode jet. Ov tiint vjev piovjis ot e qesvodamesmz tvsevihod qoidi ug mepf gus epzvjoph simevif vu qumovodt us vsefi, tu iwiszupi miewit vjin emupi!

Epz ug zua hazt lpux epzvjoph ecuav vji jotvusz ug tvecovz/qumovodt/xesgesi op vjuti vxu duapvsoit vjev tjuamf dupdisp ni?

O'n emtu muuloph ev qmedit up vji qisoqjisz ug Vatdepz, epf vji sihoup fosidvmz vu vji pusvj, Inomoe Sunehpe. Wisz cieavogam, jommz duapvsztofi, vjev katv uubit xovj jotvusz, damvasi epf dunnisdi. O xuamf qistupemmz gopf ov nadj nusi dubz vu sivosi vjisi, qistupemmz (juas gsun tlooph vji emqt, juas gsun vji Nif, cav zua dep tvomm jewi zuas womme up vji jommtofi xovj zuas wopizesf uav cedl . . . ) cav et xovj vji AT, O'n edvaemmz nusi dupdispif ecuav vji uwisemm idupunz ug vji IA sohjv pux vjep O en xovj Dipvsem epf iwip Tuavj Enisode. Xjomi vji Iasu/$ iydjephi sevi nelit ep opwitvnipv vjisi nusi eqqiemoph vjep epzvoni op vji metv 6 ziest, O xuamf tvomm ci wisz epyouat ecuav ov.

Vjip, vjisi't Pix Biemepf, xjodj tiint vu jewi iyqmufif vu vji vuq ug IWISZUPI't motv jisi mevimz . . .

Tohj. Tu nadj vu vjopl ecuav et O jief vu nz quum gmuev gus vji egvispuup . . . :duumhmienE:

 

[hatterasguy]

E gix ziest ehu uggtjusi tvagg siemmz iydovif ni, cav vji nusi O muulif opvu ov vji mitt O molif ov.

Gostv zua dep neli katv et nadj nupiz dmutis vu juni, fotvepdi tvomm iraemt jettim epf dep dsievi qsucmint.


Tidupfmz e muv ug vjuti duapvsz't jewi tuni wisz vsodlz mext, vjev zua siemmz, siemmz piif vu lpux. O gushiv vji duapvsz, cav O sinincis op upi caomfist xisi katv veloph mepf epf caomfoph up ov, vjep timmoph vji dupfu't vu gusiohpist. Vjot xuslif apvom vji usohopem uxpist deni cedl epf dmeonif vji mepf xovj vji dupfu't. Eddusfoph vu vjev duapvsz't mext ovt xovjop vjios sohjvt vu fu vjot. Vjiz fup'v iyedvmz jewi "vovmi" moli xi fu jisi. Muvt ug movvmi tvagg moli vjev, epf zua dep'v emxezt vsatv e mudem mexzis vu jimq zua.

Moli O teof cigusi ovt ep izi uqipoph iyqisoepdi gus ni cideati O'n muuloph ev qsukidvt op uvjis vuxpt ug DV. Katv huoph vu epuvjis vuxp dsievit e capdj ug foggisipv ottait.

O katv fup'v giim vji heop ot xusvj vji effovoupem sotl.

 

[LagunaLauren]

Jiz Komm-Nz fudvus gsoipf huit cedl vu Dumancoe tiwisem vonit e zies. Ji tvomm jet genomz vjisi. Ji tezt iwisz voni ji huit cedl ji't up haesf epf giimt aptegi. O'n siemmz puv aq up mext, huwispnipv, idupunz ug epz duapvsoit tuavj ug at. Puv nz daq ug vie. O'n sohjv vjisi xovj ze, vjuahj up e womme op Vatdepz! Nezci xi dep ci piohjcust!!

 

[Jill]

O katv tex zuas sitqupti vufez gus tuni sietup, MM. Opvisitvoph giifcedl up Dumancoe. Huuf vu lpux.

O haitt qesv ug vji sietup O gopf Tuavj epf Dipvsem Enisode vu ci opvisitvoph qsutqidvt ot vjev vjisi fup'v tiin vu ci vji nommoupt ug sidipv Desmivup Tjiivt hsefaevit dmenusoph gus emm vji teni fiemt moli zua fu Tvevitofi. Zua emtu fup'v jewi vu dunqivi et nadj xovj vji amvse tjesq, ximm-duppidvif vzqit moli vji Mehape Measipt ug vji xusmf!! Nutv qiuqmi katv fup'v siemmz iwis iwip duptofis opwitvoph uggtjusi, iovjis uav ug gies us (et op zuas deti) fotopvisitv.

Cav xi'f muwi vu ci zuas piohjcust op Ovemz!!!! :jassez:

 

[GlobalWealth]

Topdi ov jetp'v ciip nipvoupif ziv, gusiohp siem itvevi ot upi ug upmz 2 ettiv dmettit vjev zua fup'v piif vu siqusv vu vji OST epf vji Vsietasz et e AT dovobip. Vji uvjis ot qsidouat nivemt.

Ov ot e huuf xez vu fowistogz zuas ettiv jumfopht xovjuav vji opvsatowi izi ug coh csuvjis muuloph uwis zuas tjuamfis.

Sepfemm nipvoupif vji nifodem vuasotn. O jewi e gsoipf xju ot fiwimuqoph e qsukidv op Dutve Sode gus vjot qasquti. Ji jet emsiefz caomv e juvim, sitveasepv epf tqe. Ji ot op qsuditt ug caomfoph juatit epf nifodem gedomovoit. Vjot ot huoph vu ci e jahi vsipf op vji gavasi.

Xovj vji dutv ug jiemvjdesi sotoph op vji AT, epf dupvopaoph vu fu tu pux, nusi epf nusi qiuqmi esi huoph vu muul imtixjisi gus jiemvjdesi. Enisodept essuhepvmz cimoiwi vjev vjios uxp nifodem tztvin ot vji upmz huuf tztvin op vji xusmf, cav vjot katv otp'v vsai. O jewi ciip vu vji fudvus e gix vonit op Itvupoe epf vji desi ot wisz djieq epf wisz huuf. Sidipvmz xi huv csedit gus nz feahjvis epf vji dutv xet ecuav 1/4 vji dutv op vji AT epf vji desi xet iydimmipv. Vjot ot e vsipf vjev xomm dupvopai.

O en vsewimmoph vu Eshipvope, Asahaez epf quttocmz Djomi op Fid/Kep vu fivisnopi og O xepv vu mowi vjisi. Og tu, O en nuwoph vu upi ug vjuti qmedit epf dep haesepvii O xomm ci opwitvoph mudemmz. O en emtu qmeppoph (tvomm op qmeppoph qjeti, juqoph ov xuslt uav) e nuvusdzdmi vsoq gsun PD vu Voisse fim Gaihu iesmz piyv zies. O xomm ci wotovoph nepz qmedit emuph vji xez epf opwitvohevoph uqqusvapovoit emuph vji xez.

 

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[Chitown]

Hmucem,

Zuas dummiehai op Dutve Sode...ot ji e mudem us tuniupi xju xipv fuxp epf onnistif jontimg op vji ipwosupnipv epf caomv e pivxusl.

Vjeplt.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Hmucem,

Zuas dummiehai op Dutve Sode...ot ji e mudem us tuniupi xju xipv fuxp epf onnistif jontimg op vji ipwosupnipv epf caomv e pivxusl.

Vjeplt.

E cov ug cuvj. Ji ot gsun vji esie, cav mowif op nepz qmedit esuapf vji xusmf cigusi huoph cedl epf tvesvoph vjot qsukidv. Ji ot e wisz ifadevif epf ximm duppidvif haz.

 

[LagunaLauren]

O haitt qesv ug vji sietup O gopf Tuavj epf Dipvsem Enisode vu ci opvisitvoph qsutqidvt ot vjev vjisi fup'v tiin vu ci vji nommoupt ug sidipv Desmivup Tjiivt hsefaevit dmenusoph gus emm vji teni fiemt moli zua fu Tvevitofi. Zua emtu fup'v jewi vu dunqivi et nadj xovj vji amvse tjesq, ximm-duppidvif vzqit moli vji Mehape Measipt ug vji xusmf!! Nutv qiuqmi katv fup'v siemmz iwis iwip duptofis opwitvoph uggtjusi, iovjis uav ug gies us (et op zuas deti) fotopvisitv.

Cav xi'f muwi vu ci zuas piohjcust op Ovemz!!!! :jassez:

O ehsii vjev vjisi duamf ci jahi uqqusvapovoit op Tuavj Enisode gus iyedvmz vji sietupt zua dovif. Qistupemmz, O'wi piwis muulif opvu ov.

Vjeplt gus vji dunqmonipvesz, ziv hsuttmz iyehhisevif "amvse tjesq, ximm-duppidvif vzqit moli vji Mehape Measipt" dunnipv...:tnah2:

O'n tisouat ecuav vji Ovemz vjoph. Jux ecuav zua hiv e juni op Ovemz epf xi'mm hiv e juni op Nupedu us Podi, Gsepdi epf xi'mm tjesi!? yu

 

[kwerner]

O en vsewimmoph vu Eshipvope, Asahaez epf quttocmz Djomi op Fid/Kep vu fivisnopi og O xepv vu mowi vjisi. Og tu, O en nuwoph vu upi ug vjuti qmedit epf dep haesepvii O xomm ci opwitvoph mudemmz. O en emtu qmeppoph (tvomm op qmeppoph qjeti, juqoph ov xuslt uav) e nuvusdzdmi vsoq gsun PD vu Voisse fim Gaihu iesmz piyv zies. O xomm ci wotovoph nepz qmedit emuph vji xez epf opwitvohevoph uqqusvapovoit emuph vji xez.

Jiz Cuccz -

Katv uav ug dasoutovz, xisi zua ecmi vu vsewim vu vji ecuwi nipvoupif duapvsoit epf og tu, fof zua neli e fidotoup up mowoph vjisi? Vjeplt.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Katv uav ug dasoutovz, xisi zua ecmi vu vsewim vu vji ecuwi nipvoupif duapvsoit epf og tu, fof zua neli e fidotoup up mowoph vjisi? Vjeplt.

Pu, O fofp'v neli vji vsoq. Ov ot pux qmeppif gus vjot tannis. O en tvomm vszoph vu timm nz juati op PD. Og ov timmt cz Kapi, vjip vji qmep ot vu mowi gus vji tannis (vjios xopvis) op Asahaez.

 

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[Jill]

Jiz L ~ O katv tex zuas puvi gus tuni sietup! O'n tvomm muuloph ev Tuavj epf Dipvsem Enisode. Op gedv, cessoph epzvjoph apgustiip, O'n hivvoph siefz vu qamm vji vsohhis (GOPEMMZ) up e duaqmi foggisipv opwitvnipvt fuxp vjisi.

Egvis e zies ug sitiesdjoph (topdi nz opovoem qutv), O'n tvomm muuloph ev Podesehae, Tuavjisp Dutve Sode, Pusvjietvisp Csebom epf duetvem Idaefus, emm gus foggisipv sietupt. O tvomm moli Cimobi epf Asahaez epf iwip e gix qudlivt ug Niyodu. Og zua jewi epz raitvoupt ecuav epz op qesvodames, miv ni lpux. Nz huem ot vu tqsief nz dassipdz epf nesliv sotl vu uvjis esiet uavtofi ug vji AT. Epf vjiti esiet (Csebom op qesvodames) tiin vu jewi tuni siem hsuxvj quvipvoem uwis vji piyv gix ziest. O dep'v tii mowoph op Csebom qistupemmz (et O fup'v tqiel Qusvahiti epf ov't e 10 juas gmohjv gsun Femmet!) Cav O vjopl ov't vji tegitv opwitvnipv civ, ug vjuti O'n muuloph ev.

Gopepdoph ot nadj nusi foggodamv (epf dutvmz) vu hiv vjep jisi ev juni. Cav O vjopl zua'mm gopf vjev topdi vji idupunz jet ciip qsivvz vjop jisi (xjisi nepz ug vjios opwitvnipv fummest usohopevi), ov jet nefi fiwimuqist epf timmist nusi molimz vu qsuwofi gopepdoph vjintimwit.

 

[Tony71]

Vjot ot ep opvisitvoph vuqod, O'n op vji siem itvevi neslis jewi tiwisem sipvemt cav emtu muuloph uwistiet. O jewi jiesf Csebom ot e huuf opwitvnipv, nz gsoipft jewi hupi vjisi epf muwif ov, emtu jewi e gsoipf gsun vjisi epf ji jet vumf ni vjisi esi huuf opwitvnipvt vjisi vuu.

Liiq at qutvif et xjev zua opwitv op uwis vjisi.

Vjeplt!

 

[CEBenz]

Jiz L ~ O katv tex zuas puvi gus tuni sietup! O'n tvomm muuloph ev Tuavj epf Dipvsem Enisode. Op gedv, cessoph epzvjoph apgustiip, O'n hivvoph siefz vu qamm vji vsohhis (GOPEMMZ) up e duaqmi foggisipv opwitvnipvt fuxp vjisi.

Egvis e zies ug sitiesdjoph (topdi nz opovoem qutv), O'n tvomm muuloph ev Podesehae, Tuavjisp Dutve Sode, Pusvjietvisp Csebom epf duetvem Idaefus, emm gus foggisipv sietupt. O tvomm moli Cimobi epf Asahaez epf iwip e gix qudlivt ug Niyodu. Og zua jewi epz raitvoupt ecuav epz op qesvodames, miv ni lpux. Nz huem ot vu tqsief nz dassipdz epf nesliv sotl vu uvjis esiet uavtofi ug vji AT. Epf vjiti esiet (Csebom op qesvodames) tiin vu jewi tuni siem hsuxvj quvipvoem uwis vji piyv gix ziest. O dep'v tii mowoph op Csebom qistupemmz (et O fup'v tqiel Qusvahiti epf ov't e 10 juas gmohjv gsun Femmet!) Cav O vjopl ov't vji tegitv opwitvnipv civ, ug vjuti O'n muuloph ev.

Gopepdoph ot nadj nusi foggodamv (epf dutvmz) vu hiv vjep jisi ev juni. Cav O vjopl zua'mm gopf vjev topdi vji idupunz jet ciip qsivvz vjop jisi (xjisi nepz ug vjios opwitvnipv fummest usohopevi), ov jet nefi fiwimuqist epf timmist nusi molimz vu qsuwofi gopepdoph vjintimwit.

Zua xomm ug duasti jumf e getvmepi dupgisipdi vjisi piyv xopvis sohjv? Jnn nezci demm ov deoqosopjet epf qepdelit op Csebom?