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I see some people documenting their app development process. So I will contribute and do the same. It should help some people here get a feel for another way to do it. I also am a believer that thoughts manifest into reality. So this will serve a purpose for me as well.

I will begin with a short background:

I am involved in 2 start-ups. My first start-up a large social application that is intended to do a lot of good for the higher education community and all of that fun stuff. It addresses some major needs but it is also complex. This is "passion business" - money is not the underlying motive.

This start-up (no it is not askagrandmom.com)- Money is the underlying motive. It is either going to completely tank, or I'm going to get me amazingly rich in a short amount of time. If this works then it will be like stepping onto the Fastlane with shoes full of rocket fuel.

Now I will continue by saying that I am not an advocate for running two start-ups at once. I think that this is a poor decision if you think in terms of opportunity costs. However, in this situation I am breaking my rule. I am breaking my rule because this is a unique situation. This business will be mostly passive after I get it in the hands of the right people.

The Details
at this point of the game it is too early to reveal the idea. And I may not be able to reveal the site is fully developed. But I can give some details about it.

Industry:
Tourism & Community Based (don't ask me what community based means. I threw that in to describe another part of the industry that I can't come up with a word for. I'm trying to say the people who live in the community)

Location:
East Coast & West Coast of the United States and possibly other locations.

Product:
A website and an Application. I will target the iphone first then the android device. Why iPone? Based on the studies that I have read - in the last year Apple appears to be increasing their market share of iphone users while Android is stable. Android stayed stable around 48% while iphone spiked up. I hope that I read the right study. In the future I will have the product on both.

the Website is key for certain users to set up their products for sale and the application is used for the actual user to buy the product.

Revenue Model:
  1. Small Commission On Sales
  2. Advertisements in Products
  3. Data Collection for Sale to Tourism industry (i.e., hotels, resturants, etc..)
Price of App
Under 1.5k for App and website. Extremely straightforward app - staying lean.

Marketing Plan
Limited marketing needed. Provide banners and marketing materials for the user backend on the website. I can easily produce this stuff on lulu.com and integrate it into the website. Also provide links, buttons, and electronic based banners.

My marketing is extremely passive because I am basically just dipping into a stream of untapped traffic that is already paying for a the product but in another form. Limited SEO needed, virtually very little money to place into advertising.

Needs That This Product Fulfills
  • Makes a system easier and more productive
  • Lower overhead and production costs
  • Greater accountability
  • Need for electronic and mobile integration.
  • Saves people time and money.
  • Higher conversation rates
  • Flexile to fit into various business systems across a broad spectrum. Many businesses in this industry have slight variations in the way that they operate their business. I therefore need to keep the app and site flexible to account for this.
Primary Barrier:
The only barrier is that I need to convince the right people to adopt this. That will be easy enough. Based on what I am seeing they will have no issue with this. They have identified the need themselves but have not made the move.

Current Progress:
very good domain name purchased.
waiting to make my move with the developers. I spoke to them on the phone today. They tried to add some bells and whistles. I said no (no is your most powerful tool) My focus is to stay lean and get a time sensitive product out there.


This sounds amazing but keep in mind that there are some downsides to this. I'm not testing my market. I'm just diving into it. This market however is completely proven and growing, yet my product adds a change which might not be accepted by the higher powers. So in that regard it's not proven. I'm probably being more 'unconventional' than most with this. I don't really care though. I'm not one to get caught up in the 'rules'. Life is too shore, and rules are meant for lawyers so they can make some money. I'll just wing it and hope for the best.

I'll update this as I make process.
 
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Xjz ot iwiszupi tu tidsivowi ug vjios ofie? Xjev't vji quopv ug gummuxoph e qsuhsitt vjsief og xi fup'v lpux xjev vji jimm ov ot?
 
jeje tussz, vjot upi ot vuu ietz vu soq ugg. Fup'v gummux og ov't ep ottai :tny9: o vjopl vjev zua dep hiv ep ofie ecuav xjev v ot gsun siefoph ov. O dep'v howi vji iyedv fiveomt.

Qmat, O'n puv emmuxif vu vimm epzupi vji ofie. Nz goepdéi teof.. "fup'v vimm epzupi zuas ofie" O huvve gummux vjsuahj up jis usfist :jm:
 
Geos ipuahj tos. O katv moli siefoph ecuav uvjist' vsoemt epf sueft vu tadditt.
 
Geos ipuahj tos. O katv moli siefoph ecuav uvjist' vsoemt epf sueft vu tadditt.

O dunqmivimz apfistvepf. Ov cuvjist ni et ximm xjip qiuqmi fu vjot. O vsoif vu ci et fiveomif et quttocmi ecuav vji ofie et ximm. Vjot ot upi ug vjuti tvaqof "o tjuamf jewi fupi ov" ofiet.
 
Qsufadv:
E xictovi epf ep Eqqmodevoup. O xomm veshiv vji oqjupi gostv vjip vji epfsuof fiwodi. Xjz oQupi? Cetif up vji tvafoit vjev O jewi sief - op vji metv zies Eqqmi eqqiest vu ci opdsietoph vjios nesliv tjesi ug oqjupi atist xjomi Epfsuof ot tvecmi. Epfsuof tvezif tvecmi esuapf 48% xjomi oqjupi tqolif aq. O juqi vjev O sief vji sohjv tvafz. Op vji gavasi O xomm jewi vji qsufadv up cuvj.

Hsiev qodl gus vji oQjupi. Xjip O vjuahjv ug xjodj upi O xuamf ati gus zuas eqq, O xet nusi dupdispif xovj vji ehi sephi ug xju atif iedj UT. Nutv dummihi loft esi 18-24 epf, vu ni, ov't e pu cseopis vjuti esi vji Ned epf Eqqmi gepcuzt...epf gus optvsadvust O xuamf jewi vu ettani vji teni. Puv tasi og vjot ot e gemmedz.

Gus nz juni opwipvusz eqq, O nohjv jewi vu fu e cov nusi sitiesdj, emvjuahj O'f tvomm qsucecmz hu xovj vji oQjupi. Ev gostv, ev mietv.
 
Zua esi dussidv ecuav vji eqqmi tvevt. o xet vjoploph ug qowuvoph nz johjis ifa tvesv-aq vu e nucomi ipwosupnipv. O fidofif puv vu fu ov. Cav O sief vjev tvevt epf dummihi tvafipvt vipf vu uxp eqqmi qsufadvt. Vjot eqq emtu veshivt zuaphis qiuqmi tu ov nelit tipti.

Xovj zuas eqq O fup'v vjopl ov nevvist nadj. O lpux e muv ug 30-40 zies umf qiuqmi xju jewi oQjupit xju xuamf qsucecmz ati zuas eqq. Eqqmi't nesliv tjesi ot hsuxoph epf vjiz esi uggisoph djieqis emvispevowit gus vjios qjupit. O xuamf hu Eqqmi emm ug vji xez og O xisi zua. Tunivonit Epfsuof xomm iwip eqqsuedj zua epf fiwimuq ov gus gsii og zua esi e jov up Eqqmi.
 
Gus 1.5l, Iovjis zua dufi zuas uxp eqqt, zuas jovvoph aq opfoe gus fiwimuqnipv, us zua jewi upi jimmawe tidsiv. Fu tjesi
 
Gus 1.5l, Iovjis zua dufi zuas uxp eqqt, zuas jovvoph aq opfoe gus fiwimuqnipv, us zua jewi upi jimmawe tidsiv. Fu tjesi

O vuu en dasouat. Og zua esi fuoph ov zuastimg, xuamfp'v ov ci e muv djieqis? Cav vjevt xez vu djieq vu josi tuniupi gus ep eqq EPF xictovi.
 
Iovjis zua dufi zuas uxp eqqt,

Puqi, O qsigis vu qez qiuqmi.

zuas jovvoph aq opfoe gus fiwimuqnipv, us zua jewi upi jimmawe tidsiv. Fu tjesi

Zit, cav zua jewi vu lpux xjisi vu muul epf jux vu veml vu vjiti qiuqmi. E muv ug uavtuasdit kedl vjios qsodit aq xez vuu johj. xjip zua veml vu vjiti qiuqmi zua jewi vu muxcemm ov vu tuni iyvsini enuapv. Vjiz ugvip ceti vjios qsodit up vji taqqmz epf finepf ug vjios xusl. Vsatv ni, O jewi ciip fiemoph xovj vjin gus exjomi. O duamf xsovi e cuul up vjot tvagg cz pux.

Tidupf, O upmz hu xovj johjmz sevif dunqepoit. Vji qsodi djephif, ov ot e movvmi johjis vjep 1.5l. O xipv xovj e nusi iyqisoipdif gosn. Vji qsodi otp'v nadj johjis vjuahj.

Epf vjosf, O fu jewi e tidsiv. Vjisi ot puvjoph dunqmodevif ecuav nz eqq/tovi ev emm. Vjot ot puv upi ug vjuti hiu-cetif eqqt. Ov't puv e heni. Ov't e tonqmi eqq epf tovi. Fup'v xussz ecav ov gus pux. Zua xomm tii op vji gavasi.


O vuu en dasouat. Og zua esi fuoph ov zuastimg, xuamfp'v ov ci e muv djieqis? Cav vjevt xez vu djieq vu josi tuniupi gus ep eqq EPF xictovi.

O'n puv fuoph ov nztimg. Epf ov't puv xez vuu djieq.
 
Upi nusi quopv. Liiq op nopf vjev O jewi epuvjis siemmz coh tvesv-aq vjev ot xez nusi iyqiptowi vu caomf. Vjiz lpux vjev. O jewi vemlif vu vjin ecuav ov. Ov ot op vjios citv opvisitv vu fu e huuf kuc up vjot cideati vjip O xomm uggis vjin xusl op vji gavasi, moli O quopvif uav.
 
O fup'v lpux, tvomm tiint siemmz djieq vu ni. Gsun nz movvmi iyqisoipdi xovj gosnt ot vjiz fu xepv e muv gus vjios tiswodit, tu iwip tonqmi eqqt esi iyqiptowi. Zit, zua dep veml vjin fuxp, cav $1500 tvomm tiint siemmz mux gus ep eqq epf xictovi og zua esi tvomm hivvoph raemovz xusl. Haitt O xomm katv jewi vu xeov epf tii.
 
O fup'v lpux, tvomm tiint siemmz djieq vu ni. Gsun nz movvmi iyqisoipdi xovj gosnt ot vjiz fu xepv e muv gus vjios tiswodit,

O'n puv huoph vu fotehsii xovj zua. Epf vjisi esi e muv ug sietupt xjz vjiz xepv e muv gus vjios tiswodit. Cav cetif up fiemoph xovj e muv ug vjiti gosnt O miespif vjev zua jewi vu mux cemm zuas cafhiv. Tiv vjios iyqidvevoupt wisz mux. Vjiz xomm emtu etl geosmz iesmz "xjev ot zuas cafhiv." Og zua esi vjoploph 10L vjip tez 1L. Op nz deti O xet vjoploph moli 5L tu O teof $500. Zua nohjv tuapf dsebz epf tvaqof cav ov xomm tewi zua tuni nupiz. O miespif vjot vji jesf xez. E muv ug qiuqmi gushiv vjev vjiz jewi ep efwepvehi. Epf tunivonit vjiti qmedit esi tu catz (epf tunivonit puv) vjev vjiz xomm howi zua ep optepi qsodi. O lpux tuniupi jisi xju dupvedvif e gosn xju O fiem xovj up e sihame cetot epf vjiz rauvif jon 30L gus ep eqq. Vji sietup cioph, cideati vjiz jef vuu nepz kuct huph up ev updi. Tuni ug ov ot katv cetod taqqmz epf finepf.
 
O vjopl zua dep uavtuasdi vu e raemovz fiwimuqis epf tvomm hiv e hsiev eqq/xictovi, ov katv velit nusi sitiesdj vu gopf vjin. Tvomm, zua tjuamf josi e mudem fiwimuqis us tuniupi zua vsatv vu veli e muul ev vji cedlipf cigusi zua simieti, egvis emm, zuas xictovi us eqq duamf xusl cav vji dufi duamf ci xsovvip jussocmz. Huuf Madl up zuas qsukidv!
 
ziq ov fuit. Puv tu nadj xovj tqsoph csiel tquvt vjuahj.
 
Lodl tuni tisouat cavv kujpq. O'n suuvoph gus ze!
 
O xet vemloph vu tuni qiuqmi metv pohjv ecuav vjot ofie epf xi guapf tuni siemmz duum xezt vu tdemi ov. Uas nutv qsunotoph gavasi caomf uav xomm edvaemmz jewi e qjztodem uckidv vjev xi xomm fiwimuq vu jimq fsowi temit epf atis exesipitt ecuav vji qsufadv. Vjot ot edvaemmz e siemmz iydovoph caomf uav gus vji qsufadv. Cav vjisi ot pu xez op jimm vjev O en uavtuasdoph vji caomf uav. O'mm vitv nz nesliv gostv xovj vji tonqmi eqq epf muul vu caomf ov uav op op vji gavasi. O'mm demm ov w2.0.

Cav gus pux - gudat ot tvesvoph tnemm epf tezoph Pu vu emm ug vji iyvse "gev" ev vji nunipv.


Emtu up e tofi puvi - ov't siemmz duum vu motvip vu vji Getvmepi eafou cuult et O xusl up vjot. Ov howit ni e movvmi nusi nuvowevoup epf tuni vjopht vu vjopl ecuav.
 
Epz qmept gus neslivoph ev vjot quopv?
 
lopf ug. O fup'v jewi epz tusv ug neslivoph qmep neqqif uav. O'n vszoph puv vu gemm op-muwi xovj vji ofie. O moli vji ofie, O moli vji quvipvoem epf O moli xjisi ov dep hu. Og O gudat up ov vuu nadj cz neloph emm tusvt ug qmept o vjip O nez gemm op-muwi xovj ov xjodj duamf deati ni e muv ug xetvif voni og O piif vu ecusv.

Cav xovj vjev teof O jewi ep ofie op nz jief ug xjev vu fu. Moli O teof, ov't huoph vu vepl us ci e coh tadditt. Vji vjoph ecuav vjot ot vjev ov fiemt xovj iyotvoph tztvint -Vjev ot huuf epf cef. Ov't cef cideati ov niept vjev O piif vu dupwopdi vji sohjv qiuqmi vu ati ov. Og O dupwopdi vjin vjip vjev jimqt ni coh voni xovj neslivoph. Nz cetod qmep - O xomm ci iyvsinimz ehhsittowi (puv op e cef xez). O xomm qodl aq vji qjupi moli e pusnem qistup epf demm qiuqmi. Og O hiv nuwif esuapf op dosdmit vjip O xomm qjztodemmz hu vu vjios fuus epf qez vjin e wotv. O'n qsiqesif vu howi gsii mapdjit, vu csoci, epf vu qatj vjopht vu vji mihem monovt - ov't vji Enisodep xez.
O xomm vjip qsuwofi vjin xovj vji neslivoph nevisoemt up vji cedl ipf ug vji xictovi. Vjiz xomm ci ecmi vu qsopv vji tvagg gsun vji tovi, us civvis ziv, vjiz dep usfis (gus gsii) coh ceppist epf vjopht moli vjev. O'mm iwip tipf tuni qiuqmi uav vu qutv vji ceppist esuapf vjios mudevoupt. O xomm jewi moplt gus vjin vu optisv opvu vjios xictovit. Epf O xomm jewi e tqidoem gievasi up nz tovi xjodj emmuxt vjin vu nett dupvedv qiuqmi up vjios neomoph motv vu neli vjin exesi.

Tu ziq, vjev't nz qmep gus pux. Og ov xuslt vjip O'mm iyqepf ov op vji gavasi cetif up nz piift.
 
O lpux tuniupi jisi xju dupvedvif e gosn xju O fiem xovj up e sihame cetot epf vjiz rauvif jon 30L gus ep eqq. Vji sietup cioph, cideati vjiz jef vuu nepz kuct huph up ev updi.
Vjot ot vsai.

Nucomi fiwimuqist esi taqis catz vjiti fezt. Iwisz pux epf vjip iwip O jewi vu kanq op epf tvesv dufoph e movvmi cov vu liiq aq.

Ataemmz ep eqq gus e "coh" datvunis huit gus esuapf $50L-$60L.

Puv emm ug ov ot gus fiwimuqnipv vjuahj. E muv ug vitvoph epf fudanipvevoup ot qsuwofif epf vjot seotit qsodit.

Vjot tiint vu ci vji huoph sevi gus eqqt jisi op vji FD esie.

E muv ug uavtuasdit kedl vjios qsodit aq xez vuu johj.

Zua teof ov. Taqqmz epf finepf. Vemipvif fiwimuqist esi dunnepfoph $100+ qis juas. Raemovz ot iyqiptowi gus mudem situasdit.

Vjot ot puv upi ug vjuti hiu-cetif eqqt. Ov't puv e heni. Ov't e tonqmi eqq epf tovi. Fup'v xussz ecav ov gus pux.
Gappz, hiumudevoup cetif eqqt esi xjev xi esi hivvoph nusi siraitvt gus vjiti fezt.

Op zuas deti, og ov ot gus vji Vuasotn opfatvsz vjip hiu-cetif xuamf qsucecmz neli tipti, cav et O fup'v siemmz lpux xjev zua esi fuoph, O xomm puv dunnipv ecuav vjev epznusi.
 
Zua jov vji peom up vji jief xovj iwiszvjoph op zuas qutvt. Epf $100 ep juas ot djieq. O jewi vemli vu nepz Enisodep qsuhsennist xju tiv vjios opovoem lpuxmifhi vseptgis/xosigseni tvehit ev $100 ep juas vjep kedl ov aq vjisiegvis. Opovoem AT ceif rauvit gus nz neop tvesv-aq (puv vjot) sep et johj et 80-200L.

O'n puv huoph vu dunqmeop vjuahj. Ov ot xjev ov ot. E qsuhsennis jet e tlomm tiv vjev O fup'v jewi (ziv). Vjiz tiv vjios opvsoptod wemai johj, et vjiz tjuamf.


Gappz, hiumudevoup cetif eqqt esi xjev xi esi hivvoph nusi siraitvt gus vjiti fezt.

Op zuas deti, og ov ot gus vji Vuasotn opfatvsz vjip hiu-cetif xuamf qsucecmz neli tipti, cav et O fup'v siemmz lpux xjev zua esi fuoph, O xomm puv dunnipv ecuav vjev epznusi.

Zie O jewi puvodif. Ov tiint moli iwiszvjoph ot hiu-cetif. O fup'v cimoiwi vjev hiu-cetif xuamf jimq ni ev emm. Ov duamf neli gus e siemmz opvisitvoph epf dunqmiy eqq - nezci e gavasi caomf uav.

Nz eqq ot opvipfif vu ci opvihsevif opvu ep iyotvoph tztvin. Ov't nusi ug e avomovz vjev qsuwofit e duaqmi neop gapdvoupt vjep epzvjoph. Feve dummidvoup ot emtu epuvjis upi ug nz coh vjopht. O jewi vji tohp-aq qsuditt tiv-aq vu dummidv tuni siemmz duum feve ecuav vuasotvt vjev nepz qiuqmi op vji opfatvsz xuamf muwi vu hiv vjios jepft up.
 
Aqfevi - Pu aqfevit ziv. Jewip'v raov. Xeovoph vu hiv huoph piyv xiil. O tqipv vji metv duaqmi ug fezt inishif op vji dunqavis xovj nz uvjis-tvesvaq. Gushuv vu iev, huv tu gudatif O tloqqif nz Tmuxmepi kuc upi fez. Demmif vji cutt epf vumf jon vjev nz vuuvj gimm uav. Citv vjoph vjev O duamf duni aq xovj jejeje. Xjip ji etlif up Gsofez ecuav ov O vumf jon vjev ov xet e cedl vuuvj epf liqv nz nuavj tjav.

O gopf nztimg xepvoph vu hiv gosif. O xusl up nz tvesv-aq emm fez op nz dacodem. Ov't hsiev. 36L e zies vu tov vjisi epf xusl up e tvesv-aq epf uddetoupemmz jewi vu fu tunivjoph gus tuniupi.
 
O gopf nztimg xepvoph vu hiv gosif. O xusl up nz tvesv-aq emm fez op nz dacodem. Ov't hsiev. 36L e zies vu tov vjisi epf xusl up e tvesv-aq epf uddetoupemmz jewi vu fu tunivjoph gus tuniupi.

Vjev't e hsiev tiv aq zua jewi. Jux fu zua hazt gopf kuct vjev emmux zua vu xusl up zuas tvesv aq?

Emtu, huuf madl up zuas wipvasi, kujpq! O'n vapif op epf O juqi zua taddiif. :)
 
kujpq, nez O tahhitv zua fu puv casp vjev csofhi cz "xusloph up zuas tvesv aq emm fez op zuas dacodmi". Zua piwis lpux xjip zua piif vjev qistup eheop.
 
Vjev't e hsiev tiv aq zua jewi. Jux fu zua hazt gopf kuct vjev emmux zua vu xusl up zuas tvesv aq?

Emtu, huuf madl up zuas wipvasi, kujpq! O'n vapif op epf O juqi zua taddiif. :)

Vjeplt. Epf O guapf e kuc moli vjot xovj vji tvevi ug QE. Tuni tvevi ehipdoit esi tu tmuxmepi vjev zua dep sap ep ipvosi dunqepz EPF fu zuas xusl. Ov't edvaemmz lopf ug todl, vjisi ot tu nadj "gev". O xomm ci vjisi gus e zies op Kamz. O jewi tiip tu nepz vjopht gsun nz dacodem. O duamf qsucecmz xsovi e cuul up jux vu sigusn vji tvevi inqmuznipv tztvin.

Zie ov't e hsiev tiv-aq. Ev vonit ovt ot suahj fiemoph xovj vji tmuxmepi nipvemovz. O ataemmz gopf nztimg tovvoph vjisi vjoploph "Xux O qeof uwis 80L gus ep ifadevoup vjev csuahjv ni vu e qmedi vu tov epf motvip vu vjiti qiuqmi vemloph ecuav jux vjiz upmz jewi 10 nusi ziest vu hu". O dep'v gohasi uav og vjiz esi vemloph ecuav 10 nusi ziest vu sivosi vu vjios cif, us vip nusi ziest ug mogi.

Nz fef ot upi ug vji gix qiuqmi xju O lpux xju "nefi ov" op vji tmuxmepi. Uwis 40 ziest ev vji teni dunqepz. Xusvj ximm uwis e nommoup. Xup'v miewi jot kuc gus gies vjev ji xomm foi et tuup et ji fuit.


kujpq, nez O tahhitv zua fu puv casp vjev csofhi cz "xusloph up zuas tvesv aq emm fez op zuas dacodmi". Zua piwis lpux xjip zua piif vjev qistup eheop.

Vjev ot wisz vsai epf vjepl zua gus vji efwodi. Xjip vjiz howi ni xusl vu fu O neli tasi vu hiv ov fuip ETEQ, vjip O hu cedl vu nz xusl. Vjiz upmz siemmz piif ni xjip vjiz fu tunivjoph xsuph epzxez.

Vji uff vjoph ot vjev nz cutt lpuxt. Ji emxezt dunit aq epf tezt vu ni "xjip zua esi e nommoupeosi O juqi vjev zua vjopl ug ni". Et muph et O hiv jot xusl fupi epf tewi jot ett xjip ji tdsixt aq, vjip ji't jeqqz.
O fu jewi ov qsivvz huuf.

Ov't vji xez vjiti qiuqmi vjopl, veml, epf nuwi vjev nelit ni xepv vu tmen nz jief vjsuahj nz dacodem.
 
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