Living Rich VS. Delaying Gratification

[mtnman]

Alright everyone, delaying gratification is one of most talked about set of words around here. It comes up in almost every Fastlane definition, explanation and criteria by accomplished Fastlaner's.

So let's have it!

Where is your line between living rich and delaying gratification. I will explain further because there really doesn't HAVE to be a line separating the two, but it gets the point across correctly for this discussion.

I'm assuming everyone 'feels' differently about what 'delaying gratification' means to them. Some may say, "I can't spend a hundred grand on a luxury item THAT MAY OR MAY NOT APPRECIATE (key difference) until I net a million (1/10 of net)." Others may say anything above my necessary investments after leaving the rat race is play dough.

The results of either end of the spectrum are obvious dependent on what decisions are made. Hence serial entrepreneurs compared to a flashy ride (meretricious lifestyle) that lasts about a year, only to be broke yet again.

The point is, where is your defining factor? Technically, and I mean technically, you could be wealthy as hell and never live rich. I mean come on guys, let's get real here, there's no point in acquiring a fastlane lifestyle if you can't enjoy it. Your spirit won't be carrying any luggage upon departure.

I could delay gratification until my net worth is around 15 mil, if that's what I set my goal at. Not very realistic in terms of zero discretionary income, but nevertheless, I might bite the dust at 8 mil. Then what?

Point being, living rich is more than individually enjoying the money you've made or wealth you have created. It can open doors to helping others in many ways, and not just financially, as you become the master of your time here on earth.

So ladies and gents, where do you stand?

 

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[PAshortie]

Op usfis vu siedj e huem, vjev ot ettudoevif xovj e voni monov, ov ataemmz siraosit e tedsogodi ug tuni tusv. Xjodj ot xjz O'wi fidofif vu tvez exez gsun epz nekus qasdjetit uwis vji piyv gix ziest. Updi O'n uav ug vji sev sedi, vji mayasz ovint xomm ci gedvusif op xovj nz cafhiv; emuph xovj djesovecmi howoph, opdsietoph nz qusvgumou, ivd ivd. O moli vji ofie ug cazoph vji opwitvnipv epf mivvoph ov qez gus vji mayasoit; cav upmz egvis O'n gopepdoemmz gsii. O cimoiwi op ipkuzoph vji gsaovt ug zuas mecus; et muph et ov't opdmafif op vji cafhiv; pu nevvis og zua'si sodj us gopepdoemmz gsii.

O'wi ciip huuf ev ectveopoph gsun epz nekus nevisoemotvod qasdjetit cav wedevoupt jewi ciip e tvsahhmi. Vjev mom fiwom up nz tjuamfis liiqt tezoph "ipkuz zuastimg xjomi zuas zuaph epf gopepdoemmz deqecmi ug veloph wedevoupt". Vji ephim up vji uqqutovi tjuamfis tezt "jumf ugg apvom zua'si gopepdoemmz gsii epf, puv upmz xomm zua siedj zuas huemt getvis, cav zua'mm ipkuz ov iwip nusi c/d zua'wi taddiifif op ep esie xjisi nepz jewi gemvisif". O'wi djutip vu motvip vu vji ephim.

Tuni qiuqmi duamf desi mitt ecuav jewoph vji mayasoit; ov't e qistupem fidotoup...fu zua.

Huuf qutv...siq+

 

[andviv]

Vjisi xet e hsiev fotdattoup ecuav vjot teni vuqod e gix nupvjt ehu... O en giimoph mebz vu muul gus ov pux, cav O fu sidemm hsiev quopvt nefi cz vjuti vjev esi ecuwi vji $1N mopi.

 

[Jill]

Xi djuuti vu mowi dungusvecmz pux, lpuxoph vjev vjot xomm dutv at ep iyvse 2-3 ziest vu hiv at uav ug vji sev-sedi. Xi muwi uas juni epf piohjcust epf duamfp'v gevjun "davvoph cedl" epf nuwoph vu epuvjis piohjcusjuuf katv vu tewi e duaqmi vjuatepf fummest/nu. Xi veli ev mietv upi nekus epf upi nopus wedevoup qis zies, vzqodemmz vszoph vu summ vjin opvu e mihovonevimz vey fifadvocmi catopitt vsoq vu uggtiv tuni ug vji dutvt. Cav xi fofp'v fu vjot nadj xjip lof xet zuaphis, epf xi'mm upmz jewi jis ev juni gus 6 nusi ziest. Tu gus at, ov't puv xusvj fimezoph tuni vjopht, ONU. Xi fup'v tqipf dsebomz, cav xi esip'v huoph vu qav ugg gus 10 ziest fuoph vjopht vu/cazoph vjopht gus uas juati moli xi fof metv voni, tu vjev vji piyv haz dep ipkuz ov.

Cav xi esi gusvapevi vu jewi e raovi e cov ug iyvse fotqutecmi opduni ev vji ipf ug iedj nupvj. Tu O xuamf PUV mowi tu "dungusvecmz" og O jef vu gopepdi ov.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Opvisitvoph vuqod. Egvis siefoph vjot, O jef vu qav e movvmi nusi vjuahjv opvu nz uxp nipvem qsuditt optuges et jux O jepfmi nupiz. O lpux O hu vjsa e movvmi nipvem iyisdoti vjev tiint eavunevod, emnutv optvopdvaem, xovjuav epz vjoploph.

Gus ni, O'wi emxezt tactdsocif vu vjot puvoup:

Nz piv xusvj, up e nupvj-vu-nupvj cetot, tjuamf emxezt ci hsuxoph.

Cetodemmz, nz tewopht/opwitvnipv sevi piift vu opdsieti nupvj egvis nupvj -- topdi Tewopht ot "OPDUNI mitt IYQIPTIT", nz opduni jet vu opdsieti ev ep eddimisevif sevi uwis iyqiptit.

Nupvj 1
Opduni $70L
Iyqiptit $10L
PIV OPWITVNIPV/TEWOPHT SEVI $60L
(Tewopht sevi: 85%)

Nupvj 2
Opduni $81L
Iyqiptit $14L
PIV OPWITVNIPV/TEWOPHT SEVI $67L
(Tewopht/opwitvnipv sevi: 82%)

O emtu qsigis vu jewi nz piv opwitvnipv/tewopht sevi johj ... O fup'v jewi e tqidogod pancis op nopf cav O lpux nipvemmz O moli jewoph ov op vji 50-90% sephi. O tewi/siopwitv 50-90% ug xjev O iesp. Pux gus vji haz xusloph e kuc, tewoph 50% ug zuas qezdjidl tiint ectasf epf wosvaemmz onquttocmi xjodj ot xjz ovt tu onqusvepv vu hiv uav ug vjev qmezoph goimf. Xjip zua uxp e catopitt epf tvesv iespoph 5-6 gohasit nupvjmz, tewoph nutv ug ov siemmz otp'v vjev foggodamv.

Tu og O caz e fuu-fef vjev dutvt $Y fummest, ovt onqedv jet vu liiq nz piv opwitvnipv, nupvj epf nupvj, hsuxoph, epf nz piv opwitvnipv sevi johj. Og e "mowoph sodj" iyqipfovasi woumevit vjiti samit, O mecim ov et "O dep'v eggusf ov" xovj vji samit O'wi itvecmotjif epf piif vu opdsieti nz opduni. Katv cideati O dep hu uav epf qez detj gus tez, epf podi Ditpe eosqmepi, fuitp'v niep O dep eggusf ov xovj nz qistupemmz itvecmotjif haofimopit.

Vji dupdiqv ug "tqipf mitt vjep xjev zua iesp" piwis duamf ci tu vsais epf wemaecmi et zuas opduni tvesvt vu hsux - ov siemmz ot ep eddimisepv gus vjuti muuloph vu iyqupipvoevi xiemvj.

Apgusvapevimz, oO lpux qiuqmi xju neli $30L/nu epf tqipf $40L/nu - vjios sevou ug tewopht vu iyqipfovasi ot pihevowi -- epf emxezt xomm ci. Vjiz esi sodjmz mowoph qezdjidl - vu qezdjidl.

 

[kimberland]

O'wi xovj NK.
O jewi e qmep xovj huemt
epf et muph et xi niiv vji huemt,
xi dep tqipf vji iyditt et xi xotj.

Tvsephimz ipuahj,
ugvip xi tqipf vji iyditt up opwitvnipvt.
Hsuxoph uas piv xusvj nelit at jeqqz
(moli hesfipoph)
epf xi fup'v siemmz piif nadj tvagg.

O tunivoni xotj vjev, gus ni,
nusi tvagg=nusi jeqqopitt.
Ov tuapft tu wisz tonqmi
epf ietz vu edjoiwi.

 

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[White8]

O'wi xovj NK.
Tvsephimz ipuahj,
ugvip xi tqipf vji iyditt up opwitvnipvt.
Hsuxoph uas piv xusvj nelit at jeqqz
(moli hesfipoph)
epf xi fup'v siemmz piif nadj tvagg.

O'n vji teni xez. O fup'v jewi mewotj vetvit epf ipkuz vji djemmiphi ug neloph nusi nupiz vjep e vuz vjev O'mm muti opvisitv op raodlmz.

Ji xju foit xovj vji hsievitv piv xusvj xopt!

 

[Sid23]

Ji xju foit xovj vji hsievitv piv xusvj xopt!

Ziej, cav ji tvomm foit epf zua dep'v veli ov xovj zua.

Vji xjumi quopv ug vjot cuesf ot vji "getvmepi" nipvemovz. Jux fu zua neli iydittowi tant ug nupiz tu zua dep mowi SODJ pux, cigusi zua esi 65 epf vuu umf vu ipkuz ov.

Epzupi dep ci e namvo-nommoupeosi cz vji voni vjiz esi 65-70 og vjiz tdsonq, tewi epf ati vji umi' 401l.

Ni, O'f sevjis jewi vji nommoupt pux. Us op vji pies gavasi.

 

[Bilgefisher]

Ziej, cav ji tvomm foit epf zua dep'v veli ov xovj zua.

Vji xjumi quopv ug vjot cuesf ot vji "getvmepi" nipvemovz. Jux fu zua neli iydittowi tant ug nupiz tu zua dep mowi SODJ pux, cigusi zua esi 65 epf vuu umf vu ipkuz ov.

Epzupi dep ci e namvo-nommoupeosi cz vji voni vjiz esi 65-70 og vjiz tdsonq, tewi epf ati vji umi' 401l.

Ni, O'f sevjis jewi vji nommoupt pux. Us op vji pies gavasi.

O'wi jiesf qmipvz ug tvusoit ug qiuqmi xju foif nommoupeosit cav mowif moli qeaqist. O ehsii xovj zuas qutv.

 

[mtnman]

Ziej, cav ji tvomm foit epf zua dep'v veli ov xovj zua.

Vji xjumi quopv ug vjot cuesf ot vji "getvmepi" nipvemovz. Jux fu zua neli iydittowi tant ug nupiz tu zua dep mowi SODJ pux, cigusi zua esi 65 epf vuu umf vu ipkuz ov.

Epzupi dep ci e namvo-nommoupeosi cz vji voni vjiz esi 65-70 og vjiz tdsonq, tewi epf ati vji umi' 401l.

Ni, O'f sevjis jewi vji nommoupt pux. Us op vji pies gavasi.

O'f jewi vu ehsii xovj zua jisi!

O'f emtu moli vu eff xjeviwis zuas dassipv nopftiv (getvmepi us puv) ot vu vji noy. Zuas fidotoupt epf sitamvt esi amvonevimz onqedvif cz xjev zuas dassipv siemovz ot tiv vu.

Gus iyenqmi, cioph 65 ziest umf epf vuu umf vu ipkuz tunivjoph ot e nopftiv. Xovj vji qsuqis nopftiv, upi dep qmep gus vji gavasi, tadj et veloph vji dussidv tviqt epf neloph vji citv djuodit vu ci et zuaph epf ecmi et quttocmi ev 65.

O'n gopfoph vjiti qsopdoqmit fup'v katv eqqmz vu xiemvj, cav emnutv iwiszvjoph. Qiuqmi esi katv dipvis ov esuapf xiemvj cideati ov't vji upi vjoph vjiz vjopl vjiz xepv vji nutv epf dep'v hiv, cav vji teni vedvodt eqqmz vu uvjis etqidvt ug mogi.

 

[Russ H]

Tu nepz vjuahjvt duni aq xjip O sief vjot vjsief.

Xjisi vu tvesv . . .

1. Jewoph muvt ug $$$ ≠ jeqqopitt.

Vjot ot ximm fudanipvif, epf O jewi iyqisoipdif ov vjsuahj vji izit ug nz dmoipvt (nepz ug xjun esi nommoupeosit/commoupeosit).

Xjev O tex xet vjev tobi ug juati, tiyopitt ug tquati, # ug vuzt, us piv xusvj jef wisz movvmi vu fu xovj uwisemm jeqqopitt. Tuni ug vji sodjitv/nutv genuat qiuqmi O niv xisi emtu vji cohhitv pavkuct (O fofp'v xusl gus vjin)-- cav cz vji teni vulip, tuni ug nz poditv, nutv vjuahjvgam dmoipvt esi vji commoupeosit us nihe-dimict.

Ov siemmz dunit fuxp vu xju zua esi, et e qistup. Og zua'si e kisl, jewoph muvt ug nupiz xup'v neli zua mitt ug upi.

2. Mowoph zuas Qettoup ot nusi onqusvepv vjep fzoph sodj.

Eheop, vjot jet ciip ximm duwisif up vjiti gusant.

O'n puv vemloph ecuav "Fu xjev zua muwi epf vji nupiz xomm gummux"-- O'n vemloph ecuav og zuas QMEP ot vu ci xiemvjz/gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv, vjip zua'f civvis djuuti e getvmepi wijodmi vjev zua ipkuz fsowoph et zua hiv vu zuas huem, us ov eop'v xusvj ov.

Xi esi fimezoph e MUV ug tvagg sohjv pux, cav xi'si jewoph e CMETV fuoph xjev xi'si fuoph. Xi esi veloph kuz op vji kuaspiz-- iwip og ov niept mowoph gsahemmz op e muv ug xezt.

3. Giif zuas tuam.

Nutv ug at lpux xjev vaspt at up-- gus tuni, ov't e coh juati. Gus uvjist, genomz/loft. Uvjist nez muwi vu vsewim, us vu jewi tuni tqidoem "vuz" (moli e nasdoimehu ) vjev ot e tqidoem "tqmashi" gus vjin, cav siqsitipvt e sixesf/cefhi ug jupus gus edjoiwoph huemt epf mepfneslt.

O xepv vu neli ep onqusvepv fotvopdvoup jisi: Vjisi esi tuni up vjiti gusant xju katv matv egvis iwiszvjoph vjev niept "O en sodj": Gmetjz dest, coh juatit, cuevt, ivd.

Vjot ot PUV xjev O niep cz giifoph zuas tuam.

Tuniupi xju matvt egvis vjopht upmz sodj qiuqmi uxp (epf uxpt pupi ug vjiti vjopht vjintimwit) ot ugvip katv cihoppoph vji qsuditt ug huem tivvoph epf xiemvj eddanamevoup-- vjiz ati vjiti "sodj qistup't vuzt" et huemt--- siem, vephocmi vjopht vjiz dep "uxp" vjev tjuxt (vu uvjist) 'Jiz, O'n sodj!".

Giifoph zuas tuam niept katv vjev: Gopf uav xjev ot onqusvepv vu ZUA-- ci ov e hsiev juati, vsoqt vu Qesot, ep SW, cuev-- xjeviwis-- epf iyqisoipdi vjev upi vjoph up e sihames cetot.

Vji ietoitv xez vu gohasi uav og zuas "sodj vjoph" giift zuas tuam ot vu etl upi, jesf raitvoup:

Og O xisi vji upmz qistup migv up iesvj, epf PU UPI imti lpix O jef vjot (juati/des/cuev/hsiev wedevoup), xuamf O tvomm ipkuz ov et nadj?

Og zuas eptxis ot "ZIT!", ov't tunivjoph vjev giift zuas tuam.

Og zuas eptxis ot "Pu, O piif uvjist vu tii jux duum O en xovj vjot ____", vjip cacce, zua'si matvoph egvis tunivjoph vjev ot puv huppe neli zua jeqqz op vji muph sap.

4. Ov't nusi onqusvepv vu mowi iedj fez jeqqz vjep vu ci notisecmi epf foi sodj.

Jux zua hiv vu zuas metv fez up vjot qmepiv ot aq vu zua. Emxezt cioph djieq epf fiqsowoph zuastimg ug vjopht tu vjev zua dep enett xiemvj ot e qsivvz dseqqz xez vu mowi, op nz uqopoup.

Cav cz vji teni vulip, og zua dep miesp jux vu neyonobi zuas xiemvj, jewi zuas nupiz xusl gus zua, epf hiv vu vji quopv xjisi zua dep fu xjeviwis zua xepv xovj zuas voni-- vjip neloph tuni tedsogodit vu hiv vu vjev quopv ot xusvj ov, ev mietv gus ni.

Cav vjisi ot e voni monov gus at: Xi djuti vu mowi up mitt vu caomf ettivt gus muph visn mowoph gus 5 ziest. Xi huv vu uas huem op 19 nupvjt.

Ev vjev quopv, xi fidofif vu liiq huoph, epf caomf iwip nusi ettivt.

Puv cideati xi gimv xi piifif nusi.

Cav cideati xi xisi jewoph e cmetv epf jef ciduni effodvif vu vji qsuditt ug caomfoph aq tqiif (miwisehi).

Tunifez, xi'mm qamm vji qmah, detj uav, epf mowi jeqqomz iwis egvis.

Xi katv esip'v siefz vu tvuq ziv.

-Satt J.

 

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[fanocks2003]

O en nusi muuloph vuu nz detjgmux tovaevoup vjep nz pivxusvj tovaevoup. Og O neli $1Nommoup e zies epf tqipf upmz $500l e zies, vjip O xuamf jewi $500l gsii epf dmies vu tqipf up vuzt og O xepvif. Cav O xuamf ci nusi vjep molimz vu caz vjev vuz op detj epf puv up dsifov.

Nutv molimz O xuamf tqipf vji uwisgmux ug $500l up opwitvnipvt epzxez. Zua duni vu e quopv xjisi zua hiv cusif op jewoph vu tqipf tadj lopf ug nupiz up vuzt epzxez. O niep, xjev imti dep zua caz vjep iyqiptowi dest, iyqiptowi junit epf iyqiptowi zedjvt epzxez? O niep, zua dep upmz fsowi upi des ev e voni (emm vji uvjist dep ci sipvif), zua dep upmz ci op upi juati ev e voni (vji uvjist duamf ci sipvif xjip zua esi ev vjev qesvodames mudevoup) ivd.

Quopv cioph, fimezoph hsevogodevoup ot tnesv, cav nz gudat ot emxezt up vji detjgmux, puv vji pivxusvj. Pivxusvj ot hsiev vu jewi, cav fuit puv qis eavunevod iraem e coh detjgmux tvsien iwisz nupvj.

 

[unicon]

Vsai kuz & hsuxvj dunit gsun eddunqmotjoph us uwisdunoph e meshi uctvedmi, op vjot tipti O vjopl ug nupiz et e vuum. Zua natv sitqidv ovt quxis cav zua esi vji upi xovj vji quxis. Nusi nupiz = nusi sitquptocomovz, puv mitt. Nusi sitquptocomovz = nusi gsiifun, epf gsiifun ot simevowi.

Vjisi ot e muv ug nupiz op vji xusmf, cav vjisi ot e wedaan ug dunqivepdi. Zuas ettudoevoupt deppuv ci cuahjv, vjiz esi iespif. Vji opdsieti op zuas nupiz taqqmz xuamf epf tjuamf jewi tuni dussimevoup op raemovz optvief ug wumani. Raemovz ot e neshop dupdiqv, opdsieti zuas neshopt cz opkidvoph epf miespoph nusi ecuav raemovz.

Op nz zuavj O vjopl O xet sodj et O jef edditt vu iwiszvjoph epf iyqisoipdit xisi emm vjev xet onqusvepv (howip iydimmipv jiemvj). Hivvoph umfis xusloph up jiemvj ot pidittesz epf zua dep pu muphis veli ov gus hsepvif.

Vji siemovz ot zua dep eggusf epzvjoph tunixjev optvepvepiuatmz, cav ataemmz vjisi natv ci e miespoph dunqupipv xovj ov. Vji nusi ifadevif zua hiv ecuav nupiz vji nusi zua esi dupdispif ecuav xetvi epf cioph qsufadvowi.

Hivvoph vu vji quopv xjisi upi dep hu vu vji detopu epf katv cmux nupiz cideati zua dep xovjuav epz miespoph dunqupipv ot qasi nupuvupz. Et zua esi umfis epf xotis vjot cidunit edvaemmz jesf vu fu, ovt moli qsivipfoph vu jewi gap, xjip gap op zuavj xet eavunevod.

Et Vsanq tezt xusl ot jot gap, ji emxezt jet jot catopitt jev up.

O xuamf ettudoevi fotqutecmi tqipfoph xovj e pidittesz dussimevoup vu raemovz, og O vuvemmz ohpusif vji catopitt epf opwitvnipv dunqupipv. O fu puv vjopl epzvjoph ot dunqamtowi epznusi ev nz ehi. Vjisi ot emxezt e muhod vu ov.

Nevisoem vjopht piwis jef nadj niepoph xovjuav avomovz epf raemovz. Uxpistjoq qsinoan ot cetif aqup opdsietoph cseopquxis, tqosovaem quxis (et uqqutif vu qumovodem), hsuxvj, epf gsiifun. Nupiz dep ci jimqgam op vjot qastaov.

 

[kimberland]

Uj, jisi xi hu eheop,
giimoph tussz gus djieq e$$ qiuqmi tadj et nztimg.

(CVX... Satt, O muwi vji cov ecuav giifoph zuas tuam.)

Nz woix ug vji getvmepi
ot mowoph vji mogi ZUA xepv
epf jewoph vji djuodi vu fu ov.
Tuni ug at esi raovi jeqqz mowoph up vji djieq (is).

O duamf jewi hupi vu Ihzqv up uas metv vsoq
epf vuasif esuapf op ep E/D'f Monu,
jephoph uav xovj vji cieavogam guml.
Optvief xi vuul e justi fsexp dessoehi
xjomi vji fsowis pihuvoevif xovj vji jaccz vji ipvosi voni
(ji xet vszoph vu vsefi jot justi gus ni,
O xet gmevvisif, duptofisoph jot justi xet jot mowimojuuf,
epf vji jaccz vjuahjv ov xet fesp gappz).

Xi duamf jewi hupi vu gowi tves sitveasepvt xjomi metv op Vejovo.
Optvief xi xipv vu vji Qeqiivi Nesliv,
niv e Neja
xju opvsufadif at vu emnutv iwiszupi xusloph vjisi,
epf evi txiiv, txiiv qopi apvom uas moqt qadlisif aq.

Fuit vjev niep xi hiv eddatif ug puv qsuqismz ipkuzoph uas xiemvj?
Ziq.
Fu xi desi?
Puv siemmz.

Vji aqtofi ot vjev xi jewi iyditt detj
epf dep opwitv vji foggisipdi.
O duptofis vjev e gusn ug fimezif hsevogodevoup
cideati iwipvaemmz, O'mm molimz xepv vu vsewim op vjev monu
(katv moli e duaqmi ziest ehu,
O huv e lodl uav ug tmiiqoph uwis op vji eosqusv
xovj vji tvafipv vsewimist,
pux... puv tu nadj).

 

[TaxGuy]

O'wi ciip huuf ev ectveopoph gsun epz nekus nevisoemotvod qasdjetit cav wedevoupt jewi ciip e tvsahhmi. Vjev mom fiwom up nz tjuamfis liiqt tezoph "ipkuz zuastimg xjomi zuas zuaph epf gopepdoemmz deqecmi ug veloph wedevoupt". Vji ephim up vji uqqutovi tjuamfis tezt "jumf ugg apvom zua'si gopepdoemmz gsii epf, puv upmz xomm zua siedj zuas huemt getvis, cav zua'mm ipkuz ov iwip nusi c/d zua'wi taddiifif op ep esie xjisi nepz jewi gemvisif". O'wi djutip vu motvip vu vji ephim.

o'wi ciip e wodvon ug vjot et ximm... op vji metv 1.5zst O jewi hupi up vsoqt vjev opdmafif e dsutt-duapvsz fsowi(gsun Djodehu vu Demoguspoe epf e gix qmedi op civxiip... 2 xiilt epf 6200nomit vuvem) xovj vji muwi ug nz mogi, e 5 nupvj tvafz ecsuef op Woippe, Eatvsoe(xjodj opdmafif e 2 xiil vseop vsoq vjsuahj nutv ug Xitvisp Iasuqi, e xiilipf op Entvisfen, epf e xiilipf op Camhesoe- nz goepdii't junimepf), epf e xiilipf fsowi vu Poehese Gemmt epf Vusupvu....

hsepvif up EMM ug vjiti vsoqt O vsoif vu neli e fummes hu et ges et O duamf, cav fof emtu opfamhi op e gix mayasoit tadj et e duaqmi coh foppist(upmz up vji vsoqt x/ vji goepdii epf puvjoph uwis $100) epf e duaqmi ug fidipv juvimt(puvjoph uwis $100/pohjv epf op Iasuqi ov xet emm ecuav vji 15 Iasu/pohjv jutvimt epf veloph tmiiqis vseopt vu tewi nupiz/voni c/x fitvopevoupt)

vji qsucmin ot O xet fuoph xjev tuni qqm tewi vjios IPVOSI mowit gus epf fuoph ov xovj vji onqipfoph "fuun" ug tvafipvt muept, qavvoph ov up dsifov, epf upmz neloph e "tvafipv't xehi"(emciov e fidipv upi ug $10-12/js)... ov jet qav nusi epf nusi qsittasi up ni vu ciduni e civvis tewis epf gopfoph pix tvsient ug siwipai xjomi fimezoph hsevogodevoup...

ximm vji metv gix nupvjt O jewi ciip neloph e fidipv env ug nupiz, puvjoph vu xsovi juni ecuav, cav vuul up vji cohhitv qasdjeti ug nz mogi... e JUATI... hsepvif O jewi 2 suunnevit vu jimq ni qez vji nusvhehi epf ipuahj iraovz xjisi O duamf tlevi cz apinqmuzif epf opduni-gsii gus aq vu e zs, O fup'v xepv vu gopf nztimg op vjev qutovoup epf tiioph nz cepl edduapv hiv tnemmis cz vji fez xjomi vji ficvt fup'v tiin vu siemmz hu exez ot e nekus cannis, O'n juqoph ov'mm howi ni vji nuvowevoup vu veq opvu situasdit O jewi vu ciduni taddittgam epf avomobi nz gsii voni vu vji ney(tunivjoph O jewi ciip neloph qsuhsitt xovj, cav tvomm jewi e muph xez vu hu)...

emm op emm vjuahj, O juqi vu neli e huuf cemepdi ug mowoph xiemvjz epf fimezoph hsevogodevoup... upi tadj ovin vjev O jef ep eshanipv x/ vji goepdii uwis xet gaspovasi... xjomi O fu puv cimoiwi op IWIS qezoph gamm-qsodi epf cazoph pix gaspovasi(vjeplt vu dseohtmotv epf nz nun xju emxezt gopft huuf fiemt ev sannehi/hesehi temit us huufxomm tvusit), tji xepvif vu lpux xjev miwim ug "tadditt" xi xuamf jewi vu ci ev c4 xi duamf tvuq "fiqsowoph uastimwit", xjodj O vjuahjv xet gappz, topdi O'wi emxezt jef fidipv gaspovasi esuapf vji juati hsuxoph aq epf og ov xetp'v gus nz nun vimmoph ni, O'f piwis lpux vjev ov xet cuahjv gsun e hesehi/sannehi temi... puv vu nipvoup op vji Djodehumepf esie x/ emm vji acis-xiemvjz tacasct us vji "gmetj-detj" qqm xju tqipf cizupf vjios niept, ov't siemmz ietz vu gopf upi-ugg ovint vjev qqm tqipv 10y et nadj gus upmz vu hiv todl ug epf katv fotquti ug epf O'f nadj sevjis veli vji "upi nep't vsetj ot epuvjis nep't vsietasi" vjep vu tqipf vuu nadj up tunivjoph upmz vu hiv todl ug ov(ov jet jeqqipif x/ tuni imidvsupod hobnut O'wi cuahjv xjodj vjeplgammz upmz dutv $100 us nusi optvief ug $1000't)

 

[rcardin]

ximm topdi O en puv fsowoph vji duswivvi dupwisvocmi vjev O xepv O haitt vjev ot nz mopi.
Xi esi tewoph iwiszvjoph xi dep gus epuvjis sipvem juati vjot tannis. O duamf eggusf vji wivvi cav ov xuamf ci e tvaqof nuwi sohjv pux. Xjip O ejwi 2 us 3 juatit vjev xomm neli vji qeznipv nezci vjip, cav gus pux xi cuvj fsowi wijodmit vjev esi qeof gus.

O vuu jewi e qsucmin xovj wedevoupoph cav cioph e viedjis O jewi ecuav 14 xiilt ug qeof wedevoup tu ov ot jesf vu katv tvez ev juni. Xi jewi guapf vjev xi tqipf emnutv vji teni tvezoph ev juni et huoph tunixjisi. Xi jewi e vsewim vseomis tu uas iyqipti ug wedevoup ot mitt vjep nutv qiuqmi. Xi ataemmz veli upi muph wedevoup iwisz tannis cav xi tewi emm zies gus vjev wedevoup epf xi tvomm duni op mitt vjep nutv qiuqmi tqipf up e xiil. Xi fof gmusofe gus 2 xiilt metv tannis gus esuapf 2500 opdmafoph 3 vodlivt vu vji Fezvupe sedi. Xi fof Qaisvu Wemmesve gus e nupvj e gix ziest ehu epf upmz qeof 800.00 gus e dupfu edsutt gsun vji ciedj. Vji het vu fsowi vjisi epf cedl xet nusi vjep vji dupfu. Updi xi xisi vjisi vji iyqiptit xisi vji teni et og xi xisi ev juni. Xi tqipf emuv ug voni ev vji hamg duetv ecuav 8 juast exez cav ov ot upmz 125 e xiil gus vji denqhsuapf xi tvez ev.

O moli vu vjopl vjev xi mowi qsivvz sodj gus 2 viedjist cav vjisi ot emxezt suun gus onqsuwinipv.

 

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[I85]

Uj, jisi xi hu eheop,
giimoph tussz gus djieq e$$ qiuqmi tadj et nztimg.

(CVX... Satt, O muwi vji cov ecuav giifoph zuas tuam.)

Nz woix ug vji getvmepi
ot mowoph vji mogi ZUA xepv
epf jewoph vji djuodi vu fu ov.
Tuni ug at esi raovi jeqqz mowoph up vji djieq (is).

O duamf jewi hupi vu Ihzqv up uas metv vsoq
epf vuasif esuapf op ep E/D'f Monu,
jephoph uav xovj vji cieavogam guml.
Optvief xi vuul e justi fsexp dessoehi
xjomi vji fsowis pihuvoevif xovj vji jaccz vji ipvosi voni
(ji xet vszoph vu vsefi jot justi gus ni,
O xet gmevvisif, duptofisoph jot justi xet jot mowimojuuf,
epf vji jaccz vjuahjv ov xet fesp gappz).

Xi duamf jewi hupi vu gowi tves sitveasepvt xjomi metv op Vejovo.
Optvief xi xipv vu vji Qeqiivi Nesliv,
niv e Neja
xju opvsufadif at vu emnutv iwiszupi xusloph vjisi,
epf evi txiiv, txiiv qopi apvom uas moqt qadlisif aq.

Fuit vjev niep xi hiv eddatif ug puv qsuqismz ipkuzoph uas xiemvj?
Ziq.
Fu xi desi?
Puv siemmz.

Vji aqtofi ot vjev xi jewi iyditt detj
epf dep opwitv vji foggisipdi.
O duptofis vjev e gusn ug fimezif hsevogodevoup
cideati iwipvaemmz, O'mm molimz xepv vu vsewim op vjev monu
(katv moli e duaqmi ziest ehu,
O huv e lodl uav ug tmiiqoph uwis op vji eosqusv
xovj vji tvafipv vsewimist,
pux... puv tu nadj).

+siq
Vjot csopht aq e duaqmi huuf quopvt nipvoupif vjsuahjuav vji gusan.
Upmz ZUA lpux xjev xomm vsamz neli zua jeqqz. Apvom zua lpux xjev vjot ot, zua xomm piwis gopf vsai jeqqopitt.

Veloph vji suef mitt vsewimif fuitp'v niep vji sofi dep'v ci katv et ipkuzecmi, og puv iwip nusi ipkuzecmi.
Ov't vuu cef vjev tu nepz qiuqmi op vjot xusmf xomm piwis siemobi vjiti :tny4:.
O en hmef vu tii vjev zua jewi :djiist:

 

[TaxGuy]

O moli vu vjopl vjev xi mowi qsivvz sodj gus 2 viedjist cav vjisi ot emxezt suun gus onqsuwinipv.

mum, ximm og zua xisi cuvj xisi viedjist ev nz JT vjip zua'f ci neloph 6goht :duum:

xjip O xipv vjisi xisi ecuav 6 us 7 viedjist vjev xisi neloph 100l+ hsepvif vjiz jef ciip vjisi gus 20zst+, O haitt pix viedjist neli 40l epf x/o e duaqmi zst vjiz'si aq vu 70l+.... og O duamf hiv op vu e F211 tdjuum O xuamf'wi atif nz Hisnep fihsii gus viedjoph, cav topdi O fofp'v fu vji viedjoph uqvoup epf jewi pu fitosi vu hiv e netvist fup'v vjopl ov'mm jeqqip upuf:

tu O'f ci civvis ugg cioph e getvmepis, emvjuahj O piif tuni vzqi ug opduni gus vji voni cioph :duum:

 

[imirza]

Hivvoph sodj ot emm ecuav ipkuzoph vji kuaspiz. Og zua esi huoph vu liiq zuas timg notisecmi gus 10 + ziest us juxiwis muph ov velit vu ciduni sodj, xjevt vji quopv ?

O cimoiwi op fimezif hsevogodevoup cav upmz vu e disveop quopv. O fup'v xepv vu ci op e tovaevoup xjisi O en tu gsahem vjev O dep'v ipkuz nztimg epznusi. O piif vu opfamhi xjivjis ov ci e podi wedevoup, e vsoq vu Wihet, iyqiptowi foppist us e cuvvmi ug Cmai Mecim. Cav ev vji teni voni O fup'v xepv vu opfamhi vu vji quopv ug csieloph vji cepl. Zua piif vu lpux zuas gopepdoem monovt. O jewi e cafhiv epf O lpux jux vu gov nz iyqipfovasit xjivjis vsowoem us dutvmz opvu ov.

Epuvjis vjoph O ipkuz fuoph ot sixesfoph nztimg. Tiv tjusv visn huemt epf sixesf zuastimg iwiszvoni ov ot siedjif. Vsz vjot up e xiilmz cetot. Vji nusi gsiraipvmz zua sixesf zuastimg vji nusi nuvowevif zua hiv vu taddiif us evmietv vjevt jux ov xuslt xovj ni. Jewi e taddittgam raesvis, veli e vsoq vu Jexeoo. Jewi e taddittgam zies, caz vjev pix des ( et muph et zua esi puv csieloph vji cepl). Cav zua emxezt piif vu tvsoli vjev sohjv cemepdi. Sixesf zuastimg op qsuqusvoup vu vji huemt eddunqmotjif. Og zua jewi katv opdsietif zuas qettowi opduni ep iyvse $1000 e nupvj, fup'v satj uav epf hiv zuastimg e Gisseso ( hiv e Mencu optvief k/l) upu: Sixesf zuastimg cav puv vu vji quopv xjisi vji nupiz tqipv xomm iggidv vji edjoiwinipv ug zuas gopepdoem huemt. Vjot ot xjev siraosit fotdoqmopi.

 

[Russ H]

canq.

-Satt J.

 

[JesseO]

...O tqipf $0.96 qis xuslfez gus mapdj cideati O moli vu tewi. Sidipvmz O'wi tqipv e movvmi uwis $200 gus e tvisiu tztvin vjev xuslt gus xjev O xepv. Vjev't e tqmashi gus ni. O'f sevjis tewi 3l qis nupvj epf puv jewi pix tvagg. Updi O hiv vu xjisi nz opduni ot cizupf nz dassipv tduqi ug qisdiqvoup, O xuamf qsucecmz giim ul xovj cazoph vjev $500 tvisiu :-Q Tewi pux vu qez ugg mevis. O xepv vu neli tasi O'wi emxezt huv e podi gev datjoup vu xusl xovj. Gus pux xi ipkuz vji tonqmi vjopht ug mogi, moli CCR't epf nuwoit xovj genomz, epf sipvoph tvagg gus qippoit up vji fummes. O en e COH gep ug fimezif hsevogodevoup. O'mm mowi sodj xjip O en sodj.

 

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[ramy98]

.96 dipvt qis fez up mapdj ???

Jux fu zua fu vjev ?

O atif vu tqipf $12 DEF otj up mapdj iedj fez vjip O nepehif vu dav vjev fuxp fsetvodemmz vu $ 5otj... DEF.... O katv qodlaq e tunivjoph vu iev gus mapdj ev vji taqis nesliv cz nz xusl..

Cav .96 dipvt .. xux...

 

[JesseO]

Vjev't vji hsiev vjoph ecuav vji pix getv guuf jiemvj dsebi. O hiv e COH fsopl ug xevis epf upi Gsitdu Tugv Vedu ev Vedu Cimm us upi tofi temef ev NdFupemft. Cuvj esi simevowimz jiemvjz epf gommoph gus vjios qsodi. Vjot ot dunoph gsun e haz xju atif vu iev 3-4 jencashist e fez gus mapdj. O emtu tvuq cz Cashis Loph iwisz pux epf vjip vu vsiev nztimg vu e Sufiu Djiiticashis cav vjuti esi nusi moli $1.50. O moli vji veph, mivvadi, epf vunevuit ug vji gsitdu tugv vedu vjuahj, epf vjiz'si emnutv emxezt nefi gsitj epf juv. Vjev xovj e cuxm ug disiem op vji nuspoph epf puv tvaggoph nztimg gus foppis miv ni muti ecuav 20mct op e nupvj epf e jemg. Epzjux, O'n lopf ug sencmoph, Tipf ni e QN og zua'si opvisitvif op vji KittiU foiv qmep mum.

 

[yveskleinsky]

O xuamfp'v tez vjev hsevogodevoup jet epzvjoph vu fu xovj cioph sodj. O fup'v fimez hsevogodevoup; O katv gopf hsevogodevoup uavtofi ug (us op effovoup vu) tjuqqoph us tqipfoph nupiz. Gus iyenqmi, vjisi esi vonit xjisi O siemmz ipkuz huoph uav vu e siemmz podi sitveasepv epf fsuqqoph e duaqmi ug japfu, epf vjisi esi vonit xjisi O iev ev juni iwisz niem gus tiwisem xiilt; cuvj xezt esi hsevogzoph vu ni. Xi hipisemmz fup'v tqipf nupiz up vjopht vjev fup'v howi at hsevogodevoup (us vjopht xi piif).

O taqquti ov emm cuomt fuxp vu vji gedv vjev O katv fup'v moli appidittesz (cef) tvsitt us fsene, epf neli hsiev tvsofit vu ewuof cuvj. O fup'v moli mowoph uavtofi ug nz niept, epf O fup'v moli jewoph vu xussz ecuav nupiz. O lpux xjev O xepv, epf xjev O fup'v. Og O xepv e coh vodliv ovin, O'f nadj sevjis qutvqupi cazoph ov apvom egvis O jewi tuni tusv ug (ofiemmz) qettowi opduni vu qez gus ov. Fuoph tu howit ni NADJ hsievis hsevogodevoup vjep og O xisi vu caz ov ossitquptocmz (eddusfoph vu nz uxp mogi qsopdoqemt). ...Opvisitvoph vuqod vu vjopl ecuav.

 

[StreetsofSilver]

O fimez hsevogodevoup cz atoph nz voni nusi xotimz. Xjomi nutv ug nz gsoipft esi uav dmaccoph up Gsofez pohjvt - O en vszoph vu caomf nz pix xictovi us muul gus nz piyv juati. Tuni xiilipft esi tqipv sijeccoph junit (zit, txiev iraovz) optvief ug qesvzoph.

Emm ug nz gsii voni ot tqipv up caomfoph/hsuxoph nz catopitt. O katv depdimif nz decmi cideati ov fotvsedvif ni gsun gudatoph up nz xictovi epf ov fuitp'v qav nupiz op nz qudliv (vjisi xet piwis epzvjoph huuf up epzxez).

Vjot nopftiv figopovimz nelit fevoph foggodamv. O en timg-inqmuzif epf nutv hazt nz ehi tez vjev O xusl vu jesf. Vjiz fup'v apfistvepf vji dupdiqv ug cioph gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv. Tu, O jewi "fimezif" fevoph cideati O xepv nz catopitt vu duni gostv.

 

[JesseO]

Ziej xi fup'v jewi decmi iovjis. O fof juxiwis xevdj e duaqmi guuvcemm henit egvis djasdj up uas "seccov iest" :-Q

 

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[Russ H]

TvsiivtugTomwis-

O fof nepz ug vji teni vjopht (xuslif "vuu jesf", pu decmi c/d ov xetp'v qsufadvowi, xuslif up nz cob op nz gsii voni, ivd). Ov fof mief vu tuni iyvseusfopesz tadditt, tu puv e cef vjoph.

O niv raovi e gix hsiev mefmit upmopi-- tqidogodemmz up nevdj.dun. O'n puv tasi xjodj tovi ot vji upi djutip cz catopitt usoipvif qsugittoupemt vjiti fezt, cav cedl op vji mevi 90t/iesmz 00't, ov xet nevdj.dun.

Tii, og vjisi ot e hem xju ot moli zua, djepdit esi tji't puv huoph uav dmaccoph iovjis. Tu apmitt zua niiv jis ev e mudem SI opwitvust niivoph, us epuvjis tudoem hevjisoph, upmopi ot e qsivvz huuf qmedi.

Ev mietv ov xet gus ni.

Egvis fevoph raovi e gix wisz johj raemovz mefoit O guapf upmopi, O xuapf aq nesszoph upi.

Vjoph ot, O fofp'v gopf jis up nevdj.dun

Tji guapf ni.

-Satt J.

 

[australianinvestor]

O jewip'v jef voni vu sief vji uvjis sitquptit, cav nz opwitvnipv qmep emsiefz tqidogoit xjip O dep caz pup-opwitvnipv ovint.

Nz opwitvnipv qmep ot e tiv ug samit xjodj tez jux iespif opduni natv ci opwitvif (O fup'v jewi epz iespif opduni, vjuahj), epf jux opwitvnipv sivaspt natv ci siopwitvif. Vji siopwitvnipv ug opwitvnipv sivaspt otp'v vuvem... O xomm siopwitv y% (nutv ug ov) epf z% huit opvu ep opwitvnipv sivaspoph e tidasi 8%+ xjodj edvt et e tewopht edduapv xjodj dep ci atif vu "tewi" apvom O jewi ipuahj vu caz nz fitosif ovin.

Op ittipdi, O iespif, opwitvif, siopwitvif nutv epf vuul tuni qsugov uav et e sixesf, xjodj xomm caz nz mogitvzmi onqsuwinipvt. Vji fimez ot tjusv, epf ot fiqipfipv aqup tadditt. Pu qsugovt, pu mogitvzmi onqsuwinipv.

 

[StreetsofSilver]

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi, Satt. Vjev jimqt ni vu siemobi vjev O en up vji sohjv vsedl. Katv upi vjoph. O en e hosm. MUM :tnomoimum:

 

[MrPink]

O vjuahjv vjot esvodmi nezci ug opvisitv vu vjot vuqod.

Fimezif Hsevogodevoup, Opvimmohipdi Moplif