Living below your means is hard

[MJ DeMarco]

I loved all of this except the die with zero thing. Not a fan of that book, but understand its appeal to some.

I don't agree with all of it, however I totally understand the point of inflection where it starts to make more sense to spend more than you save/earn. What's the point of amassing a decent eight-figure net worth if you're going to live a thousandaire lifestyle? And please don't mention that F*ckstick Warren Buffett and his modest house and car.

 

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[Kak]

And please don't mention that F*ckstick Warren Buffett and his modest house and car.

Hahaha I would never for these purposes.

 

[MTF]

If you meet someone that is living a "useless life" based on your descriptions and they claim they are happy/fulfilled relaxing with their family all day on the beach (or surfing or video gaming or whatever else).

How would you fit that contradiction into your ideology? Would you just conclude they are lying about what they do or about their happiness?

I met some people like that: surfers, climbers, freedivers, sailors. And they're actually some of the coolest people to know. They often have way more drive for life than your standard "grind hard" gurus.

They may not do much that's generally considered productive but they still want to get better at something, even if it's just their "useless" passion. So even seemingly lethargic people aren't really doing nothing. They're still exploring what they're capable of, even if not in a standard quantifiable way.

 

[Antifragile]

I met some people like that: surfers, climbers, freedivers, sailors. And they're actually some of the coolest people to know. They often have way more drive for life than your standard "grind hard" gurus.

They may not do much that's generally considered productive but they still want to get better at something, even if it's just their "useless" passion. So even seemingly lethargic people aren't really doing nothing. They're still exploring what they're capable of, even if not in a standard quantifiable way.

If they make your life better through friendship and inspiration… by definition they aren’t useless, or lethargic.

 

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[Boy Muhammad]

Living below your means is a prime example of the slowlane

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Living below your means is a prime example of the slowlane

Not really, live below your means, but your focus should be to EXPAND your means.

If you earn $1M a year, you can still live within your means, yet, still live like a king.

Unfortunately in today's culture, live within your means means, "do nothing, drive nothing, and buy nothing-- and you'll be happy."

 

[Kak]

I met some people like that: surfers, climbers, freedivers, sailors. And they're actually some of the coolest people to know. They often have way more drive for life than your standard "grind hard" gurus.

They may not do much that's generally considered productive but they still want to get better at something, even if it's just their "useless" passion. So even seemingly lethargic people aren't really doing nothing. They're still exploring what they're capable of, even if not in a standard quantifiable way.

Absolutely! Emotional profits are still profits as far as I’m concerned.

 

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[rymf]

I bet if you made more money you would have bought a 3 series. So ask yourself why? Why wouldn't you buy a 1 if you were making 3x your current salary?

I see this mentality all the time. I don't understand it. I had a friend visit me in Vegas recently from out of town who is not currently working. We went to a bunch of tourist places and she bought a bunch of souvenirs. I just don't understand how someone can spend $35 on a t-shirt, $10 on a mug and $15 on a random knickknack when they aren't working. The excuse is "But I'm on vacation.". "I want something to remember this trip by."

I’m actually looking forward buying a 3 series haha

Thank you all for your meaningful thoughts, I’ve learned some things and I hope others have learned something too.

 

[starttoday123]

Yes, it’s tough and takes the discipline of looking at the truth of our spending habits regularly