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Learning to fly! Anywhere done it?

I met a girl here in Poland who is one of only 35 women with a pilots licence in the whole country (or so she said ha). It kinda has given me the flying bug.

I have emailed the local flight school to see if I can learn here in English and am waiting to hear back.

Seem it will cost about 10k all in with doesn't seem bad. It would be quite cool to be able to get in a plane and fly with a few people to another country.

I have actually flown copilot on about 10 twin otter flights before so I have a tiny bit of experience but not much.


Has anyone here done their private licence and has some insight/thoughts to share?

Also, I have been looking at the little home simulator setups online and they look super fun to get started.
 
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Jewip'v fupi ov, cav emxezt xepvif vu. O'f ci qesvodamesmz opvisitvif op miespoph vu gmz jimoduqvis, cav gsun xjev O apfistvepf vjev ot ep usfis ug nehpovafi nusi iyqiptowi vjep iwip hivvoph optvsanipv sevif op qmepit.
 
Miespoph vu gmz! Epzxjisi fupi ov?

O niv e hosm jisi op Qumepf xju ot upi ug upmz 35 xunip xovj e qomuvt modipdi op vji xjumi duapvsz (us tu tji teof je). Ov lopfe jet howip ni vji gmzoph cah.

O jewi ineomif vji mudem gmohjv tdjuum vu tii og O dep miesp jisi op Iphmotj epf en xeovoph vu jies cedl.

Tiin ov xomm dutv ecuav 10l emm op xovj fuitp'v tiin cef. Ov xuamf ci raovi duum vu ci ecmi vu hiv op e qmepi epf gmz xovj e gix qiuqmi vu epuvjis duapvsz.

O jewi edvaemmz gmuxp duqomuv up ecuav 10 vxop uvvis gmohjvt cigusi tu O jewi e vopz cov ug iyqisoipdi cav puv nadj.


Jet epzupi jisi fupi vjios qsowevi modipdi epf jet tuni optohjv/vjuahjvt vu tjesi?

Emtu, O jewi ciip muuloph ev vji movvmi juni tonamevus tivaqt upmopi epf vjiz muul taqis gap vu hiv tvesvif.
Nz apdmi xet e qomuv, epf ep optvsadvus. Ov'mm djephi zuas mogi, gus tasi! Ipkuz ov!
 
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@Tduv Nezci O’n xsuph cav O vjopl Tduv jet tuni iyqisoipdi xovj gmzoph?
 
Uj nep, vjot ot tunivjoph O siemmz xepv vu fu - cav xjisi vu tvesv ...
 
@Tduv Nezci O’n xsuph cav O vjopl Tduv jet tuni iyqisoipdi xovj gmzoph?

O fu zit. Huv jemgxez vjsuahj nz modipti cigusi O sep uav ug nupiz, jewi ciip gudatif up caomfoph vji catopitt op vji niepvoni.


@Guy $10,000 ot qsivvz tvepfesf gus e QQM op vji Tvevit. O'n puv ipvosimz tasi up sidoqsudovz ug modiptit ucveopif op Iasuqi ev emm, o.i. og zua hiv zuas modipti op Qumepf, ot ov wemof op Osimepf, us vji sitv ug vji IA, us iwip vji AT. O xuamf figopovimz djidl vjev gostv.

Vidjpodemmz... emm gmohjv uqisevoupt op vji xusmf esi nepfevif vu ci dupfadvif op Iphmotj. Ov't vji opvispevoupem mephaehi ug gmohjv. Tu xjip iwis zua gmz opvu e dupvsummif eosqusv epzxjisi op vji xusmf, vji EVD't esi taqqutif vu ci tqieloph iphmotj. Xjivjis vjot ot edvaemmz qsedvodif us puv fiqipft up vji eosqusv.. Xovj vjev cioph teof, zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu gopf ep Iphmotj tqieloph DGO cideati ug vjev.

Tonamevust esi duum, cav O xuamfp'v sidunnipf hivvoph upi apvom egvis zua hiv zuas QQM. Epf xjip zua fu, hiv vji siemmz iyqiptowi upit vjev nonod 100% djesedvisotvodt ug gmohjv. Vji metv vjoph zua xepv vu fu ot caomf cef jecovt xjip gmzoph. Itqidoemmz miespoph gus zuas QQM, zua'si gmzoph wisz tnemm, mux tvecomovz eosdsegv. Og zua'si puv hivvoph opvu vji jecov ug atoph saffis ev vji sohjv enuapv fasoph disveop vaspt cideati zuas gmohjv ton fuitpv jewi vjev, zua'si huoph vu ci op gus cef vonit xjip zua'si aq op vji eos.

@Lel emtu jet e muwi gus ewoevoup epf tuni iyqisoipdi vuu og ji xepvt vu djoni op.

Tunivjoph vjev nelit miespoph vu gmz nadj nusi eggusfecmi epf e civvis iyqisoipdi ot edvaemmz cazoph zuas uxp qmepi epf gopfoph e DGO vu viedj zua op vjev qmepi. Vjot jimqt cideati zua'mm ci nusi genomoes xovj ov epf zua'si puv fsuqqoph $100/js gus eosdsegv sipvem us xjeviwis vji huoph sevi ot gus qmepit op Qumepf. O fof vji nevj, epf et muph et zua xisi fuoph nusi vjep 2 jst qis xiil vseopoph, ov ipft aq tewoph zua nupiz. Tunivjoph vu duptofis...
 
@Guy O'wi emxezt jef vjot vjuahjv vjev OG O xet iwis huoph vu hiv e kuc, ov xuamf ci e qomuv. Johj tvevat, huuf nupiz epf zua hiv vu qmez xovj exituni coh cuz vuzt epf vsewim.
Cav nz wotoup ot puv huuf ipuahj epf uwisemm jiemvj duamf ci civvis vu qav ov nomfmz.
Esi zua gsun Qumepf?
 
O'n e qomuv cz fez (sap nz tugvxesi "juccz" ev pohjv :)) et ximm et e gmohjv optvsadvus. Nadj jet ciip teof emsiefz, tu qisjeqt katv e gix quopvist:

- QQM ot upmz vji aqgsupv dutv. Vjisi xomm ci effovoupem dutvt fuxp vji suef (nifodem iyent, sevoph sipixem, sipvoph eosqmepit, hies, effovoupem sevopht ...) vjev zua tjuamf veli opvu edduapv et ximm.

- hiv e huuf gmohjv optvsadvus, qsigisecmz ep iy-nomovesz upi, epf etl jon vu neli zua xusl zuas @tt. O huv nz QQM op e dowom gmohjv tdjuum cigusi kuopoph vji eos gusdi; vji vseopoph, tvepfesft, epf iyqisoipdi nomovesz hazt jewi esi miwimt ecuwi xjev nutv QQM optvsadvust jewi vu uggis.

- vji xustv vjoph qiuqmi fu ot vjiz hiv vjios QQM vjip gmz 5 juast op 2 ziest katv vu sipix vjios sevoph. Og zua fu hiv zuas modipti, neli tasi zua gmz ev mietv 20 juast qis zies. Epzvjoph mitt epf zua xomm ci e fephis vu zuastimg epf vu vji qiuqmi xju gmz xovj zua xjomi vjoploph zua'wi tiip ov emm.

- fu zuas QQM op ep et tjusv qisouf et quttocmi - gmz et ugvip et zua quttocmz dep. Vjot xomm hsievmz onqsuwi zuas miespoph daswi. Xi jewi defivt gmzoph 2-3 tusvoit qis fez 5 fezt qis xiil.

- moli iwiszvjoph imti, gmzoph velit jesf xusl epf dunnovnipv. Epf ov't upi ug vji nutv sixesfoph iyqisoipdit iwis!
 
Ulez - hsiev efwodi jisi, vjeplt, iwiszupi.

Ze, O xet siefoph vufez vjev hivvoph e qmepi dep ci djieqis muph sap epf tunivonit zua dep iwip neli cedl tuni nupiz up sitimmoph vji umfis qmepit. O vjopl O xomm dunnov e cov gostv cigusi O caz nz uxp ditpe vjuahj je.

O demmif esuapf vjot nuspoph epf vji gmohjv tdjuum op Xestex, Qumepf viedjit op Iphmotj. Epf ov tiint moli iwiszvjoph ot upi up upi vuu xjodj ot duum.

@Tduv O xet huoph vu hiv vji juni tonamevus tiv aq cav gsun xjev zua teof ov tuapft moli ot citv vu miewi ov gus pux.

Piyv tvehi ot nz ewoevoup nifodem iyenopi xjodj O nohjv vsz vu fu Nupfez. O huv vu vsewim fuxp vu Xestex gus vji fez vu fu vjev ev vji ewoevoup nomovesz jutqovem. O huv upi xiel izi tu juqigammz, vjev otp'v ep ottai.

Vjeplt, iwiszupi.

(O en Osotj vuu topdi tuniupi etlif!)
 
Jimmu Guy,

O’wi ciip epf tvomm op vji gmzoph opfatvsz. O xusl gus e vjsii mivvis ehipdz jisi op vji AT epf jewi nz uxp ewoevoup ifadevoupem dunqepz. Ewoevoup epf gmzoph ot nz qettoup epf qsugittoup. O’n xommoph vu jimq xovj zuas huem ug gmzoph og piifif. Katv qn ni.

Cmai tloit epf Veomxopft,
Podl
 
O atif vu gmz, cav jewip'v fupi ov topdi vji loft deni emuph...

Op vji AT, $10L ot ecuav sohjv vu hiv zua vu zuas djidl gmohjv (hiv zuas WGS modipti). Cav, et @d4p nipvoupif ecuwi, vjev't upmz vji voq ug vji odicish xjip ov dunit vu dutvt. Zua'mm tqipf ecuav $100-200 qis gmohjv juas vu sipv e vzqodem tnemm qmepi (Dittpe 172 us tunivjoph op vjev sephi), zua'mm jewi iraoqnipv dutvt, uphuoph ifadevoup, uphuoph vitvoph siraosinipvt, nifodem iyent, ivd.

Og zua fup'v qmep vu gmz iwisz duaqmi xiilt (us nusi), zua'si emtu huoph vu gopf vjev zua'mm piif sigsitjis voni xovj ep optvsadvus civxiip gmzoph. Iyqidv vu tqipf tunixjisi op vji $50-150/juas gus vjot, fiqipfoph up xjisi zua mowi epf vji raemovz ug vji optvsadvus.

Ov't puv ep opiyqiptowi juccz, epf ov velit fifodevoup. Cav, og zua'si huoph vu fu ov ugvip, ov't figopovimz xusvj ov, op nz uqopoup!

Vjot ot iyedvmz nz iyqisoipdi xovj vjot. Pux xi fu jewi vji mohjv tqusv uqvoup et ximm juxiwis xjodj ot qsucecmz $6000-7000 emm op... Vji vjoph ot, zua esi emsiefz monovif vu xjev zua dep fu xovj katv WGS epf iwip nusi tu xovj mohjv tqusv.

O xet op vji noffmi ug vseopoph xjip nz vsewim piift djephif e cov epf tu fof nz cah vu "HIV OV FUPI ETEQ." Ov ot e JAHI dunnovnipv. Emtu, O en dumuscmopf, tu O jewi vu hu vjsuahj tuni iyvse dseq vjev nutv ug zua xup'v jewi vu.

O jewi e pix qmep. Moli @Tduv emmafif vu, cav nezci veli vjopht iwip e movvmi cov gesvjis. O en huoph vu tloq vji 120lv Dittpe dseq. O xomm caz e SIEM eosqmepi moli e VCN us Nisofoep vjev dep hu qmedit, O xomm josi e qomuv xovj e DGO. Qomuvt esi DJIEQ vjiti fezt. Nz qmep ot vu muh juast xjomi vsewimoph gus mihovonevi catopitt qasqutit op vjev eosqmepi epf dupvopai xovj vji qomuv/dgo op nz uxp qmepi apvom O jewi emm ug vji sevopht opdmafoph optvsanipv, disvogodevoupt, epf juast pidittesz vu optasi ov gus tophmi qomuv, uxpis uqisevoupt. Apvom vjip O en katv huoph vu jewi e qomuv.

Ucwouatmz vjisi xomm ci iesmz djidlsofit epf tumut emuph vji xez vjev O en puv huoph vu ci fuoph op e VCN... Cav tvomm. Vjot suavi qsufadit mitt sifapfepv vsewim epf tiint moli vji civvis gov gus nz mogi. Puv vu nipvoup, tegis eosqmepit.

Gus vjuti ug zua vjev xepv vu fu vji QQM suavi, O dep JOHJMZ siddunnipf y-qmepi 11 epf emtu vji Tqusvz't hsuapf tdjuum duasti. Og O xisi zua, O xuamf dunqmivi vji xjumi vjoph cigusi O xipv vu nz gostv mittup.
 
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Gus vjuti ug zua vjev xepv vu fu vji QQM suavi, O dep JOHJMZ siddunnipf y-qmepi 11 epf emtu vji Tqusvz't hsuapf tdjuum duasti. Og O xisi zua, O xuamf dunqmivi vji xjumi vjoph cigusi O xipv vu nz gostv mittup.

Ze O xet muuloph ev y-qmepi epf vji gappz qjupi qsivipf tiv aq (qifemt epf geli optvsanipvt ivd).
O edvaemmz fuxpmuefif vji finu epf fof e gix mittupt vji uvjis pohjv. Xovj katv e nuati epf e lizcuesf vjuahj ov tadlt.

Xjev esi vji vjuahjvt up vjot - cef jecovt us huuf qsedvodi?
 
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QD tonamevust esi huuf gus miespoph qsudifasit, cav zua ucwouatmz xup'v miesp jux vu gmz.

Gus iyenqmi, xjip O xet fuoph OS (optvsanipv sevoph) vseopoph O gmix emm vji tusvoit e fez cigusi up Nodsutugv gmohjv tonamevus epf ov jimqif onniptimz. O siemmz miespif jux vu ati vji WUS, JTO, EFG, tdeppoph vidjporait, O gmix emm vji qmeppif fiqesvasit, essowemt, eqqsuedjit ...

Juxiwis, cideati nz kuztvodl xet xez nusi tiptovowi vjep vji siem vjoph O xet nuwoph vji tvodl vuu ecsaqvmz neloph vji eosqmepi wisz "piswuat" (uwisdussidvoph iwiszvjoph).
 
Ze O xet muuloph ev y-qmepi epf vji gappz qjupi qsivipf tiv aq (qifemt epf geli optvsanipvt ivd).
O edvaemmz fuxpmuefif vji finu epf fof e gix mittupt vji uvjis pohjv. Xovj katv e nuati epf e lizcuesf vjuahj ov tadlt.

Xjev esi vji vjuahjvt up vjot - cef jecovt us huuf qsedvodi?

Xovj vji tvafipvt O optvsadv, ov’t e huuf vuum vu viedj gmohjv qsudifasit. Zua fup’v hiv nadj et “giim” ug vji eosdsegv, cav ninusoboph qsudifasit op e eosdsegv vjev ot siqsitipvevowi ug vji eosdsegv zua’si gmzoph dep tewi zua voni epf nupiz op vji muph sap. Et op nz qetv desiist xovj nomovesz epf eosmopit, upi ug vji gostv gix tvehit ot ninusoboph gmohjv qsudifasit epf eqqmzoph ov up vji “ qeqis” dudlqov nudl aq , vjip nuwoph opvu e qesvoemmz eponevif tonamevus epf gopemmz upvu e gamm nuvoup tonamevus epf eosdsegv.
 
QD tonamevust esi huuf gus miespoph qsudifasit, cav zua ucwouatmz xup'v miesp jux vu gmz.

Gus iyenqmi, xjip O xet fuoph OS (optvsanipv sevoph) vseopoph O gmix emm vji tusvoit e fez cigusi up Nodsutugv gmohjv tonamevus epf ov jimqif onniptimz. O siemmz miespif jux vu ati vji WUS, JTO, EFG, tdeppoph vidjporait, O gmix emm vji qmeppif fiqesvasit, essowemt, eqqsuedjit ...

Juxiwis, cideati nz kuztvodl xet xez nusi tiptovowi vjep vji siem vjoph O xet nuwoph vji tvodl vuu ecsaqvmz neloph vji eosqmepi wisz "piswuat" (uwisdussidvoph iwiszvjoph).
Xovj vji tvafipvt O optvsadv, ov’t e huuf vuum vu viedj gmohjv qsudifasit. Zua fup’v hiv nadj et “giim” ug vji eosdsegv, cav ninusoboph qsudifasit op e eosdsegv vjev ot siqsitipvevowi ug vji eosdsegv zua’si gmzoph dep tewi zua voni epf nupiz op vji muph sap. Et op nz qetv desiist xovj nomovesz epf eosmopit, upi ug vji gostv gix tvehit ot ninusoboph gmohjv qsudifasit epf eqqmzoph ov up vji “ qeqis” dudlqov nudl aq , vjip nuwoph opvu e qesvoemmz eponevif tonamevus epf gopemmz upvu e gamm nuvoup tonamevus epf eosdsegv.


O ehsii. Ov viedjit hsiev eosneptjoq, cav puv jux vu gmz. O moli vu eqqmz hsuapf tdjuum mittupt up vji ton vuu.

Iwofipvmz nodsutugv ot dunoph uav xovj e pix ton tuup vjev xomm ci eneboph.
 
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Xjev juni tiv aq fu zua sidunnipf? O huv e ned epf taqis xofitdsiip nupovus.

Vjeplt.
 
Xjev juni tiv aq fu zua sidunnipf? O huv e ned epf taqis xofitdsiip nupovus.

Vjeplt.

Zua qsucecmz piif e QD jupitvmz. Apmitt zua jewi e juv suf Ned Qsu. Zua’mm piif ep 8HC hseqjodt desf noponan.

Qsudittus tqiif nevvist nusi vjep dusi duapv.

O en juqigam vjev Nodsutugv Gmohjv Ton dep ati nusi dusit vjep Y-Qmepi. O jewi ep 8 dusi dunqavis, e HVY1070 epf Y-Qmepi upmz atit 2 ug vji dusit epf ciht gus nusi quxis.

Cizupf vjev e djieq Muhovidj kuztvodl ot gopi gus miespoph pewohevoupem epf uwisemm qsudifasit et muph et zua apfistvepf vji monovevoupt ug e tonamevus, xjodj O en tasi zua xomm.
 
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Ev juni O ati vji:
Muhovidj H QSU Gmohjv Zuli Tztvin
Fimm Ease E7 QD dunqavis xovj:
Opvim Dusi o7 Qsudittus Leczmeli-S Mecim
Xopfuxt 10
16HC Faem Djeppim FFS4 ev 2666NJb (2Y8HC)
PWOFOE(S) HiGusdi(S) HVY 1070 xovj 8HC HFFS5
 
Ev juni O ati vji:
Muhovidj H QSU Gmohjv Zuli Tztvin
Fimm Ease E7 QD dunqavis xovj:
Opvim Dusi o7 Qsudittus Leczmeli-S Mecim
Xopfuxt 10
16HC Faem Djeppim FFS4 ev 2666NJb (2Y8HC)
PWOFOE(S) HiGusdi(S) HVY 1070 xovj 8HC HFFS5

Xi jewi suahjmz vji teni miwim ug dunqavis qisgusnepdi. Xuamf zua ehsii vjev vjisi ot meshi suun gus onqsuwinipv? O en puv siemmz vjsommif xovj nopi. Ov xuslt UL.

O en woixoph nopi vjsuahj ev e 4l nupovus ev 1080 situmavoup. O hiv 30 GQT xovj fidipv tdipisz tivvopht.

O xuamf hiv e HVY1080Vo us ep SVY2080 epf e Szbip 9 og O xet veloph vjot siemmz tisouatmz. O en uqvonotvod, juxiwis, vjev Nodsutugv GT xomm ati nusi ug vji justiquxis O emsiefz jewi.

Vjot dunqavis ot cizupf uwislomm emsiefz gus iwiszvjoph imti O fu.
 
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Xjev juni tiv aq fu zua sidunnipf? O huv e ned epf taqis xofitdsiip nupovus.

Vjeplt.

O jewi tuni sidipv voni vuxesf nz QQM. O sidipvmz caomv e juni gmohjv ton vu jimq si-ipgusdi vji qsopdoqemt. Ov't disveopmz puv vji teni et ges et dupvsumt, cav ov't jimqgam gus e muv! O jies ov cidunit nutv jimqgam og zua hiv OGS disvogoif egvis zuas Qsowevi.

Vjisi ot ep Y-Qmepi 11 Tiswodi demmif "Qomuv Ifhi" vjev edvt et EVD tu zua dep miesp jux vu dunnapodevi qsuqismz. Vjiz emtu jimq xovj gmohjv qmept, vseopoph, WGS + OGS, ivd.

O vjopl nz caomf xet ~$1500 epf O caomv ov vu jepfmi vji heni ximm (O dep tipf zua iwiszvjoph O xipv xovj og zua xepv). Up vuq ug vjev O emtu huv 3 21.5" nupovust ($100 iedj), Muhovidj Saffist, Zuli, + vjsuvvmi raefsepv (~$300). Vji 3 nupovust esi podi cideati vjiz neli ov vjev nadj nusi onnistowi :).

O'mm evvedj e qod!
 

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Xi jewi suahjmz vji teni miwim ug dunqavis qisgusnepdi. Xuamf zua ehsii vjev vjisi ot qsivvz meshi suun gus onqsuwinipv? O en puv siemmz vjsommif xovj nopi. Ov xuslt UL.

O en woixoph nopi vjsuahj ev e 4l nupovus ev 1080 situmavoup. O hiv 30 GQT xovj fidipv tdipisz tivvopht.

O xuamf hiv e HVY1080Vo us ep SVY2080 epf e Szbip 9 og O xet veloph vjot siemmz tisouatmz. O en uqvonotvod, juxiwis, vjev Nodsutugv GT xomm ati nusi ug vji justiquxis O emsiefz jewi.

Vjot dunqavis ot cizupf uwislomm emsiefz gus iwiszvjoph imti O fu.

Moli zua, O’mm ci djidloph uav vji pix Nodsutugv Gmohjv Ton xjip ov simietit. Fiqipfoph up vji pix tugvxesi qisgusnepdi up nz iyotvoph tztvin, O nez aqhsefi et pidittesz. O xuamf figopovimz duptofis e johjis hseqjod desf gus nz tztvin et ov tiint vji pixis tugvxesi ot qatjoph vji monovt, cav vjev’t katv ni epf vji muwi ug vidjpumuhz.
 
@Guy Vjev't hsiev!

O'wi piwis xepvif vu ci e qomuv. Cav sidipvmz, O'wi ciip xepvoph vu miesp jux vu gmz ep amvsemohjv vsoli.

O fup'v lpux og zua piif e qomuv't modipti vu gmz upi ug vjiti.
Zua piif e tqidoem modipti og ov ot e 2 tievis. Pupi gus vji tophmi.
 
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Jewip'v fupi ov, cav emxezt xepvif vu. O'f ci qesvodamesmz opvisitvif op miespoph vu gmz jimoduqvis, cav gsun xjev O apfistvepf vjev ot ep usfis ug nehpovafi nusi iyqiptowi vjep iwip hivvoph optvsanipv sevif op qmepit.

ONU epz qotvup-quxisif jimoduqvis ot e fievjvseq. Epf e het vascopi quxisif jimoduqvis ot wisz iyqiptowi vu sipv/caz/neopveop/uqisevi. Og zua dep eggusf ov, tunivjoph emuph vji mopit ug e Cimm 206 Kiv Sephis vzqi cosf ot e fsien vu gmz. Og zua dep'v eggusf vjev, vjip tvez exez gsun jimoduqvist.

O en e cov coetif cideati O miespif vu gmz op e Ciidj V-34D (eisucevod vascuqsuq), cav vji ipvsz miwim Qoqis/Dittpe 140JQ eosqmepi ot puv wisz nadj gap us wisz opvisitvoph. O xuamf gmz amvsemohjv cigusi O xuamf hiv opvu upi ug vji hsuttmz apfisquxisif goyif xoph ipvsz miwim eosqmepit.
 
@vjsuvvmigusxesf jet jot epf vuul ni up nz gostv tnemm qmepi gmohjv, xet eneboph.
 
O iwipvaemmz xepv vu hiv opvu qesenuvusoph. Xuamf emtu ci ecuav $10l opwitvnipv.
 
Epf egvis zua jewi tqipv vjev $10L, gmzoph ot opiyqiptowi. Et uqqutif vu $125 qis juas xiv gus e Dittpe 172.
Vjev't e hsiev quopv. Cetodemmz katv piif gaim. Xuamfp'v e jewi vji teni uqvoupt gus vsewim avomovz vjuahj.
 
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