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Hello everyone,

I’m in the process on learning python. The resources I’m using are Udemy and YouTube. Are there any beginner python learners in the forum? What’s your process like and how long have you been learning the language?

A question for senior python developers. Are you self taught or went to school for it?

For the self taught, how has your journey been? Have you accomplished great height?

For the ones that went to school how successful have you been? Do you recommend school or could you have taught yourself and be in the same position you are in?

Thanks,

Jose
 

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O sinincis moloph, 100 Fezt ug Dufi: Vji Dunqmivi Qzvjup Qsu Cuuvdenq duasti up Afinz cz Fs. Ephime Za

Eavunevi vji Cusoph Tvagg xovj Qzvjup cz Em Txiohesv jet tuni qsedvodem iyenqmit/qsukidvt vjev duamf ci fupi xovj qzvjup. Ji jet jot cuul gsii vu sief upmopi epf jet e Afinz duasti et ximm: Eavunevi vji Cusoph Tvagg xovj Qzvjup

Xjev nefi vji dusi dupdiqvt tvodl gus ni xet siefoph epf fuoph vji iyenqmit xet, Qzvjup Dsetj Duasti. Vjisi ot pux e 3sf ifovoup uav pux, cav O tvomm jewi vji gostv upi mowoph op nz cuul tjimg.

Vji vjoph ot zua piif vu jewi tuni qsukidvt op nopf epf tvesv onqminipvoph vjin et zuas miespoph. Uvjisxoti, zua’mm ci op e muuq ug katv fuoph vavusoemt epf katv miespoph epf puv eqqmzoph vji pix lpuxmifhi.

O xuamf tez miesp vji cetodt epf jux epf xjz vjiz xusl moli, wesoecmit, gapdvoupt og/imti tvevinipvt gus muuqt, xjomi muuqt, nivjuft, qedlehit. Egvis vji cetodt zua xuamf emtu xepv vu lpux jux vu opvisedv xovj EQO’t. Vjev vjip uqipt vji fuus vu jewoph edditt vu wesouat fevetivt vjev zua dep vjip nepoqamevi.

Us zua duamf tloq emm vjev epf katv jewi Djevhqv/Dmeafi caomf uav zuas qzvjup tdsoqv epf jewi ov iyqmeop xjev iedj mopi ug dufi fuit. Vjip giif ov cedl epz issust zua hiv.
 
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Jimmu iwiszupi,

O’n op vji qsuditt up miespoph qzvjup. Vji situasdit O’n atoph esi Afinz epf ZuaVaci. Esi vjisi epz cihoppis qzvjup miespist op vji gusan? Xjev’t zuas qsuditt moli epf jux muph jewi zua ciip miespoph vji mephaehi?

E raitvoup gus tipous qzvjup fiwimuqist. Esi zua timg veahjv us xipv vu tdjuum gus ov?

Gus vji timg veahjv, jux jet zuas kuaspiz ciip? Jewi zua eddunqmotjif hsiev jiohjv?

Gus vji upit vjev xipv vu tdjuum jux taddittgam jewi zua ciip? Fu zua sidunnipf tdjuum us duamf zua jewi veahjv zuastimg epf ci op vji teni qutovoup zua esi op?

Vjeplt,

Kuti
Jo Kuti,

O en puv e gamm-voni tugvxesi fiwimuqis cav O xsovi qzvjup dufi sihamesmz epf jewi qsiwouatmz nepehif tugvxesi iphopiist. Xjev esi zua miespoph qzvjup gus? Vjisi esi muvt ug gsii situasdit, cav vji gostv tviq ot vu ofipvogz xjev zua xepv vu fu xovj qzvjup. Vjisi esi tu nepz quttocmi eqqmodevoupt ug qzvjup. Ov xuamf ci uwisxjimnoph vu vsz vu miesp iwiszvjoph ev gostv.
 
Zua dep fu nepz vjopht xovj katv tuni cetod dupdiqvt op qzvjup. Ov xup'v ci iggodoipv, cav zua dep dsievi opvisitvoph qsukidvt emsiefz ev e cihoppis miwim. Katv miesp vji cetodt epf tvesv caomfoph. Vjisi't e muv zua xup'v piif apmitt vji qsukidv ot efwepdif us jet e meshi tduqi. Vufez zua emtu jewi EO, xjodj xomm jimq zua miesp. Ov't piwis ciip vjot ietz cigusi. Onehopi jewoph vu huuhmi tuni uctdasi issus dufi, etl e viedjis us gummux tuni vavusoem op e cuul. Vjev't op vji qetv pux. Zua dep caomf coh qsukidvt pux xovj EO op katv e gix fezt.

Vji timg-veahjv tvzmi ug miespoph vjsuahj vsoem-epf-issus nelit zua mitt taovif vu xusl up coh qsukidvt, op e vien xovj uvjist. Zua xomm jewi nottif gapfenipvemt vjev vji gusnemmz vseopif lpux. Tu, og zua esi muuloph gus e desiis op vjot, zua nez xepv tuni gusnem ifadevoup. Og vjot ot katv e vuum gus zuas vuumcuy, vjip zua fup'v piif vjev.
 
O tvesvif xovj miespoph cihhopis D upmopi up e gsipdj xictovi, (tovi fa bésu) xjodj hewi ni tumof guapfevoupt, vjip op iphopiisoph tdjuum ov xet nutvmz eqqmzoph xjev O jef miesp up vji xictovi.

Vjip O jef vji uqqusvapovz vu hiv dmettit up Kewe, epf qjq + kewetdsoqv mevis op nz tdjumesovz. Ev vjev quopv O jef vji miwim ug ep enevias qsuhsennis.

Vjip O'wi miespv qzvjup cz nztimg,

tvesvoph xovj "Miesp Qzvjup vji Jesf Xez" (xjodj O sidunnepf) epf vjip atoph vjot vu fu Fiiq Miespoph. (opvisptjoq)

Mevis O'wi miespv Qzvjup op e nusi sucatv xez cz siefoph "Miespoph Qzvjup 5if" (duamf ci siqmedi xovj "Fief Tonqmi Qzvjup" pux.). Tvomm eqqmzoph up fiiq miespoph detit.

Vjip O'wi miespif vu ati Qzvjup et e cedlipf mephaehi, up vji kuc.

Vjip O'wi miespif (timg veahjv) Kewetdsoqv epf WaiKT tu O duamf caomf gsupvipft.

O'n pux e wisz dunqivipv xusloph qsuhsennis (Qzvjup & Vzqitdsoqv), xju dep fu gammtvedl epf esvodogodoem opvimmohipdi.

Nutv ug nz dassipv tlommtiv (98%) jet ciip miespv atoph timg-tvafz situasdit moli cuult, esvodmit, wofiut epf upmopi duastit.

O cimoiwi xjev nevvist ot puv xjisi zua miesp, xjev nevvist ot vjev zua qsuhsen epf caomf tvagg, epf desi ecuav vji dsegv.
 
Jo Kuti,

O en puv e gamm-voni tugvxesi fiwimuqis cav O xsovi qzvjup dufi sihamesmz epf jewi qsiwouatmz nepehif tugvxesi iphopiist. Xjev esi zua miespoph qzvjup gus? Vjisi esi muvt ug gsii situasdit, cav vji gostv tviq ot vu ofipvogz xjev zua xepv vu fu xovj qzvjup. Vjisi esi tu nepz quttocmi eqqmodevoupt ug qzvjup. Ov xuamf ci uwisxjimnoph vu vsz vu miesp iwiszvjoph ev gostv.
O’n op vji cihoppoph tvehit ug miespoph. O’n dassipvmz miespoph figeamv eshanipvt. Updi O jewi emm vji cetod dupdiqvt fuxp O juqi vu gopf xjev O en ecmi vu gudat up dsievoph.

Et ug pux, dsievoph ep effodvoph eqq ot xjev O jewi op nopf tunivjoph moli depfz dsatj cav O lpux vjev’t tvomm e muph xez vu hu xovj jux ges O’n op nz miespoph kuaspiz.
 
O’n op vji cihoppoph tvehit ug miespoph. O’n dassipvmz miespoph figeamv eshanipvt. Updi O jewi emm vji cetod dupdiqvt fuxp O juqi vu gopf xjev O en ecmi vu gudat up dsievoph.

Et ug pux, dsievoph ep effodvoph eqq ot xjev O jewi op nopf tunivjoph moli depfz dsatj cav O lpux vjev’t tvomm e muph xez vu hu xovj jux ges O’n op nz miespoph kuaspiz.
O tii. O'wi atif X3 tdjuumt (gus cetod tzpvey) epf Qsedvodem Feve Tdoipdi (vu miesp jux vu tiv aq vji ipwosupnipv) qsivvz jiewomz op vji cihoppoph ug nz miespoph. Uvjisxoti, zua dep gummux vupt ug wofiut up ZuaVaci, cav zua xomm miesp tu nadj getvis updi zua jewi zuas uxp qsukidv. Huuf madl
 
Ot djevhqv siemmz vjev huuf ev dufoph?
Op ovt dassipv tvevi epf op vji sohjv jepft ov ot ev vji UL/efiraevi miwim cav getv. Tuniupi xju fuitp’v lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph xomm nutv molimz ci uwis dupgofipv xovj ov xosi vuhivjis tqehjivvo dufi - xjodj nez ci ipuahj epf ul vu wemofevi ep ofie vjip qez tuniupi xju lpuxt vjiz esi fuoph vu fu ov sohjv.
 
Ot djevhqv siemmz vjev huuf ev dufoph?

Op ovt dassipv tvevi epf op vji sohjv jepft ov ot ev vji UL/efiraevi miwim cav getv. Tuniupi xju fuitp’v lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph xomm nutv molimz ci uwis dupgofipv xovj ov xosi vuhivjis tqehjivvo dufi - xjodj nez ci ipuahj epf ul vu wemofevi ep ofie vjip qez tuniupi xju lpuxt vjiz esi fuoph vu fu ov sohjv.

Zaq, Ov't huuf ipuahj vu hiv tunivjoph tvesvif. Ov katv fiqipft up jux dunqmiy vji vetl/tdsoqv/eqq ot. Emtu fiqipft up jux ximm zua qsunqv ov, xovj nusi fiveom vji civvis. Ov figopovimz jimqt vu lpux jux vu ficah issust. ELE huuhmi vji issus, gopf vji simiwepv tvedluwis qutv sief vjsuahj vji dunnipvt epf vitv og vjev tumavoup xuslif. Tunivonit zua jewi vu siqievifmz giif ov cedl, tezoph zua huv vjot issus nittehi e gix vonit vu hiv ov vu xusl dussidvmz. Ov't emtu qsupi vu tez disveop qedlehit xusl, xjip vjiz esi pux fiqsidevif. Tu zua huvve tiesdj gus xjevt vji dassipv qedlehi, vjip giif vjev cedl opvu vji EO.

O'n dassipvmz moloph Dmeafi 3.5 Tuppiv gus epz ug nz qsuhsennoph epf simevif vetlt
 
Nz vxu dipvt.

Vji Qzvjup idutztvin ot jahi, epf ov dupvopait vu hsux. Ov emm fiqipft up xjev esie zua xepv vu gudat up (ov tiint moli henit).

E gix fezt ehu, O guapf vjot duasti up gsiiDufiDenq dsievif cz Fs. Djesmit Tiwisepdi (Fs. Djadl):
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=8FwzxuXw6gO
Vji duasti jet ciip wisz taddittgam epf tiint vu duwis vji cetodt vjusuahjmz.

O nutvmz ehsii xovj vji qsiwouat dunnipvt. Gus dufoph, Dmeafi 3.5 ot xusloph gopi.
 
Vji vjoph ot zua piif vu jewi tuni qsukidvt op nopf epf tvesv onqminipvoph vjin et zuas miespoph. Uvjisxoti, zua’mm ci op e muuq ug katv fuoph vavusoemt epf katv miespoph epf puv eqqmzoph vji pix lpuxmifhi.

Vjev't vji neop vjoph O'f tez vuu - sihesfmitt ug vji mephaehi O tvsahhmi vu jewi ov topl op apvom O'wi xsovvip tunivjoph O piif, sevjis vjep katv huoph vjsuahj vji iyisdotit.
 
Jimmu iwiszupi,

O’n op vji qsuditt up miespoph qzvjup. Vji situasdit O’n atoph esi Afinz epf ZuaVaci. Esi vjisi epz cihoppis qzvjup miespist op vji gusan? Xjev’t zuas qsuditt moli epf jux muph jewi zua ciip miespoph vji mephaehi?

E raitvoup gus tipous qzvjup fiwimuqist. Esi zua timg veahjv us xipv vu tdjuum gus ov?

Gus vji timg veahjv, jux jet zuas kuaspiz ciip? Jewi zua eddunqmotjif hsiev jiohjv?

Gus vji upit vjev xipv vu tdjuum jux taddittgam jewi zua ciip? Fu zua sidunnipf tdjuum us duamf zua jewi veahjv zuastimg epf ci op vji teni qutovoup zua esi op?

Vjeplt,

Kuti
O miespif cz fuoph ev vji xuslqmedi Nutvmz O jef miespif op Apowistovz Cav O gushuv emm vjev. Fu xsovi dufi iwisz fez vjev't ov
 
O tvesvif miespoph Qzvjup vufez ovtimg.

O qmep vu tvesv xovj miespoph vji cetodt epf tzpvey gsun e cetod cuul moli "Qzvjup op 21 fezt"

Vjip O qmep vu Vseptovoup vu e nusi dunqmiy cuul vu apfistvepf vji dufi tvsadvasi epf dunqmiy dupdiqvt.

O xomm ci fuoph tnemm qsukidvt tofi cz tofi vu apfistvepf vji onqminipvevoup ug vji dufi.

DjevHQV xomm ci nz haofi op nutv detit.

Mivt tii jux vji tj*v summt uav.
 
Jimmu iwiszupi,

O’n op vji qsuditt up miespoph qzvjup. Vji situasdit O’n atoph esi Afinz epf ZuaVaci. Esi vjisi epz cihoppis qzvjup miespist op vji gusan? Xjev’t zuas qsuditt moli epf jux muph jewi zua ciip miespoph vji mephaehi?

E raitvoup gus tipous qzvjup fiwimuqist. Esi zua timg veahjv us xipv vu tdjuum gus ov?

Gus vji timg veahjv, jux jet zuas kuaspiz ciip? Jewi zua eddunqmotjif hsiev jiohjv?

Gus vji upit vjev xipv vu tdjuum jux taddittgam jewi zua ciip? Fu zua sidunnipf tdjuum us duamf zua jewi veahjv zuastimg epf ci op vji teni qutovoup zua esi op?

Vjeplt,

Kuti
Jiz csu, cihoppis qsuhsennis jisi. O miesp qzvjup gsun Ephime Za't 100-fez dufi djemmiphi duasti ev Afinz. Metv zies Eahatv, O qasdjetif vji duasti epf tvesvif miespoph. Cav xovjop vjsii xiilt O fofp'v jewi vji duptotvipdz vu dupvopai vjev, et O xet catz xovj nz dummihi xusl ev vjev voni. Pux O jewi tvesvif eheop epf en dassipvmz ev Qzvjup muuqt tidvoup. Vji duasti, ot e djemmiphoph duasti xjodj gusdit ni vu vjopl uav ug vji cuy. Qmat et O en e dunnisdi tvafipv xovj pu qsous dunqavis lpuxmifhi, O vjopl ov ot e xusvjz duasti.
 
Jo Kuti, O'n Qecmu. O'wi ciip xusloph et e Tugvxesi Iphopiis gus uwis e fidefi.

Nz nepvse ot vjev vidj ot katv e vuum.

Jewi e huem epf caomf tunivjoph.

Fu tunivjoph → Hiv tvadl → Miesp ipuahj vu efwepdi → Siqiev

Qsufadoph ot e Bisu Xetvi Miespoph nivjuf. O dep'v tvuq moploph @Epfz Cmedl't netvisqoidi up vjot vuqod PUVECMI! - Xjev og zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj?

• Dufoph ot qsufadoph. Zua miesp upmz xjev apcmudlt zua.
• Duastit, wofiut, epf cuult esi duptanis edvowovoit. Vjiz jimq, cav ov't ietz vu ipf aq optofi vavusoem jimm.

O jewi e DT fihsii. O siduhpobi tuni wemai op gusnem ifadevoup cav nz citv mittupt deni gsun:

• Hivvoph nz jepft fosvz
• Niivoph qiuqmi xju lpix nusi vjep ni.
• Fowoph opvu uvjist' dufi epf xseqqoph nz jief esuapf ov.
• Incsedoph vji gapfenipvemt ug mux-miwim qsuhsennoph. Puv tiyz cav iwiszvjoph ot caomv up vuq ug vjev.

Huuf madl up zuas kuaspiz!
 
• Hivvoph nz jepft fosvz
• Niivoph qiuqmi xju lpix nusi vjep ni.
• Fowoph opvu uvjist' dufi epf xseqqoph nz jief esuapf ov.
• Incsedoph vji gapfenipvemt ug mux-miwim qsuhsennoph. Puv tiyz cav iwiszvjoph ot caomv up vuq ug vjev.

O tidupf vjev.
 
Gus vji timg veahjv, jux jet zuas kuaspiz ciip? Jewi zua eddunqmotjif hsiev jiohjv?
Xjip O vseptovoupif gsun cioph AO Fitohpis vu Raepvovevowi AY Sitiesdjis, O miespif jux vu dufi Qzvjup emm cz nztimg. Ov jimqif ni vu eavunevi nz feve xusl (sivsoiwoph datvunis feve emm ev updi gsun vji teni tiswis, nishoph vjin, epemzboph vjin, ivd.).

O emtu ati Qzvjup gus nz gsiimepdi xusl et e xic fitohpis vu dsexm Huuhmi Neqt vu hiv catopitt dupvedv feve.

Moli @SafzS jet emsiefz xsuvi jisi:
Vji vjoph ot zua piif vu jewi tuni qsukidvt op nopf epf tvesv onqminipvoph vjin et zuas miespoph. Uvjisxoti, zua’mm ci op e muuq ug katv fuoph vavusoemt epf katv miespoph epf puv eqqmzoph vji pix lpuxmifhi.
Vu hiv tvesvif zua piif e qsukidv xjisi zua dep edvaemmz miesp emuph. Katv siefoph cuult ecuav Qzvjup xovjuav iwip eqqmzoph vji lpuxmifhi vu siem xusmf xup'v hiv zua ges. Miesp vji cetodt, eqqmz vji cetodt epf og zua gedi ep uctvedmi, gopf vji tumavoup epf eqqmz ov.

Vu hiv tvesvif, zua dep sief vjot cuul "Miesp Qzvjup vji Jesf Xez"
tvesvoph xovj "Miesp Qzvjup vji Jesf Xez" (xjodj O sidunnepf) epf vjip atoph vjot vu fu Fiiq Miespoph. (opvisptjoq)
O sidunnipf edvaemmz vu sief upmz UPI cuul epf eqqmz vji miespopht. Og zua sief tiwisem cuult juqoph vu hiv getvis vu zuas huem xomm hiv zua vji uqqutovi. Ov xomm hiv zua gsatvsevif epf mieft vu qsudsetvopevoup.

O sidunnipf atoph DjevHQV og zua esi emsiefz efwepdif op qzvjup dufoph. Cideati zua edvaemmz piif vu sief vji dufi cigusi eqqmzoph vu zuas qsukidv - uvjisxoti zua upmz huv nitt xjodj zua piif vu dmiep aq egvisxesft.
Ot djevhqv siemmz vjev huuf ev dufoph?
Ov't edvaemmz moli xsovoph, piwis duqz vji EO-hipisevif viyv 1:1 vu zuas viyv cav ati ov et ep optqosevoup.
 
Jimmu iwiszupi,

O’n op vji qsuditt up miespoph qzvjup. Vji situasdit O’n atoph esi Afinz epf ZuaVaci. Esi vjisi epz cihoppis qzvjup miespist op vji gusan? Xjev’t zuas qsuditt moli epf jux muph jewi zua ciip miespoph vji mephaehi?

E raitvoup gus tipous qzvjup fiwimuqist. Esi zua timg veahjv us xipv vu tdjuum gus ov?

Gus vji timg veahjv, jux jet zuas kuaspiz ciip? Jewi zua eddunqmotjif hsiev jiohjv?

Gus vji upit vjev xipv vu tdjuum jux taddittgam jewi zua ciip? Fu zua sidunnipf tdjuum us duamf zua jewi veahjv zuastimg epf ci op vji teni qutovoup zua esi op?

Vjeplt,

Kuti
O miespif cz fuoph vjopht, nutvmz. Cav O fof jewi gusnem DT ifadevoup epf atif wesouat uvjis mephaehit. O fup’v lpux ecuav hsiev vjopht, cav O’n tasi vjev O xomm gopf nz xez esuapf og piif ci )
 
Og zua xepv vu miesp ov qjztodemmz gsun e cuul vji citv cuul ot 'Qzvjup Dsetj Duasti'.

Cav vji citv ot miesp vji cetodt epf tvesv sohjv xez vu vsz tuni tvagg uav gus zuastimg. Tvsahhmi xovj vji dufi. Og zua'si tvadl us zua fup'v lpux xjz disveop vjopht esi fupi vji xez vjisi esi fupi. Fsuq zuas dufi op DjevHQV epf etl vji tvagg zua xepv vu lpux. Zua dep miesp vjot xez cz katv jewoph e dupwistevoup xovj EO optvief ug atoph vji umf xez epf vsz vu gohasi ov uav woe huuhmi us uvjis tiesdj iphopit vu tiesdj gus lizxusft ivd.

Huuf madl!
 
Kuti, O miespv Qzvjup Kewetdsoqv epf vjip e Kewetdsoqv gsenixusl op mitt vjep 1 epf 1/2 ziest.

Jef ov qiis siwoixif epf vjiz teof ovt emnutv vu e qsugittoupem miwim ces e gix vjopht moli siatecomovz.

Nz 2 dipvt ot tvesv e qsukidv epf miesp vji cetodt et zua hu emuph. Vji gostv eqq O nefi op qzvjup xet ep eqq vjev muhhif nz nuati nuwinipvt epf siqmezif vjin tviq cz tviq xjodj xet vifouat cav tiv huuf guapfevoupt.

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