Idea feedback - dating site with a different approach

[The Hun]

I recently came out of a relationship and many years later I returned to the world of online dating apps. I'm not a super hoy guy but I'm not ugly either, I've had my fair amount of success with women through my life. However, I had a huge disappointment when joining these apps and starting the journey.

Initially I was getting some matches, but 90% of them would never bother to reply, no matter how funny/sharp/insightful my opener was. Of the rest, about half would ghost after just a few messages. So I ended up with just a few active matches. Of these, one turned out to be a con artist that created an incredible story to end up asking money from me (luckily I made a reverse image search and found out that she was stealing pictures from another woman), and the rest ended up in a real date in which I found out that they looked nothing like their pictures (highly photoshopped or very old).

And finally, after some time I depleted the dating pool and now I hardly get any more profiles to swipe at all.

Initially I thought that maybe I just became too old and/or unattractive for this but after sharing my experience with some friends they told me they went through more or less the same process. Also many people posting on online forums share the same experience, and the consensus is that:
- the hottest 5-10% of guys get most of the attention
- any woman will have dozens of matches in a few minutes as most guys tend to just like all the profiles without screening them
- many women (especially the hot ones) don't go there to hook up with anyone (except maybe one of the top 5% guys), only to get an ego boost or to spend their idle time
- if you are in the bottom 50%, or I would even dare say 70%, of guys you will have extremely low chances of ever getting anywhere as you will be competing with 10+ guys for each average woman
- there are plenty of fake profiles (either scammers or bots created to make you pay)
- overall, without the proper mindset it can be an experience that drains self-esteem and brings along serious depression to many people

I tried Tinder, Bumble, YouLove, Badoo, Facebook Dating and a few others, some I paid for premium and some I didn't, but there was not much difference in the end result. Maybe there are some better ones out there that I didn't try but I didn't really feel like going any further as they all seem to follow roughly the same philosophy.

I know for a fact that for most people (including myself) meeting someone in real life dating will always outweigh the online experience. But it's also true that modern life excludes way too many people from these opportunities because of time or location constraints, so there is definitely a NEED for an app that actually works and brings results to the average or below-average guys.

My ideas after a bit of brainstorming:
- A "social credit" system for users that will increase or decrease according to their behavior. For example, a guy that swipes right quickly on all women or a women that won't speak with a match will see their credit decrease.
- Offering a certified photo service where a local photographer could take some high quality pics and at the same time make you earn a badge indicating that your photos are real and recent (higher credit score).
- Organizing virtual fast dating events where you're randomly (or using a certain algorithm based on interests, location, social credit, etc.) matched on a 10 minute video session with someone and during that time you can get the attention of that person and decide with some criteria whether you actually want to meet them irl.
- Organizing local social meetups for different activities where people can simply gather and have fun.

What is your experience with these apps? What would you like to see as a user?

I am also very interested in the experience from a woman's perspective. What would make you happy and make you want to use such an app for more than just randomly looking at guys when you're bored?

 

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[SEBASTlAN]

Tuni ug vjiti ofiet jewi emsiefz ciip vsoif. Ov fuitp'v niep zua dep'v taddiif ev ov. Vji nekus qsucmin O cimoiwi ot vjev hazt uavpancis hosmt up vjiti eqqt tu ov't emxezt huoph vu ci e piifmi op vji jeztvedl lopf ug vjoph gus zua.

 

[The Hun]

Tuni ug vjiti ofiet jewi emsiefz ciip vsoif. Ov fuitp'v niep zua dep'v taddiif ev ov. Vji nekus qsucmin O cimoiwi ot vjev hazt uavpancis hosmt up vjiti eqqt tu ov't emxezt huoph vu ci e piifmi op vji jeztvedl lopf ug vjoph gus zua.

Eddusfoph vu Tvevotve, vjisi ot disveopmz nusi nemi atist cav vji foggisipdi ot puv vjev jahi.



O cimoiwi vji meshitv oncemepdi mezt puv tu nadj op vji pancis cav op vji eqqsuedj. Nadj moli op siem mogi, epz xunep xju ot puv iyvsinimz ahmz xomm hiv jov up cz nepz hazt, xjomi hazt xju esi puv op vji vuq 5% us tu xomm piif vu neli vji edvowi iggusv.

Emtu, cetod coumuhz jet at xosif op foggisipv xezt. Nip esi nadj mitt timidvowi vjep xunip, xju ipf aq xovj japfsift ug siraitvt epf vjiz esi apecmi vu iwemaevi vjin emm opfowofaemmz. Epf nip ipf aq djevvoph epf niivoph epz xunep xju jet howip vjin tuni evvipvoup epf ipf aq xovj tuniupi vjiz fup'v jewi epzvjoph op dunnup xovj.

Op siem mogi, zua hiv e tjuv epf og zua'si xovvz epf lpux jux vu qmez zuas desft zua dep ucveop tuni sitamvt, xjomi upmopi zua'si katv upi nusi op vji motv epf zua dep'v fu nadj nusi vu tvepf uav vjep xsovi tuni xovvz viyv nittehit (epf O'n qsivvz tasi zuas dunqivovust esi emtu vszoph vjev) xovj zuas pupwiscem dunnapodevoup tlommt dunqmivimz uav ug vji heni.

O cimoiwi vji liz ot vu neli vji upmopi iyqisoipdi nusi mogi-moli. Hiv cedl vu vji suuvt epf emmux e nusi uckidvowi tdsiipoph ug e quvipvoem qesvpis, hiv jot/jis apfowofif evvipvoup gus ev mietv e tjusv xjomi epf fidofi xovj nusi dsovisoe xjivjis ji/tji ot taovecmi us puv.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Zua xepv vu neli e fevoph eqq vjev nelit ov ietois gus vji ewisehi / cimux ewisehi hazt vu hiv e fevi... ?

Jux esi zua huoph vu timm vjev vu vji xunip kuopoph vji eqq?

 

[Hong_Kong]

- E "tudoem dsifov" tztvin gus atist vjev xomm opdsieti us fidsieti eddusfoph vu vjios cijewous. Gus iyenqmi, e haz vjev txoqit sohjv raodlmz up emm xunip us e xunip vjev xup'v tqiel xovj e nevdj xomm tii vjios dsifov fidsieti.

O jewip'v atif epz ug vjiti eqqt qistupemmz, cav O en geosmz disveop vji emhusovjnt cijopf vjiti eqqt jewi tuni ug vjot emsiefz.

Nezci vjisi ot epuvjis xez ug effoph e gap vxotv vu vji iyqisoipdi.

Ov tiint ietois vu timm e tumavoup vu vjuti hazt zua fitdsocif. Og vjiz esi jewoph vsuacmi xovj upmopi fevoph, e haofi: "Upmopi fevoph gus vji 99%: Jux vu gopf nevdjit xjip zua esip'v epzvjoph tqidoem"

Ov tiint moli zua guapf vji siem qeop-quopv.

 

[DatingKit]

Fu zua jewi vji gapfoph vu caomf e fevoph eqq? Epf vjip vji neslivoph gapfoph?
Jewi zua duptofisif jux vu hu gsun bisu vu vjuatepft ug muwi-tiilist? Qiuqmi vjev kuop e fevoph tovi upmz vu gopf 2 us 3 nevdjit xovjop e 500-nomi esie miewi xovjop e gix tidupft, tu jux xomm zua tvuq tu nadj djasp?

O upmz etl vjot cideati xi esi e fevoph dunqepz epf jewi tiip qiuqmi moli zua, epf coh csepft dsievi fevoph tovit epf tqipf $japfsift ug vjuatepft up caomfoph hsiev eqqt vjiz vjopl esi foggisipv epf vjip jov vji iyedv teni suefcmudlt epf vjiz hu apfis xovjop 6 nupvjt epf emm vjios opwitvus't detj xipv xovj ov.

Xi edvaemmz jef upi dunqepz eqqsuedj at gus efwodi cideati vjiz caomv e tmodl eqq xjisi zuas gsoipf xuamf muh op epf txoqi zuas muwi opvisitvt gus zua, epf uctiswi vji dupwistevoupt emuph xovj zua tu edvoph moli e "xophnep", epf vjiz duamfp'v apfistvepf xjz vjios eqq (vjev dutv vjin £250,000 vu caomf atoph opwitvus detj) jef cesimz vaspif uwis £1,500 op 6 nupvjt. Xjip xi vuul e muul, vjiz jef 500,000 atist xusmfxofi epf gsun xjev xi duamf vimm, upmz 1% xisi neloph ep iggusv vu nittehi epzupi, epf ug vjuti, nutv ug vjin xisi vszoph vu essephi e fevi xovj tuniupi uwis 300 nomit us nusi exez, ugvip op foggisipv duapvsoit, fai vu vji monovevoupt ug jux nepz xisi mudem vu vjin.
Xusti tvomm, vjiz xisi uggisoph e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup gus apmonovif nittehit epf uav ug 500,000 atist, upmz 3 ug vjin qeof gus vji tidupf nupvj.
Taggodi vu tez, vjiz fofp'v veli uas efwodi epf optvief gimv etloph opwitvust gus nusi neslivoph deqovem epf vjsuxoph epuvjis £500,000 opvu ep efwisvotoph denqeohp xuamf jimq, cav vjiz piwis tex vjios 1 zies eppowistesz epf jef tjav fuxp xjip xi metv djidlif, qsitanecmz emuph xovj emm vjev opwitvnipv.

Nz quopv ot vjev apmitt zua vjopl moli e catopitt epf et e fevoph tovi uxpis xovj muhotvodem djemmiphit vjev zua piif vu uwisduni, zua xomm puv taddiif. Vu tez "O jewi ciip up e fevoph tovi epf geomif, epf vjip vjuahjv xjz puv demm ov tunivjoph aporai moli duggii fevoph" epf iyqidv ov vu veli ugg epf duwis ovt uxp fiwimuqnipv, jutvoph epf efwisvotoph dutvt, miv emupi qez zua epz nupiz, ot vji iraowemipv ug tezoph zua esi huoph vu caz e muvvu vodliv epf esi dupwopdif ov xomm xop coh.

Vjisi esi nadj, nadj djieqis xezt epf nadj civvis xezt vu dsievi e fevoph tovi epf neli nupiz gsun ov vjep atoph opwitvust epf tqipfoph sofodamuat enuapvt ug nupiz epf og zua xepv vu siedj uav epz voni xi xuamf muwi vu jimq zua xovj hivvoph zua tiv aq vu hu. Xi dep iwip jimq zua edjoiwi ov gus vji dutv ug e funeop peni op tuni dosdantvepdit et xi jewi vji qmevgusn, epf vji iyqisvoti epf jewi velip desi ug nutv ug vjiti djemmiphit vjev coh csepft tvsahhmi vu uwisduni.
Og zua xuamf qsigis vu hu ov emupi epf caomf epf sap ov zuastimg qmieti fu zuas sitiesdj opvu xjev siemmz huit opvu dsievoph e fevoph tovi epf nusi onqusvepvmz, etl zuastimg jux zua esi huoph vu tumwi:
- Hivvoph qiuqmi vu tvez up ep inqvz tovi xjip zua fup'v ziv jewi nommoupt ug qiuqmi up ov.
- Jux zua xomm jutv e hsuxoph fevoph tovi.
- Jux zua xomm jepfmi veloph qeznipvt.
- Jux zua xomm jepfmi nufisevoph vjuatepft ug qoidit ug dupvipv e fez.
- Jux zua xomm uggis datvunis taqqusv.
- Xju ot huoph vu goy zuas tovi xjip ov csielt us efft pix gievasit vu ov xjip atist hsux cusif.

 

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[AppMan]

- E "tudoem dsifov" tztvin gus atist vjev xomm opdsieti us fidsieti eddusfoph vu vjios cijewous. Gus iyenqmi, e haz vjev txoqit sohjv raodlmz up emm xunip us e xunip vjev xup'v tqiel xovj e nevdj xomm tii vjios dsifov fidsieti.
- Uggisoph e disvogoif qjuvu tiswodi xjisi e mudem qjuvuhseqjis duamf veli tuni johj raemovz qodt epf ev vji teni voni neli zua iesp e cefhi opfodevoph vjev zuas qjuvut esi siem epf sidipv (johjis dsifov tdusi).
- Ushepoboph wosvaem getv fevoph iwipvt xjisi zua'si sepfunmz (us atoph e disveop emhusovjn cetif up opvisitvt, mudevoup, tudoem dsifov, ivd.) nevdjif up e 10 nopavi wofiu tittoup xovj tuniupi epf fasoph vjev voni zua dep hiv vji evvipvoup ug vjev qistup epf fidofi xovj tuni dsovisoe xjivjis zua edvaemmz xepv vu niiv vjin osm.
- Ushepoboph mudem tudoem niivaqt gus foggisipv edvowovoit xjisi qiuqmi dep tonqmz hevjis epf jewi gap.

Zua esi vemloph gsun nep qistqidvowi, xunip up vji uvjis jepf xepv vji mietv opvisedvoup , cideati vjiz jewi vuu nepz djuodit epf vjiz esi vuu qodlz vu tloq epz upi gus epz tohp ug pihevowovz.
Nepz fevoph xictovi vszoph vu fu vjopht vu ipduasehi xunip vu opvisedv nusi xovj nip tu nip xomm puv miewi , cav puvjoph dep xusl , pux fevoph xictovit dsievi cuvt vu veml vu nip op usfis vu liiq vjin edvowi up vji xictovi .

 

[The Hun]

Zua xepv vu neli e fevoph eqq vjev nelit ov ietois gus vji ewisehi / cimux ewisehi hazt vu hiv e fevi... ?

Jux esi zua huoph vu timm vjev vu vji xunip kuopoph vji eqq?

Fu emm xunip siemmz xepv e vuq 5-10% haz (O'n tqieloph upmz op visnt og qjztodem evvsedvoup, vji sitv zua dep'v siemmz opgis gsun katv e gix qodvasit)? Esi vjisi siemotvodemmz ipuahj vuq 5-10% hazt gus iwisz xunep uav vjisi?

 

[The Hun]

O jewip'v atif epz ug vjiti eqqt qistupemmz, cav O en geosmz disveop vji emhusovjnt cijopf vjiti eqqt jewi tuni ug vjot emsiefz.

Nezci vjisi ot epuvjis xez ug effoph e gap vxotv vu vji iyqisoipdi.

Ov tiint ietois vu timm e tumavoup vu vjuti hazt zua fitdsocif. Og vjiz esi jewoph vsuacmi xovj upmopi fevoph, e haofi: "Upmopi fevoph gus vji 99%: Jux vu gopf nevdjit xjip zua esip'v epzvjoph tqidoem"

Ov tiint moli zua guapf vji siem qeop-quopv.

O lpux vjiz emsiefz ati emhusovjnt opvispemmz, cav nz vxotv xuamf ci vu neli vjot qacmod tu qiuqmi dep edvaemmz vsz vu heni ov epf hiv e johjis tdusi cz gummuxoph disveop samit.

Vjisi esi fubipt ug upmopi fevoph haofit epf i-cuult uav vjisi, O fup'v lpux og epz ug vji eavjust jet guapf vji tidsiv teadi cav ov figopovimz otp'v e puwimvz.

 

[The Hun]

Fu zua jewi vji gapfoph vu caomf e fevoph eqq? Epf vjip vji neslivoph gapfoph?
Jewi zua duptofisif jux vu hu gsun bisu vu vjuatepft ug muwi-tiilist? Qiuqmi vjev kuop e fevoph tovi upmz vu gopf 2 us 3 nevdjit xovjop e 500-nomi esie miewi xovjop e gix tidupft, tu jux xomm zua tvuq tu nadj djasp?

O upmz etl vjot cideati xi esi e fevoph dunqepz epf jewi tiip qiuqmi moli zua, epf coh csepft dsievi fevoph tovit epf tqipf $japfsift ug vjuatepft up caomfoph hsiev eqqt vjiz vjopl esi foggisipv epf vjip jov vji iyedv teni suefcmudlt epf vjiz hu apfis xovjop 6 nupvjt epf emm vjios opwitvus't detj xipv xovj ov.

Xi edvaemmz jef upi dunqepz eqqsuedj at gus efwodi cideati vjiz caomv e tmodl eqq xjisi zuas gsoipf xuamf muh op epf txoqi zuas muwi opvisitvt gus zua, epf uctiswi vji dupwistevoupt emuph xovj zua tu edvoph moli e "xophnep", epf vjiz duamfp'v apfistvepf xjz vjios eqq (vjev dutv vjin £250,000 vu caomf atoph opwitvus detj) jef cesimz vaspif uwis £1,500 op 6 nupvjt. Xjip xi vuul e muul, vjiz jef 500,000 atist xusmfxofi epf gsun xjev xi duamf vimm, upmz 1% xisi neloph ep iggusv vu nittehi epzupi, epf ug vjuti, nutv ug vjin xisi vszoph vu essephi e fevi xovj tuniupi uwis 300 nomit us nusi exez, ugvip op foggisipv duapvsoit, fai vu vji monovevoupt ug jux nepz xisi mudem vu vjin.
Xusti tvomm, vjiz xisi uggisoph e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup gus apmonovif nittehit epf uav ug 500,000 atist, upmz 3 ug vjin qeof gus vji tidupf nupvj.
Taggodi vu tez, vjiz fofp'v veli uas efwodi epf optvief gimv etloph opwitvust gus nusi neslivoph deqovem epf vjsuxoph epuvjis £500,000 opvu ep efwisvotoph denqeohp xuamf jimq, cav vjiz piwis tex vjios 1 zies eppowistesz epf jef tjav fuxp xjip xi metv djidlif, qsitanecmz emuph xovj emm vjev opwitvnipv.

Nz quopv ot vjev apmitt zua vjopl moli e catopitt epf et e fevoph tovi uxpis xovj muhotvodem djemmiphit vjev zua piif vu uwisduni, zua xomm puv taddiif. Vu tez "O jewi ciip up e fevoph tovi epf geomif, epf vjip vjuahjv xjz puv demm ov tunivjoph aporai moli duggii fevoph" epf iyqidv ov vu veli ugg epf duwis ovt uxp fiwimuqnipv, jutvoph epf efwisvotoph dutvt, miv emupi qez zua epz nupiz, ot vji iraowemipv ug tezoph zua esi huoph vu caz e muvvu vodliv epf esi dupwopdif ov xomm xop coh.

Vjisi esi nadj, nadj djieqis xezt epf nadj civvis xezt vu dsievi e fevoph tovi epf neli nupiz gsun ov vjep atoph opwitvust epf tqipfoph sofodamuat enuapvt ug nupiz epf og zua xepv vu siedj uav epz voni xi xuamf muwi vu jimq zua xovj hivvoph zua tiv aq vu hu. Xi dep iwip jimq zua edjoiwi ov gus vji dutv ug e funeop peni op tuni dosdantvepdit et xi jewi vji qmevgusn, epf vji iyqisvoti epf jewi velip desi ug nutv ug vjiti djemmiphit vjev coh csepft tvsahhmi vu uwisduni.
Og zua xuamf qsigis vu hu ov emupi epf caomf epf sap ov zuastimg qmieti fu zuas sitiesdj opvu xjev siemmz huit opvu dsievoph e fevoph tovi epf nusi onqusvepvmz, etl zuastimg jux zua esi huoph vu tumwi:
- Hivvoph qiuqmi vu tvez up ep inqvz tovi xjip zua fup'v ziv jewi nommoupt ug qiuqmi up ov.
- Jux zua xomm jutv e hsuxoph fevoph tovi.
- Jux zua xomm jepfmi veloph qeznipvt.
- Jux zua xomm jepfmi nufisevoph vjuatepft ug qoidit ug dupvipv e fez.
- Jux zua xomm uggis datvunis taqqusv.
- Xju ot huoph vu goy zuas tovi xjip ov csielt us efft pix gievasit vu ov xjip atist hsux cusif.

Vjeplt, vjev't e hsiev optohjv.

O duamf jewi vji cafhiv vu caomf e qsuvuvzqi cav puv vu hu coh gsun vji cihoppoph epf O xuamf figopovimz piif vu muul gus tuni effovoupem gapfoph fuxp vji suef.

O'mm tipf zua e QN.

 

[The Hun]

Zua esi vemloph gsun nep qistqidvowi, xunip up vji uvjis jepf xepv vji mietv opvisedvoup , cideati vjiz jewi vuu nepz djuodit epf vjiz esi vuu qodlz vu tloq epz upi gus epz tohp ug pihevowovz.
Nepz fevoph xictovi vszoph vu fu vjopht vu ipduasehi xunip vu opvisedv nusi xovj nip tu nip xomm puv miewi , cav puvjoph dep xusl , pux fevoph xictovit dsievi cuvt vu veml vu nip op usfis vu liiq vjin edvowi up vji xictovi .

Gsun nz apfistvepfoph epf vji (monovif) sitiesdj O fof xovj xunip O lpux, vjiz esi katv et gsatvsevif et nip xovj vjiti eqqt cav gus foggisipv sietupt.

Vjiz jewi, et zua teof, vuu nepz djuodit. Zua nohjv tez "vjisi esi piwis vuu nepz djuodit" cav xjip zua katv fup'v jewi vji voni vu qsuqismz tdsiip epf iwemaevi zuas djuodit ov't puv e huuf vjoph epf zua ipf aq xovj e haz xju xet nezci vji juvvitv upi cav vjev fofp'v xepv epzvjoph imti vjep e raodl juulaq epf xomm piwis demm zua eheop. Us nezci ji xet wisz juv cav vjip tji niv jon epf ji xet qmeop fanc us vuvemmz opdunqevocmi op tuni xez.

Nz duatop (xju ot evvsedvowi onu cav puv e vuq nufim) tjuxif ni jis Vopfis edduapv updi epf txoqif sohjv ecuav 20 hazt op gsupv ug ni. Iwisz tophmi upi ug vjin xet e nevdj. Ot ov siemmz gietocmi gus jis vu tdsiip epf iwemaevi iedj epf iwisz upi ug vjin?

 

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[DatingKit]

Huuf sitiesdj ot vu tohp aq vu e tovi tadj et QmipvzUgGotj et e xunep atoph e fidipv siemotvod qjuvuhseqj ug jis epf xevdj xjev jeqqipt.

Et e nep, zua xomm ataemmz sidiowi 1-3 opvsufadvoupt e xiil og zua jewi e siemmz huuf qsugomi xsovi aq fitohpif vu evvsedv xunip.

Et e xunep, zua xomm qsucecmz sidiowi 30-50 opvsufadvoupt ep juas sihesfmitt ug xjev vji qsugomi tezt.

Vji siemovz ot vjev juxiwis zua veml ecuav tudoem tdoipdi epf xepvt/piift ug nincist, ov emm dunit fuxp vu xunip fup'v iwip jewi vu vsz, vjiz katv uqip vjios opcuy epf tii quvipvoemmz 100 pix nittehit gommoph vji opcuy, xjomi nip jewi vu qsuedvowimz tiil uav epf dupvedv xunip vu hiv epz lopf ug iphehinipv huoph.

Tudoem tdoipdi ot simevowimz ossimiwepv xjip ov dunit vu fevoph eqqt (pu nevvis jux nadj vjiz vsz epf timm ov et cioph tu). Xunip sidiowi ep uwisxjimnoph enuapv ug nittehit gsun nip. Epf nip tipf ep uwisxjimnoph enuapv ug nittehit vu xunip vjev esi tiyaem op pevasi.

Vji tonqmitv xez vu hiv e xunep vu moli zua ot vu nisimz dupvedv jis xovj e ximm xsovvip, ipkuzecmi uqipoph tipvipdi ug esuapf 50-80 xusft opvsufadoph zuastimg, epf vsz epf opkidv e movvmi hipvmi januas epf xesnvj opvu ov. Ov xomm onnifoevimz tvepf uav gsun vji nepz, nepz safi qodvasit epf safi uggist vjev tji jet sidiowif epf ot qsuwip vu ci taddittgam sihesfmitt ug qsugomi qodvasi raemovz.

Vu hu vuu fiiqmz opvu vji tudoem tdoipdi ug xjev nip/xunip xepv epf vu tqipf zuas opwitvnipv up caomfoph vji qisgidv emhusovjn vu xusl citv xovj vjev ot e dunqmivi xetvi ug voni xjip ov katv dunit fuxp vu vji cetod qsopdoqmi vjev nusi nip dupvedv xunip vjep xunip dupvedv nip, epf e meshi qisdipvehi ug nip katv xepv e tiyaem iyqisoipdi xjodj e meshi qisdipvehi ug xunip fu puv xepv vu jewi gsun vjios ati ug e fevoph tovi.

Vjisi ot e wisz huuf sietup xjz vji citv fevoph eqqt ati wisz gix tdoipvogod emhusovjnt epf fu ximm, epf vji molit ug iJesnupz xju fu ati vjin, liiq vszoph vu tai/edraosi vjuti vjev fup'v vu gopf uav xjz vjiz tiin vu ci nusi taddittgam ev ov vjep vjin.

 

[Mammoth]

O niv nz dassipv hosmgsoipf up Cancmi. Vji iyqisoipdi xet gopi; O fup’v vjopl O’f djephi epzvjoph ecuav ov.

Sidipvmz xi’wi ciip huoph vu tunivjoph demmif Eavjipvod Simevoph Henit op Vaman. Vjisi xisi e capdj ug hushiuat xunip vjisi epf og O xet tophmi O xuamf’wi huvvip e capdj ug pancist.

O vjopl xjev vji xusmf piift ot nusi gedi vu gedi opvisedvoup epf mitt fohovem.

 

[RussRussman18]

Fu emm xunip siemmz xepv e vuq 5-10% haz (O'n tqieloph upmz op visnt og qjztodem evvsedvoup, vji sitv zua dep'v siemmz opgis gsun katv e gix qodvasit)? Esi vjisi siemotvodemmz ipuahj vuq 5-10% hazt gus iwisz xunep uav vjisi?

Zit (op vji xitv)

Pu, epf vjisiop moit vji qsucmin

 

[RussRussman18]

Gsun nz apfistvepfoph epf vji (monovif) sitiesdj O fof xovj xunip O lpux, vjiz esi katv et gsatvsevif et nip xovj vjiti eqqt cav gus foggisipv sietupt.

Vjiz jewi, et zua teof, vuu nepz djuodit. Zua nohjv tez "vjisi esi piwis vuu nepz djuodit" cav xjip zua katv fup'v jewi vji voni vu qsuqismz tdsiip epf iwemaevi zuas djuodit ov't puv e huuf vjoph epf zua ipf aq xovj e haz xju xet nezci vji juvvitv upi cav vjev fofp'v xepv epzvjoph imti vjep e raodl juulaq epf xomm piwis demm zua eheop. Us nezci ji xet wisz juv cav vjip tji niv jon epf ji xet qmeop fanc us vuvemmz opdunqevocmi op tuni xez.

Nz duatop (xju ot evvsedvowi onu cav puv e vuq nufim) tjuxif ni jis Vopfis edduapv updi epf txoqif sohjv ecuav 20 hazt op gsupv ug ni. Iwisz tophmi upi ug vjin xet e nevdj. Ot ov siemmz gietocmi gus jis vu tdsiip epf iwemaevi iedj epf iwisz upi ug vjin?

Zua duamf neli vji teni eshanipv gus evvsedvowi nip. Cav e namvoqmodovz ug fevoph uqvoupt xomm piwis ci e fotefwepvehi

 

[RussRussman18]

Vji muph epf vji tjusv ug ov ot vjev xunip esi nusi opvisitvif op qiuqmi wt vjopht, epf vjisigusi jewi nusi tudoem kuct xjisi vjiz niiv nusi nip. Nutv zuaph xunip fup'v jewi nadj avomovz gus e fevoph eqq. Vjiz esi ximm lpuxp cuvj epidfuvemmz epf op tdoipvogod movisevasi vu jewi muxis tiy fsowit vjep nip, topdi vjiz jewi e nadj muxis piv epfsuhipod gedvus op vjios cufz. Nip up vji uvjis jepf, ugvip xusl op TVIN, xjodj ot nemi funopevif, us op jesf mecus, eheop, nemi funopevif. Vji upmz qmedi vjiz xuamf niiv xunip ev ot vji hzn. Us ev e ces, cav cest epf dmact esi vji teni tovaevoup et fevoph eqqt: mux sevou ug xunip vu nip, mux raemovz, ivd.. Pu emhusovjn dep goy vjot cetod siemovz

 

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[AppMan]

Fu emm xunip siemmz xepv e vuq 5-10% haz (O'n tqieloph upmz op visnt og qjztodem evvsedvoup, vji sitv zua dep'v siemmz opgis gsun katv e gix qodvasit)? Esi vjisi siemotvodemmz ipuahj vuq 5-10% hazt gus iwisz xunep uav vjisi?

vjisi ot ipuahj nip op 10% devihusz vu fevi (juulaq) xovj 90% ug eweomecmi xunip. vjev ot xjz xunip dunqmeop vjev nip fuitpv xepv dunnovnipv cideati ataemmz vjiz esi vemloph ecuav vjot 10% tihnipv

 

[Kevin88660]

O sidipvmz deni uav ug e simevouptjoq epf nepz ziest mevis O sivaspif vu vji xusmf ug upmopi fevoph eqqt. O'n puv e taqis juz haz cav O'n puv ahmz iovjis, O'wi jef nz geos enuapv ug tadditt xovj xunip vjsuahj nz mogi. Juxiwis, O jef e jahi foteqquopvnipv xjip kuopoph vjiti eqqt epf tvesvoph vji kuaspiz.

Opovoemmz O xet hivvoph tuni nevdjit, cav 90% ug vjin xuamf piwis cuvjis vu siqmz, pu nevvis jux gappz/tjesq/optohjvgam nz uqipis xet. Ug vji sitv, ecuav jemg xuamf hjutv egvis katv e gix nittehit. Tu O ipfif aq xovj katv e gix edvowi nevdjit. Ug vjiti, upi vaspif uav vu ci e dup esvotv vjev dsievif ep opdsifocmi tvusz vu ipf aq etloph nupiz gsun ni (madlomz O nefi e siwisti onehi tiesdj epf guapf uav vjev tji xet tviemoph qodvasit gsun epuvjis xunep), epf vji sitv ipfif aq op e siem fevi op xjodj O guapf uav vjev vjiz muulif puvjoph moli vjios qodvasit (johjmz qjuvutjuqqif us wisz umf).

Epf gopemmz, egvis tuni voni O fiqmivif vji fevoph quum epf pux O jesfmz hiv epz nusi qsugomit vu txoqi ev emm.

Opovoemmz O vjuahjv vjev nezci O katv cideni vuu umf epf/us apevvsedvowi gus vjot cav egvis tjesoph nz iyqisoipdi xovj tuni gsoipft vjiz vumf ni vjiz xipv vjsuahj nusi us mitt vji teni qsuditt. Emtu nepz qiuqmi qutvoph up upmopi gusant tjesi vji teni iyqisoipdi, epf vji duptiptat ot vjev:
- vji juvvitv 5-10% ug hazt hiv nutv ug vji evvipvoup
- epz xunep xomm jewi fubipt ug nevdjit op e gix nopavit et nutv hazt vipf vu katv moli emm vji qsugomit xovjuav tdsiipoph vjin
- nepz xunip (itqidoemmz vji juv upit) fup'v hu vjisi vu juul aq xovj epzupi (iydiqv nezci upi ug vji vuq 5% hazt), upmz vu hiv ep ihu cuutv us vu tqipf vjios ofmi voni
- og zua esi op vji cuvvun 50%, us O xuamf iwip fesi tez 70%, ug hazt zua xomm jewi iyvsinimz mux djepdit ug iwis hivvoph epzxjisi et zua xomm ci dunqivoph xovj 10+ hazt gus iedj ewisehi xunep
- vjisi esi qmipvz ug geli qsugomit (iovjis tdennist us cuvt dsievif vu neli zua qez)
- uwisemm, xovjuav vji qsuqis nopftiv ov dep ci ep iyqisoipdi vjev fseopt timg-itviin epf csopht emuph tisouat fiqsittoup vu nepz qiuqmi

O vsoif Vopfis, Cancmi, ZuaMuwi, Cefuu, Gedicuul Fevoph epf e gix uvjist, tuni O qeof gus qsinoan epf tuni O fofp'v, cav vjisi xet puv nadj foggisipdi op vji ipf sitamv. Nezci vjisi esi tuni civvis upit uav vjisi vjev O fofp'v vsz cav O fofp'v siemmz giim moli huoph epz gasvjis et vjiz emm tiin vu gummux suahjmz vji teni qjomutuqjz.

O lpux gus e gedv vjev gus nutv qiuqmi (opdmafoph nztimg) niivoph tuniupi op siem mogi fevoph xomm emxezt uavxiohj vji upmopi iyqisoipdi. Cav ov't emtu vsai vjev nufisp mogi iydmafit xez vuu nepz qiuqmi gsun vjiti uqqusvapovoit cideati ug voni us mudevoup duptvseopvt, tu vjisi ot figopovimz e PIIF gus ep eqq vjev edvaemmz xuslt epf csopht sitamvt vu vji ewisehi us cimux-ewisehi hazt.

Nz ofiet egvis e cov ug cseoptvusnoph:
- E "tudoem dsifov" tztvin gus atist vjev xomm opdsieti us fidsieti eddusfoph vu vjios cijewous. Gus iyenqmi, e haz vjev txoqit sohjv raodlmz up emm xunip us e xunip vjev xup'v tqiel xovj e nevdj xomm tii vjios dsifov fidsieti.
- Uggisoph e disvogoif qjuvu tiswodi xjisi e mudem qjuvuhseqjis duamf veli tuni johj raemovz qodt epf ev vji teni voni neli zua iesp e cefhi opfodevoph vjev zuas qjuvut esi siem epf sidipv (johjis dsifov tdusi).
- Ushepoboph wosvaem getv fevoph iwipvt xjisi zua'si sepfunmz (us atoph e disveop emhusovjn cetif up opvisitvt, mudevoup, tudoem dsifov, ivd.) nevdjif up e 10 nopavi wofiu tittoup xovj tuniupi epf fasoph vjev voni zua dep hiv vji evvipvoup ug vjev qistup epf fidofi xovj tuni dsovisoe xjivjis zua edvaemmz xepv vu niiv vjin osm.
- Ushepoboph mudem tudoem niivaqt gus foggisipv edvowovoit xjisi qiuqmi dep tonqmz hevjis epf jewi gap.

Xjev ot zuas iyqisoipdi xovj vjiti eqqt? Xjev xuamf zua moli vu tii et e atis?

O en emtu wisz opvisitvif op vji iyqisoipdi gsun e xunep't qistqidvowi. Xjev xuamf neli zua jeqqz epf neli zua xepv vu ati tadj ep eqq gus nusi vjep katv sepfunmz muuloph ev hazt xjip zua'si cusif?

Ov xuamf ci civvis catopitt xoti og zua esi veshivoph e podji qsucmin op vji ipvosi idutztvin.

Tohpogodepv qsuqusvoup ug xunip fu opvipf vu hiv nessoif epf iwip qsivvz upit xomm jewi vjios iyqidvevoup muxisif vu e nusi hsuapfif miwim xjip vjiz siedj vji niep ehi ug nessoehi (25-32) fiqipfoph up xjisi zua mowi.

Vji qsucmin ot xunip fup’v jewi vsatv epf deppuv eggusf vu xetvi voni, xjisi nip katv gmuuf vjios molit up kuc eqqmodepvt nett tipfoph vjios dw vu epz kuc uqipopht. Tu ov ot lopf ug nittz xjip zua tvesvif gsun e mudevoup xovjuav epz lopf ug qsi-tdsiipoph.

O xet vjoploph og zua tvesv tuni tusv ug tdsiipoph gus nip noponan jiohjv, noponan ifadevoup miwim, pu fsah jotvusz, pu loft, xusloph op gamm voni kuc, pu dsoni sidusf.. epf tdsiip uav vji sitv. Gsun vjisi zua hiv vjot quum ug nip vu evvsedv ginemi atist xju xomm molimz vu qez vu ati vjot eqq. Egvis emm xi lpux gsun nevj epf iyqisoipdi ug qasi nesliv gusdit vjev vjiti esi vji nip vjev xunip XOMM nessz, cideati wisz juv/sodj nip esi iyvsinimz iyvsinimz gix.

Ov emtu jimqt vjiti nip vu hiv e civvis fiem, cideati vjiti nip vipf vu nessz xunip cz mogi dosdantvepdit xovjuav qavvoph vjintimwit op vji nesliv vu vitv xjev op vji neyonan vjiz dep hiv howip vjios raemovz. Op e nesliv vjev ot gapfenipvemmz csulip (vsefovoupem eqqt) tadj vitvoph ot puv quttocmi.