The Entrepreneur Forum | Startups | Entrepreneurship | Starting a Business | Motivation | Success

How to work hard

Accelerate wealth. Build a business that pays freedom. Join more than 70,000 entrepreneurs and register for the Fastlane Entrepreneur forum. Remove ads? Join the INSIDERS.

Rawr

Gold Contributor
Speedway Pass
Aug 12, 2007
1,821
1,724
454
south florida
Good article from Seth Godin's blog about what it takes today to work hard and how it is different from a few decades ago.

http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2007/09/labor-day.html

I once heard a semi-joke that one must try really hard to climb up the ladder to the position of power, because the higher you go, the smaller amount of work you have to do is. Ideally I would love to have a position where I need to make a few big decisions a week and have people under me that will work out the small things. Where can a person find something like that?
 

Allthingznew

Contributor
Aug 26, 2007
408
51
25
Ideally I would love to have a position where I need to make a few big decisions a week and have people under me that will work out the small things. Where can a person find something like that?

You don't find it, you create it.
 

Analyzer

Contributor
Aug 31, 2007
244
71
40
Portugal, Europe
I would love to have a position where I need to make a few big decisions a week and have people under me that will work out the small things.

Actually a lot of people avoid such positions.

They are afraid of making the wrong decisions and prefer to be lead and told what to do, if you lack self confidence it's actually a much more comfortable place.
 

Russ H

Gold Contributor
Read Millionaire Fastlane
Speedway Pass
Jul 25, 2007
6,474
1,335
381
60
Napa Valley, CA
Ideally I would love to have a position where I need to make a few big decisions a week and have people under me that will work out the small things. Where can a person find something like that?

Rawr,

To get to this point, you need to acquire the knowledge to hire the people "under you" to do all the rest of the stuff.

One way to get that knowledge is to DO what they do, first.

Then you can hire the right people for the job.

-Russ H.
 

BeingChewsie

Silver Contributor
Read Millionaire Fastlane
Speedway Pass
Aug 27, 2007
438
527
236
Phoenix, AZ
Hi,

I read the article, thought it was great. I think I saw the article differently than you. It confirmed for *me* that I'm on the right path. The fact that I don't want to be *owned* by any company even if it means my job would be an easy one is spot on.

Not that long ago I was very much in the "where do I find it? " line of thought. I wanted to be a rat on a wheel in a job that didn't tax me, I thought foolishly that would give me freedom and make my life easier. I wanted a "position". You can get positions like you want. A good grad degree or doctorate, some management skills, and these days you can even do them from home in your pj's. They are are not hard to find. The problem I see is that you are still owned, still at the beck and call of someone. Unless you own the food chain, you eat below someone who tells -you- what to do. Your security and ultimately your time is determined by another person. I would offer that you should give thought to what it is you'd really like. Perhaps it isn't something you "find" or is given to you but something you need to exert some effort(read that as word hard) to "Create" as someone else said. Much like the article was trying to get across.

Nobody but you can know what is the right path for you. I know my own path has changed several times in the past few years. I changed careers, earned different degrees, changed jobs within my new career, and changed hours. In the end, I still answered to someone who owned my time.

It would seem to me that taking your thought from the slow lane to the fast lane requires that instead of trying to climb someones elses ladder to a "position" in which you are still at their beck and call, you make your own ladder and climb as high as you want. You do it on your own terms.

Sue



Good article from Seth Godin's blog about what it takes today to work hard and how it is different from a few decades ago.

http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2007/09/labor-day.html

I once heard a semi-joke that one must try really hard to climb up the ladder to the position of power, because the higher you go, the smaller amount of work you have to do is. Ideally I would love to have a position where I need to make a few big decisions a week and have people under me that will work out the small things. Where can a person find something like that?
 

MJ DeMarco

Administrator
Staff member
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
FASTLANE INSIDER
Read Millionaire Fastlane
I've Read UNSCRIPTED
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
Jul 23, 2007
32,160
121,835
3,751
Fountain Hills, AZ
Ideally I would love to have a position where I need to make a few big decisions a week and have people under me that will work out the small things. Where can a person find something like that?

Easy ... you work hard for it.

Now isn't that the oxymoron of the day?

You work hard now so later, you don't have too.
 

bflash98

New Contributor
Aug 28, 2007
104
10
23
I once heard a semi-joke that one must try really hard to climb up the ladder to the position of power, because the higher you go, the smaller amount of work you have to do is. Ideally I would love to have a position where I need to make a few big decisions a week and have people under me that will work out the small things. Where can a person find something like that?


I'm not sure where jobs like that are found. In my last company all of the upper management people worked really hard always on a call or traveling. When I saw that I knew that was not the way I wanted to go.

Now at my new company my boss is the part owner of the company he makes the big decisions but he goes home early and has season tickets to the local baseball team. Other wards he is able to take time off when he wants. Now that is a place I would not mind being.
 

Russ H

Gold Contributor
Read Millionaire Fastlane
Speedway Pass
Jul 25, 2007
6,474
1,335
381
60
Napa Valley, CA
MJ, once again, you nailed it on the head.

Rep Speed + + +

-Russ H.
 

yveskleinsky

Silver Contributor
Speedway Pass
Jul 26, 2007
2,217
508
192
44
At least you are somewhat on the right track with your thinking. If your goal is to own the corporate ladder and not climb it- you are on the right track- but very few, if any, people are able to just own the ladder. ...No one starts off at the finish line. So with that said, what do you do for a living, where do you envision yourself and how do you plan to jump the gap between them?
 

nomadjanet

Contributor
Aug 28, 2007
301
57
26
TX
Depends on what you envision.
Bill Gates envisioned owning the world of personal computing. He does.
I personally have a hard time with dreaming big enough.
I envision having a business that provides me & my DH with a life of abundance that is fair & equitable to our employees and makes our clients happy.
Some days are better than others but for the most part I think we have achieved our goals. Now should I expand my goals or just keep things going as they are? That is my current question.
 

yveskleinsky

Silver Contributor
Speedway Pass
Jul 26, 2007
2,217
508
192
44
Would you regret not expanding your goals? If yes, then move forward. If no, then keeping pluggin' away doing what you're doing.
 

kimberland

Bronze Contributor
Jul 25, 2007
822
120
38
I wanted to be a rat on a wheel in a job that didn't tax me, I thought foolishly that would give me freedom and make my life easier.

I think this is almost impossible with some personality types.
Before leaving full time corporate,
I tried scaling back from my 24-7 project jobs
to a 9-5 project job
(so I could write after hours).
I couldn't do it.
I couldn't go home at 5 pm knowing that
there were improvements yet to be made,
products left to investigate.
I couldn't do "good enough."

I've since switched to summers "off"
which allows me time to write
but the fun of being swept into projects the rest of the year.
 

Sponsored Offers

  • Sticky
MARKETPLACE NEW: The Best School for Going Fastlane (Now open for summer enrollment)
Along with this I also worked on creating a Web Design book last year to help people starting...
MARKETPLACE Fox Web School "Legend" Group Coaching Program 2021
Any update? Hey bud! When I can squeeze out the time to work, it's been going pretty well...
MARKETPLACE Not sure how to start? This free book will teach you how to build a successful web design business
Hi Fox. Starting the book and got through the introduction. Had a conversation with Andy Black...
  • Sticky
MARKETPLACE You Are One Call Away From Living Your Dream Life - LightHouse’s Accountability Program ⚡
Chris is super sharp and is aware of many facets of entrepreneurship and can help get your...
  • Sticky
MARKETPLACE Lex DeVille's - Advanced Freelance Udemy Courses!
This month's promo code is MINDCONTROL Those who are subscribed to my new Youtube channel will...
  • Sticky
MARKETPLACE Entrepreneur's Toolbox: Company Formation, Virtual Mailbox, Registered Agent, Remote Online Notary
Appreciating the transparency and lack of hidden fees. The website is very up-front and user...
Introducing MJ's Personal Unscripted Network, Join Now for FREE!
Any chance to make it available outside of US? It has been available outside of the US on...

Forum Sponsor

Learn Fastlane Business Skills & Get Profitable Within 30 Days...

Get Started Now

New Topics

Fastlane Insiders

View the forum AD FREE.
Private, unindexed content
Detailed process/execution threads
Ideas needing execution, more!

Join Fastlane Insiders.

Top Bottom