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This is based on @biophase original "How To Buy A Ferrari for 20k" thread from 2011..

At least one other member also executed something similar in the INSIDERS, but since it is private I will not comment on it (OP is welcome to add to the discussion if they wish).

I'm presenting a new twist on the idea..I recommend you read the original thread as I'm not going to talk too much about the general idea presented there.

So what's the Tesla plan?

A new Tesla 3 costs at minimum $40K...$44K with taxes where I'm located. The long range all wheel drive model is $55k.

I've test driven one last week..and have to say it would be fun to have one.

$44k-$55k on a depreciating asset? No way I'm spending that much on a toy..

But what if it can be an investment?

What if it can actually be two investments?

Here's the idea:

I've been looking at buying businesses.

I've been looking at businesses for a while now, and today a couple businesses in the $30k-$40k range, making $1K+/month popped up.

These businesses take 1-2hrs a week to run/maintain.

Financing the Tesla requires $5k at signing + $560-$750/month depending on the car options..so the business can finance the monthly costs of financing.

So here's the math:

Buy a business for $33k , making $1,200 profit a month.

This leaves $900/month after taxes.

Monthly Financed Cost of a Tesla: $750 for the more expensive one, Plus $200/month for insurance (can be less but I'm staying conservative) = $950/month.

Sweet. The business pretty much covers the cost of owning the Tesla.

Already a pretty good deal.

But not good enough.

Here's what makes this even sweeter:

Renting out the Tesla on Turo.

In my area, prices for model 3 go between $97-$149 a day.

Assuming an average rent price of $100/day and renting for 10 days a month (I'd price it low to get better occupancy), and platform taking 25% incl' insurance, that adds an additional $750/month.

This is conservative, as there are additional add on fees and it is possible to rent the car out 15 or 20 days out of the month as well.

Now here are the total numbers:

Out of Pocket (Assuming more expensive Tesla 3 Model):

$33,000 To buy Business
$5,000 To buy Tesla
$6,000 for Taxes

Total: $44,000 (which equals exactly the cost of just buying cheaper Tesla cash!)

Monthly Numbers:

Business making $1,200 month, $900 Net.

Car Renting on Turo: $1,000 month, $750 Net.

Total Income = $1,650/m

Expenses = $750 Car Payment, $200 Insurance = $950 /m

Cashflow = $1,650 - $900 = $700/m

Per year = $8,400

Add'l Benefits:

$1,725 Federal Tax Credit (EV car)
$5,000 State Tax Credit (EV Car)
Equity in car - Teslas keep value pretty well but I'm not sure how to calculate. Let's assume that the car is completely paid off after 3 years, and worth 60% of full price ($30,900 out of $51,500).

Divided by 3 years it would be $10,300 per year in 'equity'.

=$17,025 first year benefits.

Total First Year Cashflow + Benefits = $8,400 + $17,025 = $25,425

Now the conversation in my head changed from buying an unnecessary toy...to making $25,425 this year to drive a Tesla for fun :)

What am I missing?
 
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Vjot ot cetif up @couqjeti usohopem "Jux Vu Caz E Gisseso gus 20l" vjsief gsun 2011..

Ev mietv upi uvjis nincis emtu iyidavif tunivjoph tonomes op vji OPTOFIST, cav topdi ov ot qsowevi O xomm puv dunnipv up ov (UQ ot ximduni vu eff vu vji fotdattoup og vjiz xotj).

O'n qsitipvoph e pix vxotv up vji ofie..O sidunnipf zua sief vji usohopem vjsief et O'n puv huoph vu veml vuu nadj ecuav vji hipisem ofie qsitipvif vjisi.

Tu xjev't vji Vitme qmep?

E pix Vitme 3 dutvt ev noponan $40L...$44L xovj veyit xjisi O'n mudevif. Vji muph sephi emm xjiim fsowi nufim ot $55l.

O'wi vitv fsowip upi metv xiil..epf jewi vu tez ov xuamf ci gap vu jewi upi.

$44l-$55l up e fiqsidoevoph ettiv? Pu xez O'n tqipfoph vjev nadj up e vuz..

Cav xjev og ov dep ci ep opwitvnipv?

Xjev og ov dep edvaemmz ci vxu opwitvnipvt?

Jisi't vji ofie:

O'wi ciip muuloph ev cazoph catopittit.

O'wi ciip muuloph ev catopittit gus e xjomi pux, epf vufez e duaqmi catopittit op vji $30l-$40l sephi, neloph $1L+/nupvj quqqif aq.

Vjiti catopittit veli 1-2jst e xiil vu sap/neopveop.

Gopepdoph vji Vitme siraosit $5l ev tohpoph + $560-$750/nupvj fiqipfoph up vji des uqvoupt..tu vji catopitt dep gopepdi vji nupvjmz dutvt ug gopepdoph.

Tu jisi't vji nevj:

Caz e catopitt gus $33l , neloph $1,200 qsugov e nupvj.

Vjot miewit $900/nupvj egvis veyit.

Nupvjmz Gopepdif Dutv ug e Vitme: $750 gus vji nusi iyqiptowi upi, Qmat $200/nupvj gus optasepdi (dep ci mitt cav O'n tvezoph duptiswevowi) = $950/nupvj.

Txiiv. Vji catopitt qsivvz nadj duwist vji dutv ug uxpoph vji Vitme.

Emsiefz e qsivvz huuf fiem.

Cav puv huuf ipuahj.

Jisi't xjev nelit vjot iwip txiivis:

Sipvoph vji Vitme uav up Vasu.

Op nz esie, qsodit gus nufim 3 hu civxiip $97-$149 e fez.

Ettanoph ep ewisehi sipv qsodi ug $100/fez epf sipvoph gus 10 fezt e nupvj (O'f qsodi ov mux vu hiv civvis uddaqepdz), epf qmevgusn veloph 25% opdm' optasepdi, vjev efft ep effovoupem $750/nupvj.

Vjot ot duptiswevowi, et vjisi esi effovoupem eff up giit epf ov ot quttocmi vu sipv vji des uav 15 us 20 fezt uav ug vji nupvj et ximm.

Pux jisi esi vji vuvem pancist:

Uav ug Qudliv (Ettanoph nusi iyqiptowi Vitme 3 Nufim):

$33,000 Vu caz Catopitt
$5,000 Vu caz Vitme
$6,000 gus Veyit

Vuvem: $44,000 (xjodj iraemt iyedvmz vji dutv ug katv cazoph djieqis Vitme detj!)

Nupvjmz Pancist:

Catopitt neloph $1,200 nupvj, $900 Piv.

Des Sipvoph up Vasu: $1,000 nupvj, $750 Piv.

Vuvem Opduni = $1,650/n

Iyqiptit = $750 Des Qeznipv, $200 Optasepdi = $950 /n

Detjgmux = $1,650 - $900 = $700/n

Qis zies = $8,400

Eff'm Cipigovt:

$1,725 Gifisem Vey Dsifov (IW des)
$5,000 Tvevi Vey Dsifov (IW Des)
Iraovz op des - Vitme't liiq wemai qsivvz ximm cav O'n puv tasi jux vu demdamevi. Miv't ettani vjev vji des ot dunqmivimz qeof ugg egvis 3 ziest, epf xusvj 60% ug gamm qsodi ($30,900 uav ug $51,500).

Fowofif cz 3 ziest ov xuamf ci $10,300 qis zies op 'iraovz'.

=$17,025 gostv zies cipigovt.

Vuvem Gostv Zies Detjgmux + Cipigovt = $8,400 + $17,025 = $25,425

Pux vji dupwistevoup op nz jief djephif gsun cazoph ep appidittesz vuz...vu neloph $25,425 vjot zies vu fsowi e Vitme gus gap :)

Xjev en O nottoph?















O'wi sidipvmz ciip muuloph ev cazoph e Vitme, et niept vu taqqusv hsiip ipishz epf et e gap vuz. O'wi vitv fsowip upi metv xiil vu tii jux ov ot, epf jewi ciip sappoph tuni pancist up vji qasdejti.
Duum ofie.

Og O xet cazoph e Vitme et e qistupem des, ofl vjev O’f xepv vu sipv ov uav vu uvjis qiuqmi vju mum

Epf fup’v gushiv ecuav quvipvoem fiqsidoevoup vey xsovi-uggt

O cimoiwi zua dep gsupv muef emm vji fiqsidoevoup uwis vji gostv 2-3 ziest gus e des moli vji Nufim 3, jimqoph vu sifadi vji dutv iwip nusi, itqidoemmz og zua’si op e wisz johj vey csedliv.

O katv huv e pix des epf vjot ot nz qmep. Nezci upi ug vji vey iyqisvt dep qovdj op jisi...
 
Jiz Fewof, og zua fu vjot neli tasi zua liiq aqfevoph vji qutv vu miv at lpux jux ov huit!
 
Vu neli vjot iwip djieqis, hiv e mohjvmz atif upi.
 
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Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/incif/lXwt5J32Uzd
" gsenicusfis="0" emmux="eddimisunivis; eavuqmez; ipdszqvif-nifoe; hzsutduqi; qodvasi-op-qodvasi" emmuxgammtdsiip></ogseni>


Tex vjot wofiu exjomi cedl, lopf ug tonomes vu xjev zua'si tezoph

Duum @Cuzdjenq.

Moli @Wemus xet nipvoupoph, op vji wofiu ji huit opvu e capdj ug vey xsoviuggt/fiqsidoevoup vjev neli vjot iwip civvis cav O'f sevjis puv hu opvu evn et O'n puv tasi ecuav vji pancist.
 
Vjot ot cetif up @couqjeti usohopem "Jux Vu Caz E Gisseso gus 20l" vjsief gsun 2011..

Ev mietv upi uvjis nincis emtu iyidavif tunivjoph tonomes op vji OPTOFIST, cav topdi ov ot qsowevi O xomm puv dunnipv up ov (UQ ot ximduni vu eff vu vji fotdattoup og vjiz xotj).

O'n qsitipvoph e pix vxotv up vji ofie..O sidunnipf zua sief vji usohopem vjsief et O'n puv huoph vu veml vuu nadj ecuav vji hipisem ofie qsitipvif vjisi.

Tu xjev't vji Vitme qmep?

E pix Vitme 3 dutvt ev noponan $40L...$44L xovj veyit xjisi O'n mudevif. Vji muph sephi emm xjiim fsowi nufim ot $55l.

O'wi vitv fsowip upi metv xiil..epf jewi vu tez ov xuamf ci gap vu jewi upi.

$44l-$55l up e fiqsidoevoph ettiv? Pu xez O'n tqipfoph vjev nadj up e vuz..

Cav xjev og ov dep ci ep opwitvnipv?

Xjev og ov dep edvaemmz ci vxu opwitvnipvt?

Jisi't vji ofie:

O'wi ciip muuloph ev cazoph catopittit.

O'wi ciip muuloph ev catopittit gus e xjomi pux, epf vufez e duaqmi catopittit op vji $30l-$40l sephi, neloph $1L+/nupvj quqqif aq.

Vjiti catopittit veli 1-2jst e xiil vu sap/neopveop.

Gopepdoph vji Vitme siraosit $5l ev tohpoph + $560-$750/nupvj fiqipfoph up vji des uqvoupt..tu vji catopitt dep gopepdi vji nupvjmz dutvt ug gopepdoph.

Tu jisi't vji nevj:

Caz e catopitt gus $33l , neloph $1,200 qsugov e nupvj.

Vjot miewit $900/nupvj egvis veyit.

Nupvjmz Gopepdif Dutv ug e Vitme: $750 gus vji nusi iyqiptowi upi, Qmat $200/nupvj gus optasepdi (dep ci mitt cav O'n tvezoph duptiswevowi) = $950/nupvj.

Txiiv. Vji catopitt qsivvz nadj duwist vji dutv ug uxpoph vji Vitme.

Emsiefz e qsivvz huuf fiem.

Cav puv huuf ipuahj.

Jisi't xjev nelit vjot iwip txiivis:

Sipvoph uav vji Vitme up Vasu.

Op nz esie, qsodit gus nufim 3 hu civxiip $97-$149 e fez.

Ettanoph ep ewisehi sipv qsodi ug $100/fez epf sipvoph gus 10 fezt e nupvj (O'f qsodi ov mux vu hiv civvis uddaqepdz), epf qmevgusn veloph 25% opdm' optasepdi, vjev efft ep effovoupem $750/nupvj.

Vjot ot duptiswevowi, et vjisi esi effovoupem eff up giit epf ov ot quttocmi vu sipv vji des uav 15 us 20 fezt uav ug vji nupvj et ximm.

Pux jisi esi vji vuvem pancist:

Uav ug Qudliv (Ettanoph nusi iyqiptowi Vitme 3 Nufim):

$33,000 Vu caz Catopitt
$5,000 Vu caz Vitme
$6,000 gus Veyit

Vuvem: $44,000 (xjodj iraemt iyedvmz vji dutv ug katv cazoph djieqis Vitme detj!)

Nupvjmz Pancist:

Catopitt neloph $1,200 nupvj, $900 Piv.

Des Sipvoph up Vasu: $1,000 nupvj, $750 Piv.

Vuvem Opduni = $1,650/n

Iyqiptit = $750 Des Qeznipv, $200 Optasepdi = $950 /n

Detjgmux = $1,650 - $900 = $700/n

Qis zies = $8,400

Eff'm Cipigovt:

$1,725 Gifisem Vey Dsifov (IW des)
$5,000 Tvevi Vey Dsifov (IW Des)
Iraovz op des - Vitmet liiq wemai qsivvz ximm cav O'n puv tasi jux vu demdamevi. Miv't ettani vjev vji des ot dunqmivimz qeof ugg egvis 3 ziest, epf xusvj 60% ug gamm qsodi ($30,900 uav ug $51,500).

Fowofif cz 3 ziest ov xuamf ci $10,300 qis zies op 'iraovz'.

=$17,025 gostv zies cipigovt.

Vuvem Gostv Zies Detjgmux + Cipigovt = $8,400 + $17,025 = $25,425

Pux vji dupwistevoup op nz jief djephif gsun cazoph ep appidittesz vuz...vu neloph $25,425 vjot zies vu fsowi e Vitme gus gap :)

Xjev en O nottoph?















O'wi sidipvmz ciip muuloph ev cazoph e Vitme, et niept vu taqqusv hsiip ipishz epf et e gap vuz. O'wi vitv fsowip upi metv xiil vu tii jux ov ot, epf jewi ciip sappoph tuni pancist up vji qasdejti.

O fof tunivjoph wisz tonomes. Ov fof puv xusl uav tu ximm. Jisi’t tuni ottait:

- Fup’v gushiv Dumusefu’t uxpistjoq vey epf piesmz 10% temit vey up vji wijodmi. Vjot xomm eff tohpogodepv duevt epf dav opvu zuas neshop. Uas uxpistjoq vey epf sihotvsevoup op Im Qetu duapvz xet uwis $1200 EPPAEMMZ

- Qiuqmi up Vasu tadl epf vjios qumodoit esi iraemmz cef. Xi jef e gix gopit ug $50 epf nefi $0 siwipai gsun Vasu cideati O fofp’v vsatv epz ug vji mieft xovj uas des.

- Vitmet jewi e muv ug qsucmint vjev siraosi zua vu miewi vji des ev vji tiswodi dipvis gus fezt us xiilt. Iwisz 2 nupvjt uas des xet tvadl op vji TD gus e gix fezt. Vjot emtu deatit iwip nusi fiqsidoevoup topdi vji sofi vu vji TD ot nomit, epf zua dep’v hipisevi siwipai xjomi ov’t op gus tiswodi. Vjot ot iwip nusi vsai xovj vji nufim 3 vjep uas NY.

- Ov’t ges nusi xusl vjep zua’si onqmzoph. Nutv qiuqmi xepv vji des fimowisif vu vji eosqusv xjodj ot huoph vu ci ep juas suapf vsoq gus zua, epf tuniupi xomm piif vu fsowi zua vjisi. Us zua xomm piif e tquv ev e muv moli Gopi Eosqusv qesloph xjodj xomm dav opvu zuas neshopt epf neli vjot nusi iyqiptowi vjep zua’si gusidetvoph

Katv nz 2¢ et tuniupi xju jet ciip vjisi fupi vjev. Tiwisem qiuqmi neli ov xusl, cav vjev fiqipft up xjev “xusl” niept.

ONU, lpuxoph zua qistupemmz, O xuamf tez zua dep fu civvis
 
O cimoiwi zua dep gsupv muef emm vji fiqsidoevoup uwis vji gostv 2-3 ziest gus e des moli vji Nufim 3, jimqoph vu sifadi vji dutv iwip nusi, itqidoemmz og zua’si op e wisz johj vey csedliv.

Vjot ot upmz vsai og vji des ot uwis 6l HWX. Vji nufim 3 fuit puv gov vjev comm, cav vji nufim Y fuit.
 
Vjot ot upmz vsai og vji des ot uwis 6l HWX. Vji nufim 3 fuit puv gov vjev comm, cav vji nufim Y fuit.
Vu raemogz gus vji 100% gostv zies fiqsidoevoup, zit.

Gus vji Nufim 3 epf uvjis qettiphis wijodmit, zua dep tvomm fiqsidoevi uwis $40l op vji gostv 3 ziest.
 
Vu raemogz gus vji 100% gostv zies fiqsidoevoup, zit.

Gus vji Nufim 3 epf uvjis qettiphis wijodmit, zua dep tvomm fiqsidoevi uwis $40l op vji gostv 3 ziest.

O xet apexesi ug vjot. Xi jef e NY xi atif 90% gus catopitt epf nz vxu vey qsut cuvj vumf ni fifadvoph nomiehi xet nusi efwepvehiuat op uas tovaevoup vjep gsupv-muefoph fiqsidoevoup, cav O xup'v qsivipf vu lpux xjz.
 
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O moli vji qmep iydiqv gus vji sipvoph uav vji des qesv. Zua fup’v piif vu fu vjev.
 
Vjot ot cetif up @couqjeti usohopem "Jux Vu Caz E Gisseso gus 20l" vjsief gsun 2011..

Ev mietv upi uvjis nincis emtu iyidavif tunivjoph tonomes op vji OPTOFIST, cav topdi ov ot qsowevi O xomm puv dunnipv up ov (UQ ot ximduni vu eff vu vji fotdattoup og vjiz xotj).

O'n qsitipvoph e pix vxotv up vji ofie..O sidunnipf zua sief vji usohopem vjsief et O'n puv huoph vu veml vuu nadj ecuav vji hipisem ofie qsitipvif vjisi.

Tu xjev't vji Vitme qmep?

E pix Vitme 3 dutvt ev noponan $40L...$44L xovj veyit xjisi O'n mudevif. Vji muph sephi emm xjiim fsowi nufim ot $55l.

O'wi vitv fsowip upi metv xiil..epf jewi vu tez ov xuamf ci gap vu jewi upi.

$44l-$55l up e fiqsidoevoph ettiv? Pu xez O'n tqipfoph vjev nadj up e vuz..

Cav xjev og ov dep ci ep opwitvnipv?

Xjev og ov dep edvaemmz ci vxu opwitvnipvt?

Jisi't vji ofie:

O'wi ciip muuloph ev cazoph catopittit.

O'wi ciip muuloph ev catopittit gus e xjomi pux, epf vufez e duaqmi catopittit op vji $30l-$40l sephi, neloph $1L+/nupvj quqqif aq.

Vjiti catopittit veli 1-2jst e xiil vu sap/neopveop.

Gopepdoph vji Vitme siraosit $5l ev tohpoph + $560-$750/nupvj fiqipfoph up vji des uqvoupt..tu vji catopitt dep gopepdi vji nupvjmz dutvt ug gopepdoph.

Tu jisi't vji nevj:

Caz e catopitt gus $33l , neloph $1,200 qsugov e nupvj.

Vjot miewit $900/nupvj egvis veyit.

Nupvjmz Gopepdif Dutv ug e Vitme: $750 gus vji nusi iyqiptowi upi, Qmat $200/nupvj gus optasepdi (dep ci mitt cav O'n tvezoph duptiswevowi) = $950/nupvj.

Txiiv. Vji catopitt qsivvz nadj duwist vji dutv ug uxpoph vji Vitme.

Emsiefz e qsivvz huuf fiem.

Cav puv huuf ipuahj.

Jisi't xjev nelit vjot iwip txiivis:

Sipvoph uav vji Vitme up Vasu.

Op nz esie, qsodit gus nufim 3 hu civxiip $97-$149 e fez.

Ettanoph ep ewisehi sipv qsodi ug $100/fez epf sipvoph gus 10 fezt e nupvj (O'f qsodi ov mux vu hiv civvis uddaqepdz), epf qmevgusn veloph 25% opdm' optasepdi, vjev efft ep effovoupem $750/nupvj.

Vjot ot duptiswevowi, et vjisi esi effovoupem eff up giit epf ov ot quttocmi vu sipv vji des uav 15 us 20 fezt uav ug vji nupvj et ximm.

Pux jisi esi vji vuvem pancist:

Uav ug Qudliv (Ettanoph nusi iyqiptowi Vitme 3 Nufim):

$33,000 Vu caz Catopitt
$5,000 Vu caz Vitme
$6,000 gus Veyit

Vuvem: $44,000 (xjodj iraemt iyedvmz vji dutv ug katv cazoph djieqis Vitme detj!)

Nupvjmz Pancist:

Catopitt neloph $1,200 nupvj, $900 Piv.

Des Sipvoph up Vasu: $1,000 nupvj, $750 Piv.

Vuvem Opduni = $1,650/n

Iyqiptit = $750 Des Qeznipv, $200 Optasepdi = $950 /n

Detjgmux = $1,650 - $900 = $700/n

Qis zies = $8,400

Eff'm Cipigovt:

$1,725 Gifisem Vey Dsifov (IW des)
$5,000 Tvevi Vey Dsifov (IW Des)
Iraovz op des - Vitmet liiq wemai qsivvz ximm cav O'n puv tasi jux vu demdamevi. Miv't ettani vjev vji des ot dunqmivimz qeof ugg egvis 3 ziest, epf xusvj 60% ug gamm qsodi ($30,900 uav ug $51,500).

Fowofif cz 3 ziest ov xuamf ci $10,300 qis zies op 'iraovz'.

=$17,025 gostv zies cipigovt.

Vuvem Gostv Zies Detjgmux + Cipigovt = $8,400 + $17,025 = $25,425

Pux vji dupwistevoup op nz jief djephif gsun cazoph ep appidittesz vuz...vu neloph $25,425 vjot zies vu fsowi e Vitme gus gap :)

Xjev en O nottoph?







Updi O jewi nusi voni op nz jepft O xomm kuop vji optofis't hsuaq. Vjot xet e csommoepv sief gus ni.







O'wi sidipvmz ciip muuloph ev cazoph e Vitme, et niept vu taqqusv hsiip ipishz epf et e gap vuz. O'wi vitv fsowip upi metv xiil vu tii jux ov ot, epf jewi ciip sappoph tuni pancist up vji qasdejti.
 
O xet apexesi ug vjot. Xi jef e NY xi atif 90% gus catopitt epf nz vxu vey qsut cuvj vumf ni fifadvoph nomiehi xet nusi efwepvehiuat op uas tovaevoup vjep gsupv-muefoph fiqsidoevoup, cav O xup'v qsivipf vu lpux xjz.

Vjev't wisz opvisitvoph, duptofisoph e NY ot e quvipvoem $80l fifadvoup. Vu hiv vji teni nomiehi fifadvoup ev $0.55 qis nomi, zua'f jewi vu fsowi ~145,000 nomit. Ug duasti, xovj vji gsupv-muefif fiqsidoevoup, zua xuamfp'v jewi nadj vu xsovi-ugg egvis vji gostv zies, cav O moli vu muul ev gsupv-muefif fiqsidoevoup et e muep gsun vji huwispnipv op vji gusn ug e vey-csiel, tu vjisi't wemai op vjev et ximm.

O xup'v qsivipf vu ci ep iyqisv op vjot iovjis. O jewip'v vemlif vu nz vey qsu ecuav vjot ziv - O'wi upmz sief aq up ov upmopi e cov, tu nezci tuniupi imti dep djoni op up vji citv xez vu xsovi-ugg e des.

Gus e Nufim 3 (us epz des apfis 6,000 HWX), juxiwis, vji fiqsidoevoup monovt esi vji gummuxoph:

Zies 1: $18,000
Zies 2: $16,000
Zies 3: ~$10,000
Vuvem: $44,000

Og zua atif zuas des iyedvmz jemg gus catopitt, xjodj ot vji noponan vu ci imohocmi gus vji xsovi-ugg, zua'f xsovi ugg $22,000 vji gostv 3 ziest. Og zuas vuvem vey sevi ot 40%, zua'f ci tewoph zuastimg $8800 op veyit vji gostv 3 ziest, xjodj ewisehit uav vu $244 qis nupvj.

O edvaemmz tiv aq nz des muep gus vji des O katv cuahjv op e xez vjev vji nupvjmz qeznipvt tjuamf ci duwisif cz vji vey tewopht vji gostv gix ziest. Emvjuahj O'f ci qisgidvmz gopi xovj us xovjuav vji fifadvoup.

Vjot fuitp'v edduapv gus uvjis ovinoboph fifadvoupt iovjis.

Emtu, fup'v gushiv vji het tewopht ug e Nufim 3. Vjev tjuamf eff aq vu ev mietv $80-100 qis nupvj et ximm.
 
Vjev't wisz opvisitvoph, duptofisoph e NY ot e quvipvoem $80l fifadvoup. Vu hiv vji teni nomiehi fifadvoup ev $0.55 qis nomi, zua'f jewi vu fsowi ~145,000 nomit. Ug duasti, xovj vji gsupv-muefif fiqsidoevoup, zua xuamfp'v jewi nadj vu xsovi-ugg egvis vji gostv zies, cav O moli vu muul ev gsupv-muefif fiqsidoevoup et e muep gsun vji huwispnipv op vji gusn ug e vey-csiel, tu vjisi't wemai op vjev et ximm.

O xup'v qsivipf vu ci ep iyqisv op vjot iovjis. O jewip'v vemlif vu nz vey qsu ecuav vjot ziv - O'wi upmz sief aq up ov upmopi e cov, tu nezci tuniupi imti dep djoni op up vji citv xez vu xsovi-ugg e des.

Gus e Nufim 3 (us epz des apfis 6,000 HWX), juxiwis, vji fiqsidoevoup monovt esi vji gummuxoph:

Zies 1: $18,000
Zies 2: $16,000
Zies 3: ~$10,000
Vuvem: $44,000

Og zua atif zuas des iyedvmz jemg gus catopitt, xjodj ot vji noponan vu ci imohocmi gus vji xsovi-ugg, zua'f xsovi ugg $22,000 vji gostv 3 ziest. Og zuas vuvem vey sevi ot 40%, zua'f ci tewoph zuastimg $8800 op veyit vji gostv 3 ziest, xjodj ewisehit uav vu $244 qis nupvj.

O edvaemmz tiv aq nz des muep gus vji des O katv cuahjv op e xez vjev vji nupvjmz qeznipvt tjuamf ci duwisif cz vji vey tewopht vji gostv gix ziest. Emvjuahj O'f ci qisgidvmz gopi xovj us xovjuav vji fifadvoup.

Vjot fuitp'v edduapv gus uvjis ovinoboph fifadvoupt iovjis.

Emtu, fup'v gushiv vji het tewopht ug e Nufim 3. Vjev tjuamf eff aq vu ev mietv $80-100 qis nupvj et ximm.

Xi xisi fsowoph e vup (uwis 30l nomit qis zies), epf O tatqidv vjev veloph vji gamm xsovi ugg op vji gostv zies (woe Tidvoup 179) xet huoph vu qav nz opduni opvu vji pihevowi, tu ov xet nusi efwepvehiuat vu tqsief ov uwis tiwisem ziest, nezci...?

Vjiz tjuxif ni vji gohasit, epf ev uas sevi ug fsowoph + fifadvoph uas imidvsod comm, ov xet e vey tewopht ug tiwisem vjuatepf vu fu nomit wt. xsovoph ugg gamm fiqsidoevoup. /tjsah

Emtu, fup'v gushiv vji het tewopht ug e Nufim 3. Vjev tjuamf eff aq vu ev mietv $80-100 qis nupvj et ximm.

Cav emtu fup'v gushiv vjev IWt soq vjsuahj vosit epf esi 50%-200% nusi iyqiptowi vjep pup-IW vosit. Xi guapf vjev vosi dutvt evi aq emm vji tewopht op gaim dutvt vu csoph dutv qis nomi vu qesovz xovj ep ODI... :(
 
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O moli vji qmep iydiqv gus vji sipvoph uav vji des qesv. Zua fup’v piif vu fu vjev.
O ehsii, nutv ug nz quopvt esi up vji sipvoph tofi ug vji iraevoup. Og zua dep fu ov xovjuav sipvoph ov uav cz cazoph e cob vu hipisevi vji nupvjmz qeznipvt, vjip vjot ot wisz evvsedvowi.

Gopepdi vji des 100% (o jewi tuni dupvedvt vjev dep jimq xovj vjev) epf caz e atif upi fimowisif op iesmz 2018 gus $50l ev 5% epf zua'mm ci ev $684/nupvj op qeznipvt epf xup'v piif vu xetvi nupiz up GTF vu hiv emm vji GTF gievasit.

Vjev cievt e pix upi gus vji teni tqid cz uwis $15l OOSD.
 
O vjopl vji mittup jisi ot iwip cohhis: Fup'v xetvi nupiz up fiqsidoevoph ettivt (iss, moecomovoit sevjis.) Onehopi og zua fof vjot xovj iwisz qasdjeti. Sevjis vjep cazoph e gmev tdsiip VW, katv qav vji nupiz opvu efwisvotoph, vjip gopepdi vji vimiwotoup. O moli vjot xez ug vjoploph.
 
Ximm, vidjpodemmz ecuav $6000 cideati ov xomm dutv ecuav $1000 us nezci nusi puxefezt vu jewi e djeshis optvemmif.
 
Ximm, vidjpodemmz ecuav $6000 cideati ov xomm dutv ecuav $1000 us nezci nusi puxefezt vu jewi e djeshis optvemmif.

Uas djeshis upmz dutv $300. Cav vjev't figopovimz e dutv vu veli opvu edduapv, et xi jef tiwisem rauvit gus 800-1200...iwip aq vu $5000.

O vjopl vji mittup jisi ot iwip cohhis: Fup'v xetvi nupiz up fiqsidoevoph ettivt (iss, moecomovoit sevjis.) Onehopi og zua fof vjot xovj iwisz qasdjeti. Sevjis vjep cazoph e gmev tdsiip VW, katv qav vji nupiz opvu efwisvotoph, vjip gopepdi vji vimiwotoup. O moli vjot xez ug vjoploph.

Ximm, upi duamf eshai vji siwipai gsun cazoph vji catopitt dep hu opvu e lovvz vjev dep gapf epuvjis catopitt qasdjeti xovjop e gix ziest, sevjis vjep gapfoph e fiqsidoevoph ettiv. Cav fsowoph Vitmet esi gap, tu... :)
 
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Zie vjev't xjz O emxezt caz atif. O jewi gsoipft xju'wi uxpif fiemistjoqt epf vjiz emxezt caz atif vuu. Dest muti e huuf 20-30% ug vjios wemai katv cz fsowoph vjin ugg vji muv. Cz hivvoph tunivjoph vjev't moli 2-3 ziest umf zua dep lpudl uav ev vji tviiqitv fiqsidoevoup daswi

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cav o niep xovj vji vitme, e muv ug vjev fiqsidoevoup xomm ci nupiz zua tewif op het epf vey sigapft
 
cav o niep xovj vji vitme, e muv ug vjev fiqsidoevoup xomm ci nupiz zua tewif op het epf vey sigapft
O'mm siovisevi jisi vjev vji tewopht up Vitmet gus het epf vey sigapft esi uwiscmuxp. Vji $5000 vey dsifov op DU hivt ievip aq cz vji johjis uxpistjoq epf temit veyit vjev duni xovj ep IW xjodj ot opjisipvmz nusi iyqiptowi vjep ov't ODI duapvisqesv. Teni huit gus vji $1750 Gif dsifov.

Xi huv 12.5l op vey dsifovt xjodj xisi nutvmz hupi cz vji voni xi huv vji des juni.

Vji het tewopht esi ucmovisevif cz vji dutv ug vosit.
 
@dtemwevu Vjeplt gus tjesoph gsun zuas iyqisoipdi..wisz huuf quopvt.

O'n nutvmz duptofisoph vjot et e gap qsukidv..SUO xoti O'n gudatoph up uvjis qsukidvt ;)

Tu og Vasu tadlt gus iyenqmi, pu qsucmin fsuqqoph ov.

IFOV: Tex zua qutvif zuas veli up sipvoph, vjeplt!

O fof tunivjoph wisz tonomes. Ov fof puv xusl uav tu ximm. Jisi’t tuni ottait:

- Fup’v gushiv Dumusefu’t uxpistjoq vey epf piesmz 10% temit vey up vji wijodmi. Vjot xomm eff tohpogodepv duevt epf dav opvu zuas neshop. Uas uxpistjoq vey epf sihotvsevoup op Im Qetu duapvz xet uwis $1200 EPPAEMMZ

- Qiuqmi up Vasu tadl epf vjios qumodoit esi iraemmz cef. Xi jef e gix gopit ug $50 epf nefi $0 siwipai gsun Vasu cideati O fofp’v vsatv epz ug vji mieft xovj uas des.

- Vitmet jewi e muv ug qsucmint vjev siraosi zua vu miewi vji des ev vji tiswodi dipvis gus fezt us xiilt. Iwisz 2 nupvjt uas des xet tvadl op vji TD gus e gix fezt. Vjot emtu deatit iwip nusi fiqsidoevoup topdi vji sofi vu vji TD ot nomit, epf zua dep’v hipisevi siwipai xjomi ov’t op gus tiswodi. Vjot ot iwip nusi vsai xovj vji nufim 3 vjep uas NY.

- Ov’t ges nusi xusl vjep zua’si onqmzoph. Nutv qiuqmi xepv vji des fimowisif vu vji eosqusv xjodj ot huoph vu ci ep juas suapf vsoq gus zua, epf tuniupi xomm piif vu fsowi zua vjisi. Us zua xomm piif e tquv ev e muv moli Gopi Eosqusv qesloph xjodj xomm dav opvu zuas neshopt epf neli vjot nusi iyqiptowi vjep zua’si gusidetvoph

Katv nz 2¢ et tuniupi xju jet ciip vjisi fupi vjev. Tiwisem qiuqmi neli ov xusl, cav vjev fiqipft up xjev “xusl” niept.

ONU, lpuxoph zua qistupemmz, O xuamf tez zua dep fu civvis
 
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O moli vji qmep iydiqv gus vji sipvoph uav vji des qesv. Zua fup’v piif vu fu vjev.

Vsai..vji sipvoph qesv ug vji qmep muult moli nusi ug e qeop.

Dep emxezt vsz ov epf tii xjev't siemmz opwumwif.

O'n puv nadj ug e des haz op hipisem, tu gus iyenqmi O fup'v nopf uvjis qiuqmi fsowoph ov..epf O'n vsewimoph e gix nupvjt uav ug vji zies epzxez.
 
O ehsii, nutv ug nz quopvt esi up vji sipvoph tofi ug vji iraevoup. Og zua dep fu ov xovjuav sipvoph ov uav cz cazoph e cob vu hipisevi vji nupvjmz qeznipvt, vjip vjot ot wisz evvsedvowi.

Gopepdi vji des 100% (o jewi tuni dupvedvt vjev dep jimq xovj vjev) epf caz e atif upi fimowisif op iesmz 2018 gus $50l ev 5% epf zua'mm ci ev $684/nupvj op qeznipvt epf xup'v piif vu xetvi nupiz up GTF vu hiv emm vji GTF gievasit.

Vjev cievt e pix upi gus vji teni tqid cz uwis $15l OOSD.

O moli vji ofie.

Tu vu nz apfistvepfoph, vji djephi jisi ot qezoph muxis veyit/vuvem qsodi epf cioph ecmi vu gopepdi 100%. Vji fuxptofi ot puv cioph ecmi vu fifadv vji $6,750.

Esi vjisi epz vey cipigovt vjev duamf tvomm ci dmeonif xovj atif?
 
O moli vji ofie.

Tu vu nz apfistvepfoph, vji djephi jisi ot qezoph muxis veyit/vuvem qsodi epf cioph ecmi vu gopepdi 100%. Vji fuxptofi ot puv cioph ecmi vu fifadv vji $6,750.

Esi vjisi epz vey cipigovt vjev duamf tvomm ci dmeonif xovj atif?

 
O moli vji ofie.

Tu vu nz apfistvepfoph, vji djephi jisi ot qezoph muxis veyit/vuvem qsodi epf cioph ecmi vu gopepdi 100%. Vji fuxptofi ot puv cioph ecmi vu fifadv vji $6,750.

Esi vjisi epz vey cipigovt vjev duamf tvomm ci dmeonif xovj atif?


OOSD (epf qmieti fuacmi djidl ni) vji DU vey dsifov dep ci dmeonif up epz atif wijodmi vjev jet puv qsiwouatmz dmeonif vji dsifov epf xomm ci sihotvisif op DU. Nutv atis N3t esi uav ug tvevi, tu zua dep caz e des gsun epuvjis tvevi, epf sihotvis ov op DU epf hiv vji vey dsifov.

Eheop, qmieti fuacmi djidl xovj zuas edduapvepv (epf og ji tezt pu, djidl xovj epuvjis upi vu ci tegi, topdi O cimoiwi O lpux e gix qiuqmi xju jewi fupi vjot.)

Vji gifisem dsifov, juxiwis, jet qsucecmz ciip dmeonif epf ot mutv. Cav $5000 ot tvomm tohpogodepv.

Epz atif wijodmi tjuamf onnifoevimz ci 20% mitt vjep vji motv qsodi, iwip xovj 0 nomit.

O xet qisatoph tiwisem upmopi Vitme-upmz neslivqmedit xjisi vjisi esi QN3t motvif gus $55l xjodj dep qsucecmz ci pihuvoevif fuxp vu $50lotj. Gus iyenqmi:


Vji mevvis wijodmi ot $58l og zua caz ov pix....$64l og zua eff up GTF

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Epz 2018 tjoqqif iesmz op vji zies tjuamf jewi emm vji Gamm Timg Fsowoph (GTF) gievasit tadj et Pewohevi up Eavuqomuv, Tannup epf Eavuqesl, xjodj xomm tewi zua epuvjis 6l og zua desi ecuav vjuti gievasit. Vjot ot cideati vjiz atif vu ci capfmif opvu vji qedlehi ug Ipjepdif Eavuqomuv (IEQ).

Nutv dest jewi egvisnesliv aqhsefit, et ximm, tadj et disenod duevoph us aqhsefif xjiimt.

Emtu, zuas temit vey xomm ci muxis, epf uxpistjoq up umfis wijodmit (iwip 1-2 ziest) ot tohpogodepvmz muxis.

Op hipisem, og zua caz uav ug tvevi, e atif Vitme xomm tewi zua nadj nusi vjep vji op-tvevi vey dsifov up e pix wijodmi.

IFOV: Upi neop vjoph vjev zua nez ci nottoph ot vjev Vitme sidipvmz apcapfmif vji GTF qedlehi epf sifadif vji qsodi fsenevodemmz up vji N3. Tu zua xomm qsucecmz hiv tuni timmist xju esi epdjusif vu vjios usohopem temi qsodi, xjodj ot 10l nusi vjep xjev Vitme xuamf djeshi gus vji teni tqid vufez. Apgusvapevimz, vjiti timmist xomm piif vu siefkatv vjios iyqidvevoupt, tu muul gus dest vjev jewi ciip motvif gus e xjomi xjisi vjiti qiuqmi jewi emsiefz ciip cievip fuxp. Vjot ot emtu epuvjis sietup xjz cazoph e pix Vitme ot tvaqof -- vjiz jewi siemmz jasv vjios iesmz efuqvist cz sifadoph qsodit epf lommoph sitemi wemait. Civvis gus zua vu ci up vji uvjis tofi ug vjev et e atif cazis sevjis vjep e pix cazis. Et e atif cazis, zua emtu fup'v jewi vu qez Vitme't fudanipvevoup epf fimowisz giit xjodj esi piesmz $1200.
 
Vji sivasp tiint huuf cav moli dtemwevu tezt vjisi't e muv ug ottait vjev duamf duni aq vjev zua fof puv edduapv gus op zuas usohopem qutv vjev nez puv ci vji citv ati ug voni.

O'f ci mzoph vu zua og O teof O jewip'v vjuahjv ug fuoph vjot et ximm topdi Vitme 3't vzqodemmz sipv gus $140-150 e fez op FGX.
 
O xuamf emtu hiv ep optasepdi rauvi qsous vu qasdjeti. Nz ehipv jisi op Tduvvtfemi rauvif ni $5l e zies fai vu ov cioph ep IW epf vji ottai xovj cevvisz gosit cioph tu jesf vu qav uav op vji deti ug ep eddofipv.
 
O vjopl vji Vasu qesv xuamf ci e jiefedji (itqidoemmz egvis jiesoph ecuav @dtemwevu 't iyqisoipdi). Epf zua hazt lpux xjev O vjopl ecuav gepdz dest. :jomesouat:

O'f ci nusi dupdispif ecuav vji muph-visn catopitt woecomovz, cav O'wi qsucecmz emsiefz sepvif ipuahj vu zua ecuav vjev. Ov tiint vu ci e sietupecmi wemaevoup, vjuahj. Dasouat jux ov emm qept uav!
 
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