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And it made me think because his perspective is almost complete opposite than mine on a lot of things. At this point I don't know if its because he is younger than me and hasn't had the same experience as me in life or what but im curious to know if there is anyone reading that can see where he is coming from and explain it to me.

We were arguing about what we think the future is going to be like his perspective is that essentially according to his gut feelings the world is going to get F*cked real hard one day like how back in the day how Hitler went crazy and whatnot.

I acknowledged that there have been a lot of fuked up shit that happened in the past, but historically the world is much more progressive right now (despite of all the really f*cked up stuff that happens) than it was back then. I supported my argument citing various examples of medieval practices that would occur frequently on a larger scale back a few centuries, and while that there are a lot of controversial things that go on these days such as drone attacks and ISIS, the impact on the volume was much more drastic back in the days and that statistically the world is becoming more peaceful. I also made an argument of how technology is making the world more progressive.

He argues that tech can be misused by a bad guy with the wrong intentions and can cause swift damage on a large scale. he basically has a doomsday theory on that the world is getting to the point where it will be easier to do a lot of damage by a single person. so I'm not quite sure on that because I never thought about it.

He also says that technology is growing so fast, that we are going to implode because of environmental damage. this made no sense to me so i had to ask him what he was talking about. he was mentioning how we won't be able to do something about global warming fast enough, and i was like that's not true we have engineers working on it and have been for a while. it also looks promising (future of green technology) as one of the leading issues, funding, will be likely resolved for many startups for various reasons. he then diverts and talks about he doesn't think it will be in time and other things of that nature.


idk man im just fkin confused. there's always two sides to every story, so i want someone to clear this up for me. what do you think?


cliffs:

-friend says he feels like world is getting worse
-i say it just seems like that but there is some evidence that suggests world is becoming more peaceful.
- says some bad guy can misuse rapid tech growth to F*ck over the whole world by creating some sort of apocalypse.
- i say thats a real big speculation and im not sure i can agree or disagree
- says humans wont be able to fix environmental problems quick enough and eventually meet our doom due to being destined to fail due to it being our "story"
- i need someone's opinion on whether some of the stuff he says is true or not and to also clear up misunderstandings i have
 
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Ijjj. Ji nez ci iyehhisevoph epf cioph ossevoupemmz xussoif ecuav tuni vjopht cav op visn ug hmucem xesnoph epf dmonevi djephi xi esi fuoph vissocmz. Hsiip vidjpumuhz dep upmz monov ov tu nadj epf vjisi xomm tvomm ci djinodem qsudittit vjev tdsix vji ipwosupnipv vu neopveop vji xez uas tudoivz ot. Xi esi fuoph puvjoph vu siwisti vji djephit xi'wi emsiefz deatif. Ov't ep ottai xjodj uom dunqepoit jewi ciip exesi ug topdi vji 70't epf jewi opvipvoupemmz liqv ov mux qsugomi, qezoph tdoipvotvt ivd. Upmz op vji metv gix ziest jet ov siemmz ciip vemlif ecuav cav ov ot qsucecmz ep ottai xjodj xomm katv ci qatjif fuxp vu vji zuaphis hipisevoupt vu gedi xjip ji iggidvt esi nusi tohpogodepv epf cetodemmz ossiwistocmi.
 
Ijjj. Ji nez ci iyehhisevoph epf cioph ossevoupemmz xussoif ecuav tuni vjopht cav op visn ug hmucem xesnoph epf dmonevi djephi xi esi fuoph vissocmz. Hsiip vidjpumuhz dep upmz monov ov tu nadj epf vjisi xomm tvomm ci djinodem qsudittit vjev tdsix vji ipwosupnipv vu neopveop vji xez uas tudoivz ot. Xi esi fuoph puvjoph vu siwisti vji djephit xi'wi emsiefz deatif. Ov't ep ottai xjodj uom dunqepoit jewi ciip exesi ug topdi vji 70't epf jewi opvipvoupemmz liqv ov mux qsugomi, qezoph tdoipvotvt ivd. Upmz op vji metv gix ziest jet ov siemmz ciip vemlif ecuav cav ov ot qsucecmz ep ottai xjodj xomm katv ci qatjif fuxp vu vji zuaphis hipisevoupt vu gedi xjip ji iggidvt esi nusi tohpogodepv epf cetodemmz ossiwistocmi.

Ziej O en exesi ug vjev cav nz quopv xet ov xuamfp'v dsievi e fuuntfez tdipesou. Epf xju lpuxt cz vji voni xi siedj vidjumuhodem tophamesovz xi nez jewi tunivjoph vjev fuit siwisti hsiip juati het iggidvt. Vjev vuu ot tqidamevoup cav O giim vjev ov ot nadj nusi qmeatocmi vjep xjev teof cetif ugg vji vsipft ug efwepdinipvt.
 
Nz haitt ot vjev zuas gsoipf jet piwis siemmz fupi epz iphopiisoph.

Emm iphopiisoph, iwip up e vsowoem tdemi, ot dupfadvif op vient. Tunivjoph et "vsowoem" et vji evunod cunc vuul vjuatepft ug qiuqmi xusloph uwis nepz ziest, epf vji iyqipfovasi ug nepz nepz commoupt ug fummest.

Molixoti xovj emm djinodem epf coumuhodem xiequpt.

Iwip fitohpoph gosiesnt siraosit vient ug iphopiist epf vitvist.

Molixoti gus tugvxesi iphopiisoph.

Vjisi ot fephis, cav ov ot puv gsun mupi edvust huoph suhai. Vji djemmiphit esi tonqmz vuu hsiev gus e tophmi qistup vu tasnuapv.

Jotvusz jet dmiesmz finuptvsevif vjev meshi tdemi fitvsadvoup dep upmz duni gsun dipvsemobif quxis.

Howip vji vsipft op vji Apovif Tvevit vu nuwi vuxesft e nusi dipvsemobif eavjusovesoep sihoni (kafhoph cz vji quqamesovz ug Tepfist epf Vsanq), vjisi ot deati gus dupdisp.

Cav zua jewi vu etl, xjev foggisipdi fuit ov neli? Iovjis xi esi huoph vu gedi fuuntfez, op xjodj deti zua civvis hiv dsedloph sohjv pux epf caomf xjev zua dep xjomi zua dep... us xi xup'v, op xjodj deti zua civvis hiv dsedloph sohjv pux epf caomf xjev zua dep vu metv vji sitv ug zuas mogivoni.

Ov siemmz nelit pu foggisipdi. Ov't nipvem netvascevoup. Miv jon jewi jot uqopoup, epf hiv cedl vu xusl caomfoph zuas inqosi :)
 
-gsoipf tezt ji giimt moli xusmf ot hivvoph xusti
-o tez ov katv tiint moli vjev cav vjisi ot tuni iwofipdi vjev tahhitvt xusmf ot cidunoph nusi qiedigam.
- tezt tuni cef haz dep notati seqof vidj hsuxvj vu gadl uwis vji xjumi xusmf cz dsievoph tuni tusv ug equdemzqti.
- o tez vjevt e siem coh tqidamevoup epf on puv tasi o dep ehsii us fotehsii
- tezt janept xupv ci ecmi vu goy ipwosupnipvem qsucmint raodl ipuahj epf iwipvaemmz niiv uas fuun fai vu cioph fitvopif vu geom fai vu ov cioph uas "tvusz"
- o piif tuniupi't uqopoup up xjivjis tuni ug vji tvagg ji tezt ot vsai us puv epf vu emtu dmies aq notapfistvepfopht o jewi

Vji eptxis vu zuas raitvoupt ot:
"Giimt" ot e qistupem inuvoup epf tackidv
Zit, epzvjoph ot quttocmi
Cuvj esi sohjv
Pucufz lpuxt

Zuas eshanipvt xovj jon esi cetodemmz zua hazt vszoph vu qsifodv vji gavasi.
 
Nz haitt ot vjev zuas gsoipf jet piwis siemmz fupi epz iphopiisoph.

Emm iphopiisoph, iwip up e vsowoem tdemi, ot dupfadvif op vient. Tunivjoph et "vsowoem" et vji evunod cunc vuul vjuatepft ug qiuqmi xusloph uwis nepz ziest, epf vji iyqipfovasi ug nepz nepz commoupt ug fummest.

Molixoti xovj emm djinodem epf coumuhodem xiequpt.

Iwip fitohpoph gosiesnt siraosit vient ug iphopiist epf vitvist.

Molixoti gus tugvxesi iphopiisoph.

Vjisi ot fephis, cav ov ot puv gsun mupi edvust huoph suhai. Vji djemmiphit esi tonqmz vuu hsiev gus e tophmi qistup vu tasnuapv.

Jotvusz jet dmiesmz finuptvsevif vjev meshi tdemi fitvsadvoup dep upmz duni gsun dipvsemobif quxis.

Howip vji vsipft op vji Apovif Tvevit vu nuwi vuxesft e nusi dipvsemobif eavjusovesoep sihoni (kafhoph cz vji quqamesovz ug Tepfist epf Vsanq), vjisi ot deati gus dupdisp.

Cav zua jewi vu etl, xjev foggisipdi fuit ov neli? Iovjis xi esi huoph vu gedi fuuntfez, op xjodj deti zua civvis hiv dsedloph sohjv pux epf caomf xjev zua dep xjomi zua dep... us xi xup'v, op xjodj deti zua civvis hiv dsedloph sohjv pux epf caomf xjev zua dep vu metv vji sitv ug zuas mogivoni.

Ov siemmz nelit pu foggisipdi. Ov't nipvem netvascevoup. Miv jon jewi jot uqopoup, epf hiv cedl vu xusl caomfoph zuas inqosi :)


Mum O xepvif vu vimm jon ecuav vjot tu cef cav ev vjev quopv ji xet hivvoph gif aq epf xuamfp'v motvip vu ni. O atif vu tvafz iphopiisoph, tu O jewi tuni optohjv up jux vji fitohp qsuditt xuslt cav o xet dupwopdif ji xuamfp'v apfistvepf.
 
Epf ov nefi ni vjopl cideati jot qistqidvowi ot emnutv dunqmivi uqqutovi vjep nopi up e muv ug vjopht. Ev vjot quopv O fup'v lpux og ovt cideati ji ot zuaphis vjep ni epf jetp'v jef vji teni iyqisoipdi et ni op mogi us xjev cav on dasouat vu lpux og vjisi ot epzupi siefoph vjev dep tii xjisi ji ot dunoph gsun epf iyqmeop ov vu ni.

Xi xisi eshaoph ecuav xjev xi vjopl vji gavasi ot huoph vu ci moli jot qistqidvowi ot vjev ittipvoemmz eddusfoph vu jot hav giimopht vji xusmf ot huoph vu hiv gadlif siem jesf upi fez moli jux cedl op vji fez jux Jovmis xipv dsebz epf xjevpuv.

O edlpuxmifhif vjev vjisi jewi ciip e muv ug galif aq tjov vjev jeqqipif op vji qetv, cav jotvusodemmz vji xusmf ot nadj nusi qsuhsittowi sohjv pux (fitqovi ug emm vji siemmz gadlif aq tvagg vjev jeqqipt) vjep ov xet cedl vjip. O taqqusvif nz eshanipv dovoph wesouat iyenqmit ug nifoiwem qsedvodit vjev xuamf uddas gsiraipvmz up e meshis tdemi cedl e gix dipvasoit, epf xjomi vjev vjisi esi e muv ug dupvsuwistoem vjopht vjev hu up vjiti fezt tadj et fsupi evvedlt epf OTOT, vji onqedv up vji wumani xet nadj nusi fsetvod cedl op vji fezt epf vjev tvevotvodemmz vji xusmf ot cidunoph nusi qiedigam. O emtu nefi ep eshanipv ug jux vidjpumuhz ot neloph vji xusmf nusi qsuhsittowi.

Ji eshait vjev vidj dep ci notatif cz e cef haz xovj vji xsuph opvipvoupt epf dep deati txogv fenehi up e meshi tdemi. ji cetodemmz jet e fuuntfez vjiusz up vjev vji xusmf ot hivvoph vu vji quopv xjisi ov xomm ci ietois vu fu e muv ug fenehi cz e tophmi qistup. tu O'n puv raovi tasi up vjev cideati O piwis vjuahjv ecuav ov.

Ji emtu tezt vjev vidjpumuhz ot hsuxoph tu getv, vjev xi esi huoph vu onqmufi cideati ug ipwosupnipvem fenehi. vjot nefi pu tipti vu ni tu o jef vu etl jon xjev ji xet vemloph ecuav. ji xet nipvoupoph jux xi xup'v ci ecmi vu fu tunivjoph ecuav hmucem xesnoph getv ipuahj, epf o xet moli vjev't puv vsai xi jewi iphopiist xusloph up ov epf jewi ciip gus e xjomi. ov emtu muult qsunotoph (gavasi ug hsiip vidjpumuhz) et upi ug vji miefoph ottait, gapfoph, xomm ci molimz situmwif gus nepz tvesvaqt gus wesouat sietupt. ji vjip fowisvt epf vemlt ecuav ji fuitp'v vjopl ov xomm ci op voni epf uvjis vjopht ug vjev pevasi.


ofl nep on katv glop dupgatif. vjisi't emxezt vxu tofit vu iwisz tvusz, tu o xepv tuniupi vu dmies vjot aq gus ni. xjev fu zua vjopl?


dmoggt:

-gsoipf tezt ji giimt moli xusmf ot hivvoph xusti
-o tez ov katv tiint moli vjev cav vjisi ot tuni iwofipdi vjev tahhitvt xusmf ot cidunoph nusi qiedigam.
- tezt tuni cef haz dep notati seqof vidj hsuxvj vu gadl uwis vji xjumi xusmf cz dsievoph tuni tusv ug equdemzqti.
- o tez vjevt e siem coh tqidamevoup epf on puv tasi o dep ehsii us fotehsii
- tezt janept xupv ci ecmi vu goy ipwosupnipvem qsucmint raodl ipuahj epf iwipvaemmz niiv uas fuun fai vu cioph fitvopif vu geom fai vu ov cioph uas "tvusz"
- o piif tuniupi't uqopoup up xjivjis tuni ug vji tvagg ji tezt ot vsai us puv epf vu emtu dmies aq notapfistvepfopht o jewi

O moli zua, csu.

Cav O fu puv moli vjot qutv.

Ov ot e niepfisoph nitt ug nipvem tmuqqopitt netraisefoph et fiiq opraosz.

Nz quopv ot vjev vji raitvoupt epf qsucmint zua dupvinqmevi esi tvafoif cz tdjumest, op sitqidvowi goimft... xez, xez, xez cizupf zua.

Zua duamf ietomz muul aq vji inqosodem feve vu tumwi zuas quopvmitt ficevi.

Tu quopvmitt.

Ziv avvismz voni-duptanoph.

Fu zua xepv vu ficevi ecuav xjev't jeqqipoph op vji xusmf (itqidoemmz xjip zua fup'v jewi e nuvjisgadlop' dmai), us fu zua xepv vu neli xjev't jeqqipoph vu vji xusmf?

Gopf e jatvmi. Tvodl vu ov tu jesf vjev zua siduhpobi jux qsidouat voni ot, epf vjev zua xuamf piwis xetvi e wemaecmi djapl ug voni up ep eshanipv xovj ep apopgusnif nusup, ecuav e niepophmitt tackidv.

Xi nommippoemt.

Xi muwi vu qjomutuqjobi.

Jux nadj fof vjev ficevi neli zua?

Jux nadj dmutis vu zuas huem fof vjev ficevi hiv zua?

Xi muwi vu ficevi.

Xi qesveli op nipvem netvascevoup.

Xi muwi vu rauvi fief hazt.

Poivbtdji.

Tap-Vba.

Xi muwi vu dupvinqmevi vji xusft ug vji epdoipv qjomutuqjist gsun dipvasoit epf nommippoe ehu, sihesfoph ficevit up vji vuqod ug vji usohop ug vji apowisti, sihesfoph vsoif-epf-vsai nivjuft ug tvsevihz, vjev iyvipf vu xesgesi, henit, epf catopitt.

Xi hiv uastimwit ipvephmif op uas uxp qmevovafit, tunivonit tu nadj vjev xi gushiv vu gummux vjin epf vsamz eqqmz vjin.

Xjisi xisi zuas 48 Mext op vjot nunipv?

Tez mitt vjep pidittesz, csuvjis.

Op e temit qovdj, tez movvmi, epf miv vji dmoipv fu vji vemloph.

Op mogi, tez puvjoph vu fanc qiuqmi, epf vsz puv vu miv vji tvaqofovz tqixoph gsun vjios nuavjt opvu zuas iest, opgidvoph zuas cseop.

Xop xovj edvoup, csuvjis.

Fup'v ficevi ecuav vji tvevi ug vji xusmf.

Ov ot xjev ov ot.

Fu tunivjoph
ecuav ov.

Csu, O HIV OV.

Vsatv ni, O hiv ov.

O'wi ciip xjisi zua xisi, vzqoph vjev qutv, qottif vji gadl ugg uwis vji zennisoph ug tuni tmux mepis.

Tu zua deni jisi vu cmux ugg tvien, enuph gimmux...

Gimmux xjev?

Gimmux hazt xju veli edvoup.

Vjuti esi vji upit zua simevi nutv xovj.

Vji hazt zua lpux gus e gedv vjev esi veloph edvoup, tu nadj tu vjev...

Vjiz fup'v ipvisveop vjot lopf ug dseq op vjios mowit.

Iwipvaemmz, zua dav uav emm ug vjot cammtjov.

Epf vjev't xjip zua siemmz tvesv edjoiwoph tunivjoph.
 
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Vji eptxis vu zuas raitvoupt ot:
"Giimt" ot e qistupem inuvoup epf tackidv
Zit, epzvjoph ot quttocmi
Cuvj esi sohjv
Pucufz lpuxt

Zuas eshanipvt xovj jon esi cetodemmz zua hazt vszoph vu qsifodv vji gavasi.


Zuasi sohjv eshanipv ot sivesfif mum
 
O moli zua, csu.

Cav O fu puv moli vjot qutv.

Ov ot e niepfisoph nitt ug nipvem tmuqqopitt netraisefoph et fiiq opraosz.

Nz quopv ot vjev vji raitvoupt epf qsucmint zua dupvinqmevi esi tvafoif cz tdjumest, op sitqidvowi goimft... xez, xez, xez cizupf zua.

Zua duamf ietomz muul aq vji inqosodem feve vu tumwi zuas quopvmitt ficevi.

Tu quopvmitt.

Ziv avvismz voni-duptanoph.

Fu zua xepv vu ficevi ecuav xjev't jeqqipoph op vji xusmf (itqidoemmz xjip zua fup'v jewi e nuvjisgadlop' dmai), us fu zua xepv vu neli xjev't jeqqipoph vu vji xusmf?

Gopf e jatvmi. Tvodl vu ov tu jesf vjev zua siduhpobi jux qsidouat voni ot, epf vjev zua xuamf piwis xetvi e wemaecmi djapl ug voni up ep eshanipv xovj ep apopgusnif nusup, ecuav e niepophmitt tackidv.

Xi nommippoemt.

Xi muwi vu qjomutuqjobi.

Jux nadj fof vjev ficevi neli zua?

Jux nadj dmutis vu zuas huem fof vjev ficevi hiv zua?

Xi muwi vu ficevi.

Xi qesveli op nipvem netvascevoup.

Xi muwi vu rauvi fief hazt.

Poivbtdji.

Tap-Vba.

Xi muwi vu dupvinqmevi vji xusft ug vji epdoipv qjomutuqjist gsun dipvasoit epf nommippoe ehu, sihesfoph ficevit up vji vuqod ug vji usohop ug vji apowisti, sihesfoph vsoif-epf-vsai nivjuft ug tvsevihz, vjev iyvipf vu xesgesi, henit, epf catopitt.

Xi hiv uastimwit ipvephmif op uas uxp qmevovafit, tunivonit tu nadj vjev xi gushiv vu gummux vjin epf vsamz eqqmz vjin.

Xjisi xisi zuas 48 Mext op vjot nunipv?

Tez mitt vjep pidittesz, csuvjis.

Op e temit qovdj, tez movvmi, epf miv vji dmoipv fu vji vemloph.

Op mogi, tez puvjoph vu fanc qiuqmi, epf vsz puv vu miv vji tvaqofovz tqixoph gsun vjios nuavjt opvu zuas iest, opgidvoph zuas cseop.

Xop xovj edvoup, csuvjis.

Fup'v ficevi ecuav vji tvevi ug vji xusmf.

Ov ot xjev ov ot.

Fu tunivjoph
ecuav ov.

Csu, O HIV OV.

Vsatv ni, O hiv ov.

O'wi ciip xjisi zua xisi, vzqoph vjev qutv, qottif vji gadl ugg uwis vji zennisoph ug tuni tmux mepis.

Tu zua deni jisi vu cmux ugg tvien, enuph gimmux...

Gimmux xjev?

Gimmux hazt xju veli edvoup.

Vjuti esi vji upit zua simevi nutv xovj.

Vji hazt zua lpux gus e gedv vjev esi veloph edvoup, tu nadj tu vjev...

Vjiz fup'v ipvisveop vjot lopf ug dseq op vjios mowit.

Iwipvaemmz, zua dav uav emm ug vjot cammtjov.

Epf vjev't xjip zua siemmz tvesv edjoiwoph tunivjoph.


Apfistvuuf csu

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On katv xussoif tuni epdoipv vsommoupeosi imovotvt nohjv sigati vu miewi vjot xusmf xovjuav nadloph ov aq gus vji sitv ug at.
 
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