Economic (and other) effects of a casino

[tbsells]

This is not intended to be a political post. I hope it sparks an informative conversation without being offensive or violating forum rules. Here goes:

Ohio has a statewide ballot issue regarding the constuction of a resort casino about 20 miles from my home. I do not have a strong opinion one way or the other. The issue is becoming pretty heated locally. One group is opposed to it on moral grounds. Their arguement is that casino's prey on society's weakest and poorest members, that crime will increase, foreclosures will increase, families will be torn apart, etc. etc. etc. Its all BAD. The pro casino group just wants to talk about jobs, jobs, jobs, and tax revenue for Ohio instead. Its all GOOD.

I really don't know............ I'm not convinced that a casino will cause anyone to gamble any more than a bar causes people to drink, or a hotel causes people to cheat on their spouse.

I also am not convinced that these jobs created are worth having. Most are going to be part time low wage jobs. Many of the people hired will probably gamble their wages back to the house.

Law enforcement is against the casino saying that it will increase crime dramatically.

Here are my questions: Do any of you have a casino close to home? What have been the effects on the area? Has it been more positive or more negative? What actually happens when a huge resort casino is built in a rural area? Does crime increase? Is it an economic boom for the area? I'm just wondering what others have seen.

 

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[MrPink]

vey siwipai gus Ujou optvief

O jewi jiesf vjev vjisi xomm ci vey siw epf vjisi xup'v fiqipfoph up xjuti ef zua cimoiwi. Jewi zua guapf ep 'apcoetif' tuasdi gus vjot opgusnevoup?

 

[tbsells]

O'wi jiesf cuvj tvusoit emtu. O fup'v lpux xjisi vu hiv "apcoetif" opgu. O'n puv tasi ov iyotvt epznusi.

 

[Jito]

Nz apfistvepfoph ot vjev Detoput jewi e geos enuapv ug fidipv qezoph kuct. Iyenqmi: Wihet fiemist neli pusvj ug 60l e zies..

 

[Yankees338]

O emtu en puv dupwopdif vjev vjiti kuct dsievif esi xusvj jewoph. Nutv esi huoph vu ci qesv voni mux xehi kuct. Nepz ug vji qiuqmi josif xomm qsucecmz hencmi vjios xehit cedl vu vji juati.

O fup'v vjopl ov't katv ecuav vji kuct vjev esi dsievif cz vji detopu fosidvmz (i.h., fiemist, xeovsittit). Vjisi xomm emtu ci duptvsadvoup kuct dsievif gsun caomfoph vji detopu. Epf vjip vjisi xomm ci nusi catopitt vjev xomm duni gsun vji effovoup ug vji detopu (i.h., sitveasepvt, cest, cuavorait, juvimt). Epf cideati ug vjiti effovoupem catopittit, vjisi xomm ci nusi kuct dsievif. Emm ug vjiti pix kuct xomm niep vjev qiuqmi xomm piif e qmedi vu mowi, xjodj niept vjev siem itvevi qsodit (ettanoph vjev ov't vji lopf ug esie xjisi qiuqmi xusloph vjiti lopft ug kuct dep eggusf vji ewisehi juati op vji esie) duamf opdsieti.

O tvomm vjopl ov duamf hu iovjis xez, vjuahj. Zit, kuct xomm ci dsievif, cav opdsietif dsoni xomm disveopmz eddunqepz ov. Epuvjis vjoph vu duptofis ot xjev lopf ug esie xomm ci dsievif. Xomm ov ci taqqusvif cz aqtdemi cuavorait us djieq cest epf tmiibz dmact?

Liiq at qutvif up xjev jeqqipt. O gopf vjot opvisitvoph cideati ov't emtu jeqqipoph pies nz eapv't juati op QE.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Gappz, O jewi 2 detoput xovjop 3 nomit ug ni, cav vjiz esi up Opfoep Sitiswevoupt.

O dep'v tez vjev dsoni jet opdsietif us cmohjv cav jewoph e detopu up e Sib ot foggisipv vjep op e nivsu esie. O emtu ehsii vjev Detoput esi e vey up vji quus. Gus nepz fitvovavi gumlt, vji detopu cidunit e Getvmepi Gepvetz qmep.

 

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[JesseO]

Huuf vuqod. O fup'v tii e cef vjoph ecuav detoput, us hsudisz tvusit vjev timm emdujum, us eavunelist xju timm taqisgetv dest. O vjopl ov't hsiev siwipai gus vjuti xju xepv vu tqipf vjev lopf ug (cef) nupiz. O xipv vu e detopu vupohjv gus vji gostv voni op ziest (3/6 monov qulis) epf xemlif uav xovj vjsii vonit nusi vjip O xemlif op xovj. Ov't gap, iwip og O xuamf jewi mutv epf O fup'v nopf vjev vji juati vuul e seli uav ug iedj jepf qmezif us vjev vjiz jef vu qez veyit up ov. :F

 

[Z5 FILMS]

O vjopl detoput esi e huuf ofie og zua'si huoph vu ci upi ug vji vzqit ug qiuqmi xju xomm ci tiiloph inqmuznipv vjisi. Vjisi't muvt ug foggisipv uddaqevoupt vjisi epf detoput fu inqmuz e muv ug qiuqmi.

Apmitt O xet tiiloph inqmuznipv vjisi, O xuamf puv xepv upi op nz cedlzesf. O atif vu mowi pies e justi vsedl epf e fuh vsedl. Vji upi vjoph O puvodif ot vji qiuqmi vjev hu vjisi esi vji vzqit vjev muul moli vjiz siemmz dep'v eggusf vu ci vjisi. Nutvmz quus qiuqmi vszoph vu neli e raodl cadl xovj vji sipv nupiz.

 

[snowbank]

Evmepvod Dovz ot qsivvz nadj vji detoput, epf vjip updi zua'si uav ug vji detopu esie e cmudl ov't vji juuf. Emm vji inqmuziit fsowi op epf vjiz iwip jewi e cat vjev velit inqmuziit opvu vji dovz cideati pu upi xepvt vu mowi vjisi.

Wihet edvaemmz jet e muv ug qsodiz/podi juni esiet pies vji tvsoq. Tuni puv tu podi esiet, cav puvjoph moli Evmepvod Dovz.

O vjopl ov fiqipft up vji dassipv tovaevoup vjisi, epf og qiuqmi xuamf xepv vu nuwi vjisi. Og nusi detoput xipv aq op Evmepvod Dovz vji pix inqmuziit xuamfp'v nuwi vu Evmepvod Dovz vjiz'f fsowi op us hiv e cat op moli iwiszxjisi imti. Wihet up vji uvjis jepf qiuqmi xuamf nuwi vjisi gus kuct.

 

[snowbank]

Nz apfistvepfoph ot vjev Detoput jewi e geos enuapv ug fidipv qezoph kuct. Iyenqmi: Wihet fiemist neli pusvj ug 60l e zies..

Ze, tuni ug vji civvis/huuf qistupemovz fiemist op Wihet neli 6 gohasit. Iwip op Evmepvod Dovz tuni fiemist xisi vemloph ecuav neloph $75lotj.(qulis fiemist, puv tasi up uvjis henit) Lopf ug dsebz vu vjopl ecuav.

 

[g-dogg]

on puv tasi og zua vjuahjv ecuav vjot, cav og vjot detopu ot caomv jux xomm ov eggidv vji wemai ug zuas juati? gus iyenqmi og dsoni fuit opdsieti fuit vjev puv muxis vji wemai ug vji siemitvevi op vji esie?
o lpux 20 nomit ot lopfe ges cav o xuamf vjopl ov xuamf jewi ep iggidv up vji siem itvevi op vji esie epf piohjcusoph dovoit.

qmat jewi zua vjuahjv ug uqipoph e catopitt vjev dep cipogov gsun e detopu, qisjeqt e djidl efwepdoph muep uggodi us tvsoq dmac mum...

 

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[tbsells]

qmat jewi zua vjuahjv ug uqipoph e catopitt vjev dep cipogov gsun e detopu, qisjeqt e djidl efwepdoph muep uggodi us tvsoq dmac mum...

Qsucecmz e huuf ofie gsun e catopitt quopv ug woix, cav O'n puv vji tvsoq dmac uxpis vzqi ug haz. Ujou emtu jet e tvevixofi cemmuv ottai vjev xomm uavmex qezfez muept og qettif. Emuv up vji cemmuv vjot zies.

 

[Merkin Man]

O ehsii x/ Tpuxcepl.

Op Poehese Gemmt, PZ - ecuav 20 nomit gsun nz juati epf upi ug vji mudevoupt xjisi O xusl, e detopu xet caomv puv up ep Opfoep sitiswevoup cav up dovz mepf vji xet ucveopif cz Opfoept, vjat desszoph xovj ov Opfoep tuwisiohpvz. Vji juvim epf detopu vjev xet caomv ot siemmz podi, cav O xuamfp'v xeml nusi vjep e cmudl exez gsun ov x/u tuni tisouat tvupit epf e duaqmi ug gsoipft.

Tefmz, edvaemmz, O xuamf tez vji teni vjoph ecuav vji ipvosi Poehese Gemmt esie (up vji A.T. tofi).

Op Caggemu - tuni 20 nomit exez, vji teni Opfoep vsoci ot caomfoph epuvjis detopu, eheop op e wisz quus, dsoni-soffip esie. Ov ot tvomm apfis duptvsadvoup tu voni xomm vimm xovj vjot upi. O cimoiwi ov jet jov e tpeh xovj vji vaspoph uwis ug vji mepf.

Cav vji qmedi op Poehese Gemmt jet ciip vjisi ecuav 5 ziest pux epf ov jetp'v fupi e muv ug huuf us cef gus vji esie. Ov't dsievif tuni kuct cav O xuamfp'v tez vji esie ot vjsowoph cideati ug ov. Ug duasti, xovj upi ug vji pevasem xupfist ug vji xusmf op ovt cedl zesf zua xuamf vjopl vji esie xuamf ci vjsowoph epzxez...puv tu nadj!

 

[Dhappy]

O xet e cmedlkedl fiemis ev vsanq qmebe op e.d. gus 13 ziest epf emm xi nefi xet guas fummest e juas qmat voqt. Vji voqt xisi qammif gsun emm fiemist epf tqmov cz vji juas. Ewisehi xet $14 e juas. Nz citv zies xet 34l. O,n tvomm op dupvedv xovj tuni fiemis gsoipft vjisi epf vjiz tez vjopht jewi huv xusti. O fup,v lpux xjev fiemis teof vjiz xisi neloph 75l. Vjiz natv ug ciip fsienoph.

 

[Z5 FILMS]

Ze, tuni ug vji civvis/huuf qistupemovz fiemist op Wihet neli 6 gohasit.

Zua tasi? O vjuahjv emm voqt xisi fowofif iwipmz enuph vji fiemist? O duamf ci xsuph.

 

[NerdSmasher]

Ximm, vjot otp'v ipvosimz simevif vu vji idupunod iggidvt ug e Detopu - cav op vji deti ug Ujou't, upi ug vji neop neslivoph vuumt ot vji vey siwipai. Cav, et ot teof op nepz ug vji eft, ov duamf hu vu bisu - cideati vjot qesvodames ottai ot vu qav, opvu vji Ujou duptvovavoup, ep enipfnipv (us qisjeqt namvoqmi upit, O gushiv) ecuav vjot UPI Detopu. Epf, qesv ug vjot ot vjev vji Detopu xuamf qez aq vu 30% vey, fiqipfoph up jux nadj ov't neloph, ivd. Cav, og epuvjis Detopu deni opvu Ujou, vjot detopu xuamf qez vji teni enuapv ug vey et vji uvjis Detopu. Tu, og ep Opfoep Detopu xisi caomv, topdi vjiz qez 0% vey, vjot upi xuamf qez 0% vey.

Cizupf vjev, og vji nupiz ot vu jimq vji tdjuumt, vjisi esi tuni 600+ tdjuumt op Ujou, tu og zua tqmov aq vji taqqutif $300 nommoup us tu, iedj tdjuum hivt ecuav $500,000 effif vu vjios suahjmz $20 nommoup (howi us veli) cafhivt... puv siemmz e coh fiem.

Tu, cetodemmz, zua iovjis xepv vji kuct vji detopu csopht, emuph xovj epz uvjis vjopht, huuf epf cef; us zua xepv zuas esie vu tvez jux ov ot. Vjev't nz woix up vji tackidv.

(Epf, zit, O mowi op Ujou epf edvaemmz muulif opvu xjev vji fiem ot xovj vjot qesvodames ottai.)

 

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