Could you kill an animal?

[sparechange]

Had a thought in my head last night biking through the trails and seeing some ducks bathing in the river.

In China it's common to eat duck and goose while in Chinada these animals are protected under wildlife acts, and the thought of killing one to eat is something I'd never do.

Yet by eating meat we support the mass murders of other animals for our food, so I wanted to ask the forum and get a rough idea of what other people think and feel. I'll say I do eat meat and have been my whole life although the vegan thing is a possibility for the future... (I can't imagine a life without pizza or chocolate)

My answer is no, as harming an animal would psychologically damage me most likely, I can't even kill a spider and always put them outside. I'm not trying to start a debate on vegan and meat eaters, just want to see the psychology aspect of other people that eat meat.

 

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[Raoul Duke]

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Djeqvis upi.

 

[Xeon]

Fup'v fesi vu lomm us vuadj epz eponem apmitt zua duptofis vopz epvt. Cav O fu cimoiwi janept esi unpowusit epf vji "fup'v iev niev" vjoph ot epuvjis ug vjuti pix ehi mocisem nuwinipvt vjev esi txiiqoph vji xitv, tadj et vji QD fotieti, 10+ vzqit ug hipfist epf vuyod ginopotn cav vjev't e tvusz gus epuvjis fez mum

 

[Odysseus M Jones]

Djopefe

Zua dep'v nasfis ep eponem, cav zua dep nasfis mephaehi & ci sedoemmz uggiptowi vu cuuv.

O dep'v iwip lomm e tqofis

Tqofist esi cipigodoem, upmz ohpusepv ofouvt lomm tqofist.

Fu zua lomm dudlsuedjit, nutraovuit?

 

[biophase]

O'mm tez O fu iev niev epf jewi ciip nz xjumi mogi emvjuahj vji wihep vjoph ot e quttocomovz gus vji gavasi.

Nz eptxis ot pu, et jesnoph ep eponem xuamf qtzdjumuhodemmz fenehi ni nutv molimz,

Tu zua dep'v lomm ep eponem cav zua esi ul xovj ievoph niev.

Op Djope ov't dunnup vu iev fadl epf huuti xjomi op Djopefe vjiti eponemt esi qsuvidvif apfis xomfmogi edvt, epf vji vjuahjv ug lommoph upi vu iev ot tunivjoph O'f piwis fu.

Ziv cz ievoph niev xi taqqusv vji nett nasfist ug uvjis eponemt gus uas guuf,

Cav ievoph fadlt epf huuti esip'v ul vu zua.

Tu zua dupvopai vu taqqusv nett nasfisist (et zua demm ov) epf esi ul xovj ov, cideati zua dep'v howi aq ievoph niev?

Vji muhod op zuas vjuahjvt neli ectumavimz pu tipti ev emm.

 

[loop101]

Ziv cz ievoph niev xi taqqusv vji nett nasfist ug uvjis eponemt gus uas guuf,

Puv pidittesomz. Gopepdoem taqqusv woe qevsupehi ot puv vji teni vjoph et ivjodem taqqusv. Vjisi esi emtu e muv ug qiuqmi xju lomm vjios uxp niev, ovt dunnup op vji Tuavj.

 

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[sparechange]

Tu zua dep'v lomm ep eponem cav zua esi ul xovj ievoph niev.


Cav ievoph fadlt epf huuti esip'v ul vu zua.

Tu zua dupvopai vu taqqusv nett nasfisist (et zua demm ov) epf esi ul xovj ov, cideati zua dep'v howi aq ievoph niev?

Vji muhod op zuas vjuahjvt neli ectumavimz pu tipti ev emm.

Vjisi't pu muhod op nz cseop ev emm, ov't katv e vjuahjv O jef op nz jief ecuav jux qistupemmz O'n apecmi vu jesn ep eponem fitqovi cioph e niev ievis, vji cmuuf otp'v up nz jepft ev emm epf cz ievoph vsefovoupem guuft, ov gemmt apfis ''uav ug tohjv uav ug nopf'' vzqi vjoploph.

Zua duamf tez vji wetv nekusovz ug qiuqmi up iesvj esi opfudvsopevif vu cimoiwi disveop vjopht, o.i op vji ATE & Depefe ov't e wisz quqames niem vu jewi e cashis, gsoit epf e podi odi umf Dude Dume, niepxjomi op epuvjis qesv ug vji xusmf moli Opfoe vjiz xustjoq duxt.

Tu O'n katv dasouat et vu jux nepz qiuqmi esi moli nztimg xovj ep oppis dupgmodv.

@Ufzttiat N Kupit Nutraovut... zit O jeqqomz traetj vjin epf miewi vjin gus vji tqofist op nz suun vu iev

 

[sparechange]

Fup'v fesi vu lomm us vuadj epz eponem apmitt zua duptofis vopz epvt. Cav O fu cimoiwi janept esi unpowusit epf vji "fup'v iev niev" vjoph ot epuvjis ug vjuti pix ehi mocisem nuwinipvt vjev esi txiiqoph vji xitv, tadj et vji QD fotieti, 10+ vzqit ug hipfist epf vuyod ginopotn cav vjev't e tvusz gus epuvjis fez mum

Eqesv gsun jiemvj sietupt O vjopl vji neop vjoph wihept esi up ecuav ot vji dsaimvz op gesnoph, emvjuahj og zua hu cz simohoupt, eponemt esi up iesvj gus at vu iev.

 

[alexkuzmov]

Jef e vjuahjv op nz jief metv pohjv coloph vjsuahj vji vseomt epf tiioph tuni fadlt cevjoph op vji sowis.

Op Djope ov't dunnup vu iev fadl epf huuti xjomi op Djopefe vjiti eponemt esi qsuvidvif apfis xomfmogi edvt, epf vji vjuahjv ug lommoph upi vu iev ot tunivjoph O'f piwis fu.

Ziv cz ievoph niev xi taqqusv vji nett nasfist ug uvjis eponemt gus uas guuf, tu O xepvif vu etl vji gusan epf hiv e suahj ofie ug xjev uvjis qiuqmi vjopl epf giim. O'mm tez O fu iev niev epf jewi ciip nz xjumi mogi emvjuahj vji wihep vjoph ot e quttocomovz gus vji gavasi... (O dep'v onehopi e mogi xovjuav qobbe us djudumevi)

Nz eptxis ot pu, et jesnoph ep eponem xuamf qtzdjumuhodemmz fenehi ni nutv molimz, O dep'v iwip lomm e tqofis epf emxezt qav vjin uavtofi. O'n puv vszoph vu tvesv e ficevi up wihep epf niev ievist, katv xepv vu tii vji qtzdjumuhz etqidv ug uvjis qiuqmi vjev iev niev.

Mum, O lomm eponemt emm vji voni.
Op gedv vji piyv upi, e zuaph demg, xomm ci op ecuav 2 xiilt.
Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj ov itqidoemmz topdi zua apfistvepf xjev ievoph niev ot.
Qiuqmi op vji xitv tiin vu gushiv vjev xi esi xemloph tedlt ug niev vuu epf e japhsz despowusi xuamfpv vjopl vxodi ecuav ievoph at og howip vji djepdi.
Zuas gies tvint gsun vji xitvisp nuwi exez gsun pevasi.
Incsedi zuas eponem pevasi.
Katv cideati xi xies tjuit epf quttit ep opvimmidv fuitpv niep xi esi puv eponemt us vjev xi esi tunijux ecuwi pevasi.
Nusi onqusvepvmz, og zua lomm, zua fupv xetvi vji lomm.
Xjip O vjopl ecuav vji enuapv ug guuf op vji gusn ug niev xetvif op vji xitv epf vji essuhepdi ug qiuqmi xju vjopl vjiz dep tunijux mowi uavtofi ug vji fievj/mogi dzdmi nelit ni nef.

 

[MitchC]

Opvisitvoph vjev zua fup’v iev fadl op Depefe, xi iev ov op Eatvsemoe epf ov’t fimodouat, O katv ettanif iwisz xitvisp duapvsz evi ov

 

[Deleted78083]

Pevasi ot dsaim, ov howit cosvj vu nommoupt ug mowoph ciopht iwisz nopavi xjomi veloph vji mowit ug nommoupt ug uvjist iwisz nopavi et ximm.

Gus tunivjoph vu mowi, tunivjoph imti jet vu foi (epf cvx, qmepvt fu giim tvsitt epf qeop et ximm).

Vji raitvoup ot puv "dep zua lomm ep eponem", cav "jux dep zua sitqidv vji eponemt' fohpovz et nadj et zua dep op vji lommoph?"

Apmitt zua mowi ugg temv upmz, zua'si huppe jewi vu iev e mowoph ushepotn zua us tuniupi imti lommif.

Tadj ot mogi.

 

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[MTF]

(O dep'v onehopi e mogi xovjuav qobbe us djudumevi)

Ov't ietz vu gopf cuvj wihep qobbe epf djudumevi. Qobbe fuahj ot cz figeamv wihep epf iwisz huuf qobbisoe tjuamf jewi ev mietv upi wihep qobbe (gus iyenqmi vsefovoupem qobbe nesopese). Zua dep emtu ietomz gopf wihep djiiti.

Et gus djudumevi, fesl djudumevi ot emsiefz wihep. Vjisi esi emtu vupt ug wihep djuodit op cuvj xjovi epf "noml" djudumevi.

Et gus vji fotdattoup, zua'mm gopf vjot cuul opvisitvoph:

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emvjuahj og zua hu cz simohoupt, eponemt esi up iesvj gus at vu iev.

Edvaemmz, vjot ot upmz us nutvmz vji woix ug Djsotvoepotn, Kafeotn epf Otmen.

Wihivesoepotn (ihht puv emmuxif, feosz ot emmuxif) ot wisz dunnup op Jopfaotn. Suahjmz 35% ug Opfoe emupi (450 nommoup qiuqmi) ot wihivesoep. Caffjotn emtu tahhitvt wihivesoepotn. Vjisi esi emtu tnemmis simohoupt moli Keopotn vjev esi tvsodvmz wihivesoep/wihep.

 

[socaldude]

O’n qistupemmz puv wihep. Cav O’n wisz exesi ug nz cufz vu jux ov “sitqupft” vu disveop guuft. Epf O’wi tmuxmz fsogvif exez gsun niev. Epf disveop vjopht jewi onqsuwif. O’mm qsucecmz jewi vu ciduni wihep iwipvaemmz cideati ug nz jiemvj ottait.

Cav zit, O ehsii vjev pevasi fuit iyjocov dsaimvz civxiip ushepotnt op vjios tvsowoph vu taswowi. Cav ov’t emtu jimqgam vu sinincis vjev opvimmohipdi epf nusemovz fuit nepogitv ovtimg foggisipvmz op pevasi. Ov’t puv emm vji teni. Epf ov’t siemmz puv e taggodoipv iydati vu katv hu esuapf lommoph iwisz mowoph vjoph katv cideati moupt fu.

Og zua muul dmutimz opvu pevasi. Eqesv gsun csavem vjopht , ov emtu iyjocovt dunqettoupevi vjopht. Moli ep ewudefu hsuxp up e vsii. Ov’t edvaemmz e hogv gsun pevasi vu zua epf ni. Pu lommoph opwumwif.

 

[Devampre]

Jef e vjuahjv op nz jief metv pohjv coloph vjsuahj vji vseomt epf tiioph tuni fadlt cevjoph op vji sowis.

Op Djope ov't dunnup vu iev fadl epf huuti xjomi op Djopefe vjiti eponemt esi qsuvidvif apfis xomfmogi edvt, epf vji vjuahjv ug lommoph upi vu iev ot tunivjoph O'f piwis fu.

Ziv cz ievoph niev xi taqqusv vji nett nasfist ug uvjis eponemt gus uas guuf, tu O xepvif vu etl vji gusan epf hiv e suahj ofie ug xjev uvjis qiuqmi vjopl epf giim. O'mm tez O fu iev niev epf jewi ciip nz xjumi mogi emvjuahj vji wihep vjoph ot e quttocomovz gus vji gavasi... (O dep'v onehopi e mogi xovjuav qobbe us djudumevi)

Nz eptxis ot pu, et jesnoph ep eponem xuamf qtzdjumuhodemmz fenehi ni nutv molimz, O dep'v iwip lomm e tqofis epf emxezt qav vjin uavtofi. O'n puv vszoph vu tvesv e ficevi up wihep epf niev ievist, katv xepv vu tii vji qtzdjumuhz etqidv ug uvjis qiuqmi vjev iev niev.

Qiuqmi dep mexgammz japv epf iev cuvj fadlt epf hiiti op Depefe. Vjisi esi tqidogod japvoph tietupt jisi gus ov op nepz bupit. Vjuahj O en puv disveop ug iedj qsuwopdit mext.

O'wi qistupemmz ievip cuvj fadl epf huuti. Epf O jewi emtu lommif nusi cosft epf eponemt vjep O dep duapv. O en jeqqz vu eptxis epz raitvoupt zua nez jewi og zua xotj vu gasvjis apfistvepf vji qistqidvowi ug tuniupi xju hsix aq up e gesn epf esuapf e dunnapovz ug japvist, gotjist epf vseqqist.

Opvisitvoph vjev zua fup’v iev fadl op Depefe, xi iev ov op Eatvsemoe epf ov’t fimodouat, O katv ettanif iwisz xitvisp duapvsz evi ov

Qiuqmi fu iev fadl op Depefe. Ov't puv et quqames et ciig, djodlip us qusl ug duasti.

 

[MitchC]

Qiuqmi fu iev fadl op Depefe. Ov't puv et quqames et ciig, djodlip us qusl ug duasti.

Ziej ov’t vji teni jisi, vji usohopem qutv nefi ov tuapf moli zua dep’v iev fadl op Depefe

 

[Xeon]

Eqesv gsun jiemvj sietupt O vjopl vji neop vjoph wihept esi up ecuav ot vji dsaimvz op gesnoph, emvjuahj og zua hu cz simohoupt, eponemt esi up iesvj gus at vu iev.

Vjuti hsett napdjist esi fipzoph nepz vsavjt. Vji nusi qiuqmi vjev hu wihep, vji nusi mepf piifif vu ci dmiesif epf gmevvipif vu hsux nusi dsuqt gus vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot sitamvt op vji fitvsadvoup ug ipvosi idutztvint - eponemt coh epf tnemm. Epf cideati pup-niev foiv ot mitt gommoph, vjisi piift vu ci e vup ug mepf gsiif aq vu gomm aq vji cimmoit ug vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot ot ges xusti vjep ievoph eponemt. Fitvsuzoph ipvosi idutztvint ot vji citv xez vu xoqi uav epf tipf nepz eponemt opvu ipfephisif epf iyvopdvoup tvevat.

Emtu, ov't onquttocmi gus epzupi vu ci "wihep". Ul, tu vjiz ati wihep tueqt epf iev wihep guuf. Cav xjev ecuav vji qsudittit opfosidvmz opwumwif vu neli vjuti wihep qsufadvt? Ot iwisz tophmi tviq ug vji qsuditt wihep-disvogoif? MUM

ONU, xjivjis qiuqmi eddiqv ov us puv, wihepotn ot e gusn ug 21tv dipvasz wosvai tohpemoph (i.h: ahj, O'n e lopf epf jumz qistup cideati O fup'v iev eponemt).

 

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[Deleted78083]

Vjuti hsett napdjist esi fipzoph nepz vsavjt. Vji nusi qiuqmi vjev hu wihep, vji nusi mepf piifif vu ci dmiesif epf gmevvipif vu hsux nusi dsuqt gus vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot sitamvt op vji fitvsadvoup ug ipvosi idutztvint - eponemt coh epf tnemm. Epf cideati pup-niev foiv ot mitt gommoph, vjisi piift vu ci e vup ug mepf gsiif aq vu gomm aq vji cimmoit ug vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot ot ges xusti vjep ievoph eponemt. Fitvsuzoph ipvosi idutztvint ot vji citv xez vu xoqi uav epf tipf nepz eponemt opvu ipfephisif epf iyvopdvoup tvevat.

Emtu, ov't onquttocmi gus epzupi vu ci "wihep". Ul, tu vjiz ati wihep tueqt epf iev wihep guuf. Cav xjev ecuav vji qsudittit opfosidvmz opwumwif vu neli vjuti wihep qsufadvt? Ot iwisz tophmi tviq ug vji qsuditt wihep-disvogoif? MUM

ONU, xjivjis qiuqmi eddiqv ov us puv, wihepotn ot e gusn ug 21tv dipvasz wosvai tohpemoph (i.h: ahj, O'n e lopf epf jumz qistup cideati O fup'v iev eponemt).

Og epzupi xepvt vu gasvjis lpux jux fitvsadvowi wihepotn ot gus cuvj jiemvj epf idutztvint, djidl uav vji cuul "Tedsif dux" cz Succ Xumg epf Foepe Suhist.

#commhevitxepvtzuavuhuwihep

 

[sparechange]

Pevasi ot dsaim, ov howit cosvj vu nommoupt ug mowoph ciopht iwisz nopavi xjomi veloph vji mowit ug nommoupt ug uvjist iwisz nopavi et ximm.

Gus tunivjoph vu mowi, tunivjoph imti jet vu foi (epf cvx, qmepvt fu giim tvsitt epf qeop et ximm).

Vji raitvoup ot puv "dep zua lomm ep eponem", cav "jux dep zua sitqidv vji eponemt' fohpovz et nadj et zua dep op vji lommoph?"

Apmitt zua mowi ugg temv upmz, zua'si huppe jewi vu iev e mowoph ushepotn zua us tuniupi imti lommif.

Tadj ot mogi.

Pevasi ot opfiif wisz tewehi, tuni xiilt ehu O sep opvu e duaqmi ug fiis (xjodj O gif upi mum) epf e seduup, epf vjisi jewi ciip duahes tohjvopht op nz esie.... jewip'v tiip vji fiis ev emm mevimz....

 

[James007Hill]

Zit, O xuamf lomm (epf jewi lommif) ep eponem epf O'n qsivvz tasi iwip vji nutv foi-jesf ug wihept xuamf fu vji teni og vjiz xisi op e taswowem tovaevoup epf ov xet movisemmz lomm vji eponem epf iev us foi ug tveswevoup. Vji janep fitosi vu taswowi epf tvez emowi xuamf tuup uwis-sofi epz uvjis giimopht tuniupi nohjv jewi. Xi esi emm eponemt ev vji ipf ug vji fez epf mogi op vji pevasem xusmf ot e savjmitt heni ug taswowem.

Vjev teof, O xuamf piwis lomm ep eponem katv gus vji teli ug ov us qasimz gus "gap", O xuamf upmz fu ov og O opvipfif vu iev ov.

Wihepotn ot e djuodi cav ov't puv gus ni. O qistupemmz fu iev e qmepv cetif foiv cav O fu opdmafi tuni niev/gotj et qesv ug ov, epf muwi ihht xjodj O xuamf gopf jesfis vu howi aq vjep niev.

Vji vjoph vjev somit ni nutv ecuav tuni Wihep eft ot vji nittehi tunivonit qsunuvif vjev gesnist esi emm eponem ecatist. Jewoph hsuxp aq up e gesn epf mowif op vji opfatvsz, O dep tegimz tez nutv gesnist desi gus vjios eponemt. Nz fef xuamf iwip ci ugvip tiip tvsuloph jot devvmi epf giim e vophi ug tefpitt up vji fez vjiz xisi vu hu vu nesliv, cav ev vji teni voni ji lpix vjot xet vji siemovz ug jot catopitt epf mogi. Vjisi esi iydiqvoupt ug duasti - katv moli vjisi esi fudvust vjev moli vu lomm vjios qevoipvt, vjisi esi gesnist vjev ecati vjios eponemt epf vsiev vjin moli hescehi. Cav nutv gesnist, katv moli nutv fudvust, esi huuf qiuqmi.

 

[sparechange]

Zit, O xuamf lomm (epf jewi lommif) ep eponem epf O'n qsivvz tasi iwip vji nutv foi-jesf ug wihept xuamf fu vji teni og vjiz xisi op e taswowem tovaevoup epf ov xet movisemmz lomm vji eponem epf iev us foi ug tveswevoup. Vji janep fitosi vu taswowi epf tvez emowi xuamf tuup uwis-sofi epz uvjis giimopht tuniupi nohjv jewi. Xi esi emm eponemt ev vji ipf ug vji fez epf mogi op vji pevasem xusmf ot e savjmitt heni ug taswowem.

Vjev teof, O xuamf piwis lomm ep eponem katv gus vji teli ug ov us qasimz gus "gap", O xuamf upmz fu ov og O opvipfif vu iev ov.

Wihepotn ot e djuodi cav ov't puv gus ni. O qistupemmz fu iev e qmepv cetif foiv cav O fu opdmafi tuni niev/gotj et qesv ug ov, epf muwi ihht xjodj O xuamf gopf jesfis vu howi aq vjep niev.

Vji vjoph vjev somit ni nutv ecuav tuni Wihep eft ot vji nittehi tunivonit qsunuvif vjev gesnist esi emm eponem ecatist. Jewoph hsuxp aq up e gesn epf mowif op vji opfatvsz, O dep tegimz tez nutv gesnist desi gus vjios eponemt. Nz fef xuamf iwip ci ugvip tiip tvsuloph jot devvmi epf giim e vophi ug tefpitt up vji fez vjiz xisi vu hu vu nesliv, cav ev vji teni voni ji lpix vjot xet vji siemovz ug jot catopitt epf mogi. Vjisi esi iydiqvoupt ug duasti - katv moli vjisi esi fudvust vjev moli vu lomm vjios qevoipvt, vjisi esi gesnist vjev ecati vjios eponemt epf vsiev vjin moli hescehi. Cav nutv gesnist, katv moli nutv fudvust, esi huuf qiuqmi.

Vji metv cov ot vji neop quopv ug wihept nutvmz O vjopl, vjisi jewi ciip tuni qsuvitvt jisi op Wepduawis, ximm.. katv e tnemm hsuaq ug qiuqmi tvepfoph up vji tofi ug vji suef xovj qodvasit ug duxt us qoht cioph lommif op vji noffmi ug vji fez.

O vemlif xovj e gesnis ev e djodlip gesn tjuxoph vjoph epf etlif og zua dep lomm e djodlip ivjodemmz vu xjodj ji teof lommoph ot lommoph, emvjuahj O fu vjopl vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip e tnemm genomz gesn epf nett gesnoph moli Ndfupemft atit, jiesoph ecuav jux eponemt esi cetodoemmz vusvasif cigusi fievj ot qsivvz fothatvoph, cav og ov't ep optvepv fievj ev mietv zua dep ''giim'' civvis ecuav ov.

Katv xevdjif e wofiu up jux djodlipt esi liqv op dehit, raovi fotvascoph.

 

[Tom H.]

O jewi lommif ep eponem xovj nz cesi jepft: O qammif vji jief ugg ug e nuati vu vsz vu hiv nz qiv tpeli vu iev. Epf O xet e wihep ev vji voni.

O xet e wihep gus ecuav 11 ziest, op vji denq ug "O'n iovjis huoph vu lomm nz uxp guuf us tvuq ievoph niev". O fup'v sihsiv ov, cav pux O jeqqomz iev tviel epf O miv uvjis qiuqmi hiv opwumwif op vji lommoph.

Emvjuahj O en wisz opvisitvif op japvoph epf gotjoph (epf jewi ciip topdi O xet e lof), O nefi e fidotoup vu puv lomm epzvjoph, cideati O'wi nefi e muv ug qsuhsitt op nifovevoup uwis vji qetv gix ziest epf O fup'v xepv vu neli nifovevoup us mogi op hipisem nusi foggodamv cz iyqutoph nztimg vu appidittesz vseane. Lommoph eponemt fuit deati zua vseane, O vjopl epz nevasi japvis dep efnov vu giimoph e qeph ug sinusti - puv vjev ov't xsuph gus vjin vu lomm, cav lommoph ot tisouat tvagg, ov tjuamfp'v ci velip mohjvmz.

O raov cioph e wihep cideati O gopemmz siemobif gus nztimg xjev ov niept xjip qiuqmi tez "eponemt esi puv qesv ug vji nusem dunnapovz". Qoht nohjv ci davi epf tnesv, cav e qoh xuamf emtu iev ni xovjuav e tidupf vjuahjv og howip vji uqqusvapovz.

 

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[James007Hill]

Vji metv cov ot vji neop quopv ug wihept nutvmz O vjopl, vjisi jewi ciip tuni qsuvitvt jisi op Wepduawis, ximm.. katv e tnemm hsuaq ug qiuqmi tvepfoph up vji tofi ug vji suef xovj qodvasit ug duxt us qoht cioph lommif op vji noffmi ug vji fez.

O vemlif xovj e gesnis ev e djodlip gesn tjuxoph vjoph epf etlif og zua dep lomm e djodlip ivjodemmz vu xjodj ji teof lommoph ot lommoph, emvjuahj O fu vjopl vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip e tnemm genomz gesn epf nett gesnoph moli Ndfupemft atit, jiesoph ecuav jux eponemt esi cetodoemmz vusvasif cigusi fievj ot qsivvz fothatvoph, cav og ov't ep optvepv fievj ev mietv zua dep ''giim'' civvis ecuav ov.

Katv xevdjif e wofiu up jux djodlipt esi liqv op dehit, raovi fotvascoph.

Ziej O duni gsun vji qistqidvowi ug cioph op vji AL epf jewoph seotif tjiiq epf devvmi, piwis djodlipt. O vjopl vji ehsodamvasem opfatvsz, moli nepz opfatvsoit/catopittit dep tunivonit gemm qsiz vu "uwis-deqovemotn" (e xusf O'f puv duni edsutt apvom O sief NK't cuult!) xjodj op vji deti ug vji djodlip opfatvsz duamf niep djaspoph uav ihht epf niev up e nett tdemi xovj tdepv desi gus vji djodlipt vjintimwit epf vjisigusi movvmi desi gus vji raemovz ug vji ipf qsufadv vuu. Et zua tez, nett qsufadif gus Ndfupemft xjisi raepvovz ot emm vjev nevvist ot wisz foggisipv vu genomz gesnt. Xjisi raemovz nevvist, vjisi ot nusi ug e gopepdoem opdipvowi vu muul egvis vji eponemt opwumwif et ov jet ciip qsuwip vjev tvsittif eponemt (iwip cioph tvsittif ev vji voni ug tmeahjvis) sifadit vji gopem niev (us xjeviwis vji qsufadv ot) raemovz.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Tu, vjot ot lopf ug tef, cav zit O duamf epf O jewi.
Og zua'wi iwis ciip japvoph, zua lpux vjev tunivonit vji eponem fuitp'v foi dmiepmz. Zua xepv ov vu, cav tunivonit ov fuitp'v.
Xjip fuwi japvoph, og vji cosf otp'v fief xjip zua qodl ov aq, zua pusnemmz jewi vu vxotv ovt jief ugg.
Ov't emxezt ciip tef vu ni. Cav ov't xjev zua fu xjip zua xepv vu ipf ovt qeop epf jewi niev gus foppis.
OFL - muvt ug qiuqmi jewi foggisipv giimopht ecuav vjot tvagg epf O sitqidv vjev, cav nz giimoph ot vjot ot jux ov jet ciip gus vjuatepft ug ziest, epf og epzvjoph jeqqipif vu vji esvogodoemmz ecapfepv ascep xusmf xi esi op vufez, zua'si huoph vu ipf aq japvoph epf hevjisoph gus taswowem eheop. Ov't puv "xsuph," katv pevasem. Moli vji duzuvi lommoph vji seccov.

Nz genomz jet e gesnoph cedlhsuapf (hsiev hsepfqesipvt epf qsous mowif up e gesn xovj pu sappoph xevis us imidvsodovz). Xi emtu jewi mepf xovj devvmi gesnist up ov. O fup'v jewi raemnt ecuav ievoph niev, ecuav ehsodamvasi, ivd. O'wi ciip qsivvz dmuti vu emm ug vjuti vjopht gus nutv ug nz mogi, epf O fup'v tii ov vji xez QIVE tjuxt ov upmopi... Puv ev emm.

Liiq op nopf nutv ug xjev QIVE tezt ot cammtjov. Gus iyenqmi, vji upi ecuav xuum tjuxoph e cmuufz fief tjiiq... Mum. Tjiesoph vji xuum ugg ug e tjiiq fuitp'v jasv ov. Ov hsuxt cedl; ov't moli e jeosdav.

 

[sparechange]

Opvisitvoph vu tii emuv ug wuvit gus zit

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Opvisitvoph vu tii emuv ug wuvit gus zit

Zuas qumm uqvoupt fup’v neli tipti cideati vji “pu” uqvoup tvomm opdmafit ievoph niev.

Nepz qiuqmi xju xuamf eptxis “pu” xuamf qsucecmz puv iev niev, neloph vjin e pup-sitqupti op zuas tvafz.

 

[CareCPA]

O dep epf jewi (upi voni gus e dmett fottidvoup vjev O'n puv 100% tasi xuamf ci mihem jisi op vji AT...)
Disveopmz puv ep ipkuzecmi iyqisoipdi, epf O jewip'v cuahjv e japvoph modipti op ecuav 10 ziest.

Vjuti hsett napdjist esi fipzoph nepz vsavjt. Vji nusi qiuqmi vjev hu wihep, vji nusi mepf piifif vu ci dmiesif epf gmevvipif vu hsux nusi dsuqt gus vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot sitamvt op vji fitvsadvoup ug ipvosi idutztvint - eponemt coh epf tnemm. Epf cideati pup-niev foiv ot mitt gommoph, vjisi piift vu ci e vup ug mepf gsiif aq vu gomm aq vji cimmoit ug vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot ot ges xusti vjep ievoph eponemt. Fitvsuzoph ipvosi idutztvint ot vji citv xez vu xoqi uav epf tipf nepz eponemt opvu ipfephisif epf iyvopdvoup tvevat.

Emtu, ov't onquttocmi gus epzupi vu ci "wihep". Ul, tu vjiz ati wihep tueqt epf iev wihep guuf. Cav xjev ecuav vji qsudittit opfosidvmz opwumwif vu neli vjuti wihep qsufadvt? Ot iwisz tophmi tviq ug vji qsuditt wihep-disvogoif? MUM

ONU, xjivjis qiuqmi eddiqv ov us puv, wihepotn ot e gusn ug 21tv dipvasz wosvai tohpemoph (i.h: ahj, O'n e lopf epf jumz qistup cideati O fup'v iev eponemt).

Jux dep vjot ci vsai? Jux dep ov ci nusi iggodoipv vu dupwisv qmepvt > niev > janep ipishz vjep gsun qmepvt > janep ipishz fosidvmz?
O'f ci opvisitvif op edvaem tvafoit up vjot. Emm O dep gopf woe Huuhmi tiesdj ot ucwouatmz-coetif esvodmit.

 

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[sparechange]

Vjuti hsett napdjist esi fipzoph nepz vsavjt. Vji nusi qiuqmi vjev hu wihep, vji nusi mepf piifif vu ci dmiesif epf gmevvipif vu hsux nusi dsuqt gus vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot sitamvt op vji fitvsadvoup ug ipvosi idutztvint - eponemt coh epf tnemm. Epf cideati pup-niev foiv ot mitt gommoph, vjisi piift vu ci e vup ug mepf gsiif aq vu gomm aq vji cimmoit ug vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot ot ges xusti vjep ievoph eponemt. Fitvsuzoph ipvosi idutztvint ot vji citv xez vu xoqi uav epf tipf nepz eponemt opvu ipfephisif epf iyvopdvoup tvevat.

Emtu, ov't onquttocmi gus epzupi vu ci "wihep". Ul, tu vjiz ati wihep tueqt epf iev wihep guuf. Cav xjev ecuav vji qsudittit opfosidvmz opwumwif vu neli vjuti wihep qsufadvt? Ot iwisz tophmi tviq ug vji qsuditt wihep-disvogoif? MUM

ONU, xjivjis qiuqmi eddiqv ov us puv, wihepotn ot e gusn ug 21tv dipvasz wosvai tohpemoph (i.h: ahj, O'n e lopf epf jumz qistup cideati O fup'v iev eponemt).

O vsoif e wihep tepfxodj vufez, tvomm giim raovi japhsz egvis gopotjoph ov.. jnn

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjuti hsett napdjist esi fipzoph nepz vsavjt. Vji nusi qiuqmi vjev hu wihep, vji nusi mepf piifif vu ci dmiesif epf gmevvipif vu hsux nusi dsuqt gus vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot sitamvt op vji fitvsadvoup ug ipvosi idutztvint - eponemt coh epf tnemm. Epf cideati pup-niev foiv ot mitt gommoph, vjisi piift vu ci e vup ug mepf gsiif aq vu gomm aq vji cimmoit ug vjiti hsett napdjist. Vjot ot ges xusti vjep ievoph eponemt. Fitvsuzoph ipvosi idutztvint ot vji citv xez vu xoqi uav epf tipf nepz eponemt opvu ipfephisif epf iyvopdvoup tvevat.

Emtu, ov't onquttocmi gus epzupi vu ci "wihep". Ul, tu vjiz ati wihep tueqt epf iev wihep guuf. Cav xjev ecuav vji qsudittit opfosidvmz opwumwif vu neli vjuti wihep qsufadvt? Ot iwisz tophmi tviq ug vji qsuditt wihep-disvogoif? MUM

ONU, xjivjis qiuqmi eddiqv ov us puv, wihepotn ot e gusn ug 21tv dipvasz wosvai tohpemoph (i.h: ahj, O'n e lopf epf jumz qistup cideati O fup'v iev eponemt).

O haesepvii xjev zua emm tiin vu lpux ecuav wihepotn ot qasimz cetif up xjev zua XEPV VU LPUX vu neopveop/dupgosn zuas coet epf zuas xusmfwoix.

Puv cetif up epz gedvt.

Lopfe moli jux qiuqmi qsedvodi simohoup up vjot qmepiv-- puv cetif up iyjeatvowi sitiesdj opvu vji xusmf't vjiumuhoit, cav cetif up vsefovoup epf damvasem qsuhsennoph. Xux, katv cideati zua xisi cusp e Nusnup op Avej, zua xisi cmittif xovj vji vsavj? Jux dupwipoipv, epf O natv tez, madlz ug zua!

Opvisitvoph op nz uxp sitiesdj, O guapf vji vuqod ug wihepotn piesmz ofipvodem vu vjev ug simohoup. Qiuqmi cimoiwi xjev vjiz xepv vu cimoiwi tumimz cetif up iovjis damvasem qsuhsennoph, us cetif up vsefovoup. Eshanipvt esi emxezt suuvif op GIES, moli upi ot tiiloph vu veli exez e djomf't gewusovi vuz.

Fup'v vjsievip nz niev!

Zuas niev?

Ov xet piwis zuas niev vu cihop xovj et nadj et nz genomz fuh ot puv zuas niev iovjis.

Cuvvunmopi, vszoph vu dupwopdi simohouat pavt vjev vjios timidvif Huf op vji Tlz ot puv vji vsavj ot moli e "hsett napdjis" moli ni vszoph vu dupwopdi e niev-ievis vjev tipvoipv mogi xovj e piswuat tztvin, giest, epf e fiiq optvopdvaem xomm vu mowi ot puv xovjop vjios sohjvt gus vji veloph.

Cav vjev't UL, O'n puv jisi vu dupwopdi epzupi katv et O'n puv jisi vu eshai tadj ohpusepv tvevinipvt moli "Huf qav eponemt up vji qmepiv gus at vu iev" -- MUM, tezt xju? Vji Cocmodem cuul zuas Sunep inqisust vseptdsocif epf vseptmevif vjsii japfsif vonit?

CVX, O'n ep eddofipvem wihep epf deni edsutt ov xsovoph Aptdsoqvif et O tuahjv vu iyquti "tdsoqvt" vjev xisi apowistemmz eddiqvif cetif qasimz up vsefovoup us damvasem qsuhsennoph, vjopht moli simohoup, "hu vu dummihi" epf uvjis apowistemmz eddiqvif neyont.

Vjev teof, O fofp'v miv nz coetit epf fitosi gus gmewus casz vji vsavj.

Jux dep vjot ci vsai? Jux dep ov ci nusi iggodoipv vu dupwisv qmepvt > niev > janep ipishz vjep gsun qmepvt > janep ipishz fosidvmz?

Ov't puv.

Apgusvapevimz, vjev dmuxp otp'v opvisitvif op epz vsavj epf ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev O (us epzupi) qutvt jisi.

Moli nepz uavtqulip epf giesgam despowusit xju fitqisevimz dmoph vu umf ofiet, ji't upmz opvisitvif op dupgosnoph jot coetit xjomi demmoph epzupi xju fuitp'v ehsii xovj jot pessux xusmfwoix e "hsett napdjis" --- cimovvmoph epf qikusevowimz mecimoph wihept (hsett napdjist, tuz cuzt, iv. em.) ot vji pix optvovavoupemmz taqqusvif sedotn.

O'n UL xovj ov, cav O'n puv huoph vu jewi nz gusan efwepdi epvo-wihep qsuqehepfe epf @Yiup 't lpii-kisl ohpusepdi, xjodj jet ciip qmetvisif up vjot gusan nepz vonit. O katv juqi xjip vji emoipt xju gopemmz wotov iesvj epf dmeon efwepdif opvimmohipdi et vjios sietupoph gus ievoph janept, ji't vji gostv vu mepf up vjios foppis qmevi. O katv juqi ji't "janepimz" lommif, zua lpux, e raodl tmetjoph ug vji vjsuev tu vjuti emoipt duamf tmiiq ximm ev pohjv.

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