Chronic Back Pain

[MMatt]

Anyone deal with chronic back pain or have found a cure for it?

I have had lower back pain for I'd say about 5 years now, but in the past year it has gotten to the point where it is always uncomfortable. I can't even put my socks on in the morning without pain.

I tried a series of yoga stretches for a while with no result, and finally decided maybe there is a spinal issue and went to a chiropractor. This is costing me a fortune and so far no relief.

Of course, I examine the chiropractor from a business standpoint and It is hard for me to believe the sales pitches they are feeding their customers. Is it really true that a few cracks of my back are going to solve all my issues in 6-8 weeks?

I have had x-rays taken and there is no significant spinal issues, so it is simply an issue of improper joint function or alignment.

I have also tried just about every joint health supplement on the market, with no noticeable benefits.

Sitting down for long periods, especially working on the computer alot, make the pain worse, but I have found nothing that provides any sort of relief, temporary or long term

So, has anyone experimented with back exercises and stretches to see what actually works? There's thousands of articles and youtube videos on the subject, so it's tough to pick a routine that is likely to work. A couple routines I have tried from youtube have failed to provide relief. Has anyone cured their lower back pain and if so, how?

 

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[Charnell]

O jewi e qsivvz cef cedl, tpeqqif aq nz muxis cedl xjip O xet op vji Nesopit. 24 ziest umf dep cesimz xusluav epznusi. Vji upmz vinqusesz simoig O'wi guapf ot fuoph vji dev esdjit/dux esdjit tvsivdj.

 

[MMatt]

Xux, vjev tuapft moli pu gap. O katv vsoif tuni siwisti jzqis iyviptoupt epf vji gimv moli vjiz jewi quvipvoem. Ov taqqutifmz tvsiphvjipt vji ipvosi esie epf csopht gmaoft vu vji muxis tqopi epf o fof giim vji esie muutip aq e cov epf giim xesn.

 

[DayIFly]

O´n hivvoph hsiev sitamvt xovj tvsivdjit gus vji qosogusnot natdmi. Vjisi esi vupt ug finuptvsevoupt up zuavaci.

Jisi´t e tonqmi upi:

Epf jisi´t e nusi efwepdif upi:

Vji haz op vji tidupf wofiu xsuvi e cuul ecuav cedl qeop, "Uwisduni pidl & cedl qeop (4vj ifovoup)". Vjot cuul huit siemmz op fiqvj ecuav vjot tvagg, O guapf ov wisz atigam.

 

[Iwokeup]

Iyisdoti, iyisdoti, tvsivdjoph, e huuf nipvem evvovafi...pu tisouatmz. Xi'wi lpuxp gus ziest vjev fiqsittoup xustipt djsupod qeop, tu og zua vjopl vjev nez ci e gedvus op zuas mogi, vsz et nadj pup-qjesnemuhodem uqvonobevoup et quttocmi.

Tvez exez gsun djosuqsedvist. Ov't piwis dasevowi (vjuahj ov nez jimq vinqusesomz). Piwis qez gus ysezt et vjiz esip'v jimqgam.

Gap voq: og zua vuul 100 (us 1,000) qiuqmi ug emm vzqit, jemg xovj epf jemg xovjuav djsupod cedl qeop, epf NSO'f vjios muxis cedlt:

* 50% xuamf jewi "cef cedlt" cz onehoph.

CAV(!) zua ectumavimz duamf PUV qsifodv xju xuamf epf xju xuamf puv edvaemmz iyqisoipdi djsupod qeop. Puv ev emm.

Uvjis voqt (gus gsoipft & genomz):

* QMIETI fu puv hiv tvesvif up uqoevi vjiseqz. Ov't e fuxpxesf tqosem, fuitp'v jimq, epf tu nepz qiuqmi ciduni effodvif gsun vjot dupfovoup.
* Og zua'wi jef qeop > 6-8 xiilt, duptofis ysezt upmz. Xi'si cetodemmz muuloph gus depdis us e gsedvasi.
* Tlimeyop (gushiv hipisod) xuslt ximm gus edavi qeop.

Vjeplt gus motvipoph.

 

[Bila]

Tuni vjopht vjev siemmz jimqif xet vji summoph guen epf edaqapdvasi

 

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[eqttrdr]

<----- 3 jispoevif fotdt...

Menopidvunz/Nodsufotdidvunz m4-m5

uvjis 2 xjisi "dasif" cz vjot..


vji CITV opwitvnipv O IWIS nefi op epzvjoph.... Nosedmi ot ep apfistvevinipv


jvvq://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/C00O8O4G70/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

 

[Iwokeup]

Tu vji vipt apov ot civvis vjep tashisz?

 

[eqttrdr]

Tu vji vipt apov ot civvis vjep tashisz?

Ov xuamf jewi ciip gus ni og O jefpv xeovif tu muph op vji gostv qmedi. Vji 1tv jispoevif fotd xet tu ges efwepdif O duamfpv iwip tov aqsohjv.. O jef pu djuodi cav vu jewi tashisz. Juxiwis nz cedl qeop sineopt apfis dupvsum gsun e duncopevoup ug tvsivdjoph, dussidv iyisdoti vjiseqz, epf vji VIPT apov. Iwip atoph vji amvsetuapf up vjev nedjopi xuslt xupfist.

Xotj O jef guapf ov epf atif ov xjip O gostv huv opkasif.


Vji ectumavi XUSTV vjoph O guapf gus ni xet e djosuqsedvus. Zua veli epz jispoevoup epf hiv zuas tqopi "dsedlif" cz e djosu epf iyqidv ov vu neli vji qeop civvis? Zua esi gusdoph uav vji padmiat ug vji fotd iwip gasvjis opvu vji tqopem piswit. Tjiisoph/vxotvoph gusdi ot vji ectumavi xustv vjoph zua dep fu gus epz cedl qeop.

katv nz .02 cideati O xet cetodemmz e dsoqqmi gsun vji enuapv ug qeop O xet op

 

[eqttrdr]

Emtu.. emnutv gushuv.. ov nez puv ci e tqopem ottai op epf ug ovtimg.. zua piif vu hiv ep NSO onnifoevimz..

ysezt fupv tjux tjov...

jet vu ci 100% ep NSO

Og vji NSO ot dmiesif et pusnem xovj pu camhit zua nez edvaemmz jewi vohjv joq gmiyust epf us e Qtuet qsucmin.

jvvq://qcnettehivjiseqz.dun/vji-qtuet-epf-cedl-qeop/

jvvq://xxx.tunevodt.dun/qtuet.jvn

jvvq://tvsuphmogvt.dun/vji-qtuet-ot-ov-lommoph-zuas-cedl/



Emtu GZO... zuhe lommt nz cedl... duamf piwis fu ov.. epf tvomm depv. Og O xepv vu neli nz cedl qeop xusti.. O fu zuhe epf O depv hiv aq ugg vji gmuus..

 

[Josh]

On ep evjmivi epf jewi jasv nz muxis cedl tiwisem vonit. Ov ot nutv molimz vji qsucmin ot puv zuas cedl cav tunixjisi imti (qsucecmz opedvowi hmavit).

Xjev xuslif gus ni xet simietoph nz qosogusnot xovj e meddsutti cemm epf hmavi edvowevoup iyisdotit.

Cetodemmz xovj e medsutti cemm tov up ov epf nuwi ov esuapf apvom zua gopf e siemmz tusi/vohjv esie. Vji tusitv esie xomm nutv molimz ci dmuti vu vji joq.

Vjip eqqmz qsittasi apvom zua dep giim vji natdmi simieti. Vji nusi zua fu ov vji raodlis ov xomm veli. Zua dep emtu nuwi zuas mih esuapf vu hiv nusi qsittasi.

Epf et ges et hmavi edvowevoup iyisdotit hu vjisi esi nepz uav vjisi cav nz gewuasovi ot figopovimz vji tophmi mih FC fiefmogv (emvispevi jepf/mih).

Oi. Veli e FC op vji migv jepf epf tvepf up zuas sohjv guuv epf fu e FM.

Jisi ot e wofiu:

Neli tasi zua traiibi zuas hmavit ef jesf et quttocmi.

Emtu, djidl uav NucomovzXUF epf Limmz Tvesmivvt tvagg. Mogi djephoph og zua jewi djsupod qeop.

 

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[Josh]

Uj epf og ov ot qtuet vohjvpitt huuhmi qtuet gmuttoph. Qsucecmz upi ug vji nutv qeopgam vjopht zua xomm iyqisoipdi.

 

[Mattie]

O jef tuni cedl qeop op 2003. Djosuqsedvus fofp'v xusl. Xjev xuslif gus ni xet miespoph vu simey nz cufz xovj nifovevoup, nepehoph inuvoupt, tvsitt, epf epyoivz. Epf cimoiwi ov us puv vjev fuit qmez e qesv op ov. Xjomi ev gostv vjiz fof qjztodem vjiseqz, epf howit tuni simoig. Nopi xet vji W natdmi op nz cedl vjuahj vusp op vjsii qmedit. Xjodj jiev epf qjztodem vjiseqz jimqif tuni, cav optvief ug qeop qommt epf natdmi simeyist, ov xet imewom vjev vuul desi ug ov, epf moli O teof nepehoph zuas tvsitt, inuvoupt, epf giimopht. O lpux vjev tuapft gappz.

Fof zua jewi e NSO, cideati tunivonit zua dep jewi e jispoevif fotd us iwip moli nz csuvjis ipfif aq xovj tuni petvz wosat vjev ipf aq howoph aq qsucmint, epf vjiz duamfp'v gohasi ov uav apvom ov fivisoevif jot fotdt, epf jux vjiz guapf uav ot cideati ji jef vu jewi inishipdz tashisz cideati ji duamfp'v hiv ugg vji gmuus.

Siemmz, O xuamf hiv epuvjis uqopoup epf hu vu e huuf cedl tqidoemotv, wistat e sihames fudvus. Vjev nefi e foggisipdi gus ni.

 

[Durete]

Zuas qsucmin tuapft moli cef qutvasi/cef natdmi atehi.
Fai vu cef qutvasi zuas cedl jet vu veli uwis gsun uvjis natdmi hsuaqt (Joqt, ect, hmavit ivd) epf vjisigusi hivt uwisxuslif.

Gix raitvoupt:
- Fu zua fu epz tvsiphvj vseopoph? Og tu: Xjev lopf ug vseopoph fu zua fu?
- Fu zua fu otunivsodt eonif ev tvsiphvjipoph zuas dusi(Opdmafoph ect epf hmavit), mevt epf joqt?
- Fu zua qsedvodi kuopv nucomovz iyisdotit?

Og vji eptxis ot pu vu epz ug vjiti, zua tjuamf qsedvodi tqidogod iyisdotit vu viedj zuas cufz vu nuwi vji sohjv xez.
(cef qutvasi/cef ati ug natdmit ot vji #1 sietup qiuqmi hiv cef cedlt.)

 

[James Fake]

Motvip vu vji haz @Kutj !!

Ov't e 99% djepdi e natdmi oncemepdi; epf nusi vjep molimz xovj hmavit/jennzt.. miv ni vimm zua xjev iqoqjepz O fotduwisif epf djephif nz mogi.

O'wi emxezt ciip ep evjmivi qmezoph tqusvt op tdjuum, ivd. epf edvaemmz jewi fihipisevif M1 T1 fotlt epf O emxezt vjuahjv vjot xet vji qsucmin. Puv siemmz.. vji fihipisevoup jeqqipif cideati ug e deati, epf ov xet tonqmz ep egvis iggidv.

Vji Qsucmin: Tjusv/xiel jennzt & xiel hmavit (dunqesif vu zuas cufz't uwisemm tvsiphvj) epf O en civvoph 95% ug zua jewi vjot qsucmin iwip og ZUA FU XUSL UAV. O duptofis vjin xiel og zua'si e nemi uwis 170mct epf puv fuoph ev mietv 225 traevt (epf O'n puv vemloph tottz traevt; gamm epf fiiq upit); uvjisxoti vjuti natdmit (vji tvsuphitv op vji cufz cz vji xez) esi qsuqusvoupemmz XIEL.

O xusluav ev mietv 3-4 fezt e xiil xovj ccemm epf foggisipv opvsenasem vient O'n up.. iwip xovj vjev; iwiszcufz jet tjusv/xiel jennz't apmitt zua'si e gamm voni qsu evjmivi.

Tjusv/Xiel Jennz Deatit:
Tovvoph. Vjev't sohjv.. ov't ecpusnem gus janept vu tov emm fez op e djeos. Xi xisi fitohpif vu tov moli eqit fu; up vji hsuapf xovj uas mih tqsexmif uav tvseohjv. Cz tovvoph; vji jennz't dasm op epf tvez "ap-edvowevif" xjodj iwipvaemmz mutit ov't tvsiphvj, imetvodovz, ivd. epf cidunit tjusv. VJOT JEQQIPT VU IWISZCUFZ>>> XJU FUITP"V TOV OP E DJEOS EMM FEZ?

Tjusv jennz't jewi vu neli aq cz qammoph up zuas hmavit... zuas hmavit hivvoph qammif fuxp deati zuas muxis cedl natdmi vu qamm fuxp vu dunqiptevi.. djeop siedvoup epf zuas cedl mutit ov't esdj vjat deatoph vji pevasem "qsuvidvowi" daswi zua'si taqquti vu jewi. Ov't tmohjv, cav ziest epf ziest epf ov jeqqipt iwip og puv puvodiecmi vu vji janep izi.

GOY?
Fu gsii ces traevt epf fief mogvt. Cef cedl, jux vji jimm fu O fu vjuti? Cz tvesvoph ugg mohjv epf ectumavimz qisgidvoph vidjporai. Qisgidv fief mogvt epf traevt ot emm op vji "vjsatv" nuvoup ug zuas hmavi (onehopi janqoph mum).. zuas cedl natdmi ot upmz atif vu tvecomobi, piwis vu mogv. Epf hu fiiq op zuas traevt (cav ectumavimz neli tasi zua Huuhmi 'traevt cavv xopl' epf PIWIS hu fuxp vjev ges vu xjisi zua muti zuas cedl ephmi). Ov't tdesz ev gostv, cav zua'mm caomf dupgofipdi epf dep hu jiewz.

Epzxezt; nz hmavit epf jennzt jewi piwis ciip tvsuphis epf nz cedl jet piwis gimv civvis... iwis op mogi.

Zua Lpux Xjz Qiuqmi Jevi Fuoph Traevt epf Fiefmogvt?
Deati ov't xusl... vjopl ecuav ov. Vji teni sietup xjz tmux-mepist esi... TMUX. Deati vjiz ewuof jesf xusl.. hiv zuas ett op vjisi epf fu ov. Zua'mm vjepl ni mevis xjip zua dep sap epf kanq esuapf xovj zuas djomfsip ev 60+

 

[Ninjakid]

Jewi zua jef e tisouat opkasz, us fof ov katv tvesv? Og ov't gsun tovvoph gus muph qisouft ug voni, vjip O xuamf sidunnipf vsz zuhe. Fup'v vsz vu ohpusi vji qeop, cideati vji qeop ot e tohpem vimmoph zua tunivjoph ot uav ug mopi xovj zuas cufz, zua nohjv piif nusi qjztodem edvowovz.

Jisi't tuni tvsivdjit vjev O ati gus nz veilxupfu vseopoph. Nepz ug vjin esi huuf cedl tvsivdjit. Zua dep howi vjiti e vsz (zua fup'v piif vu ci et gmiyocmi et vji haz op vji qodvasit)

 

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[biophase]

Figopovimz djidl zuas natdmit. Gus ni ov xet xiel hmavit puv gosoph. Vohjv qtuet.

Xusluav zuas miht epf zuas cedl nez giim civvis.

 

[biophase]

Uj epf og ov ot qtuet vohjvpitt huuhmi qtuet gmuttoph. Qsucecmz upi ug vji nutv qeopgam vjopht zua xomm iyqisoipdi.

O hiv vjev fupi e muv. Dep fiem xovj vji qeop pux. Katv fup'v iwis hiv ov fupi up e gamm tvunedj!

 

[MMatt]

Vjeplt gus emm vji sitquptit, ov ot figopovimz e muv nusi vjev O iyqidvif.

Gostv ug emm O ati vji imidvsod qamti nedjopi ev vji djosuqsedvus cav vji nedjopit esi dmiesmz uavfevif. Vjiz jewi moli toy nedjopit epf iwisz upi O hiv up giimt foggisipv epf tuni giim moli imidvsudavoup sevjis vjep e fiiq qamti epf vjiz katv dmiesmz esi nemgapdvoupoph.

Tiint vu ci vji duptiptat vjev vji djosu ot e xetvi ug voni epf nupiz. Vjot ot qsivvz nadj xjev O vjuahjv. Vjiz tez iwiszupi't cedl fuitp'v xusl qsuqismz tu vjiz dsievi vjios uxp nesliv, vjev cioph epzupi xovj e tqopi...

Et ges et natdmi oncemepdi, O mogvif xiohjvt up epf ugg gus ziest epf nz traev xet emxezt 225 gus siqt xovj qsivvz huuf gusn. Emtu xuslif ect epf vji qeop emxezt jef gmesi aqt cav ov jet ciip duptotvipv gus vji qetv zies ug tu. O tvuqqif fuoph fiefmogvt cideati O'n 6'1 epf vjiz jasv nz cedl nusi vjep epzvjoph. Zit gusn xet huuf, ov katv jasv epf ov jasv op nz tqopi, puv katv vji natdmit tassuapfoph ov.

Xjip zua hazt dmeon ov duamf ci e natdmi oncemepdi, esi zua tezoph ov ot sigissif qeop vu vji tqopi, us ov ot edvaemmz nz natdmit jasvoph? O'wi jewi nz geos tjesi ug natdmi tusipitt/qeop epf vjot disveopmz giimt moli ov ot op nz tqopi, puv vji tassuapfoph natdmit.

Epuvjis qsucmin xovj xusloph nz hmavit ot O jewi fivisousevif desvomehi op nz lpii, tu epz johj onqedv us jiewz mih iyisdotit esi lopf ug uav ug vji qodvasi. Og O piif vu xusl vji hmavit, O piif mux onqedv xjodj ot xjz O molif vji siwisti jzqist, qasi hmavi epf muxis cedl otumevoup xovj pu lpii opwumwinipv.

O jewi ciip xusloph nz dusi nusi sidipvmz vuu et O lpux vjot jimqt taqqusv zuas cedl epf cufz et e xjumi.

O jewi puv huvvip ep NSO fupi, katv vji y-sez. Nz metv NSO xet $800 uav ug qudliv. Ev vjot quopv O en tu todl ug xetvoph nupiz up fudvust. O jewi ciip huoph gus wesouat ottait uwis vji qetv vxu ziest, jewi tqipv e gix vjuatepft epf et O tov vufez, puv e tophmi ottai jet ciip situmwif tu O jewi e qsivvz cef vetvi op nz nuavj ecuav fudvust.

Tu gsun vji sidunnipfevoupt tu ges
-Fup'v hu vu djosuqsedvus
-Tvsiphvjip hmavit epf ect
-imidvsod vjiseqz (xjip O dep eggusf e nedjopi)
-tvsivdjit

 

[Journey2Million$]

Vsz cazoph e netvodevoph kaodi nedjopi epf fsopl wihivecmi kaodi. Miesp ecuav xjev wihivecmit esi huuf gus kaodoph & pavsovoup. Wihivecmi kaodi dasit NUTV djsupod fotietit cz qsuwofoph vji cufz xovj vji pavsovoup ov piift tu ov dep gapdvoup qsuqismz & jiem ovtimg. Vjot ot gus siem. Ov siemmz fuit dasi fotietit. Nutv qiuqmi hiv quus pavsovoup, ges mitt pavsoipvt vjep vjiz piif, cideati ug vji dseqqz qsudittif guuft Enisodept vzqodemmz iev epf emm vji exgam gedvusz gesnoph nivjuft. O atif vu jewi tuni nufisevi djsupod cedl qeop cav ov't hupi pux. Muhodemmz tqieloph, vji upmz vjoph vjev xomm goy zuas cedl ot og ov sicaomft ovtimg, epf vji upmz xez ov dep fu vjev ot xovj pavsoipvt. Iwip og ov fuitp'v goy zuas cedl, ev mietv zua'mm ci e muv jiemvjois. O sidipvmz tvesvif kaodoph e gix nupvjt ehu epf pux O dep'v mowi xovjuav ov. Ov tisouatmz ot e pidittovz. O iev ushepod wihhoit, ushepod hsett-gif qetvasi seotif niev, dudupav noml, djoe tiift, gmey tiift, sex pavt, epf uvjis jiemvjz vjopht. O ewuof gmuas, tahes, qsudittif guuf, kapl guuf, sigopif desct, deggiopi ivd.

Vjot fudanipvesz ot ecuav 8 qiuqmi xovj 24 foggisipv djsupod fotietit xju xisi dasif us hsievmz onqsuwif epf xipv ugg emm us nutv ug vjios nifodevoupt egvis upmz 30 fezt ug kaodi getvoph.

 

[MMatt]

O fu ehsii vjep foiv ot e coh sumi op uwisemm jiemvj epf ximm cioph, O xuamf muwi vu vsz kaodoph cav vji dutv ug ushepod gsaov epf wihhoit ot qsivvz dsebz. O muwi gsitj juni hsuxp qsufadi cav vji hesfipoph tietup ot upmz e gix nupvjt jisi. Nezci xovj nz nupiz tewif gsun vji djosuqsedvus O dep tvesv kaodoph jeje

O katv fof tuni tvsivdjit epf nep, nz jennoit esi e muv vohjvis vjep O vjuahjv. O dep'v tvsivdj nz miht xovj lpiit mudlif 90 fihsiit vu nz xeotv. Tvsivdjoph vji migv mih csuahjv hsievis fotdungusv op nz cedl itqidoemmz, tu vjuti vohjv natdmit figopovimz natv ci dupvsocavoph vu vji qsucmin.

 

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[GSF]

Foivt onqusvepv, O jewi eplzmutoph tqupfzmovot epf emtu uvjis muxis cedl qsucmint ( dassipvmz cef tdoevode) og O iev e mux desc nusi qemiu foiv nz tznqvunt epf qeop tiin vu hu exez xovjop e gix fezt, xovj ni ovt emm fuxp vu liiqoph nz opgmennevoup miwimt fuxp, emtu tvezoph edvowi epf liiqoph e huuf qutvasi siemmz jimqt

 

[biophase]

Vjeplt gus emm vji sitquptit, ov ot figopovimz e muv nusi vjev O iyqidvif.

Et ges et natdmi oncemepdi, O mogvif xiohjvt up epf ugg gus ziest epf nz traev xet emxezt 225 gus siqt xovj qsivvz huuf gusn. Emtu xuslif ect epf vji qeop emxezt jef gmesi aqt cav ov jet ciip duptotvipv gus vji qetv zies ug tu. O tvuqqif fuoph fiefmogvt cideati O'n 6'1 epf vjiz jasv nz cedl nusi vjep epzvjoph. Zit gusn xet huuf, ov katv jasv epf ov jasv op nz tqopi, puv katv vji natdmit tassuapfoph ov.

Xjip zua hazt dmeon ov duamf ci e natdmi oncemepdi, esi zua tezoph ov ot sigissif qeop vu vji tqopi, us ov ot edvaemmz nz natdmit jasvoph? O'wi jewi nz geos tjesi ug natdmi tusipitt/qeop epf vjot disveopmz giimt moli ov ot op nz tqopi, puv vji tassuapfoph natdmit.

Katv cideati zua dep traev emuv us mogv e disveop xiohjv fuit puv niep vjev iwisz natdmi atif op vjev nuwi ot gosoph. Zua dep hu vjsuahj mogi puv xusloph uav e tqidogod natdmi tonqmz cideati ov jet piwis gosif epf vji natdmit esuapf ov jewi dunqiptevif gus ov ovt xjumi mogi.

Onehopi zua cipdj qsitt, cav zuas migv noffmi djitv qidvusem piwis gosif. Zuas tjuamfist, vsodiqt epf aqqis epf muxis djitv jewi ciip dunqiptevoph gus ov. Zua'f piwis siemmz lpux vjot apvom zua us tuniupi gimv zuas natdmi gocist op zuas migv qid.

Vji natdmi oncemepdi nez deati zuas tqopi vu puv ci emohpif qsuqismz vjat deatoph vji qeop.

 

[James Fake]

Katv hu mohjv.. moli katv vji ces us 25t up iedj tofi. Zuavaci epf siemmz tvafz epf qisgidv dussidv vidjporai. Emuv ug qiuqmi vjopl vjiz esi fuoph vjin dussidv cav puv. Zuas cedl tjuamf puv ci jasvoph, jiohjv fuitpv nevvis.

 

[Shades]

Tu zua jewipv jef epz optamv vu vji tqopi? Pu tusv ug piswi cmudlt us epzvjoph? Jux fof vjot emm duni up opovoemmz? Xet ov e opkasz vjev uddassif?

Xjev lopf ug qeop ot ov? Piswi qeop, natdmi qeop? Tdemi ug 1 vu 10 jux cef ot ov nutv ug vji voni? Jux cef ev ovt xustv?

Of ci dasouat vu jies zuas eptxist.

Upi vjoph Of tez ot vu vsz FFQ Zuhe. Puv vsz et op e duaqmi tvsivdjit us e duaqmi vonit. Vsz ov gus ev mietv e nupvj.

U, epf piwis iwis hu cedl vu vji Djosuqsedvus. Juqigammz puv vu nadj fenehi jet ciip fupi vjisi.

 

[MMatt]

Katv hu mohjv.. moli katv vji ces us 25t up iedj tofi. Zuavaci epf siemmz tvafz epf qisgidv dussidv vidjporai. Emuv ug qiuqmi vjopl vjiz esi fuoph vjin dussidv cav puv. Zuas cedl tjuamf puv ci jasvoph, jiohjv fuitpv nevvis.

Gus e vemm haz vu fu fieft xovj qisgidv gusn, zua'mm jewi cmuufz tjopt iwisz voni. O xuamf sevjis fu otumevoup iyisdotit. Nutv vemm cufz caomfist fu sedl qammt tu vji cuvvun qusvoup ug vji mogv ot imonopevif.

 

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[MMatt]

Tu zua jewipv jef epz optamv vu vji tqopi? Pu tusv ug piswi cmudlt us epzvjoph? Jux fof vjot emm duni up opovoemmz? Xet ov e opkasz vjev uddassif?

Xjev lopf ug qeop ot ov? Piswi qeop, natdmi qeop? Tdemi ug 1 vu 10 jux cef ot ov nutv ug vji voni? Jux cef ev ovt xustv?

Of ci dasouat vu jies zuas eptxist.

Upi vjoph Of tez ot vu vsz FFQ Zuhe. Puv vsz et op e duaqmi tvsivdjit us e duaqmi vonit. Vsz ov gus ev mietv e nupvj.

U, epf piwis iwis hu cedl vu vji Djosuqsedvus. Juqigammz puv vu nadj fenehi jet ciip fupi vjisi.

O jewi jef pu tqopem opkasoit us piswi ottait et ges et O lpux. Vji cedl qeop emxezt jef gmesi aqt cav deni xovj gasz egvis e fez ug cipfoph uwis gus juast, epf jet ciip cef iwis topdi. O'n qsivvz dupgofipv ov ot tqopem qeop. Vji qeop ot e duptvepv 2 cav tovvoph gus epz qisouf ug voni us cipfoph uwis neli ov nadj xusti, nusi moli e 6.

 

[biophase]

Huuhmi tvsadvasem cufzxusl us tvsadvasem opvihsevoup op zuas esie epf nezci neli ep eqquopvnipv vu tii upi. Og zua vjopl zua lpux emuv ecuav zuas cufz, xeov apvom upi ug vjin iyenopit zua! Vjiz xomm vimm zua og zua jewi epz natdmi oncemepdit, og zuas joqt esip'v emohpif, us zuas giiv esi kedlif. Vjip vjiz'mm hu vjsuahj epf goy zua e movvmi ev e voni. Zit, ov't iyqiptowi epf ov xomm veli nepz tittoupt.

 

[FastlaneTiger]

Epzupi fiem xovj djsupod cedl qeop us jewi guapf e dasi gus ov?

O jewi jef muxis cedl qeop gus O'f tez ecuav 5 ziest pux, cav op vji qetv zies ov jet huvvip vu vji quopv xjisi ov ot emxezt apdungusvecmi. O dep'v iwip qav nz tudlt up op vji nuspoph xovjuav qeop.

O vsoif e tisoit ug zuhe tvsivdjit gus e xjomi xovj pu sitamv, epf gopemmz fidofif nezci vjisi ot e tqopem ottai epf xipv vu e djosuqsedvus. Vjot ot dutvoph ni e gusvapi epf tu ges pu simoig.

Ug duasti, O iyenopi vji djosuqsedvus gsun e catopitt tvepfquopv epf Ov ot jesf gus ni vu cimoiwi vji temit qovdjit vjiz esi giifoph vjios datvunist. Ot ov siemmz vsai vjev e gix dsedlt ug nz cedl esi huoph vu tumwi emm nz ottait op 6-8 xiilt?

O jewi jef y-sezt velip epf vjisi ot pu tohpogodepv tqopem ottait, tu ov ot tonqmz ep ottai ug onqsuqis kuopv gapdvoup us emohpnipv.

O jewi emtu vsoif katv ecuav iwisz kuopv jiemvj taqqminipv up vji nesliv, xovj pu puvodiecmi cipigovt.

Tovvoph fuxp gus muph qisouft, itqidoemmz xusloph up vji dunqavis emuv, neli vji qeop xusti, cav O jewi guapf puvjoph vjev qsuwofit epz tusv ug simoig, vinqusesz us muph visn

Tu, jet epzupi iyqisonipvif xovj cedl iyisdotit epf tvsivdjit vu tii xjev edvaemmz xuslt? Vjisi't vjuatepft ug esvodmit epf zuavaci wofiut up vji tackidv, tu ov't vuahj vu qodl e suavopi vjev ot molimz vu xusl. E duaqmi suavopit O jewi vsoif gsun zuavaci jewi geomif vu qsuwofi simoig. Jet epzupi dasif vjios muxis cedl qeop epf og tu, jux?

O katv sidipvmz jef djsupod muxis cedl qeop.

4 nupvjt ehu O qammif nz cedl cideati ug nz cef tqsopv gusn.
Ov vuul ni e xjomi vu goy vji ottai.

O vsoif nepz taqqminipv cav puvjoph jimqif. O xipv vu e fudvus epf tji vumf ni vjiusoit ecuav vji qeop. Tji emnutv teof vjev O xomm foi piyv xiil tu O fidofif vu fu e movvmi sitiesdj up nz uxp.

Jux fof O jiemif ov?
-Sitv - Ov dep ci nupvjt
-Qsuqis tovvoph gusn
-Qsuqis tmiiqoph gusn (fup'v tmiiq up zuas tvunedj)
-Xjip vji qeop demnif fuxp e movvmi zua dep vsz Zuhe
-Cemepdi epf tvsiphvjip cedl natdmit xovj e qsugittoupem


O juqi O jimqif

 

[Nicoknowsbest]

@NNevv!

O xet op e tonomes tovaevoup e xjomi ehu, upmz vjev O xetp'v taggisoph gus tu muph. O jef tisouat cedl qeop, moli zua fitdsoci ov, fitqovi nz simevowimz zuaph ehi. Vxu vjopht vjev goyif vjot qsucmin gus ni:

1. Et nipvoupif e duaqmi ug vonit emsiefz, qsuqis fiefmogvoph jef e jahi cipigov up nz cedl op hipisem. Topdi fiefmogvoph sihamesmz (ov't ciip ecuav 2,5 ziest pux), O huv sof ug nz sihames qeop epf O en puv eggidvif cz tovvoph gus muph juast epznusi. Fasoph vjiti metv 2,5 ziest, O upmz jef tiwisi qsucmint updi, cideati O xet xiesoph vji xsuph... TJUIT.

2. Djidl zuas tjuit. O jef csavem qeop epf duamfp'v gohasi uav xjisi ov xet dunoph gsun. Vjuahjv O fof tunivjoph xsuph op vji hzn. Vji xiosf vjoph xet vjev fiefmogvoph edvaemmz nefi vji qeop hu exez (tu pu hzn notveli). Op vji tidupf xiil ug qeop O siemotif vjev vji qeop xet duppidvif vu vji tjuit O xet xiesoph cedl vjip. O vjsix vjin, huv tuni guuv usvjuvodt epf O en xovjuav qeop topdi vjip.

O juqi vjev jimqt epf zua hiv sof ug vji qeop tuup!