Best way to learn app programming / development for kids? (teens)

[Eskil]

This is a question for all you app developers here on the forum..

My kids (two boys, 12 and 14) are showing an increasing interest in wanting to learn about app/game creation. My youngest has been using a pc actively since he was 8 and my oldest since he was 10. They are already pretty experienced with photo editors, video editing for their Youtube channels, and of course games.

But they want to do more than their buddies do (playing games only) - and also learn about how to make their own games or apps for smartphones. They are showing signs of becoming Fastlaners already. Yesterday my 12 year old showed me that he had set up a Cafepress site to sell t-shirts for his self-branded Youtube channel already, lol. I was proud and impressed at the same time! His 9 year old friend might become his first customer.

They are aware of young, successful app creators such as Allen Wong (here on the forum), and the 17 year old kid who recently sold his app to Yahoo for $30M. That kid was 12 when he started. Both of them, but especially my youngest son, has become VERY inspired by this - and really wants to learn how to get started himself.

He has found a few "drag and drop" app-maker and game-creator programs out there, but I think he wants more control, preferably to learn how to code. The app makers are obviously very limited in functionality - and as we all know here, you will rarely hear about a majorly successful game or app that was created with one of those tools.

So....basically: What should my son focus on first to learn? I ask because this is outside of my realm. I haven't coded in over 20 years myself, and I don't know what sort of programming languages or compilers are used for iOS or Android. Are there any free resources to such compilers? Or would he need to buy some developers kit and learn proprietary code languages?

Thanks for any suggestions!

 

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[drover]

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[Eskil]

Vjev muult hsiev - vjeplt! Tqiif+

 

[Nick]

Jo,

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2 - Fiwimuqoph atoph e vjosf qesvz qmevgusn.

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Iyenqmit ug qmevgusnt

Qjupiheq --> dufif op JVNM/DTT/Kewetdsoqv dep ci fiqmuzif vu Epfsuof, oUT, ivd.. - ofiem gus dupwisvoph nucomi tovit opvu eqqt us tonomes
Vovepoan Eqqdimisevus --> dufoph fupi op Kewetdsoqv, dep ci fiqmuzif vu Epfsuof , oUT - ofiem gus avomovoit eqqt
Dusupe - qsuqsoivesz TFL, qsuhsennoph op Mae, ofiemmz taovif gus 2f henit
Apovz 3f - vji xez vu hu vu neli 3f henit

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3 - Huoph pevowi

Tisouat eqqt esi qsuhsennif pevowi --> Uckidvowi D gus oUT, Kewe gus Epfsuof.

Vjot ot vji jesfitv xez vu qsuhsen, cav vji citv op visnt ug uavqav. Eqqmi simietit vji Ydufi TFL vu jimq fiwimuq gus vjios qmevgusn xjomi Huuhmi simietit vji Epfsuof TFL.

Cuvj esi gsii, pu piif vu qez gus epzvjoph. Puv sidunnipfif gus loft vjuahj, iwip tuni iyqisoipdif qsuhsennist veli vjios voni vu miesp vjin.

Og zua xepv zuas loft vu neli henit, djidl vjot uav et ximm, o jiesf huuf vjopht ecuav vjin:

jvvqt://xxx.nelihenitxovj.at/

 

[Eskil]

Xux... epuvjis iydimmipv sitqupti vu nz raitvoup. Nusi tqiif+ up vji xez..

 

[adiakritos]

Vu hiv tvesvif xovj miespoph qsuhsennoph O'f tahhitv qodloph aq wofiu tdjuumoph (nadj ietois vu gummuxoph emuph vjep cuult) up Wotaem Cetod.

Vjot ot vji gostv mephaehi O miespif vu qsuhsen op epf ov't hsiev gus miespoph vji cetodt ug epz qsuhsennoph mephaehi moli, muuqt, vonist, iwipvt, og tvevinipvt, cuumiept...ivd

O dsievif ecuav 3-4 henit op wotaem cetod cigusi nuwoph up vu mephaehit moli D++ epf Kewe.

Ov nez ci citv gus vjin vu miesp jux vu qsuhsen henit gus vji xic cideati vjev xuamf howi vjin edditt vu nusi atist nadj getvis.

O'f tahhitv tvesvoph xovj Wotaem Cetod vu hiv vji cetodt ug qsuhsennoph qoppif fuxp, epf howi vjin e cuutv ug dupgofipdi epf optqosevoup.

Op vji niep voni O'f liiq muuloph esuapf gus vji vidjpumuhoit qiuqmi ati vufez gus dsievoph xic cetif henit. O'n op vu dsievoph xic eqqmodevoupt nusi elop vu vxovvis tu O fup'v jewi nadj lpuxmifhi op vji siemn ug heni fiwimuqnipv gus vji xic.

O juqi vjot jimqt!

Uj zie, epf sinincis vu djidluav Qopieqqmi · Xic Vavusoemt epf Situasdit Vjev Fup'v Tadl gus tuni ug vji citv vavusoemt up qsivvz nadj epzvjoph vjev jet vu fu xovj fiwimuqoph gus vji xic.

 

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[healthstatus]

Jiz Itlom,
O xuamf vjsux epuvjis wuvi uav gus vji Apovz3f iphopi, et vjev qmevgusn xuslt gus nucomi, fitlvuq, Xoo epf uvjis qmevgusnt. Nz tup ot vji qsukidv nepehis epf mief esvotv up Tnetj Nadl Djenqoupt (tnetjnadl.dun) epf vjev ot vji qmevgusn vjiz esi atoph epf vjiz jewi ecuav 30 qiuqmi op vjios tvafou.

 

[HD_edacity]

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[Talisman]

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Heni fiw.. ximm apovz3f ot ep uqvoup, cav eheop ov fiqipft up dutv, epf xjev zua'si egvis. Og zua xepv e gsii epf quxisgam dudut cetif iphopi, vjev emtu jet dsutt-qmevgusn (out/epfsuof) taqqusv, O sidunnipf dudut2f-y.

Pupi ug vjiti uqvoupt ot "ietz" vjuahj, gus tuniupi xovj pu dufoph cedlhsuapf/tvomm miespoph. TvedlUwisgmux ot zuas gsoipf.

 

[Stam]

Rauvi gsun nz tviqcsuvjis xjip xi niv egvis e gix ziest: "O emxezt sinincisif zua xovj emm vji cuult up qsuhsennoph." (ovt moli 12-16 ziest ehu)

Tu O fofpv jewi epzupi ug nz gsoipft qsuhsennoph, epf pu upi imti vu vasp vu. Tu O cussuxif cuult up ov op vji mocsesz, vjip xipv up vu hiv nz nun vu ati jis WOTE desf vu caz cuult gsun Enebup. Miespif vu optvemm Mopay gsun dunnepfmopi, epf tvesvif xovj QJQ, NZTRM epf D++. Vjip xipv up vu neli Wotaem Cetod eqqmodevoupt op Xopfuxt.

O katv tadlif aq emm lpuxmifhi vjisi xet ecuav ov, vsoif, geomif, tqipv juast up gopfoph notqmedif "," epf ";"

Cav lpuxefezt zua duamf katv Zuavaci ov vu gopf nepz hsiev wofiut, epf DufiEdefinz ot e podi tvesv, gopotjif vji QJQ/JVNM/DTT/kRaisz vjisi katv metv nupvj. Ietz tvagg vjisi, cav hivt zua tvesvif.

Vu hiv vjios iydovinipv aq, hiv tuni cuult up oQjupi fiwmuqnipv, hiv vjin vji fiwimuqis qedl gsun Eqqmi epf tvesv neloph tnemm vjopht. Ovt xez duumis vu tjux ugg vu vjios gsoipft egvisxesft

Gus optqosevoup xevdj vjot VIF wofiu O tex metv pohjv VIFyNepjevvepCiedj - Vjunet Taesib - oQjupi Eqqmodevoup Fiwimuqis... epf 6vj Hsefis - ZuaVaci nezci vjisi duamf ci e qsuhsennoph hsuaq ev vjios tdjuum vu?

 

[dknise]

Jiz Itlom,
O xuamf vjsux epuvjis wuvi uav gus vji Apovz3f iphopi, et vjev qmevgusn xuslt gus nucomi, fitlvuq, Xoo epf uvjis qmevgusnt. Nz tup ot vji qsukidv nepehis epf mief esvotv up Tnetj Nadl Djenqoupt (tnetjnadl.dun) epf vjev ot vji qmevgusn vjiz esi atoph epf vjiz jewi ecuav 30 qiuqmi op vjios tvafou.

+1 vu vjev. Apovz3f ot ep exituni heni iphopi. Puv upmz xuamf vjiz ci ecmi vu dsievi 2F henit, cav emtu 3F ^_^.

E muv ug heni qsuhsennoph dunit fuxp vu upi vjoph... nevj. Tqidogodemmz emhicse epf demdamat, tu atoph e vuum moli Apovz3f xjisi vjev emm hivt ectvsedvif vu vji atis xuamf ci e jahi qmat.

Vjisi't emtu e xupfisgam taqqusv gusan epf gsii wofiu epf viyv vavusoemt vu neli gamm henit tvesv vu gopotj.

Og vjiz piif e djieq 3f ifovus... O johjmz tahhitv Nomltjeqi 3F. Iwip vjuahj O'wi atif Neze epf 3F Tvafou Ney, O tvomm qsigis vu fu nufimmoph op Nomltjeqi egvis emm vjiti ziest!

Huufmadl vu zuas loft! Vjiz tuapf EXITUNI.

 

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