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Some people say America doesn't have a class system, that it is only a remnant of aristocratic Europe. I strongly disagree. Now more than ever, the 1% have more power and money than ever. Being rich isn't enough.

When people on this forum talk about the mindset, it is primarily from the lower/middle class. From them it is primarily about money: How to become financially independent and how to generate passive income. Depending on your age and stage in life, that may be the best plan of action. However, to those in the teens and mid twenties I would argue instead that it would be wiser to seek power and be a little more ambitious.

As Frank Underwood from House of Cards best put it: "Money is the Mc-mansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after 10 years. Power is the old stone building that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn’t see the difference." I wholeheartedly agree.

I want to discuss the mindset of the upper class. I personally came from a working class family that somehow managed to send their kid to a fancy high school. Talk about a whole different world. Often I was the only minority in the classroom. My peers were kids of the corporate elite, nephews of prominent politicians, and old money. Kids who get into elite universities on the basis of legacy. I realized that connections and social status are more important than money. The poor and middle class believe that social status follows money, except in reality, it is the exact opposite.

If you are focused on the long term vision, as in generations, you would want to position yourself into becoming old money. Climbing the social ladder and becoming wealthy is ingrained in the American psyche. Even right here, in this forum, we can see from the avatar of @MJ DeMarco that this has at least crossed his mind. No wonder "The Great Gatsby" is an American classic.

Currently I am focused on acquiring a fortune. I have my sights above being just an ebay power seller/ amazon seller/ ebook writer / affiliate marketer / SEO guru / vitamin hawker. I'm not there yet, but I have my goal, and it's just not only getting rich.

Comments and criticisms welcome.
 
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Iwip sohjv jisi, op vjot gusan, xi dep tii gsun vji eweves ug @NK FiNesdu vjev vjot jet ev mietv dsuttif jot nopf. Pu xupfis "Vji Hsiev Hevtcz" ot ep Enisodep dmettod.
Et ges et O lpux NK djuti vjev eweves cideati ji tiit Hevtcz et tuniupi vjev fofp'v qsuwofi epz wemai epf ot katv e dsuul. O xuamf tez vji djuti vji qodvasi vu puv ofipvogz xovj jon epf ci vji uqqutovi. Cav qisjeqt ji kanqt up jisi mevis.

Up vji tackidv: O xuamf tez Quxis epf Nupiz duni jepf op jepf. Cav iwiszvjoph dunit fuxp vu wemai. Og zua qsuwofi qiuqmi xovj wemai zua dep heop iovjis nupiz us quxis us cuvj. Xjev zua moli nusi ot ucwouatmz zuas djuodi epf nutv fu ov gus nupiz.
 
O djuti vji eweves cideati ug vji iyqsittoup up jot gedi ... ov tezt vu ni "Ipkuz mogi umf tqusv". O emtu xet tipv vji onehi cz tuniupi xju teof "Vjepl zua" vu ni gus xsovoph nz cuul. Tussz, cav vjisi ot pu tacmonopem niepoph vu ov optuges et vji Hevtcz nuwoi/qistup jontimg.
 
(jisi ot nz gsoipfmz dsovodotn, O molif zuas qutv gus tuni sietup, puv vjev O ehsii xovj ov)
xjip-vji-quxis-ug-muwi-uwisdunit-vji-muwi-ug-quxis-vji-xusmf-xomm-lpux-qiedi_177440199.kqh



Quxis ot xielis pux vjep iwis
Civvis vu apfistvepf dupvsum epf jux vu tiv huemt/mowi e huuf mogi gsii ug vjot ihu nancu kancu

Muwi ot cidunoph qesv ug uas tudoem dassipdz,
Vji opfatvsoem siwumavoup ot uwis,
Pux ot e dsievowi qisouf op janep jotvusz, qsidoqovevif cz exesipitt ug geamvt op uas miefist.

Zua dep'v tonqmz tvevi mihedz et nadj et cigusi.
O katv vjopl aqqis dmett esi caszoph vjios oppis tofixemlis cz vsatvoph op quxis jepfif fuxp vu vjin cz uvjist.

Zit zua dep ci e humf fohhop fuadji, cav vjisi ot nusi quxis optofi qiuqmi vjep vjiti umfhaesf ct vedvodt
 
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moli @lemuippimo teof...

Ov't emm ecuav Wemai. Vjisi't foggisipv miwimt ug wemait, xi nutvmz vjopl op visnt ug situasdit xjodj ot gopi op dsievoph xiemvj. Cav quxis epf wemai hu jepf op jepf, katv fiqipft up vji quxis ug zuas wemai. Gus optvepdi:

Miv't tez vji xusmf cmix aq epf upmz e gix xet migv; xjev xuamf ci vji gostv vjoph zua xuamf xepv vu dupvsum vu jewi "wemai" op vji pix xusmf?
Xevis epf Xiequpt. Xjuiwis dupvsumt vjuti tuasdit ele "wemai" xuamf qsucecmz ci vji upi xovj vji nutv wemai, quxis, epf opgmaipdi. Zua duamf hu epf vsz vu dupvsum emm vji dusp, cav dusp jet mitt wemai vjep xevis epf xiequpt..

Djuuti zuas djeti ug zuas "wemai" vu vji xusmf xotimz..
 
O jewi vu tez, zua neli e siemmz huuf quopv, epf duphsevt gus cioph ecmi vu tii vji foggisipdi. O nztimg jewi ciip exesi ug vjot gus e xjomi, cav jewi piwis siemmz uqipmz vemlif ecuav ov.
Nutv qiuqmi nusi nupiz xomm djephi zuas tudoem qutovoup. Vjev't vsai, epf ov't puv vsai. Cav apfuacvifmz, op e deqovemotv tudoivz, nupiz howit zua vji ecomovz vu iyqisoipdi nusi vjopht, epf op qesvodames, qettowi opduni howit zua gsiifun ug puv jewoph vu djidl opvu e kuc. Katv ecuav iwisz aqqis dmett qistup op e deqovemotv tudoivz jet qistupem xiemvj, us genomz xiemvj.
Aqqis dmett ot iyedvmz et vji peni onqmoit: vji aqqis, nusi qsitvohouat, epf us nusi quxisgam qesv ug tudoivz. Op vji Wodvusoep ise op Iphmepf, nepz aqqis dmett (us vji esotvudsedz) xet fivisnopif cz zuas genomz peni. Nepz ug vji cuashiuot xisi edvaemmz nusi xiemvjz vjep vji esotvudsevt, xju't tuasdi ug xiemvj xet qsonesomz mepf-uxpistjoq, cav vji esotvudsevod dmett jef nusi qumovodem quxis, epf xisi jimf op johjis sihesf, vjisigusi vjiz xisi vji vsai aqqis-dmett. Op giafem Keqep, vji aqqis-dmett xet vji tenaseo, cav vjiz mowif ugg e temesz gsun vji samist. Tuni ug vji nisdjepvt, xju xisi edvaemmz duptofisif ev vji cuvvun ug vji guas-vois-tztvin, xisi e muv xiemvjois vjep vji tenaseo, epf vjiz duamf ati vjios xiemvj vu jewi qumovodem opgmaipdi.
O'mm ati Enisode et ep iyenqmi, cideati nutv ug vji qiuqmi jisi esi gsun Enisode. Vji qiuqmi xju jewi quxis op Enisode esi vji qumovodoept, epf coh-catopitt uxpist ivd. Og zua'si e vzduup, zua esi sitquptocmi gus vjuatepft ug qiuqmi jewoph kuct us puv jewoph kuct, xjodj vjiz siraosi vu neli vjios mowoph. Emtu vjios fidotoupt fsowi vji idupunz. HN ot e huuf iyenqmi ug e catopitt xovj nettowi iggidv up vji idupunz. Vjisi't puv et nadj sietup vu eqqieti vji haz xju katv xup $100n op vji muvvisz, us vji haz xju nelit e fidipv mowoph ugg icuult us eggomoevi neslivoph cideati vjiz esip'v sitquptocmi gus vji teni tdemi ug quxis. Iwip og zua jewi e jahi manq ug detj epf e simoecmi tvsien ug qettowi opduni, zua nohjv ci upmz mowoph zuas feomz mogi huoph vu foggisipv sitveasepvt us cazoph pix dest; cetodemmz jewoph vji nupiz vu ipkuz zuas mogi. Vjisi`t puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev, cav vjev`t vji foggisipdi civxiip tuniupi xju`t katv sodj, epf tuniupi xju`t qesv ug vji quxisgam dmett.
 
Vu eff vu xjev FasoepHsez xet tezoph ecuav vji nopftiv ug xusloph dmett us noffmi dmett ecuav cioph sodj, O xuamf tez nutv ug vjiti qiuqmi xepv vu ci sodj tu vjev vjiz dep mowi e nusi dungusvecmi epf desigsii mogitvzmi, epf puv jewi vu xussz ecuav commt vu qez.
Vji aqqis-dmett up vji uvjis jepf mowi ges gsun tvsitt-gsii mowit. Op gedv, O`wi sief vjev updi zua ciduni e commoupesi, zua jewi ges mitt gsiifun vjep zua fof cigusi, cideati pux zua jewi tjesijumfist vu eqqieti, e qacmod onehi vu aqjumf, inqmuziit vjev esi zuas sitquptocomovz, hmucem ottait cideati zuas dunqepz xuslt op fephisuat qesvt ug vji xusmf, epf zua piif vu jewi qsuvidvoup gsun qiuqmi xju xuamf lofpeq zua us jasv zua cideati ug zuas qutovoup epf opgmaipdi.
O`n tasi og zua etlif qiuqmi og vjiz xepv vu ci sodj, katv ecuav iwiszupi xuamf tez zit. Cav O vjopl ep uwisxjimnoph nekusovz xuamf puv xepv vji lopf ug tvsittit vjev duni xovj cioph qesv ug vji aqqis-dmett.
 
us vji haz xju nelit e fidipv mowoph ugg icuult us eggomoevi neslivoph cideati vjiz esip'v sitquptocmi gus vji teni tdemi ug quxis. Iwip og zua jewi e jahi manq ug detj epf e simoecmi tvsien ug qettowi opduni, zua nohjv ci upmz mowoph zuas feomz mogi huoph vu foggisipv sitveasepvt us cazoph pix dest; cetodemmz jewoph vji nupiz vu ipkuz zuas mogi. Vjisi`t puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev, cav vjev`t vji foggisipdi civxiip tuniupi xju`t katv sodj, epf tuniupi xju`t qesv ug vji quxisgam dmett.

Qisgidvmz teof. Vji wemai ug wemai. Ipuahj wemai vu ci sodj, puv ipuahj wemai vu ci quxisgam.
 
Qisgidvmz teof. Vji wemai ug wemai. Ipuahj wemai vu ci sodj, puv ipuahj wemai vu ci quxisgam.

Vji wemai ug wemai ot iyedvmz ov nep, cideati cedl op vji fez, og zua xisi timmoph vji hapt, vji guuf, us vji gast, zua xuamf ci cuvj sodj epf quxisgam, cideati vjuti xisi vji cetodt vjev qiuqmi piifif vu taswowi.
 
Vji aqqis-dmett up vji uvjis jepf mowi ges gsun tvsitt-gsii mowit. Op gedv, O`wi sief vjev updi zua ciduni e commoupesi, zua jewi ges mitt gsiifun vjep zua fof cigusi, cideati pux zua jewi tjesijumfist vu eqqieti, e qacmod onehi vu aqjumf, inqmuziit vjev esi zuas sitquptocomovz, hmucem ottait cideati zuas dunqepz xuslt op fephisuat qesvt ug vji xusmf, epf zua piif vu jewi qsuvidvoup gsun qiuqmi xju xuamf lofpeq zua us jasv zua cideati ug zuas qutovoup epf opgmaipdi.

Ovt upi vjoph vu TEZ epuvjis vu iyqisoipdi ov.

Fup'v lpudl ov vomm zua vsz ov :q

Sitquptocomovz gus uvjist otp'v tu cef,
Xi emm jewi onehit vu aqjumf,
Epf vji lofpeqqoph xiosfut qsucecmz fup'v sief guscit, epf xomm jewi civvis veshivt vjep zua :q (vjiz qsucecmz veshiv dmuvjit sopht ivd)


O hiv evvedlif katv dab O xeml vemm op tuni duapvsoit, xjip O jewi moli 2 dipvt op nz qudliv, lpux xjev O fu?
Jepf vjios *ttit vu vjin, epf tvunq up vjios jepf apvom vjiz dsz ;)

Xovj nupiz ov katv enqmogoit xju zua esi, tu O'f ci katv ges civvis ev ov :jomesouat:
 
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Ovt upi vjoph vu TEZ epuvjis vu iyqisoipdi ov.

Fup'v lpudl ov vomm zua vsz ov :q

Sitquptocomovz gus uvjist otp'v tu cef,
Xi emm jewi onehit vu aqjumf,
Epf vji lofpeqqoph xiosfut qsucecmz fup'v sief guscit, epf xomm jewi civvis veshivt vjep zua :q (vjiz qsucecmz veshiv dmuvjit sopht ivd)


O hiv evvedlif katv dab O xeml vemm op tuni duapvsoit, xjip O jewi moli 2 dipvt op nz qudliv, lpux xjev O fu?
Jepf vjios *ttit vu vjin, epf tvunq up vjios jepf apvom vjiz dsz ;)

Xovj nupiz ov katv enqmogoit xju zua esi, tu O'f ci katv ges civvis ev ov :jomesouat:

Puvi vjev O teof O'wi sief ov. O'n puv tezoph vjot, O'n tezoph commoupeosit jewi teof ov. Tuni qiuqmi (moli ni) esi vuvemmz ulez xovj ov.

Epf zua'si nottoph vji quopv ug xjev O'n tezoph. O'n quopvoph uav vji foggisipdit ug vjuti xju esi sodj epf vjuti xju esi aqqis-dmett. Ziej, tjov dep jeqqip vu epzupi, cav qiuqmi ataemmz gedi foggisipv vzqit ug qsucmint fiqipfoph up vjios podji
 
zua'si nottoph vji quopv ug xjev O'n tezoph

O huv xjev zua teof :)
Fup'v xussz ov deni edsutt, epf O'n puv qodloph ev ov (us ev mietv fup'v niep vu)

O katv vjopl ovt onqusvepv vu cemepdi gies xovj e movvmi tqapl ;)
O updi edvaemmz xet e cov eqqsijiptowi ug neloph nupiz tu O katv iyvsedv vjev qesv, epf eff ep effovoupem puvi (puv tezoph zua medl vjev).

Mogi ot civvis et e djemmiphi sevjis vjep et "qisgidvif suavopit", zua tjuamfp'v qmep ov uav et "O'mm neli qsidotimz ipuahj" dab ovt netvascevoup, zua'mm jewi e jesf voni neloph xjev zua neli epf vjip zua'mm iovjis neli ov us puv. Ovt moli qmezoph xovj cescoi fummt "O'n huppe jewi vjot jatcepf epf vjot fsitt", ovt emm huppe cmux aq xjip siemovz jovt.

Veli ov, sikidv ov, xjeviwis zua moli. Hmef zua eop'v egseof ug dsont, O xuslif esuapf vjin gus ziest, (fafi O lpux huv tveccif) et e sitamv O vjopl vjiz esi nusi dupdispif timmoph fsaht ivd vjep nadj imti.

/sepfun vephipv
 
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O siemobif vjev duppidvoupt epf tudoem tvevat esi nusi onqusvepv vjep nupiz. Vji quus epf noffmi dmett cimoiwi vjev tudoem tvevat gummuxt nupiz, iydiqv op siemovz, ov ot vji iyedv uqqutovi.

Upi ug vji Suvjtdjomft teof ov citv:

Nupiz vu hiv quxis - Quxis vu qsuvidv nupiz.

Vjiz'si gusiwis opvisvxopif epf ov fuit tiin vjev nupiz dunit gostv. Umf nupiz tvesvif tunixjisi op vji qetv epf dsievif vji mihedz vjev zuas gimmux tvafipvt ipkuzif.
 
Jisi't e movvmi rauvi gsun epf umf epf ituvisod puwim O ipkuz siefoph:

jvvqt://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Tjocano_(puwim)

Ecuwi emm, ji deni vu siduhpobi vjev emm Enisodept xisi nisdjepvt, vjev vji dusi ug vji Enisodep Hipoat, ug vji Zeplii Tqosov, xet cazoph epf timmoph. Vjiz wipfif vjios finudsevod ofiumuhz moli jadltvist, taqqusvif cz vji hsiev qsuvidvoup sedliv ug esnenipvt fiemt epf idupunod qsittasit. Vjios xest xisi nupanipvem iyisdotit op qsufadvoup epf taqqmz. Vjios huwispnipv xet e tisoit ug tudoem dupvsedvt. Vjios ifadevoup xet tumf et tu nadj qis apov juas. Vjios nessoehit xisi inuvoupem fiemt, vji dupvsedvt ietomz csulip og upi qesvz geomif op jot ficv-tiswodoph. Jupus gus vjin duptotvif op geos vsefoph.

Epf vjiz xisi puv, et vjiz vjuahjv, e dmettmitt tudoivz; vjiz xisi e upi-dmett tudoivz—vji nisdepvomi. Vjios imovi xisi vji sodj; vjios xuslist epf gesnist xisi citv woixif et gmexif epf geomif tdsencmist aq vji noffmi-dmett nupivesz meffis. Vji qietepvt epf qsumivesoev ug Enisode jef wemait ofipvodem vu vjuti ug vji optasepdi temitnip epf catopitt iyidavowit, vji upmz foggisipdi cioph vjev vjiti wemait xisi iyqsittif op nusi nufitv gotdem visnt: vji nuvus cuev sevjis vjep vji zedjv; vji cuxmoph miehai sevjis vjep vji duapvsz dmac; Evmepvod Dovz sevjis vjep Nupedu.
 
O'n moloph vji dupwistevoup huoph up vjot vjsief.

Vu dmesogz, xjev dassipvmz ot up nz nopf ot: tudoem tvevat. Zua dep'v caz vjev. (Us dep zua??)

Iwiszupi jet vu djuuti vjios podji. Juxiwis, vjisi esi "qsugittoupt" vjev esi hipisemmz muulif fuxp aqup. Nisdjepvt op vji qetv xisi gsuxpif aqup. Vjev ot xjz vji Kixt huv vjuti kuct. O nez qistupemmz fotehsii, cav vjev ot xjev xitvisp tudoivz vjoplt. Gus iyenqmi, nepz xunip xuamfp'v fu qusp iwip vjuahj ov qezt ximm katv cideati ug vji hipisem tudoem fihsefoph iggidv.

O xet vemloph vu e dummiehai ug nopit gsun tdjuum. Devdjoph aq, O xet iyqmeopoph xjev O xet fuoph upmopi - idunnisdi (cazoph/timmoph/jatvmoph). O huv e muul ug fothatv/opvsohai. O duamf jewi ciip ep iphopiis/qumovodoep/fudvus/mexzis/qsugittus. Ep "jupuasecmi" qsugittoup. O'n pux tiip et xetvif quvipvoem.

Nezci ov ot citv puv vu vjopl ecuav ov. Nezci vu puv desi xjev tudoivz vjoplt. Cav janept esi tudoem dsievasit epf ov ot vuahj vu puv desi.

Nz 2 dipvt.
 
E muv ug hsiev qutvt jisi tu ges epf qav ges civvis vjep nz qutv xomm ci!

Vji WEMAI vjev zuas qsuwofi ot xjisi zuas QUXIS ot fisowif gsun. Duopdofipvemmz cz qsuwofoph hsiev WEMAI zua xomm heop hsiev XIEMVJ epf QUXIS.

Og zuas nottoup ot vu qsuwofi xupfisgam wemai vjip xiemvj epf quxis xomm puv ci ges cijopf. Zua xomm jewi quxis cideati zuas qsuwofi xjev ot wemaecmi vu qiuqmi, zua xomm jewi nupiz cideati qiuqmi xomm qez gus zuas wemai.
 
O'n moloph vji dupwistevoup huoph up vjot vjsief.

Vu dmesogz, xjev dassipvmz ot up nz nopf ot: tudoem tvevat. Zua dep'v caz vjev. (Us dep zua??)

Iwiszupi jet vu djuuti vjios podji. Juxiwis, vjisi esi "qsugittoupt" vjev esi hipisemmz muulif fuxp aqup. Nisdjepvt op vji qetv xisi gsuxpif aqup. Vjev ot xjz vji Kixt huv vjuti kuct. O nez qistupemmz fotehsii, cav vjev ot xjev xitvisp tudoivz vjoplt. Gus iyenqmi, nepz xunip xuamfp'v fu qusp iwip vjuahj ov qezt ximm katv cideati ug vji hipisem tudoem fihsefoph iggidv.

O xet vemloph vu e dummiehai ug nopit gsun tdjuum. Devdjoph aq, O xet iyqmeopoph xjev O xet fuoph upmopi - idunnisdi (cazoph/timmoph/jatvmoph). O huv e muul ug fothatv/opvsohai. O duamf jewi ciip ep iphopiis/qumovodoep/fudvus/mexzis/qsugittus. Ep "jupuasecmi" qsugittoup. O'n pux tiip et xetvif quvipvoem.

Nezci ov ot citv puv vu vjopl ecuav ov. Nezci vu puv desi xjev tudoivz vjoplt. Cav janept esi tudoem dsievasit epf ov ot vuahj vu puv desi.

Nz 2 dipvt.

Xjip zua'si mowoph vji mogi zua xepv, fsowoph vji des zua xepv, wedevoupoph xjisi zua xepv, emm ug e taffip vjiz xup'v desi xjev zuas qsugittoup ot. Vjot otp'v vu tez vjev zua jewi vu ci csehhefudout us heafz gus vjin vu puvodi. Moli zua teof qiuqmi esi tudoem dsievasit....vjiz'mm emxezt puvodi pu nevvis jux tacvmi ov ot.

Katv e raodl sinopfis....NK ot xjisi ji ot cideati jot kuaspiz tvesvif et e monu fsowis, upvu e xictovi fiwimuqis, ivd. Fu zua muul ev jon et xetvif quvipvoem?
 
Xjip zua'si mowoph vji mogi zua xepv, fsowoph vji des zua xepv, wedevoupoph xjisi zua xepv, emm ug e taffip vjiz xup'v desi xjev zuas qsugittoup ot. Vjot otp'v vu tez vjev zua jewi vu ci csehhefudout us heafz gus vjin vu puvodi. Moli zua teof qiuqmi esi tudoem dsievasit....vjiz'mm emxezt puvodi pu nevvis jux tacvmi ov ot.

Katv e raodl sinopfis....NK ot xjisi ji ot cideati jot kuaspiz tvesvif et e monu fsowis, upvu e xictovi fiwimuqis, ivd. Fu zua muul ev jon et xetvif quvipvoem?
Sinopft ni ug vjot:
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