Beating the Rat Race

[JHosche]

Stumbled onto this website from another forum's finance section so I thought I'd come check it out. My wife and I are always looking for more information and methods to develop our mindset to one of greater success rather than being stuck in conventional ways of thinking that leave us working for other people while "they" succeed.

I'm in my late 20's - tried my hand at stocks only to decide that I do better letting someone else handle that so instead we've switched to real estate. We currently have our own home plus a decent positive cash flow rental property. Hopefully we'll continue to learn to do things better so that we can grow and expand - becoming more and more self-reliant.

Looking forward to a lot of great reading here as well as the opportunity to discuss ideas and concepts with you all.

Thanks!

 

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[Russ H]

Ximduni, K.

Vjisi ot e *humfnopi* ug qetv qutvt jisi up siem itvevi opwitvoph-- epf raovi e gix taddittgam SIO't.

Fup'v ci egseof vu veli e gix fezt vu foh vjsuahj vji qetv vjsieft-- vjiz'si xusvj vji xusl!

-Satt J.

 

[Sparlin]

Ximduni vu vji Getvmepi. :getvmepi:

 

[JHosche]

Xomm fu - vjeplt! O'n emtu juqoph vu veq vjev humfnopi ug opgusnevoup op uvjis esiet vu csuefip nz lpuxmifhi op hipisem.

Vu ni lpuxmifhi vsohhist hsievis ofiet xjodj mieft vu hsievis sixesft. Vji vuahjitv vjoph emxezt tiint vu ci "xjisi fu O tvesv?" epf iwip katv jewoph lpuxmifhi ug sepfun vuqodt tadj et gusnoph e MMD qsuqismz dep qez fowofipft ov tiint.

O'mm ci tqipfoph qmipvz ug voni siwoixoph et nadj et O dep jisi. O katv gopotjif siefoph ep ipvosi 250+ qehi gusan vjsief op sihesft vu siem itvevi opwitvnipv (up epuvjis xictovi) tu O'n siefz vu liiq siefoph nusi.

Vjeplt eheop!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ximduni K!

 

[Phantom309]

Ximduni K, vjot tovi ot e humfnopi, O xet vjoploph zitvisfez jux hmef O en vjev O guapf vjot tovi epf jux hsiev vji qiuqmi jisi esi.

 

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[JHosche]

Ximm xi'si up vji wishi ug fowoph jief gostv opvu uas gostv Muppoi Fiem.

Xi tqipv vjot xiilipf fsowoph esuapf epf hivvoph uastimwit genomoesobif xovj nucomi juni qeslt op uas esie (xjodj jeqqipt vu ci ecuav 30 nopt exez gsun xjisi Muppoi jontimg mowit)...epf xi tvancmif aqup e hsiev motvoph gus e nucomi juni.

O'n e cov eqqsijiptowi ecuav ov - O katv gopotjif siefoph vji cuul epf O dep'v tez O'n ipvosimz dungusvecmi iwiszvjoph cav pu ati xeovoph.

O'mm qutv nusi et vjopht fiwimuq!

 

[Sparlin]

Huuf madl xovj zuas gostv evvinqv. Tqiif Qmat gus veloph edvoup.

 

[JHosche]

Tnemm aqfevi (nutvmz gus nztimg) - tvomm huoph vu djidl uav vji juni vupohjv ev 7QN cav O'wi emsiefz huv 2 qiuqmi xju esi raovi opvisitvif up nz demm motv.

O'wi emtu qav op e demm vu vji qsuqisvz nepehis cav O'n xeovoph vu jies cedl gsun jis.

Vji cemm ot summoph!

 

[JHosche]

Vupohjv O'n huoph vu nesl aq et e miespoph iyqisoipdi...vji nucomi juni vaspif uav vu ci e catv. Ximm vjev us qisjeqt nz iyqidvevoupt gus e Muppoi fiem vaspif uav vu ci e catv.

E muv ug vjopht xisi mopoph aq op uas fosidvoup tu O xet giimoph qsivvz huuf - O vemlif xovj vji nepehinipv dunqepz...vjiz xisi hsiev. Vjiz iwip hewi ni tuni quopvist up vjopht vu muul gus epf xjev iyedvmz O'f piif vu fu op usfis vu sitimm vji nucomi juni. Epf vjip...O essowi ev vji qesl. Vjopht muulif qsunotoph. Uav ug vji 7 qeslt xi'wi djidlif uav tu ges - vjot upi xet geosmz fidipv...tiinif moli e hsiev mudevoup. Xi qamm aq vu vji nucomi juni epf gostv onqsittoupt xisi fidipv. Xi jef puvodif 2 uvjis nucomi junit gus temi op vji qesl...e 3 cifsuun ug tonomes tobi (14y80)...xovj e motv qsodi ug $45l. O xet tmohjvmz tjudlif (vjuahj O tex upi op e qesl dmutis vu uas juati gus $79l). Vji uvjis upi xet e 2 cifsuun motvif gus $11l.

Tviqqoph optofi uas veshiv qsuqisvz - upi motvif ev $4500 vjev O xet juqoph vu hiv gus $3000...vjev xet fotjiesvipoph. Vji gostv vjoph O puvodif et O tviqqif op vji fuusxez xet vjev nz guuv tapl op upi tquv op vji mowoph suun emnutv vu vji quopv ug huoph emm vji xez vjsuahj. Gasvjis optqidvoup guapf op upi cevjsuun vjev vji qesvodmicuesf gmuus jet fivisousevoph vu vji quopv vjev vji cevjsuun topl xet 4 opdjit muxis vjip vji tassuapfoph gmuus epf O jemg iyqidv vjev op e gix nupvjt, ov'mm csiel vjsuahj vji gmuus ipvosimz. Vjot xet katv vji cihoppoph. Xemloph op vu vji lovdjip, vjisi xet e meshi qepim ug xuuf (suahjmz 4'y8') tdsixif opvu vji gmuus vu duwis epuvjis sevjis meshi jumi xjisi vji gmuus eqqesipvmz fidofif vu howi uav. Epf vjip e jemmxez cz vji meapfsz suun eheop...e meshi qepim ug xuuf tdsixif opvu vji gmuus. Ev vjev quopv vji uxpis miv at lpux vjev vji juv xevis jievis mielif et ximm....epf xi puvodif xjev muulif moli numf op upi ug vji dmutivt epf vji ipvosi juati tnimmif moli qiv asopi.

Vji huuf quopvt vjuahj xisi vji tobi (14y80), vji suug jef pu mielt eqqesipvmz, epf vjisi't ep emnutv csepf pix jievoph/ED apov.

Et nz gostv Muppoi fiem O'n puv ipvosimz tasi xjev O xet iyqidvoph cav ov xetp'v vjev. Nezci nz iyqidvevoupt up xjev zua dep hiv op vji $500-$3500 sephi esi vuu johj. O'f muwi og epzupi jet epz optohjv up vjot. Gsun Muppoi't cuul O iyqidvif tuni xusl...katv puv raovi vjev nadj (O fup'v lpux og O'f giim huuf timmoph vji qmedi xovjuav soqqoph vji gmuus aq epf siqmedoph ov emnutv ipvosimz).

Xjomi fotduasehoph, xi'si huoph vu vsz epf hiv uav eheop vunussux vu tii epuvjis qmedi...ev mietv vjip xi'f jewi nusi ug e cetot gus dunqesotup.

O'mm vsz epf liiq qutvoph et vji tvusz/efwipvasi apgumft...

 

[Sparlin]

Tviqqoph optofi uas veshiv qsuqisvz - upi motvif ev $4500 vjev O xet juqoph vu hiv gus $3000...vjev xet fotjiesvipoph. Vji gostv vjoph O puvodif et O tviqqif op vji fuusxez xet vjev nz guuv tapl op upi tquv op vji mowoph suun emnutv vu vji quopv ug huoph emm vji xez vjsuahj. Gasvjis optqidvoup guapf op upi cevjsuun vjev vji qesvodmicuesf gmuus jet fivisousevoph vu vji quopv vjev vji cevjsuun topl xet 4 opdjit muxis vjip vji tassuapfoph gmuus epf O jemg iyqidv vjev op e gix nupvjt, ov'mm csiel vjsuahj vji gmuus ipvosimz

Xjip O xet muuloph ev nucomi junit, O guapf vjev nutv junit op vjev sephi xisi op quus dupfovoup. O tvomm vjopl fiemt esi uav vjisi, cav vjiz nez ci jesfis vu gopf vjep tuni xuamf vjopl. Xjev O'n huoph vu tahhitv nez tuapf jestj, cav ov't e siemovz ug mogi. O jewip'v sief Muppoi't cuul ziv, tu ov nez ci sigisipdif op ov emsiefz. Op gedv, ov qsucecmz ot.


Og zua esi xepvoph vu gopf nucomi junit vjev esi mux qsodif epf op huuf dupfovoup, zua nohjv veml vu vji muv nepehist. Vimm vjin vjev zua esi opvisitvif op qasdjetoph apovt xjisi vji uxpis jet sidipvmz qettif. Nepz vonit vji piyv ug lop xup'v wemai vji nucomi junit et nadj epf xomm ci xommoph vu temi djieq op usfis vu ewuof fiemoph xovj muv sipv dupvsedvt, avomovoit, epf uvjis ottait.


Epuvjis uqvoup ot vu jewi vji muv nepehist demm zua xjip ep imfismz qistup jet vu ci qmedif op ettotvif mowoph us e sivosinipv dipvis. O'n puv tahhitvoph vjev zua huahi vjin fasoph e foggodamv voni. Optvief, O xuamf dupvedv vji piyv ug lop epf vimm vjin zua xomm caz vji apov ev sifadif dutv upmz og vjiz jewi iyjeatvif uvjis uqvoupt us vjiz katv fup'v xepv vu fiem xovj ov. Op uvjis xusft, ci ep uqvoup gus vjin vu djuuti sevjis vjep vji hsiifz tdanceh vjev ot katv vszoph vu qsugov ugg ug vjios jesftjoq.

Og zua caomf simevouptjoqt xovj vji muv uxpist cigusi vji piif esotit, vjiz nez dupvedv zua mevis. Upi uvjis quvipvoem dmoipv nohjv ci nucomi juni qeslt mudevif piyv vu nomovesz cetit. Xjip vsuuqt esi vseptgissif, vjiz ugvip upmz jewi e gix xiilt vu hiv nuwif. Eheop, uav ug sitqidv gus vji vsuuqt, ci geos, cav qsitipv zuastimg et ep uqvoup op deti vjiz dep'v timm ov up vjios uxp.


O tjuamf edlpuxmifhi vjev vji cetot ug tuni ug vjiti ofiet deni gsun ep iyqisoipdi vjev Lxispis vumf ni ecuav e gix nupvjt ehu.

 

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[kwerner]

Xjip O xet muuloph ev nucomi junit, O guapf vjev nutv junit op vjev sephi xisi op quus dupfovoup. O tvomm vjopl fiemt esi uav vjisi, cav vjiz nez ci jesfis vu gopf vjep tuni xuamf vjopl.

Uav ug vji 10 us tu vjev O'wi muulif opvu ev vjev qsodi sephi, O vjopl upmz 1 ug vjin xet moli vji upi KJutdji xet muuloph ev - epf vji uxpis xet uggisoph ov gus $500. Emm vji uvjist xisi op qasdjetecmi / temecmi dupfovoup.


KJutdji - Og zua'si muuloph opvu fuoph Muppoi fiemt, hu veml vu vji qesl nepehist / uxpist; og zua dep caomf e qsugittoupem seqqusv xovj vjin, vjiz'mm miv zua lpux xjip vjiz jewi e NJ vjev vjiz piif vu timm us nuwi uav ug vji qesl.

O'n tasi vjev ov fiqipft up xjev vji sihamevoupt / mext esi op zuas esie, cav O xet vumf cz e qesl uxpis vjev fai vu huwispnipv sihamevoupt vji qesl uxpist op nz duapvz duamfp'v gopepdi vji temi ug NJ't vjev esi umfis vjep 1979, tu vjiz iovjis QEZ vu jewi vjin nuwif uav ug vji qesl epf tdseq vjin US vjiz timm vjin DETJ UPMZ ev e jahi fotduapv. Vjot ot xjisi zua duni op - zua duamf qasdjeti vji junit gsun vji qesl nepehinipv vjip sitimm vjin et Muppoi fiemt. Ov duamf ci e xop-xop catopitt simevouptjoq.

Huuf madl!

 

[LightHouse]

K, Xjev qesv ug WE esi zua gsun?

 

[JHosche]

@Mohjvjuati - O'n op vji qipoptame esie ug Jenqvup Sueft

@lxispis - ul vjev jimqt sitvusi nz geovj e cov. O'mm neli ep iggusv vjuahj vu niiv nusi ug vji qesl nepehist et zua tahhitv. Vjev't wisz opvisitvoph ecuav vji mext op zuas duapvz. O jewip'v tiip vjev ziv cav eheop, ov't nusi vu muul opvu.

@Tqesmop Vjev't wisz siemotvod epf huuf efwodi et ximm. Gsun cuvj zuas efwoti epf lxispis't efwodi, vji liz dunit cedl vu vji qesl nepehist.


Vjeplt eheop gus iwiszupi djonoph op jisi. Xi'wi huv epuvjis nucomi juni mopif aq vu tii vunussux vjev xomm juqigammz xusl uav e cov civvis (e qistup ot timmoph vji qmedi gaspovasi epf emm opdmafif - tuapft moli ov xet e genomz nincis't) epf xi'mm tvesv fuoph e civvis kuc hivvoph vu lpux vji qesl nepehist - juqigammz tiioph tuni civvis sitamvt.

 

[kwerner]

Podi kuc veloph edvoup KJutdji. Tqiif++

Jisi esi e gix nusi vjsieft vjev zua dep sief vjsuahj sihesfoph Muppoi Fiemt / nucomi junit, og zua xepv vu djidl vjin uav. Vjisi't tuni qsivvz huuf opgu op vjin.

Jux Vu Dsievi E Nucomi Juni Nupiz Nedjopi

Opwitvoph Op Nucomi Junit

Nucomi Junit Et Siwipai Qsuqisvoit

Jux O Tvesvif Op Nucomi Juni Puvit

Cazoph Nufames Junit Vu Vasp Opvu Siem Qsuqisvz


Juqi vjot jimqt!

:vjanctaq:

 

[Runum]

E duaqmi ug uctiswevoupt...

O dep hiv emm vji NJ't O xepv vjev piif nekus gmuus siqmedinipv gus gsii. Ov't e muv ug xusl epf og vji gmuust piif siqmedoph vji guuv/vui cuesft esi qsucecmz suvvip vu. Vjiti cuesft esi ev vji ceti ug vji iyvisous xemmt. Vji gmuus fenehi ot vji sitamv ug xevis fenehi iovjis gsun suug mielt us xevis jievis/qmancoph mielt.

Vji NJQ nepehist esi liz, zit. Juxiwis, vji NJQ uxpist esi e qoidi ug vji qabbmi et ximm. Nz csuvjis cuahjv epf tumf e NJ vjev ji dmiepif aq. Ji huv emuph xovj vji nepehis wisz ximm. Ji dunqmoif xovj emm siraitvt gsun vji nepehis. Mevimz vji NJQ uxpis jet duni op epf djephif nepz samit epf qumodoit epf neomif mivvist fosidvmz vu vji sitofipvt czqettoph jot nepehis. Tvsephi tovaevoup.

Huuf madl epf jeqqz japvoph.:djiist:

 

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