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mariannagalvan

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Hi ! I am looking for undervalued stocks in the market to buy, I am doing analysis of some that I find interesting, but I would like to get feedback and have more options to investigate.
I'm using a translator in case something is misspelled hehe!
 
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Hi ! I am looking for undervalued stocks in the market to buy, I am doing analysis of some that I find interesting, but I would like to get feedback and have more options to investigate.
I'm using a translator in case something is misspelled hehe!
Value index ETFs
 
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If you really want to understand investing in stocks for value, you should read a book about it instead of taking random people's recommendations.

The Intelligent Investor is a good place to start. I read it a few years ago, and though a lot of it is probably not useful to you right now (preferred vs common stock etc), there are some key rules you will learn that will make a huge difference in the way you invest. The biggest lesson is investing vs. speculation.

Look at the amount of debt the company has (debt to equity ratio), look at return on equity, and train your brain to think in percentages and ratios, not numbers.

That's not the only book to read by the way, but it's a good start. Try some books.
 

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Would say Tesla, with 10 year investing horizon. Seems overvalued now, but compunding works wonders.
Stocks don’t compound. The company either grows or doesn’t.

Tesla has more competition than ever right now. The only thing of Tesla I’d buy right now is a car.
 
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If you really want to understand investing in stocks for value, you should read a book about it instead of taking random people's recommendations.

The Intelligent Investor is a good place to start. I read it a few years ago, and though a lot of it is probably not useful to you right now (preferred vs common stock etc), there are some key rules you will learn that will make a huge difference in the way you invest. The biggest lesson is investing vs. speculation.

Look at the amount of debt the company has (debt to equity ratio), look at return on equity, and train your brain to think in percentages and ratios, not numbers.

That's not the only book to read by the way, but it's a good start. Try some books.
I second this. Get a good foundational understanding and build upon it.

The sad reality is almost no one beats the market. If you want to be lazy, and probably better than average… Just DCA a bunch of SPY over the next 50 years. You’ll certainly beat the Edward Jones chump with his hand in your pocket.

Thats easy, but takes more discipline than I have, so for better or worse I “make trades.”

We have the inflation wild card to consider as well.
 
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I second this. Get a good foundational understanding and build upon it.

The sad reality is almost no one beats the market. If you want to be lazy, and probably better than average… Just DCA a bunch of SPY over the next 50 years. You’ll certainly beat the Edward Jones chump with his hand in your pocket.

Thats easy, but takes more discipline than I have, so for better or worse I “make trades.”

We have the inflation wild card to consider as well.
I try to balance everything, so I have some portion in VOO, QQQ, then some in my individual selections, then some amount for options, etc...

But the more I read, the more my strategies change, and (hopefully) improve.
 

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I try to balance everything, so I have some portion in VOO, QQQ, then some in my individual selections, then some amount for options, etc...

But the more I read, the more my strategies change, and (hopefully) improve.
Sometimes the more I think, the worse I do. I wonder sometimes if I just decided to invest like an idiot if I’d do better.

Long shot calls on Tesla for tomorrow! :rofl:
 
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Stocks don’t compound. The company either grows or doesn’t.

Tesla has more competition than ever right now. The only thing of Tesla I’d buy right now is a car.
Am of course betting on Tesla growing it's Business, and growing it more than the market prices in.
And assuming there's some correlation with business to stock price.

For illustration purposes, suppose market prices in 20 % growth for Tesla for next 10 years, would 6.2 x. If however growth is 40 % per year, would 28.9 x. Am betting, that Tesla will grow its revenues and profits more than market thinks. Will see in 2030 what happened.

Tesla does not have to sell every car. Say, Tesla would have 20 percent Ev market share in 2030. Would still leave 80 percent to competitors. To justify valuation and upside potential Tesla however needs to have good margins. But, to me It seems likely due to Teslas efficient manufacturing and additional software profits.

The Intelligent investor is great. Would also recommend Peter Lynch's investment book One up on a wall street.
 
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Join reddit.

/investing

/wallstreetbets
r/investing is OK, but r/WSB...nope unless pumping TSLA and SPY on 0 DTE calls is your thing (or watching some fool do puts on Apple :rofl: )

The sad reality is almost no one beats the market.
Yeah, if they just let their money stay parked in stocks...without accounting for sector rotation, seasonals or cycles. I find doing stocks requires a more active presence...no longer can you go passive. That means actually taking the time to research more -- besides just leaving the task to a guru or mutual fund agent.
 

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I like the idea of Beyond Meat (BYND) - but do your own research.
Yeah BYND looks pretty good ATM, the fundamentals are not looking great(P/E: N/A, P/B is above 20 which is crazily overvalued, EPS is negative, etc...), but the technical part looks okay. Could grow more than 30% from the current price, but be sure to manage your risk. It is not a safe bet right now, even though the growth potential is great.
 
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r/investing is OK, but r/WSB...nope unless pumping TSLA and SPY on 0 DTE calls is your thing (or watching some fool do puts on Apple :rofl: )


Yeah, if they just let their money stay parked in stocks...without accounting for sector rotation, seasonals or cycles. I find doing stocks requires a more active presence...no longer can you go passive. That means actually taking the time to research more -- besides just leaving the task to a guru or mutual fund agent.
Generally its a cesspool full of degenerates and addicts, but you'll find some gems in the "DD" section:

 

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If you really want to understand investing in stocks for value, you should read a book about it instead of taking random people's recommendations.

The Intelligent Investor is a good place to start. I read it a few years ago, and though a lot of it is probably not useful to you right now (preferred vs common stock etc), there are some key rules you will learn that will make a huge difference in the way you invest. The biggest lesson is investing vs. speculation.

Look at the amount of debt the company has (debt to equity ratio), look at return on equity, and train your brain to think in percentages and ratios, not numbers.

That's not the only book to read by the way, but it's a good start. Try some books.

@thechosen1 is absolutely right. If you want to get serious, you should study each company and understand whether they have potential to grow or not. You need to look at their statement and be able to understand how strong they are, how many debts they have, and so on..

This requires time and it is a job by its own. It is basically what financial analysts do.

If you are lazy, there is a work around. You could pay a financial and investing company to tell you which stocks to buy. That's a shortcut but you need to trust them and experiment by yourself.

It's is a risky business but still extremely rewarding if you know what you are doing.
 

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@thechosen1 is absolutely right. If you want to get serious, you should study each company and understand whether they have potential to grow or not. You need to look at their statement and be able to understand how strong they are, how many debts they have, and so on..

This requires time and it is a job by its own. It is basically what financial analysts do.

If you are lazy, there is a work around. You could pay a financial and investing company to tell you which stocks to buy. That's a shortcut but you need to trust them and experiment by yourself.

It's is a risky business but still extremely rewarding if you know what you are doing.
Personally I like Thomson Reuters / Refinitiv reports, offered by some brokers. A score of 7+ is a good place to start looking. Then I go to the "fundamentals" tab in my broker's screen and look at the different ratios.

If they are good, I'll consider buying. It doesn't take very long to analyze a company this way, but it can take a long time to identify the companies you want to look at.

All this being said, investing in stocks really isn't that useful until you have a good amount of capital (I mean sure, compound interest is a thing but the whole point of this forum is to not be someone who waits 45 years to enjoy their money). Without that, it's all about work, business, and action.
 
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Stocks don’t compound. The company either grows or doesn’t.

Tesla has more competition than ever right now. The only thing of Tesla I’d buy right now is a car.

I agree, less the buying the car part. ;)


too expensive for what you get IMO.
 

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I like the idea of Beyond Meat (BYND) - but do your own research.

As someone who is quite familiar with the "fake meat" space I'd stay away.

I like the product roadmap and everything, but the space is getting incredibly crowded. BYND used to be the only game in town. Now it's one of many, literally a dozen choices now, including white label brands from grocers.
 

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As someone who is quite familiar with the "fake meat" space I'd stay away.

I like the product roadmap and everything, but the space is getting incredibly crowded. BYND used to be the only game in town. Now it's one of many, literally a dozen choices now, including white label brands from grocers.
That, and the fact that this thread is titled “Undervalued Stocks” and BYND has no earnings. :rofl:
 
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As someone who is quite familiar with the "fake meat" space I'd stay away.

I like the product roadmap and everything, but the space is getting incredibly crowded. BYND used to be the only game in town. Now it's one of many, literally a dozen choices now, including white label brands from grocers.

Initially I really liked the idea of beoynd meat, and some of the other similar brands. Today though, I would simply not "buy into it" because I would probably not consider eating it myself. So what changed? Well, I happened to stumble over the book the plant paradox, and the simple idea, that plants too can be very detrimental to your health if you keep eating those with lectins not compatible with humans. And I somewhat doubt these wannabe meats is even close to be on the yes list when it comes to the lectins they contain. - lets google to check..(3 mins later)
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Now, both of these burgers, Impossible & Beyond, have been tested and found to contain glyphosate — which is a deadly disruptor to our healthspan. Plus, the main ingredient of both burgers is lectin-rich (pea or soy)
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It goes without saying that these burgers "need" to be able to sell the idea that they are a healthy alternative to meat. At least, I feel their very existence is pretty shaky the moment they cant.
 

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That, and the fact that this thread is titled “Undervalued Stocks” and BYND has no earnings. :rofl:
Exactly... How do you value a company that isn't making any money?

...I guess the same way you decide if Bitcoin is "undervalued" or not, lol
 

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Exactly... How do you value a company that isn't making any money?

...I guess the same way you decide if Bitcoin is "undervalued" or not, lol

What was the formula again.. lets see.. one part greed, mixed with 2/3 ignorance, sprinkled with some congnitive dissonanse for that pure to the moon experience?
 

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What was the formula again.. lets see.. one part greed, mixed with 2/3 ignorance, sprinkled with some congnitive dissonanse for that pure to the moon experience?
"It's down!! Buy more and HODL"

"It's up!! Buy more and HODL"

Really scientific.
 
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What was the formula again.. lets see.. one part greed, mixed with 2/3 ignorance, sprinkled with some congnitive dissonanse for that pure to the moon experience?

"It's down!! Buy more and HODL"

"It's up!! Buy more and HODL"

Really scientific.
This sounds like my exact reasoning for buying into Shiba Inu. I have some extra cash, why not? I know nothing about crypto, why not? The price dropped, buy more, why not?

I mean if the price just goes to a penny...

That's undervalue. :rofl:

TO THE MOOOOON!!!

But for real though, I like stocks that are pioneering/capitalizing on the coming AI push. This week I went with chipmakers in that space.
 
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I'm not. I was just stating fact.

I have a big jug of the stuff in the garage. I use it to kill weeds in my landscaping. I would not want to ingest the stuff.

Yeah, I intrepreted it as such Kak. So my reply was meant to be ironic =) I loved your short to the point remark. - nuff said really. Its pesticide.

Totally non-random trivia for the day: Making Kombucha is actually darn easy, once you get the hang of it.
 

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I agree, less the buying the car part. ;)


too expensive for what you get IMO.
Damn guys, don't you tease the Tesla investor

Am holding position of about 300k now in TSLA. Started first investing 7 years ago in Tesla. Switched from small Amazon bet to Tesla as I saw more potential. And still betting that Tesla will 5x or more in 10 years.

But had I - say - first started a Company, sold it and then invested to Tesla with bigger bet size, would be now much better. MJ's philosophy holds.

To tie back to topic. Great companies often look pricy. But if you have long term View and reason to believe that market does not Account for everything, the price might not be too pricy after all.
 
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