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Haha, totally open to testers :)
I'd giggle myself into a state of retardation every time I had to talk about it. Totally useless lol.
 

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UPDATE:

I got a fiverr gig to draw my design. Although it's far from completed it gives me something better to work from. A very kind person on the forum offered to take a look at the design and offer suggestions.

I paid another fiverr gig to illustrate my second idea (which is exactly the same use as the first but completely different design).

I started an instagram account and YES, I spent 45 minutes this morning superimposing dildos into a disco scene. BUSYNESS. And also, that's a sentence you're not likely to read again your whole life.

But it's slow. So slow. I had thought building an audience to pitch my product to is definitely the way to go but to do it this way is going to take FOREVER. I can of course approach sex toy reviewers and perhaps pay them to share but I need a working model/illustration to do that.

I kinda feel like I'm going round in circles.

Having read through the patent info on Gov.Uk I'm satisfied it's a registered design rather than a patent. Happy to go down this route.

In order to make both of these designs I need to find a company that will make them from scratch. I can easily find sex toy manufacturers but it isn't just a sex toy. So they'd need to do something they don't - does that make sense?

I literally don't have a clue how to find someone that can make both of these from scratch. THAT IS OF COURSE IF I EVEN NEED TO. I'm thinking post-validation of course...

Gah.

My head hurts :)
 

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Kind of counter to my original post (which is still true), but there is money everywhere if you're able to make a product which captures the right attention. The Autoblow thing above captured my attention when it showed the BJ action. I started imaging it. That's the type of marketing that stimulates sales.
 

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there is money everywhere if you're able to make a product which captures the right attention.
This is what I'm attempting to do.

My product isn't a sex toy as such.

From what I can see there are millions of sex toys available.The market is saturated. Unless you're going to come up with something completely revolutionary. And I don't mean it spins around. Although...

Seriously hitting a wall with my entire project.

I got quoted £1500-£2000 for concept design from a product developer yesterday and at least another £1000 to prototype.

I have literally £100 to throw at this.

Feeling utterly despondent and lost and thinking perhaps it's useless.

I know, positive. :/
 

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I have literally £100 to throw at this.
What's your job if you don't mind me asking? If you're living between two countries, one would expect you to have access to more resource?

I don't know what you're trying to build/make, but £100 ain't going to cut it. Even if you got a bunch of prototypes sorted, you'll still have MOQ in most factories. The expense in setting up a factory lies in the tooling etc, which can often run into the $10,000's. But I don't know your project so it may not need that.

From what I can see there are millions of sex toys available.The market is saturated. Unless you're going to come up with something completely revolutionary. And I don't mean it spins around. Although...
EXACTLY. But don't let that dissuade you on its own. Having a large amount of products generally means there is a large amount of demand, but that demand will likely have already been divided between two or three major players. If you're going to create a successful product on its own, you most often need what's known as a "blue ocean".

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Perhaps talking to this guy may give you more pertinent insight into how to successfully market a product that you had made overseas (IE the process).

He owns Seventeenth Watches and generated his income (which I believe to be substantive) primarily through social media. They're not my style, but the fact he got his own product created, marketed and is now somewhat successful should give you some ideas on how to get making money without selling a kidney.

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If you want more specific feedback, I'd want to know...

1) your situation (why entrepreneurship? why £100?)
2) what your product actually is? I've got in my head its some sort of strap-on belt (or whatever they're called)
3) what your "vision" for it all is? Everyone has that one "thing" they picture for a product. Is it to have 1k reviews on Amazon? For pornstars to use it?

Simple facts are that most people won't say if your idea is shit because they don't know themselves. Like I mentioned before, most people are not very good at business. It's rare to find someone with the insight, experience or - perhaps - talent to recognize success. Hence why most people will cheer when someone says "I'm going to start a business" and like 2 people will actually ask what it's about etc.

I'm not successful but I've been around the block and made mistakes. You can see my CV here: CV (Public).pdf I went totally broke in 2015 due to investing into a product that required more money (so I know your pain). I can certainly give you some ideas but don't know enough about what you're doing.

You're welcome to email rpeck@frontlineutilities.co.uk if you want to talk. If you do, please give me your thoughts on the female stuff I posted.
 

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What's your job if you don't mind me asking? If you're living between two countries, one would expect you to have access to more resource?

I don't know what you're trying to build/make, but £100 ain't going to cut it. Even if you got a bunch of prototypes sorted, you'll still have MOQ in most factories. The expense in setting up a factory lies in the tooling etc, which can often run into the $10,000's. But I don't know your project so it may not need that.

EXACTLY. But don't let that dissuade you on its own. Having a large amount of products generally means there is a large amount of demand, but that demand will likely have already been divided between two or three major players. If you're going to create a successful product on its own, you most often need what's known as a "blue ocean".

-

Perhaps talking to this guy may give you more pertinent insight into how to successfully market a product that you had made overseas (IE the process).

He owns Seventeenth Watches and generated his income (which I believe to be substantive) primarily through social media. They're not my style, but the fact he got his own product created, marketed and is now somewhat successful should give you some ideas on how to get making money without selling a kidney.

-

If you want more specific feedback, I'd want to know...

1) your situation (why entrepreneurship? why £100?)
2) what your product actually is? I've got in my head its some sort of strap-on belt (or whatever they're called)
3) what your "vision" for it all is? Everyone has that one "thing" they picture for a product. Is it to have 1k reviews on Amazon? For pornstars to use it?

Simple facts are that most people won't say if your idea is sh*t because they don't know themselves. Like I mentioned before, most people are not very good at business. It's rare to find someone with the insight, experience or - perhaps - talent to recognize success. Hence why most people will cheer when someone says "I'm going to start a business" and like 2 people will actually ask what it's about etc.

I'm not successful but I've been around the block and made mistakes. You can see my CV here: CV (Public).pdf I went totally broke in 2015 due to investing into a product that required more money (so I know your pain). I can certainly give you some ideas but don't know enough about what you're doing.

You're welcome to email rpeck@frontlineutilities.co.uk if you want to talk. If you do, please give me your thoughts on the female stuff I posted.
Thank you very much. I absolutely value your input.

The reason why I have zero to invest is as I alluded above. We signed up for a salary sacrifice scheme that runs until April next year. So in May 2019 I will have more money to invest.

Yes, I realise that isn't much. At the moment I'm aiming to get a design and prototype with the intention of using Indiegogo to raise funds to actually manufacture - if there is a demand.

To define more clearly the 'toy' - I like your strap on suggestion - it's a toy mount. There are a number of mounts available but the one I'm designing answers the problems of existing products.

As for my vision. I'd like to make money designing something that I myself would want. I have no grand vision of 1000s of reviews as such but I see that there is room for my product and I think it would be cool as F*ck to bring it to market. I know that wouldn't quite cut it in Shark Tank but that's where I'm at right now.

I'm naturally creative and to see people using something I made would be pretty much enough for me.

I value your input. Thank you.
 

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What's it going to take to just make a crude version? Hell, duct tape some pipe or something together and see if your idea works. You can refine it later. You need something in your hands before you go to far with this.

Wow, it's difficult to write anything without the innuendos...
 

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What's it going to take to just make a crude version? Hell, duct tape some pipe or something together and see if your idea works. You can refine it later. You need something in your hands before you go to far with this.

Wow, it's difficult to write anything without the innuendos...
hahaha I KNOW! So many puns.

Hmm, I don't think so. Personally I would rather see a nice illustration than some toilet roll holders stuck together with sellotape :)
 

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ME AGAIN!

Thought i'd vanished, didn't you?

So I got a design done by a guy on Fiverr and it looked like the least sexy thing you could possibly imagine.

So I got another design and he's just sent me the files. It looks good. Or promising.

I've been quoted £400 to get it 3D printed. This is why I'm here today. I'm having such a mental block making the damn 3D model to print to TEST that it works that I'm wondering whether I'm cut out for this.

I have the money - didn't before but I got a side hustle business that raised enough funds to help see me through the process.

Do I even have to 3D print it to test? I can't see another way and I don't want to press ahead and register the design or even approach manufacturers until I know the damn thing works.

I'm looking for

Kicks up the arse
Advice
Support
Insights - something I haven't thought of.

Or any combination of the above.

Thanks!

Emma
 

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ME AGAIN!

Thought i'd vanished, didn't you?

So I got a design done by a guy on Fiverr and it looked like the least sexy thing you could possibly imagine.

So I got another design and he's just sent me the files. It looks good. Or promising.

I've been quoted £400 to get it 3D printed. This is why I'm here today. I'm having such a mental block making the damn 3D model to print to TEST that it works that I'm wondering whether I'm cut out for this.

I have the money - didn't before but I got a side hustle business that raised enough funds to help see me through the process.

Do I even have to 3D print it to test? I can't see another way and I don't want to press ahead and register the design or even approach manufacturers until I know the damn thing works.

I'm looking for

Kicks up the arse
Advice
Support
Insights - something I haven't thought of.

Or any combination of the above.

Thanks!

Emma
You never know what the right choice could be, maybe you'd waste £400, maybe not.

But from my experience when I was in these kind of situations, the right choice was always to do it.

Sometimes I look back and think "I wonder where I would be if I didn't throw in those $1.000 to get the very first version done of this or that".

Essentially what I read you asking is if you need the product in order to test the product?
In which case I think you really do need the physical product and to have it tested.

Its a risk but in my opinion its a necessary risk that you will not get easy around.

Good luck, I vote that you go for it!
 

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If £400 seems steep you might want to get some more quotes first, but you do need a physical product to test. Once tested you might well make some tweaks to the design as it really is a prototype so I would get as cheap a first print as possible.

Have you looked on People Per Hour?
 
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$400 is a STEAL for a prototype.

I know it seems like a lot, but I would do it. You’ll never know it it works unless you try.

After all, what’s more expensive:
A $400 prototype
Or a full production run of a product with major design flaws?
 

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ME AGAIN!

Thought i'd vanished, didn't you?

So I got a design done by a guy on Fiverr and it looked like the least sexy thing you could possibly imagine.

So I got another design and he's just sent me the files. It looks good. Or promising.

I've been quoted £400 to get it 3D printed. This is why I'm here today. I'm having such a mental block making the damn 3D model to print to TEST that it works that I'm wondering whether I'm cut out for this.

I have the money - didn't before but I got a side hustle business that raised enough funds to help see me through the process.

Do I even have to 3D print it to test? I can't see another way and I don't want to press ahead and register the design or even approach manufacturers until I know the damn thing works.

I'm looking for

Kicks up the arse
Advice
Support
Insights - something I haven't thought of.

Or any combination of the above.

Thanks!

Emma
Have you considered looking a purchasing a 3d printer?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BR3F9N6/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

It might be cheaper in the long run, to have your own 3d printer. Have you checked out: Can We Talk Tools for the "Maker Market"?
 
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ME AGAIN!

Thought i'd vanished, didn't you?

So I got a design done by a guy on Fiverr and it looked like the least sexy thing you could possibly imagine.

So I got another design and he's just sent me the files. It looks good. Or promising.

I've been quoted £400 to get it 3D printed. This is why I'm here today. I'm having such a mental block making the damn 3D model to print to TEST that it works that I'm wondering whether I'm cut out for this.

I have the money - didn't before but I got a side hustle business that raised enough funds to help see me through the process.

Do I even have to 3D print it to test? I can't see another way and I don't want to press ahead and register the design or even approach manufacturers until I know the damn thing works.

I'm looking for

Kicks up the arse
Advice
Support
Insights - something I haven't thought of.

Or any combination of the above.

Thanks!

Emma
It's normal to have these fears, you are worried that you will waste 400 quid on something crap. Or that you will get ripped off...

All you can do is perform your due diligence before hand. Are they a reputable company? Do they understand what you're trying to get across to them?

I personally would go for it, this could be the most worthwhile £400 you've spent in your life. Think of how many times so far you've wasted that amount of money by going out here, a pointless purchase there, and you had nothing to show for it apart from a hangover and some baubles.

This could be the making of you, and even if it's not, you will have gained loads of experience to apply to the next thing you come up with.

Just go for it!

(Consider arse kicked)

By the way, I wouldn't get a 3D printer yourself, then you'd be bogged down with trying to get the Fusion software to work, just pay the money, get the prototype, test, adjust, sell.
 

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Get the prototype - do become a maker (buy a 3D printer) - you need to spend much more to get a decent 3D printer, and right now you have a print requirement of 1.
Worst case you end up with an expensive toy (!) or piece of 'artwork'.
You have to test the design, so how else are you going to do this?
Is the final design intended to be hard plastic - if not your not testing the final product of course.
Kick!
Get on with it.
Good luck.
 

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What's your job if you don't mind me asking? If you're living between two countries, one would expect you to have access to more resource?

I don't know what you're trying to build/make, but £100 ain't going to cut it. Even if you got a bunch of prototypes sorted, you'll still have MOQ in most factories. The expense in setting up a factory lies in the tooling etc, which can often run into the $10,000's. But I don't know your project so it may not need that.

EXACTLY. But don't let that dissuade you on its own. Having a large amount of products generally means there is a large amount of demand, but that demand will likely have already been divided between two or three major players. If you're going to create a successful product on its own, you most often need what's known as a "blue ocean".

-

Perhaps talking to this guy may give you more pertinent insight into how to successfully market a product that you had made overseas (IE the process).

He owns Seventeenth Watches and generated his income (which I believe to be substantive) primarily through social media. They're not my style, but the fact he got his own product created, marketed and is now somewhat successful should give you some ideas on how to get making money without selling a kidney.

-

If you want more specific feedback, I'd want to know...

1) your situation (why entrepreneurship? why £100?)
2) what your product actually is? I've got in my head its some sort of strap-on belt (or whatever they're called)
3) what your "vision" for it all is? Everyone has that one "thing" they picture for a product. Is it to have 1k reviews on Amazon? For pornstars to use it?

Simple facts are that most people won't say if your idea is sh*t because they don't know themselves. Like I mentioned before, most people are not very good at business. It's rare to find someone with the insight, experience or - perhaps - talent to recognize success. Hence why most people will cheer when someone says "I'm going to start a business" and like 2 people will actually ask what it's about etc.

I'm not successful but I've been around the block and made mistakes. You can see my CV here: CV (Public).pdf I went totally broke in 2015 due to investing into a product that required more money (so I know your pain). I can certainly give you some ideas but don't know enough about what you're doing.

You're welcome to email rpeck@frontlineutilities.co.uk if you want to talk. If you do, please give me your thoughts on the female stuff I posted.
Rep+ for the sweet, sick CV!

Really, really detailed. Actually tells me what you've done before, unlike some blur-a$$ template crap.
 

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Thank you very much, everyone. Turns out the price was so high because my designer had completely the wrong sizes for the holder. Due to the language and cultural barrier I'm sure he still doesn't understand what this device is hahaha

Back to the drawing board for the size change and then pressing ahead with the 3d print. Otherwise it would always be 'what if?'

Thank you!
 

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For what it's worth - upwork tends to be a far "higher quality" marketplace for the kinds of jobs you're describing.

Fiverr is basically a race to the bottom. There's good in there, don't get me wrong, but it's a discount marketplace by and large.

Upwork, by comparison, has tons of real professionals doing very real, very professional work. When you see someone who has billed $100k for their services and has a 99% positive rating - good chance that person knows what the hell they are doing.

On fiverr I never know what I'm getting and I've had less than a 50% success rate on there. On upwork, I've had almost a 90-95% success rate.

Upwork also lets you sort better than fiverr. Things like "english skills" and "hours worked" and "total earnings" and other hard credibility indicators like their scores on skill tests.

Upwork also tends to cost more, but it reflects the skill of the worker more often than not.

Food for thought.
 

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