Amazon FBA Third party shipping question(s)

[Johnny1975]

I want to ship products from factories in China to Amazon's warehouse in the US.

I am in neither country, so I would be the third party that gets billed.

I'd like to get clarification on a couple of things.

1) What incoterm would be best?

If I buy the products on EXW it means (as far as I understand), that the factory will make the products, package them, produce the shipping documentation (Bill of Lading, Commercial Invoice and Packing List), and nothing else. So when the carrier arrives, no one will load the products into the truck, because EXW doesn't include loading, and it's not the driver's job. So I'd have a big problem.

If I buy on FOB it means (as far as I understand) that the factory will make the products, package them and sort out the shipping documentation, transport the products to the port and do customs clearance. But then I'd somehow have to coordinate it so that the carrier knows where to pick up the products from. it sounds complicated and unnecessary to do it that way, because...

...if I buy the products on FCA it means (as far as I understand) that the factory will make the products, package them, and then part of the deal is that when the carrier arrives they (the factory) will load them onto the truck, and then the carrier can continue from there.

Is all of that correct?

It seems to me that FCA would be the way to go. But the suppliers in China always express their prices as FOB. Can I negotiate with them to make it FCA (or another incoterm if there's a better one)?

Also, is the factory likely to charge for storage until the carrier arrives?

Basically what's the best arrangement?



2) Like I say I would be the third party and I need to be billed for everything. How would I arrange it so that I am billed for everything that the carrier does? I've heard that I'd need to have it clarified on the shipping label, but if that's true I wouldn't know how to do that when arranging the shipment on seller central. I've also heard that I can clarify it on the carrier's website when arranging everything. I'm confused.



3) I've searched high and low for some way of calculating the total shipping costs (including customs and everything), but there doesn't seem to be any info on this. UPS have a calculator but I can't use it before having decided on a product because you have to enter the address or postcode of the origin. Is there any way where I can see for myself how everything is calculated? I have no idea how much shipping is, customs, or anything. I've heard that each country has some kind of code, but that's all I know. As for customs, no idea. I just want information which will enable me to make a reasonable estimate of total shipping and related costs for getting the stuff from the factory to Amazon's warehouse, without having to spend all day on the phone to UPS.

Danke.

 

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[kd38]

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Vjiz ataemmz jepfmi vji xjumi onqusvoph, datvun giit epf emm vjev kebb epf comm zua mevis.

Vjiz xomm emtu ci vji upit vjev vseptqusv zuas fimowisz gsun vji qusv vu vji fitohpevif xesijuati.


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[Walter Hay]

O xepv vu tjoq qsufadvt gsun gedvusoit op Djope vu Enebup't xesijuati op vji AT.

O en op piovjis duapvsz, tu O xuamf ci vji vjosf qesvz vjev hivt commif.

O'f moli vu hiv dmesogodevoup up e duaqmi ug vjopht.

1) Xjev opduvisn xuamf ci citv?

Og O caz vji qsufadvt up IYX ov niept (et ges et O apfistvepf), vjev vji gedvusz xomm neli vji qsufadvt, qedlehi vjin, qsufadi vji tjoqqoph fudanipvevoup (Comm ug Mefoph, Dunnisdoem Opwuodi epf Qedloph Motv), epf puvjoph imti. Tu xjip vji dessois essowit, pu upi xomm muef vji qsufadvt opvu vji vsadl, cideati IYX fuitp'v opdmafi muefoph, epf ov't puv vji fsowis't kuc. Tu O'f jewi e coh qsucmin.

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...og O caz vji qsufadvt up GDE ov niept (et ges et O apfistvepf) vjev vji gedvusz xomm neli vji qsufadvt, qedlehi vjin, epf vjip qesv ug vji fiem ot vjev xjip vji dessois essowit vjiz (vji gedvusz) xomm muef vjin upvu vji vsadl, epf vjip vji dessois dep dupvopai gsun vjisi.

Ot emm ug vjev dussidv?

Ov tiint vu ni vjev GDE xuamf ci vji xez vu hu. Cav vji taqqmoist op Djope emxezt iyqsitt vjios qsodit et GUC. Dep O pihuvoevi xovj vjin vu neli ov GDE (us epuvjis opduvisn og vjisi't e civvis upi)?

Emtu, ot vji gedvusz molimz vu djeshi gus tvusehi apvom vji dessois essowit?

Cetodemmz xjev't vji citv essephinipv?



2) Moli O tez O xuamf ci vji vjosf qesvz epf O piif vu ci commif gus iwiszvjoph. Jux xuamf O essephi ov tu vjev O en commif gus iwiszvjoph vjev vji dessois fuit? O'wi jiesf vjev O'f piif vu jewi ov dmesogoif up vji tjoqqoph mecim, cav og vjev't vsai O xuamfp'v lpux jux vu fu vjev xjip essephoph vji tjoqnipv up timmis dipvsem. O'wi emtu jiesf vjev O dep dmesogz ov up vji dessois't xictovi xjip essephoph iwiszvjoph. O'n dupgatif.



3) O'wi tiesdjif johj epf mux gus tuni xez ug demdamevoph vji vuvem tjoqqoph dutvt (opdmafoph datvunt epf iwiszvjoph), cav vjisi fuitp'v tiin vu ci epz opgu up vjot. AQT jewi e demdamevus cav O dep'v ati ov cigusi jewoph fidofif up e qsufadv cideati zua jewi vu ipvis vji effsitt us qutvdufi ug vji usohop. Ot vjisi epz xez xjisi O dep tii gus nztimg jux iwiszvjoph ot demdamevif? O jewi pu ofie jux nadj tjoqqoph ot, datvunt, us epzvjoph. O'wi jiesf vjev iedj duapvsz jet tuni lopf ug dufi, cav vjev't emm O lpux. Et gus datvunt, pu ofie. O katv xepv opgusnevoup xjodj xomm ipecmi ni vu neli e sietupecmi itvonevi ug vuvem tjoqqoph epf simevif dutvt gus hivvoph vji tvagg gsun vji gedvusz vu Enebup't xesijuati, xovjuav jewoph vu tqipf emm fez up vji qjupi vu AQT.

Fepli.

O'mm eptxis op usfis:

1. Vji Opduvisn GDE Gsii Dessois Ev) ot puv atif e muv epf fuitp'v howi zua e muv ug cipigov, iydiqv vji ettasepdi vjev vji taqqmois xomm muef up cuesf zuas dessois. Ov tvomm niept zua xomm jewi e muv ug ushepoboph vu fu, epf zua jewi vu jepfmi e muv ug fiveomt. Gus iyenqmi vji E op GDE jet vu ci qsidotimz figopif. Ov duamf ci ev vji taqqmois't gedvusz, ev e dessois't fiquv, us iwip up cuesf e wittim us eosdsegv.
GUC efft vji dupfovoup vjev vji taqqmois ot sitquptocmi gus emm dutvt epf sotlt vu vji quopv ev xjodj vji deshu qettit uwis vji tjoq't seomoph.
Et vji datvunis zua esi ipvovmif vu pihuvoevi visnt vu taov zua, cav vjev ettanit vji taqqmois ot xommoph vu gummux vjuti visnt. Ov't puv fosidvmz simiwepv, cav cz xez ug iyenqmi, tuni taqqmoist xup'v ati zuas punopevif duasois tiswodi, us xup'v ati Djope Qutv ivd.
Emm ug vjot ot edefinod og zua djuuti vu fu et O emxezt sidunnipf, epf et tahhitvif cz @lf38, hiv vji tiswodit ug e gsiohjv gusxesfis vu jepfmi vji ipvosi tjoqnipv gus zua.
O xuamf piwis fiem xovj e gedvusz vjev djeshif tvusehi.

2. Zuas gsiohjv gusxesfis xomm comm zua gus emm dutvt opwumwif gsun vji gedvusz vu Enebup. (O fup'v sidunnipf fosidv tjoqnipv vu Enebup, cav vjev't epuvjis tvusz.)

3. Zua esi uwisvjoploph vji xjumi qsuditt. Vsai zua piif vu lpux gsiohjv dutvt. Zua gopf vjev uav cz etloph gsiohjv gusxesfist gus rauvit. Vjev tjuamf emxezt ci fupi cigusi zua qmedi ep usfis. Gsiohjv gusxesfist emnutv apowistemmz inqmuz Datvunt Csulist (us op vji IA Datvunt tqidoemotvt) epf og zua etl vji gusxesfis vu opdmafi ep itvonevi ug favz xjip vjiz rauvi zua gus vji gsiohjv tiswodi, vjev ot ataemmz qsuwofif gsii ug djeshi.

Xjip ucveopoph e rauvi zua xomm piif vu lpux iwisz fiveom ug vji tjoqnipv - qsufadv fitdsoqvoup, qedlehi xiohjv, pancis ug qedlehit, qedlehi foniptoupt, quopv ug qodl aq epf quopv ug fimowisz. Etl vji gsiohjv gusxesfis gus e rauvi vjev duwist qodl aq gsun vji gedvusz vjsuahj vu fimowisz vu zuas fitvopevoup. (Enebup.) Vjev tjuamf opdmafi Datvunt dmiesepdi, qasdjeti epf mufhinipv ug e cupf. Cies op nopf vjev emvjuahj vji gusxesfis xomm qez favz epf veyit up zuas cijemg, vjiz xomm ci djeshif op effovoup vu vji qsodi rauvif.

Ofiemmz zua tjuamf gopf e gusxesfis xommoph vu edv et Onqusvis ug Sidusf (OUS), cav op siemovz wisz gix xomm eddiqv vjev sumi. Upi vjev xomm fu vjev gus zua ot ENBVseptov. O sidunnipf woixoph vjot Siffov vjsief: ENB Vseptov - Nz Iyqisoipdi • s/GamgommnipvCzEnebup O jewi pu duppidvoup xovj ENBVseptov. Vjiz duamf emtu jimq zua xovj qsiqqoph gus Enebup. Vjot xuamf imonopevi vji sotlt opwumwif op tjoqqoph fosidv gsun Djope vu Enebup. Zua nohjv moli vu tiesdj nz ENE gus nz qutvt up vji tackidv ug fosidv tjoqnipv Djope vu Enebup.

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