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Hey everyone, I dipped out of visiting here for the past 2 years or so. I hope everyone is keeping safe and keeping well.

So as the title suggests, I've done FBA for the past 4 years now but the business as been pretty much written off in the past few months. At the moment it makes like $500~ a month but its time to forget the whole Amazon FBA idea without going into details. Its time to move on.

I still work a really crap, energy sucking IT Helpdesk Job. I actually went on a trade course 6 months ago to try and better myself. Just to learn a trade to move on from working my job. I don't want to specify the trade but when I say trade I mean, plastering, plumbing, tiling etc kind of trade.

The course was 2 weeks long, Ive never done physical work like that before so it was a new experience for me. Was I the lowest skill one there? Sure. Did I learn the most out of everyone? Definitely. Is this line of work suited towards me? Im actually not sure. Something in mind tells me Im not naturally wired to physical skilled work but I don't know.

Have I done anything since the course? I did work on a friends kitchen and thats about it. Made a bit of a mess of it but did finish it correctly. Outside of that I haven't done anything. I know that will probably make people on this forum angry but Im too scared to start doing work on peoples homes and the quality being s***. I have serious confidence issues in actually getting out there and starting. The problem is I don't really have enough experience to start working. I need to shadow someone to build that confidence up. I actually posted on Facebook offering to do free work, I have 2 people who were interested but I am honestly too scared to call them up and start. So Im sort of stuck in this place where I want to work but have cripplingly low confidence in myself. I really hate that Im pathetic at approaching this, but the internal struggle really has held me back something terrible.

How does this fit into the fastlane? Well, doing the course I did note down a few product ideas to make the trade easier. But the main thing that stood out to me was the course itself. Im thinking If I could setup my own course, hire somebody more experience to be the teacher it has alot of potential. The only problem is I can't even do the trade myself. I haven't even started. But I'd like to tell myself if I learn the ropes say over the next year, I could go on to create my own course. But then another half of me just says that its completely retarded to start teaching people something I can't do at the moment or am naturally inclined to do.

What are your thoughts? Is this completely retarded or something to commit to? Please, try not to be too harsh in the comments. I know people do enjoy putting on a hard hat persona when commenting sometimes Im just emptying my thoughts here. Thank you in advanced and stay safe out there!
 
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Thought I'll chip in as I had a similar story.

I think it all depends on you. Hard to advise as you said you're not sure if it's for you so even the course side would be hard to get into if you're not sure what you're doing and even just being brains behind it and having someone else help you could be tricky considering how and how busy trade people are. But regarding your IT job. Can't you take courses in that area for a more specialized role and work your way up that way? I mean you already work in the field sort of so if you taught yourself some more advanced stuff you could find a more interesting career. And maybe become an FBA guru on the side :p Jokes aside why not make a course on how someone can make an extra $500 a month instead?

I did something similar when I was younger. Had a desk job but read everywhere about the shortage of tradespeople and shit so I went to work with my father who works high up for a construction company. And even tho I did have a good time for the 2 years I did this, I always thought what on earth did I do?! I was sitting in a warm room. No rain pissing down on me. No dust going into my eyes. No retarded construction people (not all of them are like that of course) talking shit about football betting and other useless subjects like how many escorts they banged as they're working 10 hours from home staying in a cheap hotel which leads me to the most annoying part, the travel to and from work. At times being 6 hours and most of it unpaid! So I saved up, taught myself to code, and have not looked back since. Now I have a good wage plus freelancing income which allowed me to invest and chill out all while I can travel wherever I want, and not have to look at the weather app the night before to see what my day will be like on-site.

Again there are better trades like an electrician or a plumber which you get to do inside and stuff but even then it takes a toll on you. I suppose everything does so can't really win as the grass is always greener... But if you want to do trades you want to become decent first and dive in fully and it seems you're not too keen. And I know you said you would think about eventually a business in this field, but before that, it will take a good couple of years of actually working in the field before you have money and brains to know what and where.

Anyway, Best of luck.
 

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I don't think you should give up so easily. If you need confidence, perhaps ask a skilled tradesman to see if they want a free helper that you can shadow, like an intern.

That's a hard bargain to pass up.
 
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Hey everyone, I dipped out of visiting here for the past 2 years or so. I hope everyone is keeping safe and keeping well.

So as the title suggests, I've done FBA for the past 4 years now but the business as been pretty much written off in the past few months. At the moment it makes like $500~ a month but its time to forget the whole Amazon FBA idea without going into details. Its time to move on.

I still work a really crap, energy sucking IT Helpdesk Job. I actually went on a trade course 6 months ago to try and better myself. Just to learn a trade to move on from working my job. I don't want to specify the trade but when I say trade I mean, plastering, plumbing, tiling etc kind of trade.

The course was 2 weeks long, Ive never done physical work like that before so it was a new experience for me. Was I the lowest skill one there? Sure. Did I learn the most out of everyone? Definitely. Is this line of work suited towards me? Im actually not sure. Something in mind tells me Im not naturally wired to physical skilled work but I don't know.

Have I done anything since the course? I did work on a friends kitchen and thats about it. Made a bit of a mess of it but did finish it correctly. Outside of that I haven't done anything. I know that will probably make people on this forum angry but Im too scared to start doing work on peoples homes and the quality being s***. I have serious confidence issues in actually getting out there and starting. The problem is I don't really have enough experience to start working. I need to shadow someone to build that confidence up. I actually posted on Facebook offering to do free work, I have 2 people who were interested but I am honestly too scared to call them up and start. So Im sort of stuck in this place where I want to work but have cripplingly low confidence in myself. I really hate that Im pathetic at approaching this, but the internal struggle really has held me back something terrible.

How does this fit into the fastlane? Well, doing the course I did note down a few product ideas to make the trade easier. But the main thing that stood out to me was the course itself. Im thinking If I could setup my own course, hire somebody more experience to be the teacher it has alot of potential. The only problem is I can't even do the trade myself. I haven't even started. But I'd like to tell myself if I learn the ropes say over the next year, I could go on to create my own course. But then another half of me just says that its completely retarded to start teaching people something I can't do at the moment or am naturally inclined to do.

What are your thoughts? Is this completely retarded or something to commit to? Please, try not to be too harsh in the comments. I know people do enjoy putting on a hard hat persona when commenting sometimes Im just emptying my thoughts here. Thank you in advanced and stay safe out there!
Free work to build skills and confidence = great idea.

Try volunteering with Habitat for Humanity.

Then you are learning, building confidence AND doing something good for someone. Win, win, win.

Is it fastlane? I don't know, but your goals were to build skills and confidence, so that would fit the bill.
 
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After finishing cooking school, working at restaurants and not enjoying life, I moved to Alberta to get a job with my best friend on the oil rigs.

My first day I had my hard hat on backwards and I didn't even know what a crescent wrench was. The bosses really questioned my friend's judgement on recommending me.

A year later I was a derrickhand running the pump for the rig and dipping my toes into operating the snubbing unit, one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. I had pretty much zero mechanical knowledge and experience when I started.

Sometimes you just gotta dive in headfirst and be willing to look (and feel) dumb. It's a little cliche, but life (one worth living) truly does begin outside your comfort zone.
 

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Hey there brother.

I can relate to what you wrote.

A little about me:
I've always worked in warehouses jobs doing general labor work. I'm 26 now and it wasn't until last year in April that I've had it and I needed to start doing my own thing(I had a serious F*ck This Event). At that time I didn't know what I would do to make money; I didn't have any skills at that time and I never started a business before(unless you count occasionally selling things on eBay). But I knew I had to learn and provide some service to people to make money right away to pay bills and such.

I did a little research on YouTube on what skills I can learn and provide to people.
There were a lot of options.
I ended choosing to be a Handyman.

Keep in mind:
  • I've never started a business before
  • I'm introverted
  • Never done any handyman work before lol
  • Never had any client experience
I have serious confidence issues in actually getting out there and starting. The problem is I don't really have enough experience to start working.
Believe me when I tell you that when I started I was REALLY nervous, low-confidence, and I had a lot of "what if???" After all, I don't have any experience! LOL

But you know what?

It's perfectly normal to feel some type of way when starting out on a new thing.

My first handyman job was mounting a TV.
I was terrified! Drilling into walls and making sure I put the TV mount onto wooden studs and not hit a water pipe or something electrical?? It was nerve-wracking!

I did it though! Took me a long time to mount the TV though. It took 3 hours but only charged the client for two. A lot of clients are very understanding.

I congratulate you on wanting to do new things. 99% of people don't try anything new. They live as NPCs(Non-Playable Characters) in this game of life.

Tips and lessons from me:
  • The doubts and any emotions you are having are normal but don't let those emotions conquer you.
  • If the trade that you learned it's not for you, then it's okay, try something else. If you don't like doing physical work, try something else. Life is too short to do something you don't like doing. BUT GIVE IT A SHOT. Resentment is no good.
  • Get general liability insurance just in case of an unlikely accident. If it happens, it happens. It's happened to me but I'M STILL GOING!
  • Though it sucks, charge low at first since you don't have too much experience or you can always work under someone else as an apprentice and get experience and then go out on your own.
  • And most importantly:
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I don't think you should give up so easily. If you need confidence, perhaps ask a skilled tradesman to see if they want a free helper that you can shadow, like an intern.

That's a hard bargain to pass up.
Hey MJ, thanks so much for replying. Thank you for your books, they are the best books I have ever read they are life changing.

You are right, I need to find a tradesman to learn from in exchange for free labour. Actually I'm going to do exactly this it's the best next move to do. Thank you
 

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But you know what?

It's perfectly normal to feel some type of way when starting out on a new thing.

My first handyman job was mounting a TV.
I was terrified! Drilling into walls and making sure I put the TV mount onto wooden studs and not hit a water pipe or something electrical?? It was nerve-wracking!

I did it though! Took me a long time to mount the TV though. It took 3 hours but only charged the client for two. A lot of clients are very understanding.
This is off-topic, but I was a handyman for a little while. I would recommend you get $1MM liability insurance ($45 a month here in the US). I have broken plenty of stuff as a handyman (glass shower door, pipe, dishwasher, etc.) and insurance covered it all, no questions asked.
 

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This is off-topic, but I was a handyman for a little while. I would recommend you get $1MM liability insurance ($45 a month here in the US). I have broken plenty of stuff as a handyman (glass shower door, pipe, dishwasher, etc.) and insurance covered it all, no questions asked.
Yes I got it. I have next insurance. I pay close to $60 a month. I would recommend @Fastlane Liam to get as well if he does go out and does it on his own(independent contractor).

I have to ask something off topic too. You no longer do handyman work? If not why?
I would like to know just out of curiosity since I currently do handyman work.
 
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I don't think you should give up so easily. If you need confidence, perhaps ask a skilled tradesman to see if they want a free helper that you can shadow, like an intern.

That's a hard bargain to pass up.
I know tonnes of tradies that need an offsider to help.

Although I have to admit, they're not the easiest guys to approach, especially for someone lacking confidence.
 
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Thought I'll chip in as I had a similar story.

I think it all depends on you. Hard to advise as you said you're not sure if it's for you so even the course side would be hard to get into if you're not sure what you're doing and even just being brains behind it and having someone else help you could be tricky considering how and how busy trade people are. But regarding your IT job. Can't you take courses in that area for a more specialized role and work your way up that way? I mean you already work in the field sort of so if you taught yourself some more advanced stuff you could find a more interesting career. And maybe become an FBA guru on the side :p Jokes aside why not make a course on how someone can make an extra $500 a month instead?

I did something similar when I was younger. Had a desk job but read everywhere about the shortage of tradespeople and shit so I went to work with my father who works high up for a construction company. And even tho I did have a good time for the 2 years I did this, I always thought what on earth did I do?! I was sitting in a warm room. No rain pissing down on me. No dust going into my eyes. No retarded construction people (not all of them are like that of course) talking shit about football betting and other useless subjects like how many escorts they banged as they're working 10 hours from home staying in a cheap hotel which leads me to the most annoying part, the travel to and from work. At times being 6 hours and most of it unpaid! So I saved up, taught myself to code, and have not looked back since. Now I have a good wage plus freelancing income which allowed me to invest and chill out all while I can travel wherever I want, and not have to look at the weather app the night before to see what my day will be like on-site.

Again there are better trades like an electrician or a plumber which you get to do inside and stuff but even then it takes a toll on you. I suppose everything does so can't really win as the grass is always greener... But if you want to do trades you want to become decent first and dive in fully and it seems you're not too keen. And I know you said you would think about eventually a business in this field, but before that, it will take a good couple of years of actually working in the field before you have money and brains to know what and where.

Anyway, Best of luck.
Sadly I think you're kind of right, deep down Im not completely keen but Im not sure if this is down to confidence. Good to hear that you've actually been through the same journey, but interesting to know you eventually went back to white collar. You are right, really I need to be in the trade to earn alot of experience first before even moving beyond that.

As for training for more skilled IT work, this would clearly be the next step career wise. Actually I should of done it years ago, but the biggest part holding me back is the lack of fastlane potential with it. If I trained to be more specialised it leads to higher paying slowlane jobs - which is fine, Im not bashing it but I don't see the step beyond that where you can create a business from it. Also, it would take alot of studying and focus to pass those exams because they're not easy. If your heart is fully in it of course its possible.
 

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When I left school I went straight into a trade - I became an electrician. I was paid really crap money as an apprentice, but I learned a hell of a lot over my 3-year apprenticeship. By the end of the first year, I was confident enough to do my own private work at weekends to make extra money.

Once you learn a trade, you find that you can safely dabble in other trades with confidence because you overlap with other trades on-site and learn from them. Any DIY jobs that come up at my house, I can quite easily tackle.

If you want to get into a trade and you don't think you are really built for a physically demanding job, then becoming an electrician may be the best fit for you. Some work can be rough and dirty, but I'd say this is one of the 'cleanest' and least physically demanding trades there is. Plus, an electrician can command decent money in the UK.

As for starting your own training business, I would say that it would be challenging. There are so many options out there already and they all train to a specific standard set out in the government regulations. How would you differentiate yourself from the big companies?

Why not work as an apprentice and get a trade under your belt, then try to dominate an area? Have you heard of Pimlico Plumbers? The founder dominated the plumbing and heating market in London and sold his stake in the company for over £100 million. Not bad!

If you can train your tradesmen up to be punctual, respectful, communicative and efficient, you'll be way ahead of 90% of the firms out there.
 
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Hey everyone, I dipped out of visiting here for the past 2 years or so. I hope everyone is keeping safe and keeping well.

So as the title suggests, I've done FBA for the past 4 years now but the business as been pretty much written off in the past few months. At the moment it makes like $500~ a month but its time to forget the whole Amazon FBA idea without going into details. Its time to move on.

I still work a really crap, energy sucking IT Helpdesk Job. I actually went on a trade course 6 months ago to try and better myself. Just to learn a trade to move on from working my job. I don't want to specify the trade but when I say trade I mean, plastering, plumbing, tiling etc kind of trade.

The course was 2 weeks long, Ive never done physical work like that before so it was a new experience for me. Was I the lowest skill one there? Sure. Did I learn the most out of everyone? Definitely. Is this line of work suited towards me? Im actually not sure. Something in mind tells me Im not naturally wired to physical skilled work but I don't know.

Have I done anything since the course? I did work on a friends kitchen and thats about it. Made a bit of a mess of it but did finish it correctly. Outside of that I haven't done anything. I know that will probably make people on this forum angry but Im too scared to start doing work on peoples homes and the quality being s***. I have serious confidence issues in actually getting out there and starting. The problem is I don't really have enough experience to start working. I need to shadow someone to build that confidence up. I actually posted on Facebook offering to do free work, I have 2 people who were interested but I am honestly too scared to call them up and start. So Im sort of stuck in this place where I want to work but have cripplingly low confidence in myself. I really hate that Im pathetic at approaching this, but the internal struggle really has held me back something terrible.

How does this fit into the fastlane? Well, doing the course I did note down a few product ideas to make the trade easier. But the main thing that stood out to me was the course itself. Im thinking If I could setup my own course, hire somebody more experience to be the teacher it has alot of potential. The only problem is I can't even do the trade myself. I haven't even started. But I'd like to tell myself if I learn the ropes say over the next year, I could go on to create my own course. But then another half of me just says that its completely retarded to start teaching people something I can't do at the moment or am naturally inclined to do.

What are your thoughts? Is this completely retarded or something to commit to? Please, try not to be too harsh in the comments. I know people do enjoy putting on a hard hat persona when commenting sometimes Im just emptying my thoughts here. Thank you in advanced and stay safe out there!
It’s good to be cautious when starting anything new. But there will come a time where the most successful have started out by being the most inexperienced! You have to have trial and error and even failure to sharpen your skills on being better. If It was me on starting out the new skills in the job your pursuing I’d set the expectations early on with your customers. Be upfront with them, let them know what you know and what you don’t! That way there will be no surprises in the end! Another mindset to have is to start so small or with something so easy that you can build the confidence in things that aren’t that challenging and in doing so you will have the confidence, experience, and leverage to move to the next steps! I hope all is a great learning time for you and I wish you the best!
 

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It’s good to be cautious when starting anything new. But there will come a time where the most successful have started out by being the most inexperienced! You have to have trial and error and even failure to sharpen your skills on being better. If It was me on starting out the new skills in the job your pursuing I’d set the expectations early on with your customers. Be upfront with them, let them know what you know and what you don’t! That way there will be no surprises in the end! Another mindset to have is to start so small or with something so easy that you can build the confidence in things that aren’t that challenging and in doing so you will have the confidence, experience, and leverage to move to the next steps! I hope all is a great learning time for you and I wish you the best!
Thank you, this is good advice with being honest with people up front
 

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Sometimes you just gotta dive in headfirst and be willing to look (and feel) dumb. It's a little cliche, but life (one worth living) truly does begin outside your comfort zone.
You're right, this is the best thing to remember. Success really outside of your comfort zone. Your comfort zone is limited to your current success or lack thereof.

I'm going to take MJs advice, and what you're saying and try shadow a tradesman near me to build confidence that way. Contrary to my other reply I am going to atleast start, learn and go from there
 
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You're right, this is the best thing to remember. Success really outside of your comfort zone. Your comfort zone is limited to your current success or lack thereof.

I'm going to take MJs advice, and what you're saying and try shadow a tradesman near me to build confidence that way. Contrary to my other reply I am going to atleast start, learn and go from there
A lot of tradesmen where I'm from post ads on job boards looking for apprentices.
Might not be a bad place to start.

You could even post your own ad saying you're looking for an apprenticeship and sell yourself.
 

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Hey guys, as an update I actually went and spent 2 days with a tradesman, working for free in turn for some training. Wow, I learned a ton watching someone who does it daily. It was a really good experience for me. It was quite infectious to see someone of that skill level work, all I want to do now is get out there and do the same. Alot of what they taught me on that course wasn't the way this guy did things. Everything he did was for pure accuracy and efficiency. He gave me such good pointers. I'm going to provide more updates the more that happens! Thanks to everyone who replied in the first place
 

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Bit of a late update but I managed to tile someone's shower about 6 weeks ago. Now for the past 6 weeks I've been tiling a my grandmother's kitchen, they live about an hour's drive away so I've been restricted to weekends mostly - I'll be honest I've missed about 2 weekends.

It's slow progress and I'm a SLOW tiler. Also, on the first wall was really crumbled - grandma said it's about 120 years old. But, I suppose it's all practice. Heres some photos, I hope it doesn't look too terrible - I am a complete novice, but just wanted to update the thread.
 
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Look at you getting jobs and learning skills. Nice progress, keep it up.
 

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Okay, so managed to finish over a week ago. Now Im at a crossroads, continue tiling or give up. Ive got a few people in my life who almost don't believe in me tiling so thats a setback. Second, working the 9-5 hours pretty much takes up weekdays for tiling work and only on weekends - which is fine just very slow. Im guess Im scared to make that jump from working to tiling, Im scared if I will be able to get enough work to replace my income. At the end of the day my goal isn't to be a full time tiler, its to learn enough to start something fastlane with.
 

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Veloce Grey

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Okay, so managed to finish over a week ago. Now Im at a crossroads, continue tiling or give up. Ive got a few people in my life who almost don't believe in me tiling so thats a setback. Second, working the 9-5 hours pretty much takes up weekdays for tiling work and only on weekends - which is fine just very slow. Im guess Im scared to make that jump from working to tiling, Im scared if I will be able to get enough work to replace my income. At the end of the day my goal isn't to be a full time tiler, its to learn enough to start something fastlane with.
If you have issues about confidence until you get some more experience then as others have mentioned above offering to help a skilled tradesman or volunteering are good options. But if you want to go solo then another option is looking for situations where you basically can't make the thing you're working on any worse. For example I have an old storage shed on the property that I can't be bothered taking down as it's out of sight, but is in such bad condition that anything anyone did to it could only improve it. It doesn't require any permits to work on, so I've offered it as a sort of building practice range to a couple of my nephews. It's not worth getting a professional builder in as they'd probably just tear it down and put a new one there. I'd let literally anyone have a go at trying to improve it.

Look around and you'd probably find plenty of homeowners with something on their property in that category. My elderly, widowed neighbor would similarly find plenty of use for someone who could do even basic building tasks that she's physically unable to do.
 
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Okay, so managed to finish over a week ago. Now Im at a crossroads, continue tiling or give up. Ive got a few people in my life who almost don't believe in me tiling so thats a setback. Second, working the 9-5 hours pretty much takes up weekdays for tiling work and only on weekends - which is fine just very slow. Im guess Im scared to make that jump from working to tiling, Im scared if I will be able to get enough work to replace my income. At the end of the day my goal isn't to be a full time tiler, its to learn enough to start something fastlane with.
Conquer your fear or even if some fastlane opportunity falls out of the sky for you, your fear will hold you back.

And %$*& those people who don't believe in you. They'll drag you down into the depths if you let them.
 

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