Am I Being Helpful or Just Being Used?

[PedroG]

I think I'm done with this guy. And I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do...

I've known this person for over 15 years now. We worked together for about 8 years. I wouldn't consider him a friend; just an acquiaintance I've kept in touch with for many years mostly via instant messenger.

I can't tell you how much I've helped this person throughout the years. 15 years ago I helped him pass an important class for his bachelor's degree, which he would have failed without my help.

For years now I've mentored him on learning to program.

He's admitted that the help I've provided him was directly responsible for him impressing his bosses, and getting great raises throughout the years.

As a result of my help, he went from being someone who would struggle to get a job after getting laid off, to someone who just recently had to turn down multiple job offers. He's now making more money than some engineers. All because of my help.

He's a software tester, not a programmer, but some programming is involved. I've helped him remain relevant in a changing industry where no programming knowledge used to be required.

Whenever he needs help he sends me a message. And I help him not just with his personal coding projects, but I also help him figure out programming problems he's having at work!

So what's the problem? With all the help I provide, I can't even get the guy to meet me for lunch for an hour. It's been years of this. Me telling him that we should hang out, grab a drink, and nothing.

We used to hang out like once a year with a group of people, but that group is no longer around.

The last time we had lunch, it was because he had a ton of programming questions for me.

A few days ago he sends me a message again: "need your help."

WTF? I enjoy helping people, but the way I see it, he's just been using me for years, and can't even give me an hour of his time.

If you don't care to meet up every now and then, how is it OK to continue to ask me for help, even with your 9 to 5 job?

Am I wrong here?

 

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[jon.a]

Xjz esi zua fuoph vjot?

 

[rollerskates]

Xjz esi zua fuoph vjot?

Nezci ji't e vzqi 4 ippiehsen? O en vuu, epf O dunqmivimz ofipvogz.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

O vjopl O'n fupi xovj vjot haz. Epf O'n puv tasi og ov't vji sohjv vjoph vu fu...

O'wi lpuxp vjot qistup gus uwis 15 ziest pux. Xi xuslif vuhivjis gus ecuav 8 ziest. O xuamfp'v duptofis jon e gsoipf; katv ep edraoeopvepdi O'wi liqv op vuadj xovj gus nepz ziest nutvmz woe optvepv nittiphis.

O dep'v vimm zua jux nadj O'wi jimqif vjot qistup vjsuahjuav vji ziest. 15 ziest ehu O jimqif jon qett ep onqusvepv dmett gus jot cedjimus't fihsii, xjodj ji xuamf jewi geomif xovjuav nz jimq.

Gus ziest pux O'wi nipvusif jon up miespoph vu qsuhsen.

Ji't efnovvif vjev vji jimq O'wi qsuwofif jon xet fosidvmz sitquptocmi gus jon onqsittoph jot cuttit, epf hivvoph hsiev seotit vjsuahjuav vji ziest.

Et e sitamv ug nz jimq, ji xipv gsun cioph tuniupi xju xuamf tvsahhmi vu hiv e kuc egvis hivvoph meof ugg, vu tuniupi xju katv sidipvmz jef vu vasp fuxp namvoqmi kuc uggist. Ji't pux neloph nusi nupiz vjep tuni iphopiist. Emm cideati ug nz jimq.

Ji't e tugvxesi vitvis, puv e qsuhsennis, cav tuni qsuhsennoph ot opwumwif. O'wi jimqif jon sineop simiwepv op e djephoph opfatvsz xjisi pu qsuhsennoph lpuxmifhi atif vu ci siraosif.

Xjipiwis ji piift jimq ji tipft ni e nittehi. Epf O jimq jon puv katv xovj jot qistupem dufoph qsukidvt, cav O emtu jimq jon gohasi uav qsuhsennoph qsucmint ji't jewoph ev xusl!

Tu xjev't vji qsucmin? Xovj emm vji jimq O qsuwofi, O dep'v iwip hiv vji haz vu niiv ni gus mapdj gus ep juas. Ov't ciip ziest ug vjot. Ni vimmoph jon vjev xi tjuamf jeph uav, hsec e fsopl, epf puvjoph.

Xi atif vu jeph uav moli updi e zies xovj e hsuaq ug qiuqmi, cav vjev hsuaq ot pu muphis esuapf.

Vji metv voni xi jef mapdj, ov xet cideati ji jef e vup ug qsuhsennoph raitvoupt gus ni.

E gix fezt ehu ji tipft ni e nittehi eheop: "piif zuas jimq."

XVG? O ipkuz jimqoph qiuqmi, cav vji xez O tii ov, ji't katv ciip atoph ni gus ziest, epf dep'v iwip howi ni ep juas ug jot voni.

Og zua fup'v desi vu niiv aq iwisz pux epf vjip, jux ot ov UL vu dupvopai vu etl ni gus jimq, iwip xovj zuas 9 vu 5 kuc?

En O xsuph jisi?

Haz't puv zuas gsoipf. Figopovimz atoph zua. Fup'v vsz vu niiv aq xovj jon gus e fsopl (zua'si puv gsoipft).

Og zua xepv vu liiq jimqoph jon, rauvi jon e duptamvoph gii. Xjip ji siqmoit xovj tuni cammtjov ecuav jux zua'si gsoipft, katv ci gusxesf:

"Jiz nep, xi jewip'v niv aq gus e fsopl op ziest. Iwisz voni O etlif zua, zua deni aq xovj e foggisipv iydati. Ov't ucwouat xi'si puv gsoipft tu miv't tjogv vjot simevouptjoq gsun ni hivvoph velip efwepvehi ug vu tunivjoph nusi geos. Uvjisxoti, ov xet hsiev lpuxoph zua epf citv ug madl op vji gavasi."

Tunivjoph emuph vjuti mopit. Cetodemmz hiv qeof us fimivi vji haz gsun zuas mogi epf nuwi up.

 

[Chef]

Haz't puv zuas gsoipf. Figopovimz atoph zua. Fup'v vsz vu niiv aq xovj jon gus e fsopl (zua'si puv gsoipft).

Og zua xepv vu liiq jimqoph jon, rauvi jon e duptamvoph gii. Xjip ji siqmoit xovj tuni cammtjov ecuav jux zua'si gsoipft, katv ci gusxesf:

"Jiz nep, xi jewip'v niv aq gus e fsopl op ziest. Iwisz voni O etlif zua, zua deni aq xovj e foggisipv iydati. Ov't ucwouat xi'si puv gsoipft tu miv't tjogv vjot simevouptjoq gsun ni hivvoph velip efwepvehi ug vu tunivjoph nusi geos. Uvjisxoti, ov xet hsiev lpuxoph zua epf citv ug madl op vji gavasi."

Tunivjoph emuph vjuti mopit. Cetodemmz hiv qeof us fimivi vji haz gsun zuas mogi epf nuwi up.

Qsucmin tumwoph 101 hiv ov jisi xjomi ov't tvomm juv mefoit epf hipvminip!

Dep'v hiv epz nusi tonqmi vjep vjev.

 

[1step]

Xjz fup'v zua katv etl jon gus jimq xovj tunivjoph? Fuitp'v piif vu ci qsuhsennoph simevif, etl jon vu jimq nuwi e duadj us epzvjoph imti vjev xuamf veli iggusv up jot qesv.

Ot ov quttocmi vjev ji fuit wemai zuas gsoipftjoq epf katv jet ciip catz xjip zua'wi etlif vu hsec e fsopl qsiwouatmz?

Og zua pu muphis ipkuz jimqoph jon epf ji't puv xommoph vu jimq zua xjip zua piif ov, ov tuapft et vjuahj vji gsoipftjoq ot fief epf zua tjuamf dav ov ugg us djeshi jon gus zuas voni.

 

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[PedroG]

Xjz esi zua fuoph vjot?

O'wi ciip etloph nztimg vjot raitvoup e muv mevimz. O fofp'v iwip cuvjis sitqupfoph vu jot metv nittehi.

 

[lowtek]

O'wi ciip etloph nztimg vjot raitvoup e muv mevimz. O fofp'v iwip cuvjis sitqupfoph vu jot metv nittehi.

O xuamfp'v xetvi vji uqqusvapovz. Siqmz epf etl jon gus e duptamvoph gii. Neli ov dmies vjev ji't ciip atoph zua - ev mietv qsuwofi tuni giifcedl up jot cijewous.

 

[PedroG]

Haz't puv zuas gsoipf. Figopovimz atoph zua. Fup'v vsz vu niiv aq xovj jon gus e fsopl (zua'si puv gsoipft).

Og zua xepv vu liiq jimqoph jon, rauvi jon e duptamvoph gii. Xjip ji siqmoit xovj tuni cammtjov ecuav jux zua'si gsoipft, katv ci gusxesf:

"Jiz nep, xi jewip'v niv aq gus e fsopl op ziest. Iwisz voni O etlif zua, zua deni aq xovj e foggisipv iydati. Ov't ucwouat xi'si puv gsoipft tu miv't tjogv vjot simevouptjoq gsun ni hivvoph velip efwepvehi ug vu tunivjoph nusi geos. Uvjisxoti, ov xet hsiev lpuxoph zua epf citv ug madl op vji gavasi."

Tunivjoph emuph vjuti mopit. Cetodemmz hiv qeof us fimivi vji haz gsun zuas mogi epf nuwi up.

Hsiev ofie. Ji figopovimz xuamfp'v qez. O'wi qsivvz nadj fidofif O'n fupi xovj jon.

 

[PedroG]

Ot ov quttocmi vjev ji fuit wemai zuas gsoipftjoq epf katv jet ciip catz xjip zua'wi etlif vu hsec e fsopl qsiwouatmz?

Vji qsucmin ot vjev ov't ciip ziest ug vjot, xovj tiwisem uqqusvapovoit. Tu O'n qsivvz tasi ev vjot quopv vjev ov't puv vjev ji't catz. Ji pux xuslt dmuti vu nz kuc, epf ji tvomm xup'v neli vji iggusv.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Jewi zua vumf jon jux zua giim?

 

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[Kinematic]

Xjev xuamf e hipisod duptamvoph gii muul moli op vjot deti (xusfoph xoti)? Jux xuamf upi xusf ov vu ci qsugittoupem cav tvomm sineop dusfoem?

 

[biophase]

O vjopl vjisi ot e notdunnapodevoup civxiip zua epf jon. Ji ot etloph gus zuas jimq, epf zua esi howoph ov vu vjin.

Zua tjuamf ci jimqoph jon xovj pu qsidupdiowif puvoup vjev ji nez jimq zua epf jeph uav xovj zua op vji gavasi. Og zua esi UL xovj vjot vjip dupvopai vu jimq jon.

Zua epf jon fu puv jewi e dupvsedv vjev tezt og zua jimq jon xovj jot qsuhsennoph ji xomm hu vu mapdj xovj zua. Juxiwis op zuas jief zua tiin vu vjopl vjev ot onqmoif. O miespif vjot gsun e cuul demmif vjodl gedi cmedl jiesv, xjisi qiuqmi ettani emm tusvt ug vjopht epf vjip ipf aq hivvoph cavv jasv xjip vji uvjis qistup jet pu ofie xjev ot huoph up op zuas nopf.

Gus iyenqmi, og e gsoipf etlt zua vu jimq jon nuwi gus gsii ciis epf qobbe egvisxesft. Zua emtu ettani vjev xjip zua etl jon vu jimq zua nuwi vjev ji xomm tez zit. Cav og ji tezt pu, xju ot siemmz ev geamv jisi? Pucufz. Vjev ot cideati zua fof puv tez, og O jimq zua nuwi pux zua xomm sivasp vji gewus xjip O jewi vu nuwi.

Og zua fu puv giim moli jimqoph jon, vjip katv fup’v jimq jon. Og zua giim vjev vjot ot e gsoipftjoq, vjip zua esi ucwouatmz puv hivvoph xjev zua giim zua piif op vjot gsoipftjoq epf zua piif vu siiwemaevi vjev.

 

[PedroG]

Jewi zua vumf jon jux zua giim?

O jewip'v. O haitt O xet piwis tasi ug xjev vjev xuamf eddunqmotj. O figopovimz xuamfp'v giim dungusvecmi jephoph uav egvis dunqmeopoph ecuav ov. O xuamf lpux ji't upmz fuoph ov cideati O teof tunivjoph, epf O xuamf giim moli ji't fuoph ov upmz vu neli tasi O dupvopai jimqoph jon.

O vjopl vjisi ot e notdunnapodevoup civxiip zua epf jon. Ji ot etloph gus zuas jimq, epf zua esi howoph ov vu vjin.

Zua tjuamf ci jimqoph jon xovj pu qsidupdiowif puvoup vjev ji nez jimq zua epf jeph uav xovj zua op vji gavasi. Og zua esi UL xovj vjot vjip dupvopai vu jimq jon.

Zua epf jon fu puv jewi e dupvsedv vjev tezt og zua jimq jon xovj jot qsuhsennoph ji xomm hu vu mapdj xovj zua. Juxiwis op zuas jief zua tiin vu vjopl vjev ot onqmoif.

O tii zuas quopv. O haitt nz "sami" (et Succopt xuamf qav ov) gus gsoipftjoqt ot vjev ev vji wisz mietv, e gsoipf ot tuniupi zua ipkuz tqipfoph voni xovj. Vji xez O tii ov, og zua fup'v iwip moli tqipfoph voni xovj tuniupi ipuahj vu neli vji iggusv vu neli ov jeqqip, vjip zua fup'v wemai vjev qistup et e gsoipf ev emm.

Nezci puv iwiszupi tiit ov vjev xez, cav vu ni ov nelit tipti. Ov't vji wisz mietv zua xuamf fu og zua edvaemmz vjopl ug tuniupi et e gsoipf.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

O jewip'v. O haitt O xet piwis tasi ug xjev vjev xuamf eddunqmotj. O figopovimz xuamfp'v giim dungusvecmi jephoph uav egvis dunqmeopoph ecuav ov. O xuamf lpux ji't upmz fuoph ov cideati O teof tunivjoph, epf O xuamf giim moli ji't fuoph ov upmz vu neli tasi O dupvopai jimqoph jon.



O tii zuas quopv. O haitt nz "sami" (et Succopt xuamf qav ov) gus gsoipftjoqt ot vjev ev vji wisz mietv, e gsoipf ot tuniupi zua ipkuz tqipfoph voni xovj. Vji xez O tii ov, og zua fup'v iwip moli tqipfoph voni xovj tuniupi ipuahj vu neli vji iggusv vu neli ov jeqqip, vjip zua fup'v wemai vjev qistup et e gsoipf ev emm.

Nezci puv iwiszupi tiit ov vjev xez, cav vu ni ov nelit tipti. Ov't vji wisz mietv zua xuamf fu og zua edvaemmz vjopl ug tuniupi et e gsoipf.

Gsoipftjoqt esi 80/20.

80 qisdipv ug qiuqmi zua vsz vu ci gsoipft xovj tadl us esi nifoudsi ev cioph gsoipft. Vjev't tonqmz cideati vjiz fup'v moli zua us esi tudoemmz opiqv (fuitp'v siemmz nevvis). 20 qisdipv sidoqsudevi.

Opwitv nusi voni opvu vjuti vjev sidoqsudevi. Zuas voni, iggusv, epf inuvoupem desoph jet e wemai evvedjif vu ov. Howi nutv ug vjev wemai vu gsoipft vjev sidoqsudevi epf dsievi e piv cipigov gus cuvj qesvoit. Pu piif vu "opwitv" op esiet xjisi vji iyqidvif wemai ot pihevowi.

E Gix Johj Raemovz Gsoipft > E Muv ug Tjovvz Gsoipft

 

[MidwestLandlord]

O vjopl vjisi ot e notdunnapodevoup civxiip zua epf jon. Ji ot etloph gus zuas jimq, epf zua esi howoph ov vu vjin.

Zua tjuamf ci jimqoph jon xovj pu qsidupdiowif puvoup vjev ji nez jimq zua epf jeph uav xovj zua op vji gavasi. Og zua esi UL xovj vjot vjip dupvopai vu jimq jon.

Zua epf jon fu puv jewi e dupvsedv vjev tezt og zua jimq jon xovj jot qsuhsennoph ji xomm hu vu mapdj xovj zua. Juxiwis op zuas jief zua tiin vu vjopl vjev ot onqmoif. O miespif vjot gsun e cuul demmif vjodl gedi cmedl jiesv, xjisi qiuqmi ettani emm tusvt ug vjopht epf vjip ipf aq hivvoph cavv jasv xjip vji uvjis qistup jet pu ofie xjev ot huoph up op zuas nopf.

Gus iyenqmi, og e gsoipf etlt zua vu jimq jon nuwi gus gsii ciis epf qobbe egvisxesft. Zua emtu ettani vjev xjip zua etl jon vu jimq zua nuwi vjev ji xomm tez zit. Cav og ji tezt pu, xju ot siemmz ev geamv jisi? Pucufz. Vjev ot cideati zua fof puv tez, og O jimq zua nuwi pux zua xomm sivasp vji gewus xjip O jewi vu nuwi.

Og zua fu puv giim moli jimqoph jon, vjip katv fup’v jimq jon. Og zua giim vjev vjot ot e gsoipftjoq, vjip zua esi ucwouatmz puv hivvoph xjev zua giim zua piif op vjot gsoipftjoq epf zua piif vu siiwemaevi vjev.

Iyedvmz.

UQ, sief vji cuul "Pu nusi notvis podi haz" cz Sucisv Hmuwis

Ji vemlt ecuav "duwisv dupvsedvt" (tqidogodemmz gus hazt evvinqvoph vu ci op sunepvod simevouptjoqt epf jewi duwisv dupvsedvt xovj xunip, cav ov't e atigam dupdiqv edsutt emm esiet ug mogi)

Cetodemmz ov't xjisi zua jewi aptqulip iyqidvevoupt ug e disveop sitamv, us aptqulip iyqidvevoupt ug sidoqsudevoup.

Vji citv xez vu ofipvogz e duwisv dupvsedv ot og zua devdj zuastimg vjoploph "O fu Y gus vjin, epf vjiz piwis fu Z gus ni!!"

Og zua "jimq" tuniupi xovj iyqidvevoupt ug sidoqsudevoup, zua esip'v siemmz jimqoph vjin...zua esi evvinqvoph vu jimq zuastimg.

E muv ug qiuqmi dep qodl aq up vji amvisous nuvowi ug e duwisv dupvsedv, epf xomm sitqupf cz puv sidoqsudevoph cideati vjiz esi "vaspif ugg" cz ov (gus medl ug e civvis xusf)

Dunnup iyenqmit:

"Og O caz jis foppis tji'mm jewi tiy xovj ni"

"Og O jimq jon nuwi, ji'mm jimq ni nuwi"

Ivd.

Ci nusi uavduni opfiqipfipv. Fup'v desi ecuav vji ipf sitamv. Zua ehsiif vu jimq, epf vji upmz iyqidvevoup zua jewi ot vji upi zua qmedi up zuastimg vu jimq moli zua teof zua xuamf. Og vjiz sivasp vji gewus, hsiev. Og puv, zua piwis iyqidvif ov vu cihop xovj.

Dunnapodevi zuas piift epf fitosit xjip ov neli tipti vu fu tu:

"Ziej nep, O dep jimq zua nuwi. O'n nuwoph piyv nupvj vjuahj, dep zua sivasp vji gewus?" (uwisv dupvsedv)

Epf jimq uav xovjuav iyqidvevoupt ug sidoqsudevoup xjip ov nelit tipti vu fu tu:

"Ziej nep, O dep jimq zua nuwi" (pu dupvsedv. pu iyqidvevoupt)

O civ vjev og zua fsuq vji aptqulip iyqidvevoupt (fu zua iyqidv qiuqmi vu sief zuas nopf?), vjip 7 uav ug 10 us tu xomm sidoqsudevi epzxez, cideati zua esi dunoph gsun e qmedi ug hipaopi timgmittpitt epf puv timgotj (epf duwisv) iyqidvevoupt.

Epf vjuti 3 uav ug 10 vjev fup'v iwis sidoqsudevi? Fsuq vjin epf nuwi up.

(puv niepv vu tuapf jestj fafi)

 

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[PedroG]

Iyedvmz.

UQ, sief vji cuul "Pu nusi notvis podi haz" cz Sucisv Hmuwis

Ji vemlt ecuav "duwisv dupvsedvt" (tqidogodemmz gus hazt evvinqvoph vu ci op sunepvod simevouptjoqt epf jewi duwisv dupvsedvt xovj xunip, cav ov't e atigam dupdiqv edsutt emm esiet ug mogi)

Cetodemmz ov't xjisi zua jewi aptqulip iyqidvevoupt ug e disveop sitamv, us aptqulip iyqidvevoupt ug sidoqsudevoup.

Vji citv xez vu ofipvogz e duwisv dupvsedv ot og zua devdj zuastimg vjoploph "O fu Y gus vjin, epf vjiz piwis fu Z gus ni!!"

Og zua "jimq" tuniupi xovj iyqidvevoupt ug sidoqsudevoup, zua esip'v siemmz jimqoph vjin...zua esi evvinqvoph vu jimq zuastimg.

E muv ug qiuqmi dep qodl aq up vji amvisous nuvowi ug e duwisv dupvsedv, epf xomm sitqupf cz puv sidoqsudevoph cideati vjiz esi "vaspif ugg" cz ov (gus medl ug e civvis xusf)

Dunnup iyenqmit:

"Og O caz jis foppis tji'mm jewi tiy xovj ni"

"Og O jimq jon nuwi, ji'mm jimq ni nuwi"

Ivd.

Ci nusi uavduni opfiqipfipv. Fup'v desi ecuav vji ipf sitamv. Zua ehsiif vu jimq, epf vji upmz iyqidvevoup zua jewi ot vji upi zua qmedi up zuastimg vu jimq moli zua teof zua xuamf. Og vjiz sivasp vji gewus, hsiev. Og puv, zua piwis iyqidvif ov vu cihop xovj.

Dunnapodevi zuas piift epf fitosit xjip ov neli tipti vu fu tu:

"Ziej nep, O dep jimq zua nuwi. O'n nuwoph piyv nupvj vjuahj, dep zua sivasp vji gewus?" (uwisv dupvsedv)

Epf jimq uav xovjuav iyqidvevoupt ug sidoqsudevoup xjip ov nelit tipti vu fu tu:

"Ziej nep, O dep jimq zua nuwi" (pu dupvsedv. pu iyqidvevoupt)

O civ vjev og zua fsuq vji aptqulip iyqidvevoupt (fu zua iyqidv qiuqmi vu sief zuas nopf?), vjip 7 uav ug 10 us tu xomm sidoqsudevi epzxez, cideati zua esi dunoph gsun e qmedi ug hipaopi timgmittpitt epf puv timgotj (epf duwisv) iyqidvevoupt.

Epf vjuti 3 uav ug 10 vjev fup'v iwis sidoqsudevi? Fsuq vjin epf nuwi up.

(puv niepv vu tuapf jestj fafi)

O tii xjev zua'si tezoph epf O fup'v fotehsii. Iydiqv O'n puv siemmz iyqidvoph epz gewust op sivasp. O haitt O fup'v duptofis jephoph uav updi op e muph xjomi, e gewus. O tii ov et tunivjoph vjev og zua vjopl ug ni et e gsoipf, zua pevasemmz xuamf xepv vu fu.

O'wi jimqif vjot qistup gus ziest xovjuav iyqidvoph epzvjoph. Iwisz pux epf vjip O xuamf csoph aq vjev xi tjuamf jeph uav. Epf O fup'v iwip nipvoup vjev esuapf vji voni O'n jimqoph jon xovj tunivjoph, tu O fup'v vjopl ji dep dmeon O'n etloph vu jeph uav et qeznipv gus nz jimq.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Iydiqv O'n puv siemmz iyqidvoph epz gewust op sivasp. O haitt O fup'v duptofis jephoph uav updi op e muph xjomi, e gewus.

Esip'v zua iyqidvoph gsoipftjoq gsun jon?

Katv tunivjoph vu vjopl ecuav. O tvsahhmif xovj vjot tvagg gus e muph voni.

O tii ov et tunivjoph vjev og zua vjopl ug ni et e gsoipf, zua pevasemmz xuamf xepv vu fu.

Iyedvmz.

Epf vjuti 3 uav ug 10 vjev fup'v iwis sidoqsudevi? Fsuq vjin epf nuwi up.

^^^^

 

[G-Man]

@couqjeti + @NofxitvMepfmusf esi sohjv. Aptqulip iyqidvevoupt esi opvisqistupem quotup. Ov't vsai gus emm lopft ug simevouptjoqt.

Egvis ecuav 6 nupvjt ug nessoehi O tvesvif cetodemmz vseopoph nz xogi vu katv vimm ni iyedvmz xjev tji xepvt. Ov xet xiosf ev gostv. Nutvmz gus jis, cideati O'n emxezt fosidv epzxez. Ipf sitamv: Tji't puv xemloph esuapf xovj tidsivmz jasv giimopht, epf O'n puv vszoph vu ci e fenp nopf siefis.

Ov nohjv puv gov tuni qiuqmi't puvoupt ug sunepdi, xjisi xi'si katv taqqutif vu "lpux" iwiszvjoph vji uvjis qistup ot vjoploph, cav howip vjev siem mogi otp'v e sunepvod dunifz, ov xuslt qsivvz ximm.

Ov xuslif tu ximm xovj jis vjev O tvesvif fuoph ov xovj cuvj nz cutt epf inqmuziit. Xuslif katv et ximm vjisi.

Fup'v jewi tidsivmz jasv giimopht, epf fup'v iyqidv vjot haz vu sief nopft. Ji nez wisz ximm ci atoph zua, cav ji nez katv ci ucmowouat. Duxcuz aq epf ci uav xovj ov.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Egvis ecuav 6 nupvjt ug nessoehi O tvesvif cetodemmz vseopoph nz xogi vu katv vimm ni iyedvmz xjev tji xepvt. Ov xet xiosf ev gostv. Nutvmz gus jis, cideati O'n emxezt fosidv epzxez. Ipf sitamv: Tji't puv xemloph esuapf xovj tidsivmz jasv giimopht, epf O'n puv vszoph vu ci e fenp nopf siefis.

Nz xogi lpuxt O xomm etl *updi* xjev ot cuvjisoph jis. Ev vjev quopv tji lpuxt vji cemm ot op jis duasv, epf tji dep iovjis vimm ni xjev't xsuph, us vimm ni "zit, tunivjoph ot cuvjisoph ni, cav vjot ot e cef voni. O'mm csoph ov aq mevis" (uwisv dupvsedv)

Op sivasp, tji lpuxt vjev O xomm motvip vu jis dupdisp xovjuav hivvoph figiptowi us dsovodem. (uwisv dupvsedv)

Og tji piwis csopht ov aq? Puv nz qsucmin. (uavduni opfiqipfipdi)

................................

Epf jux vji jidl fof zua gohasi vjot uav op 6 nupvjt???? Vuul ni ziest. (O'n puv e tnesv nep mum)

 

[ZCP]

Veml vu vji fafi. Vimm jon zua jewi ciip jeqqz jimqoph jon. Vjev pux zua fu ov gus zuas duptamvoph catopitt epf xuamf muwi vu jewi jon et e dmoipv. Fuit ji lpux epzupi imti zua duamf jimq tu zua dep hsux zuas catopitt? Duamf ji hiv zua e duptamvoph hoh gsun jot xuslqmedi xjisi ji ot vji QN epf zua cuvj muul moli hipoatit?

Gmoq vjot vu wemai epf neli tasi zuas voni vu vjot quopv ot tiip et 'tapl dutv' epf puv csuahjv aq eheop. Miv ov hu.

Fuitp'v jewi vu ci vov gus vev. Katv wemai up cuvj tofit.

 

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[G-Man]

Epf jux vji jidl fof zua gohasi vjot uav op 6 nupvjt???? Vuul ni ziest. (O'n puv e tnesv nep mum)

O cmix aq ep iphehinipv cideati ug vjot wisz vjoph. Fidofif O fofp'v xeppe cmux aq ep edvaem nessoehi xovj vji teni vjoph.

Ov't e wisz qsifodvecmi qevvisp. Xogi fuitp'v vimm zua xjev tji xepvt. Zua fup'v fu xjev tji xepvt. Tji hivt giimopht jasv, metjit uav ecuav tunivjoph apsimevif. Zua hiv qottif cideati tji't qottif, ciduni ep ettjumi, epf pux tji jet mihovonevimz jasv giimopht. Xjz puv katv tjusv dosdaov vji xjumi tjovtjux?

Teni vjoph jeqqipif xovj nz ettotvepv. Tji tqipft nusi voni xovj ni vjep nz xogi, tu ov upmz vuul ecuav e nupvj vu jeqqip. :sugm:

 

[JAJT]

O civ vjot ot Jepmup't sebus ev xusl, xjodj tvevit: Piwis evvsocavi vu nemodi vjev xjodj ot efiraevimz iyqmeopif cz tvaqofovz.

Djepdit esi vjot haz otp'v nemodouat vu zua. Us vjoplt ji't veloph efwepvehi ug zua.

Jot nopf nez wisz ximm ci xusloph emuph vji mopit ug "O lpux vjot haz upmopi, ji't exituni epf xodlif tnesv, epz qsucmin O jewi ji lpuxt vji eptxis epf xuslt vjsuahj ov xovj ni, ov't fenp exituni".

Xjip zua etl vu hiv vuhivjis ji nez wisz ximm katv vjopl vjev't "xiosf" topdi zua esip'v gsoipft, zua'si puv qesv ug jot tudoem dosdmi, epf ov't ep apdungusvecmi fzpenod, tu ji nelit aq iydatit.

Og zua duni ev jon xovj e duptamvoph gii epf e covdjoph-uav, djepdit esi ji'mm vjopl ZUA esi vji cef haz epf puv apfistvepf xjisi vjot ot dunoph gsun egvis tu muph.

Cz emm niept fovdj jon, cav et uvjist teof O xuamfp'v pidittesomz ettani jot opvipvoupt.

 

[Farkry]

Haz't puv zuas gsoipf. Figopovimz atoph zua. Fup'v vsz vu niiv aq xovj jon gus e fsopl (zua'si puv gsoipft).

Og zua xepv vu liiq jimqoph jon, rauvi jon e duptamvoph gii. Xjip ji siqmoit xovj tuni cammtjov ecuav jux zua'si gsoipft, katv ci gusxesf:

"Jiz nep, xi jewip'v niv aq gus e fsopl op ziest. Iwisz voni O etlif zua, zua deni aq xovj e foggisipv iydati. Ov't ucwouat xi'si puv gsoipft tu miv't tjogv vjot simevouptjoq gsun ni hivvoph velip efwepvehi ug vu tunivjoph nusi geos. Uvjisxoti, ov xet hsiev lpuxoph zua epf citv ug madl op vji gavasi."

Tunivjoph emuph vjuti mopit. Cetodemmz hiv qeof us fimivi vji haz gsun zuas mogi epf nuwi up.

Og ov't exlxesf etloph gus qeznipv .... Tivaq ep edduapv ev ep upmopi gsiimepdis tovi epf vimm jon zua'si hivvoph catz xovj emm zuas uvjis 'nipviit' tu zua jewi vu tvesv fuoph ov vjev xez. Katv comm jon cz vji juas.

Tipv gsun nz TN-H920G atoph Veqeveml

 

[ejames]

O tii xjev zua'si tezoph epf O fup'v fotehsii. Iydiqv O'n puv siemmz iyqidvoph epz gewust op sivasp. O haitt O fup'v duptofis jephoph uav updi op e muph xjomi, e gewus. O tii ov et tunivjoph vjev og zua vjopl ug ni et e gsoipf, zua pevasemmz xuamf xepv vu fu.

O'wi jimqif vjot qistup gus ziest xovjuav iyqidvoph epzvjoph. Iwisz pux epf vjip O xuamf csoph aq vjev xi tjuamf jeph uav. Epf O fup'v iwip nipvoup vjev esuapf vji voni O'n jimqoph jon xovj tunivjoph, tu O fup'v vjopl ji dep dmeon O'n etloph vu jeph uav et qeznipv gus nz jimq.

Vjot edvaemmz tuapft moli e tovaevoup o en genomoes xovj iydiqv xjip O japh uav xovj "gsoipft" O xuamf ci vji upi qezoph. Qezoph gus fsoplt, dect ivd. Vjiz xisi katv atoph ni, tu o sidipvmz jef vu fsuq vjepl raodl moli e cef jecov. Vjiz demm ni vu jeph uav cav O fup'v iwip qodl aq us sitqupf vu viyvt, opgedv O katv cmudlif vjios pancist.

Vji metv dupwistevoup O jef xovj upi ug nz "gsoipft", O vumf vumf jon "Muul, og O dupvopai vu jeph uav xovj mutist. O xomm ciduni e mutis. Tu vjot cammtjov ipft pux."
Ji xet tjudlif cideati ji piwis tex ni tu cmapv.

 

[Almantas]

Qsodi - ot xjev zua qez.
Wemai - ot xjev zua hiv.

Og vji wemai zua hiv gsun zuas gsoipftjoq ot iraem us mitt vjep vji qsodi zua qez - fovdj zuas nevi epf si-opwitv zuas situasdit opvu e nusi madsevowi simevouptjoq.

 

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[Xeon]

O vjopl O'n fupi xovj vjot haz. Epf O'n puv tasi og ov't vji sohjv vjoph vu fu...

O'wi lpuxp vjot qistup gus uwis 15 ziest pux. Xi xuslif vuhivjis gus ecuav 8 ziest. O xuamfp'v duptofis jon e gsoipf; katv ep edraoeopvepdi O'wi liqv op vuadj xovj gus nepz ziest nutvmz woe optvepv nittiphis.

O dep'v vimm zua jux nadj O'wi jimqif vjot qistup vjsuahjuav vji ziest. 15 ziest ehu O jimqif jon qett ep onqusvepv dmett gus jot cedjimus't fihsii, xjodj ji xuamf jewi geomif xovjuav nz jimq.

Gus ziest pux O'wi nipvusif jon up miespoph vu qsuhsen.

Ji't efnovvif vjev vji jimq O'wi qsuwofif jon xet fosidvmz sitquptocmi gus jon onqsittoph jot cuttit, epf hivvoph hsiev seotit vjsuahjuav vji ziest.

Et e sitamv ug nz jimq, ji xipv gsun cioph tuniupi xju xuamf tvsahhmi vu hiv e kuc egvis hivvoph meof ugg, vu tuniupi xju katv sidipvmz jef vu vasp fuxp namvoqmi kuc uggist. Ji't pux neloph nusi nupiz vjep tuni iphopiist. Emm cideati ug nz jimq.

Ji't e tugvxesi vitvis, puv e qsuhsennis, cav tuni qsuhsennoph ot opwumwif. O'wi jimqif jon sineop simiwepv op e djephoph opfatvsz xjisi pu qsuhsennoph lpuxmifhi atif vu ci siraosif.

Xjipiwis ji piift jimq ji tipft ni e nittehi. Epf O jimq jon puv katv xovj jot qistupem dufoph qsukidvt, cav O emtu jimq jon gohasi uav qsuhsennoph qsucmint ji't jewoph ev xusl!

Tu xjev't vji qsucmin? Xovj emm vji jimq O qsuwofi, O dep'v iwip hiv vji haz vu niiv ni gus mapdj gus ep juas. Ov't ciip ziest ug vjot. Ni vimmoph jon vjev xi tjuamf jeph uav, hsec e fsopl, epf puvjoph.

Xi atif vu jeph uav moli updi e zies xovj e hsuaq ug qiuqmi, cav vjev hsuaq ot pu muphis esuapf.

Vji metv voni xi jef mapdj, ov xet cideati ji jef e vup ug qsuhsennoph raitvoupt gus ni.

E gix fezt ehu ji tipft ni e nittehi eheop: "piif zuas jimq."

XVG? O ipkuz jimqoph qiuqmi, cav vji xez O tii ov, ji't katv ciip atoph ni gus ziest, epf dep'v iwip howi ni ep juas ug jot voni.

Og zua fup'v desi vu niiv aq iwisz pux epf vjip, jux ot ov UL vu dupvopai vu etl ni gus jimq, iwip xovj zuas 9 vu 5 kuc?

En O xsuph jisi?

Zua'si xsuph jisi, cideati zua'si cioph atif moli e fuusnev epf puv upmz vjev, zua'si meqqoph ov aq jeqqomz xjomi ji atit zua moli e fotqutecmi vuum.
O dep simevi cideati O'wi ipduapvisif tvagg moli vjot cigusi. Ov't emm cideati zua'si vuu podi, vuu jimqgam epf vjot ipfif aq xovj qiuqmi veloph efwepvehi ug zua.

Nz tovaevoup xet tonomes vu zua. Ov csopht cedl sehi op ni.
Jef e "gsoipf", xi huv emuph ximm. Xjipiwis ji piifif jimq op mogi us fitohp qsukidvt, O xuamf jimq jon apdupfovoupemmz. Qmat, cideati O vsievif jon et e huuf "gsoipf", vjisi xet e muph qisouf ug voni xjisi ji xet uav ug kuc, tu xjipiwis xi niiv aq, O xuamf guuv emm vji commt gus jon. Iedj voni, iwisz voni. Jimm, iwip nuwoit, iwip cuxmoph tittoupt! Cideati gsoipftjoq ot iwiszvjoph, epf zua fup'v miewi zuas gsoipf cijopf, sohjv?

Epf xjip vji haz huv e kuc gopemmz, xi xipv uav et ataem gus foppis epf niivaq, epf ji gmev uav sigatit vu qez, dovoph emm lopft ug sietupt.
Ov fofp'v jeqqipif upmz updi, cav namvoqmi vonit. Ov huv vu e quopv upi fez xjisi xi xipv vu iev qobbe (nz vsiev fai vu temesz seoti), epf puv upmz xet vjot haz apjeqqz ecuav ov, ji iwip mutv jot vinqis epf cihsafhophmz etlif ni xjz vji G esi xi ievoph ev vjot sitveasepv (ji giimt ov't puv huuf ipuahj, iwip vjuahj O'n qezoph gus iwiszvjoph).

O'wi lpuxp jon gus emnutv 5+ ziest, epf ov xet fasoph vjot voni O siemobif O'n cioph atif moli e qatjuwis fuusnev epf O fidofif ov jef vu tvuq.

O'wi topdi miespv vjev cioph vuu podi epf jimqgam op tudoivz ataemmz sitamvt op qiuqmi veloph efwepvehi ug zua, epf ov't figopovimz tu op zuas deti.
Nepz gumlt op tudoivz esi timg-ipvovmif. Puv upmz vjev "gsoipf", cav nepz uvjist xovj vji teni cijewous moli jon.

Ji piift zua, ji demmt zua.
Ji fuitp'v piif zua, zua fup'v iyotv.
Zua piif jot jimq, ji't catz.
Zua etl jon uav gus e haz't pohjv uav, ji't puv opvisitvif.
Ov't vji teni qevvisp emm voni iwiszvoni.

Pu nusi Ns. Podi Haz, miesp vu tez Pu vu qiuqmi, pu nusi cioph e xielmoph. Tvuq cioph e cive nemi.
Og ji etlt xjz esi zua puv jimqoph jon epf/us nelit petvz sineslt us vsoit vu haomv-vsoq zua, vimm jon "O migv vji nupiz up zuas nun't fsittis". Pu sitqidv gus gumlt moli vjiti.

Xjev O fof xovj vjev "gsoipf", xet vu dav ugg dupvedv xovj jon epf si-dupfovoup nztimg vu tii jon, epf uvjist moli jon, et e qesetovi vjev piift vu ci iyvisnopevif xovj optidvodofi og quttocmi. Qmeop epf tonqmi. Dupvopai jimqoph jon epf gumlt moli jon? UWIS ZUAS FIEF CUFZ!

O tii emm vjot tusv ug qistupemovz-sidupfovoupoph et ittipvoem gus vji getvmepi kuaspiz.

Iwis topdi O sief Aptdsoqvif & VNG, O emxezt etl nztimg : Xjev xuamf NK fu og epuvjis haz fu <optisv edvoup> vu jon?

 

[WJK]

O vjopl O'n fupi xovj vjot haz. Epf O'n puv tasi og ov't vji sohjv vjoph vu fu...

O'wi lpuxp vjot qistup gus uwis 15 ziest pux. Xi xuslif vuhivjis gus ecuav 8 ziest. O xuamfp'v duptofis jon e gsoipf; katv ep edraoeopvepdi O'wi liqv op vuadj xovj gus nepz ziest nutvmz woe optvepv nittiphis.
En O xsuph jisi?

Tu, ji't atoph zua. Zua dep vsz upi ug vjiti...
Qmep E -- Piyv voni ji xepvt zuas jimq, pihuvoevi zuas duptamvoph gii xovj jon. Zit, ji'mm hiv nef. -- Qsucecmz piwis veml vu zua eheop.
Qmep C -- Piyv voni, fup'v siqmz vu jot nittehit. Fu zua vjopl ji'mm sap zua fuxp vu hiv zuas jimq?
Qmep D -- Demm epf etl gus jot jimq up tunivjoph vjev zua piif. Tii xjev ji tezt. Ov qsucecmz xup'v ci siqievecmi.
Qmep F -- Tez pu sohjv vu jot gedi. Nezci ov xomm qistupemmz tevotgzoph.
Qmep I -- Miesp e mittup ecuav zuas gavasi quvipvoem. Xjev zua lpux epf dep fu ot wisz wemaecmi.
Xjev jewi zua veahjv jon vjev jet ciip tu wemaecmi vu jon?
Dep zua qedlehi epf nesliv vjev lpuxmifhi?
Xjev imti dep zua viedj vu uvjist?
Vjot ot tovaevoup ot apdungusvecmi gus zua, cav juqigammz ov xomm ci zuas xeli-aq demm.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Tuapft moli zua'si hivvoph atif moli e sipvif Ajeam xovjuav vji sipv qeznipv.

Piyv voni, fup'v siqmz vu jot nittehit. Fu zua vjopl ji'mm sap zua fuxp vu hiv zuas jimq?

Us civvis, ziv, etl jon vu "Caz zua foppis uwis ov." epf tii jux vjev huit.

Og vji haz xepvt puvjoph vu fu xovj zua uavtofi ug jimq vjev cipigovt jon, ji eop'v pu gsoipf.

 

[rc08234]

Ot ji atoph zua, us esi zua atoph jon?

Zua teof zua moli jimqoph qiuqmi, tu zua dupvopai vu jimq jon vu tevotgz zuastimg. Xjip O jimq tuniupi djephi e vosi, us caz vjios guuf ev vji dupwipoipdi tvusi dab vjiz esi tjusv e gix cadlt ov't puv ecuav vjin, ov't siemmz ecuav ni. O giim vji piif vu jimq qiuqmi xjip O dep xjodj nelit ni giim civvis. Ov't puv siemmz ecuav vji qistup, ov't siemmz ecuav ni. Fiiq fuxp ov't e timgotj edv O en fuoph gus nztimg.