23.2 ROAS needed: realistic?

[MRiabov]

Sup,

So I'm in the process of putting my invention to Kickstarter, here is a couple of renders



It cooks food by a press of a button.

So, I've made a couple of estimations, and to fund my project on Kickstarter, I need 34800€.

The way Kickstarter works is that if the goal is not reached I get nothing.

...

And to get that kind of funding I need ad dollars. I've made some estimations, and I can do food delivery for about 7$/h here in Slovakia. If I work 7 hours a day, 30 days a month I can get to whopping 1500$.

Which is both good and terrible. But, if you do the math 34800/1500, I need around 23.2 ROAS just to hit the goal.

I've read how powerful press mentions (and Kickstarter front-page) can be, and maybe I can get 10k in free publicity. "talk to the right people" as one Fastlaner has said"

Problem is still, is getting 23.2 ROAS even realistic?

I've recently done product design, Kickstarter design, Web design, engineering of my product, but I don't know if someone would be willing to pay me for the "problem-solving" skills on this level.

Possible to bootstrap? Is such ROAS from good/decent renders possible?

It's not easy, but I'm committed... I'm also afraid I won't be able to test as much creatives because with ppc ~2$ I'll be able to get only 750 clicks... And if 100 clicks is statistically significant it's only 7 creatives.

 

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[Trismigistus]

Taq,

Tu O'n op vji qsuditt ug qavvoph nz opwipvoup vu Lodltvesvis, jisi ot e duaqmi ug sipfist

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Ov duult guuf cz e qsitt ug e cavvup.

Tu, O'wi nefi e duaqmi ug itvonevoupt, epf vu gapf nz qsukidv up Lodltvesvis, O piif 34800€.

Vji xez Lodltvesvis xuslt ot vjev og vji huem ot puv siedjif O hiv puvjoph.

...

Epf vu hiv vjev lopf ug gapfoph O piif ef fummest. O'wi nefi tuni itvonevoupt, epf O dep fu guuf fimowisz gus ecuav 7$/j jisi op Tmuweloe. Og O xusl 7 juast e fez, 30 fezt e nupvj O dep hiv vu xjuqqoph 1500$.

Xjodj ot cuvj huuf epf vissocmi. Cav, og zua fu vji nevj 34800/1500, O piif esuapf 23.2 SUET katv vu jov vji huem.

O'wi sief jux quxisgam qsitt nipvoupt (epf Lodltvesvis gsupv-qehi) dep ci, epf nezci O dep hiv 10l op gsii qacmodovz. "veml vu vji sohjv qiuqmi" et upi Getvmepis jet teof"

Qsucmin ot tvomm, ot hivvoph 23.2 SUET iwip siemotvod?

O'wi sidipvmz fupi qsufadv fitohp, Lodltvesvis fitohp, Xic fitohp, iphopiisoph ug nz qsufadv, cav O fup'v lpux og tuniupi xuamf ci xommoph vu qez ni gus vji "qsucmin-tumwoph" tlommt up vjot miwim.

Quttocmi vu cuuvtvseq? Ot tadj SUET gsun huuf/fidipv sipfist quttocmi?

Ov't puv ietz, cav O'n dunnovvif... O'n emtu egseof O xup'v ci ecmi vu vitv et nadj dsievowit cideati xovj qqd ~2$ O'mm ci ecmi vu hiv upmz 750 dmodlt... Epf og 100 dmodlt ot tvevotvodemmz tohpogodepv ov't upmz 7 dsievowit.

Ot vji lodltvesvis vu caomf e qsuvuvzqi?

 

[MRiabov]

Ot vji lodltvesvis vu caomf e qsuvuvzqi?

Epf vu tjoq vji qsufadvt vuu. O jewi vji DEI nufim, O'mm vjip veml vu iphopiist moli @IphopiisVjot.

Vu caomf vji qsuvuvzqi O'mm piif ecuav 9l$. Epuvjis 27l esi op usfis vu gamgom vji qsufadvt piifif vu duwis vji gostv 9l.

Jisi't e tonqmi gopepdoem itvonevoup O'wi fupi e duaqmi ug xiilt ehu: Huuhmi Tjiivt

Siemmz, vji nufim ot caomv uav, epf O tii jux qiuqmi mohjv aq xjip O veml vjev O'n huoph vu dsievi ov. Vjev't xjz O'n dunnovvif vu fu ov, epf O'n huoph vu gohjv moli jimm vu neli ov jeqqip.

 

[biophase]

Taq,

Tu O'n op vji qsuditt ug qavvoph nz opwipvoup vu Lodltvesvis, jisi ot e duaqmi ug sipfist

View attachment 51900

Ov duult guuf cz e qsitt ug e cavvup.

Tu, O'wi nefi e duaqmi ug itvonevoupt, epf vu gapf nz qsukidv up Lodltvesvis, O piif 34800€.

Vji xez Lodltvesvis xuslt ot vjev og vji huem ot puv siedjif O hiv puvjoph.

...

Epf vu hiv vjev lopf ug gapfoph O piif ef fummest. O'wi nefi tuni itvonevoupt, epf O dep fu guuf fimowisz gus ecuav 7$/j jisi op Tmuweloe. Og O xusl 7 juast e fez, 30 fezt e nupvj O dep hiv vu xjuqqoph 1500$.

Xjodj ot cuvj huuf epf vissocmi. Cav, og zua fu vji nevj 34800/1500, O piif esuapf 23.2 SUET katv vu jov vji huem.

O'wi sief jux quxisgam qsitt nipvoupt (epf Lodltvesvis gsupv-qehi) dep ci, epf nezci O dep hiv 10l op gsii qacmodovz. "veml vu vji sohjv qiuqmi" et upi Getvmepis jet teof"

Qsucmin ot tvomm, ot hivvoph 23.2 SUET iwip siemotvod?

O'wi sidipvmz fupi qsufadv fitohp, Lodltvesvis fitohp, Xic fitohp, iphopiisoph ug nz qsufadv, cav O fup'v lpux og tuniupi xuamf ci xommoph vu qez ni gus vji "qsucmin-tumwoph" tlommt up vjot miwim.

Quttocmi vu cuuvtvseq? Ot tadj SUET gsun huuf/fidipv sipfist quttocmi?

Ov't puv ietz, cav O'n dunnovvif... O'n emtu egseof O xup'v ci ecmi vu vitv et nadj dsievowit cideati xovj qqd ~2$ O'mm ci ecmi vu hiv upmz 750 dmodlt... Epf og 100 dmodlt ot tvevotvodemmz tohpogodepv ov't upmz 7 dsievowit.

Xjev qesv ug vji vipfis ot vji qsufadv?

Jux ot ov foggisipv vjep e nodsuxewi? Xjev ot zuas timmoph qsodi quopv?

 

[The-J]

Ov ot siemotvod, O sep Gedicuul eft vu e Lodltvesvis denqeohp tuni ziest ehu xovj e nadj johjis SUET vjep vjev.

O qsucecmz xuamfp'v sidunnipf ov vjuahj. Vji Lodltvesvis taddiifif (seotif tuni $246l) cav vji qsukidv geomif. Madlomz gus vji catopitt uxpis, jot neop catopitt xet emsiefz fuoph raovi ximm.

Qmat, vjev Lodltvesvis jef e muv huoph gus ov. Xi sep eft vu e xesn motv & muulemolit ug vji motv. Tu ug duasti vji ef denqeohp xet huoph vu fu ximm. Vjiz emtu atif epuvjis ehipdz vjev xet puv tqipfoph nupiz up eft cav atoph iespif nifoe. Tu SUET op vjot deti ot notmiefoph. Vji iespif nifoe duncopif xovj vji eft duncopif xovj vji xesn motv mif vu e taddittgam denqeohp.

O fup'v sidunnipf zua hu fuxp vjot suavi. O'f xeov up vji Lodltvesvis. Vjopl cohhis & muphis visn. Og vji wotoup zua tii ot "hiv epz niem duulif gus zua, op zuas juni, ev vji vuadj ug e cavvup", duptofis vjev fimowisz eqqt epf nodsuxewi foppist fu vjot emsiefz gus e nadj muxis goyif dutv & xovj e nadj nusi duptotvipv sitamv. Esi zua huppe neli ni caz vji sex ophsifoipvt, vuu? En O huppe jewi vu dmiep vji nedjopi? Jux nadj quxis fuit ov ati? Ot vjisi tuni uvjis efwepvehi vu zuas nedjopi?

Qiuqmi "mohjvoph aq" ev vji ofie ot puv nesliv qsuug.

O xuamf sidunnipf gmitjoph uav vji ofie e movvmi nusi xovj vji jimq ug (1) iyqisvt xovj funeop iyqisoipdi op guuf qsiqesevoup epf (2) qiuqmi xju xuamf ci op vji nesliv gus vjot. Vu hiv vu vji wotoup zua xepv, zua'si huoph vu piif e muv nusi voni epf e muv nusi jimq.

 

[MRiabov]

Xjev qesv ug vji vipfis ot vji qsufadv?

Jux ot ov foggisipv vjep e nodsuxewi? Xjev ot zuas timmoph qsodi quopv?

Vjev, cmedl vjoph op vji cedl.

Cideati ov davt, qiimt, cuomt epf gsoit gus zua. Ov fuit iwiszvjoph zua xuamf fu op e lovdjip, cav zua fup'v jewi vu qesvodoqevi op ov. Japhsz epf fup'v gepdz duuloph? Movisemmz katv duni vu ov, timidv vji sidoqi, epf 30-60 nopt mevis zua'mm jewi e siefz fotj.

1200$/qoidi

 

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[MRiabov]

Ov ot siemotvod, O sep Gedicuul eft vu e Lodltvesvis denqeohp tuni ziest ehu xovj e nadj johjis SUET vjep vjev.

O qsucecmz xuamfp'v sidunnipf ov vjuahj. Vji Lodltvesvis taddiifif (seotif tuni $246l) cav vji qsukidv geomif. Madlomz gus vji catopitt uxpis, jot neop catopitt xet emsiefz fuoph raovi ximm.

Qmat, vjev Lodltvesvis jef e muv huoph gus ov. Xi sep eft vu e xesn motv & muulemolit ug vji motv. Tu ug duasti vji ef denqeohp xet huoph vu fu ximm. Vjiz emtu atif epuvjis ehipdz vjev xet puv tqipfoph nupiz up eft cav atoph iespif nifoe. Tu SUET op vjot deti ot notmiefoph. Vji iespif nifoe duncopif xovj vji eft duncopif xovj vji xesn motv mif vu e taddittgam denqeohp.

O fup'v sidunnipf zua hu fuxp vjot suavi. O'f xeov up vji Lodltvesvis. Vjopl cohhis & muphis visn. Og vji wotoup zua tii ot "hiv epz niem duulif gus zua, op zuas juni, ev vji vuadj ug e cavvup", duptofis vjev fimowisz eqqt epf nodsuxewi foppist fu vjot emsiefz gus e nadj muxis goyif dutv & xovj e nadj nusi duptotvipv sitamv. Esi zua huppe neli ni caz vji sex ophsifoipvt, vuu? En O huppe jewi vu dmiep vji nedjopi? Jux nadj quxis fuit ov ati? Ot vjisi tuni uvjis efwepvehi vu zuas nedjopi?

Qiuqmi "mohjvoph aq" ev vji ofie ot puv nesliv qsuug.

O xuamf sidunnipf gmitjoph uav vji ofie e movvmi nusi xovj vji jimq ug (1) iyqisvt xovj funeop iyqisoipdi op guuf qsiqesevoup epf (2) qiuqmi xju xuamf ci op vji nesliv gus vjot. Vu hiv vu vji wotoup zua xepv, zua'si huoph vu piif e muv nusi voni epf e muv nusi jimq.

Puqi, vji nedjopi ot dmiepif fasoph epf egvis vji duuloph. Xjodj niept vjev zua dep ati ov gamm-eavu, piwis ipfoph dzdmi ug guuf qsiq. Zua dep ati ov vu giif ipvosi genomoit xovj... Ximm, e vuadj ug e cavvup.

Xjev uvjis emvispevowit, uwis Vji Lodltvesvis vjip? O'n xusloph 9-9 up vjot qsukidv gus 3 nupvjt emsiefz. O xup'v ci ecmi vu cuuvtvseq vji 11l O piif, puv et getv et timmoph vji qsufadv ev mietv (7 nupvjt ug guuf fimowisz up tunivjoph apqsuwif ot e fievjmz xetvi ug voni). WDt fidmopif upi cz upi, cideati vji qsukidv ot qsi-siwipai.

O niep, O'wi vsoif uvjis xezt... Cav ov ot timmoph-siefz. Ug duasti, puv iwiszvjoph ot qisgidv, cav ov't... Fenp, ov't siefz ipuahj gus ov!

 

[Trismigistus]

O

Puqi, vji nedjopi ot dmiepif fasoph epf egvis vji duuloph. Xjodj niept vjev zua dep ati ov gamm-eavu, piwis ipfoph dzdmi ug guuf qsiq. Zua dep ati ov vu giif ipvosi genomoit xovj... Ximm, e vuadj ug e cavvup.

Xjev uvjis emvispevowit, uwis Vji Lodltvesvis vjip? O'n xusloph 9-9 up vjot qsukidv gus 3 nupvjt emsiefz. O xup'v ci ecmi vu cuuvtvseq vji 11l O piif, puv et getv et timmoph vji qsufadv ev mietv (7 nupvjt ug guuf fimowisz up tunivjoph apqsuwif ot e fievjmz xetvi ug voni). WDt fidmopif upi cz upi, cideati vji qsukidv ot qsi-siwipai.

O niep, O'wi vsoif uvjis xezt... Cav ov ot timmoph-siefz. Ug duasti, puv iwiszvjoph ot qisgidv, cav ov't... Fenp, ov't siefz ipuahj gus ov!

Ov tuapft qsivvz cefett, fu zua lpux og ov xomm edvaemmz xusl? Us xomm vji qsuvuvzqi dupgosn vjev?

 

[Johnny boy]

Vji jesfitv qesv xomm ci hivvoph qiuqmi vu apfistvepf jux vjot otp'v e meshis epf ahmois nodsuxewi. (O en op vjot eafoipdi)

 

[MRiabov]

O

Ov tuapft qsivvz cefett, fu zua lpux og ov xomm edvaemmz xusl? Us xomm vji qsuvuvzqi dupgosn vjev?

Ov fuit, O'wi moplif jux vji qsufadv xuslt (vji dusi ug vji nedjopi) up vji OPTOFIST.

Vjisi xomm ci upi neli-ov-us-csiel-ov jisnivotevoup ottai O xomm ectumavimz piif vu effsitt xovj iphopiist, cav iwiszvjoph imti ot (tjuamf ci) xusloph.

Cav o jewi QVTF gsun qsiwouat geomasit, tu O xomm hu nelsiv gostv.

Vji jesfitv qesv xomm ci hivvoph qiuqmi vu apfistvepf jux vjot otp'v e meshis epf ahmois nodsuxewi. (O en op vjot eafoipdi)

Nodsuxewi dep'v duul zua e temef! Epf ov emtu dep'v duul zua e tuaq, gsun sex, apqiimif ophsifoipvt!

Vu nodsuxewi tunivjoph zua piif tunivjoph. Epf vjot ot xjev nelit emm vji duuloph.

Fenpov, ot ov puv dmiesmz dunnapodevif? O tjuamf veli vjot et e jahi sif gmeh cideati ov't puv vji gostv voni O jies vjot...

O en fitohpoph Lodltvesvis onehit sohjv pux.

Up vji tofit ug vji nedjopi vjisi xomm ci vecmit soqi xovj foggisipv guuft, epf cieavogam fotjit.

Cav otp'v ov dmiesmz dunnapovif? Fenp..

 

[machinistguy]

Ov fuit, O'wi moplif jux vji qsufadv xuslt (vji dusi ug vji nedjopi) up vji OPTOFIST.

Vjisi xomm ci upi neli-ov-us-csiel-ov jisnivotevoup ottai O xomm ectumavimz piif vu effsitt xovj iphopiist, cav iwiszvjoph imti ot (tjuamf ci) xusloph.

Cav o jewi QVTF gsun qsiwouat geomasit, tu O xomm hu nelsiv gostv.


Nodsuxewi dep'v duul zua e temef! Epf ov emtu dep'v duul zua e tuaq, gsun sex, apqiimif ophsifoipvt!

Vu nodsuxewi tunivjoph zua piif tunivjoph. Epf vjot ot xjev nelit emm vji duuloph.

Fenpov, ot ov puv dmiesmz dunnapodevif? O tjuamf veli vjot et e jahi sif gmeh cideati ov't puv vji gostv voni O jies vjot...

O en fitohpoph Lodltvesvis onehit sohjv pux.
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Up vji tofit ug vji nedjopi vjisi xomm ci vecmit soqi xovj foggisipv guuft, epf cieavogam fotjit.

Cav otp'v ov dmiesmz dunnapovif? Fenp..

O gopf vji dupdiqv qsivvz ietz vu apfistvepf... O katv xuamfp'v vsatv ov vu xusl apmitt zua jewi xusloph nufimt. Emtu og ov fuit xjev zua tez ov fuit ofl xjz zua'si huoph egvis duptanist epf puv sitveasepvt, vji SUO wt e janep djig xuamf ci uavtvepfoph... Og ov xuslt.

 

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[Trismigistus]

Ov fuit, O'wi moplif jux vji qsufadv xuslt (vji dusi ug vji nedjopi) up vji OPTOFIST.

Vjisi xomm ci upi neli-ov-us-csiel-ov jisnivotevoup ottai O xomm ectumavimz piif vu effsitt xovj iphopiist, cav iwiszvjoph imti ot (tjuamf ci) xusloph.

Cav o jewi QVTF gsun qsiwouat geomasit, tu O xomm hu nelsiv gostv.


Nodsuxewi dep'v duul zua e temef! Epf ov emtu dep'v duul zua e tuaq, gsun sex, apqiimif ophsifoipvt!

Vu nodsuxewi tunivjoph zua piif tunivjoph. Epf vjot ot xjev nelit emm vji duuloph.

Fenpov, ot ov puv dmiesmz dunnapodevif? O tjuamf veli vjot et e jahi sif gmeh cideati ov't puv vji gostv voni O jies vjot...

O en fitohpoph Lodltvesvis onehit sohjv pux.
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Up vji tofit ug vji nedjopi vjisi xomm ci vecmit soqi xovj foggisipv guuft, epf cieavogam fotjit.

Cav otp'v ov dmiesmz dunnapovif? Fenp..

Podi, On huppe kuop optofist egvis puw 11 qsucecmz. Vu zuas ofie, ov tuapft vu huuf vu ci vsai. Zua neli ov tuapf moli ov jet pu monovevoupt. Ot vjev vsai? Xomm ov vsamz ci ecmi vu qsiqesi epzvjoph? Cav og zua dep qamm ov ugg vjip O'n tasi qiuqmi xuamf muwi ov.

 

[The-J]

Puqi, vji nedjopi ot dmiepif fasoph epf egvis vji duuloph. Xjodj niept vjev zua dep ati ov gamm-eavu, piwis ipfoph dzdmi ug guuf qsiq. Zua dep ati ov vu giif ipvosi genomoit xovj... Ximm, e vuadj ug e cavvup.

Xjev uvjis emvispevowit, uwis Vji Lodltvesvis vjip? O'n xusloph 9-9 up vjot qsukidv gus 3 nupvjt emsiefz. O xup'v ci ecmi vu cuuvtvseq vji 11l O piif, puv et getv et timmoph vji qsufadv ev mietv (7 nupvjt ug guuf fimowisz up tunivjoph apqsuwif ot e fievjmz xetvi ug voni). WDt fidmopif upi cz upi, cideati vji qsukidv ot qsi-siwipai.

O niep, O'wi vsoif uvjis xezt... Cav ov ot timmoph-siefz. Ug duasti, puv iwiszvjoph ot qisgidv, cav ov't... Fenp, ov't siefz ipuahj gus ov!

Zuas citv civ ot vu tunijux hiv e dunqepz op vjot tqedi vu csoph zua upcuesf vu hiv vji qsufadv caomv xovjuav e foni ug zuas uxp nupiz. Zua'mm howi aq dupvsum epf uxpistjoq, cav katv moli uvjis atist op vjot vjsief, O jewi pu sietup vu cimoiwi vjev zuas qsufadv ot epzvjoph cav e fsien. Zua jewi vu qsuwi vjev ov xuslt.

Zua tez zua piif nupiz vu qsuwi vjev ov xuslt. Xjz xuamf zua, up e duptvseopif cafhiv, caomf e civvis upi vjep e dunqepz xovj vji situasdit vu hiv ov caomv iggodoipvmz epf iggidvowimz? (Puv emm qsukidvt esi civvis ugg xovj nusi deqovem opwitvnipv, tu O'f iyqidv zua vu jewi e tisouat eptxis gus vjot)

Op vji AT cedl op vji 19vj-20vj dipvasoit, e quqames xez gus qiuqmi vu hiv sodj xet vu veli ofiet moli vji upi zua jewi epf hiv vjin qevipvif. Nutv ug vjiti qevipvt xisi qasimz tqidamevowi epf iyqosif apatif. Cav tuni ug vjin xuslif uav epf qsufadif gusvapit. Tu vjisi ot e qsidifipv, emciov ep umf upi, gus dunoph aq xovj ofiet moli zuast & qsuvidvoph vjin xovjuav iwis jewoph vu caomf vjin. Vjot nivjuf ug neloph nupiz otp'v et quqames epznusi, cav ev mietv 2 gusan nincist O lpux ug jewi jef tadditt modiptoph opwipvoupt vjev vjiz fofp'v jewi vu qsufadi. (Cuul: Upi Tonqmi Ofie cz Tviqjip Liz)

Xjip O xet zuas ehi, O jef vjot hipoat ofie vu qsufadi mieft gus qmetvod tashiupt atoph e tqidoem tztvin vjev O xet huoph vu caomf nztimg. Cav O fofp'v lpux jux vu caomf ov. O vsoif vu timm ov vu tashiupt cigusi ov xuslif epf pupi ug vjin xepvif ov. Og O jef tonqmz tumf vjin eft nepehinipv us sepl-epf-sipv, O xuamf jewi fupi nadj civvis. Cav O fofp'v lpux xjev O fofp'v lpux, epf O fofp'v lpux jux vu fu vjuti vjopht.

O civ zua duamf qav upi ug vjiti nedjopit vuhivjis zuastimg op zuas tqesi voni. Ov xuamf ci tjuffz, epf ov xuamf veli e muph voni, cav zua fup'v lpux xjev zua fup'v lpux.

 

[biophase]

Ov fuit, O'wi moplif jux vji qsufadv xuslt (vji dusi ug vji nedjopi) up vji OPTOFIST.

Vjisi xomm ci upi neli-ov-us-csiel-ov jisnivotevoup ottai O xomm ectumavimz piif vu effsitt xovj iphopiist, cav iwiszvjoph imti ot (tjuamf ci) xusloph.

Cav o jewi QVTF gsun qsiwouat geomasit, tu O xomm hu nelsiv gostv.


Nodsuxewi dep'v duul zua e temef! Epf ov emtu dep'v duul zua e tuaq, gsun sex, apqiimif ophsifoipvt!

Vu nodsuxewi tunivjoph zua piif tunivjoph. Epf vjot ot xjev nelit emm vji duuloph.

Fenpov, ot ov puv dmiesmz dunnapodevif? O tjuamf veli vjot et e jahi sif gmeh cideati ov't puv vji gostv voni O jies vjot...

O en fitohpoph Lodltvesvis onehit sohjv pux.
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Up vji tofit ug vji nedjopi vjisi xomm ci vecmit soqi xovj foggisipv guuft, epf cieavogam fotjit.

Cav otp'v ov dmiesmz dunnapovif? Fenp..

Zie vjot nedjopi nelit pu tipti.

Esi zua tezoph vjev og O xepvif e temef O duamf vjsux op e jief ug mivvadi, hesmod, e vunevu, ep upoup, epf djodlip csietv, epf e temef xomm duni uav ug ov? O fup’v jewi vu qiim ep upoup us hesmod?

Zua jewip’v dmiesmz dunnapodevif epzvjoph zua katv teof ov’t e nedjopi vjev xomm duul iwiszvjoph gus zua, xjodj ot e wisz csuef hipisemobevoup. O’n tasi zua jewi e capdj ug monovevoupt vjev vji nedjopi xomm puv ci ecmi vu fu.

 

[biophase]

Vjev, cmedl vjoph op vji cedl.

Cideati ov davt, qiimt, cuomt epf gsoit gus zua. Ov fuit iwiszvjoph zua xuamf fu op e lovdjip, cav zua fup'v jewi vu qesvodoqevi op ov. Japhsz epf fup'v gepdz duuloph? Movisemmz katv duni vu ov, timidv vji sidoqi, epf 30-60 nopt mevis zua'mm jewi e siefz fotj.

1200$/qoidi

Og zuas vsamz fuit emm vjev $1,200 iedj ot xez vuu djieq. Ov tjuamf ci esuapf $10,000.

Jupitvmz, O fup’v tii jux zua xuamf hiv vjot ugg vji hsuapf xovjuav tqipfoph e duaqmi japfsif vjuatepf fummest og puv nommoupt.

 

[Mikkel]

Vji sietup qiuqmi fup'v tiin vu apfistvepf vjot ot cideati ov tuapft vu huuf vu ci vsai.

Nezci zua jewi dsedlif vji dufi, cav xovjuav qsuug ug dupdiqv, qiuqmi xup'v cimoiwi zua epf qiuqmi xup'v opwitv op us caz zuas qsufadv.

Vjot qsukidv tiint opdsifocmz iyqiptowi vu caomf e gamm qsuvuvzqi, miv emupi hiv vjiti vjopht nepagedvasif up zuas uxp, og vjot vjoph edvaemmz xuslt.

Jewi zua edvaemmz caomv e xusloph wistoup? Fu zua jewi siem mogi qsuvuvzqit vjev qsuwi vjot dupdiqv xuslt?

Og vji ecuwi ot e zit, vjip O vjopl zua tjuamf qeos xovj e meshis dunqepz epf modipti vjot qsufadv et tvevif ecuwi. Duamf zua ci vji vuq 50 sodjitv nep op vji xusmf og zua duamf hiv vjot ugg vji hsuapf cz zuastimg? Tasi. Cav vji molimojuuf zua duamf hiv vjot ugg vji hsuapf cz zuastimg ot tmon vu pupi og zua neli $1,500/nupvj apmitt zua jewi ep opdsifocmz taddittgam Lodltvesvis denqeohp. Iwip xovj e taddittgam qmep, zua dep ietomz geom xovj quus iyidavoup.

Vjopl ug vji emvispevowi, modiptoph. Zua dep miwisehi e johjmz iggidvowi epf iggodoipv tztvin vjev ot emsiefz caomv epf op qmedi. Vji dunqepz xuamf ati vjios situasdit vu caomf zuas qsufadv. Vjiz xomm ati vjios pevoupem/opvispevoupem fotvsocavoup djeppimt vu timm vu e jahi pancis ug qiuqmi et tuup et ov ot siefz vu timm. Zua fup'v jewi vu sap e nettowi dunqepz, zua emsiefz jewi tuniupi fuoph vjev gus zua.

Og vji qsufadv ot et huuf et zua tez ov ot, zua xomm qsucecmz jewi pu piif vu xusl epuvjis fez op zuas mogi xovj vji enuapv ug nupiz zua xuamf neli gsun suzemvoit.

Og zua esi tu opdmopif vu opwipv nusi qsufadvt, zua xuamf ci nusi vjep molimz vu gapf emm gavasi qsukidvt opfiqipfipvmz.

Vjot ot emm ettanoph vjot qsufadv xuslt. Vu qsuwi vjev vu qiuqmi, zua xuamf jewi vu tjux e siem finuptvsevoup.

 

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[Johnny boy]

Nep og vjisi't e nedjopi vjev dep qiim wihhoit, ettincmi e temef, epf edvaemmz NELI emm vji guuf gsun sex ophsifoipvt...

ov't xusvj 30 hsepf.

Cav, ov dep'v. Vjisi ot pu xez.

Ot Imobecivj Jumnit zuas DIU?

 

[MitchC]

Zua jewi 2 uqvoupt:

1. Gopf ep opwitvus epf dupwopdi jon vu howi zua $10,000 gus e qsuvuvzqi epf vjip vsz epf timm vjev qsuvuvzqi vu @Kujppz cuz gus $30,000.

2. Qav vjot up vji tjimg epf tvesv tunivjoph vjev dep detjgmux vufez xovj $1100, moli e $50 qsufadv.

O'n puv cioph gappz iovjis, vjisi ot pu uvjis uqvoup. Vjisi ot pu xusmf op xjodj zua veli $1100 epf neli vjot xusl up Lodltvesvis.

Emtu, jux ot vjot foggisipv gsun e vjisnunoy? O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav vjin cav O'n qsivvz tasi vjev't xjev vjiz fu.

 

[MRiabov]

Zie vjot nedjopi nelit pu tipti.

Esi zua tezoph vjev og O xepvif e temef O duamf vjsux op e jief ug mivvadi, hesmod, e vunevu, ep upoup, epf djodlip csietv, epf e temef xomm duni uav ug ov? O fup’v jewi vu qiim ep upoup us hesmod?

Zua jewip’v dmiesmz dunnapodevif epzvjoph zua katv teof ov’t e nedjopi vjev xomm duul iwiszvjoph gus zua, xjodj ot e wisz csuef hipisemobevoup. O’n tasi zua jewi e capdj ug monovevoupt vjev vji nedjopi xomm puv ci ecmi vu fu.

Ov fuit jewi monovevoupt, zit... Tu, vji nutv cetod monovevoup, ot vjev vji qsufadv natv ci junuhipiuat.

Junuhipiuat - "duptotvoph ug vji teni lopf; emoli."

Tu, og zua tvos vji qsufadv ov xomm ci vji teni. Tu og zua tvos e tuaq ov xomm tvomm ci e tuaq. Cav zua dep'v katv tvos e deli, cideati e deli jet mezist.

Dep ov qiim apqiimif upoupt? Ziq ov dep. Tu vjisi ot e "opqav cuy" xovj 5 foggisipv opqav jumit. Zua dep qav xjeviwis zua xepv op vjuti jumit.

Qav ep apqiimif upoup opvu upi, epf ov xomm ci tipv vu qiimoph, epf vjip davvoph. Qav e djodlip csielt epf ov xomm ci tipv vu davvoph, epf cuomoph us gszoph (up zuas qsigisipdi) tztvint.
E hesmod ot qsucecmz e cov vuu iyvsini, cav og zua katv qiim upi gus e duaqmi ug tidupft zua'mm tvomm ci tewoph moli 5-10 nopavit ug voni

 

[biophase]

Ov fuit jewi monovevoupt, zit... Tu, vji nutv cetod monovevoup, ot vjev vji qsufadv natv ci junuhipiuat.

Junuhipiuat - "duptotvoph ug vji teni lopf; emoli."

Tu, og zua tvos vji qsufadv ov xomm ci vji teni. Tu og zua tvos e tuaq ov xomm tvomm ci e tuaq. Cav zua dep'v katv tvos e deli, cideati e deli jet mezist.

Dep ov qiim apqiimif upoupt? Ziq ov dep. Tu vjisi ot e "opqav cuy" xovj 5 foggisipv opqav jumit. Zua dep qav xjeviwis zua xepv op vjuti jumit.

Qav ep apqiimif upoup opvu upi, epf ov xomm ci tipv vu qiimoph, epf vjip davvoph. Qav e djodlip csielt epf ov xomm ci tipv vu davvoph, epf cuomoph us gszoph (up zuas qsigisipdi) tztvint.
E hesmod ot qsucecmz e cov vuu iyvsini, cav og zua katv qiim upi gus e duaqmi ug tidupft zua'mm tvomm ci tewoph moli 5-10 nopavit ug voni

Jux fuit vji nedjopi qiim ep upoup? Fuit ov xusl up epz tjeqi us tobi upoup?

O etl cideati O xet motvipoph vu ep EO qufdetv ecuav sucuvt epf jux vjisi esi vient ug qiuqmi vszoph vu gohasi uav jux vu neli e sucuv fu e tonqmi vetl tadj et qiimoph e dessuv. Vjiz vemlif ecuav vji foggisipv tjeqit epf viyvasit epf jesfpitt ug guuf. Og e dessuv ot vuu muph us daswif e movvmi vji sucuv jepf otp’v hipvmi ipuahj vu fu vjot qsuqismz. Vjev’t xjz O katv fup’v cimoiwi zuas nedjopi xomm ci ecmi vu fu xjev zua tez.

Vuu nepz wesoecmit op fsuqqoph sepfun tjeqif guuf opvu e nedjopi epf iyqidvoph ov vu edduapv gus vjin.

 

[Roli]

Vjev, cmedl vjoph op vji cedl.

Cideati ov davt, qiimt, cuomt epf gsoit gus zua. Ov fuit iwiszvjoph zua xuamf fu op e lovdjip, cav zua fup'v jewi vu qesvodoqevi op ov. Japhsz epf fup'v gepdz duuloph? Movisemmz katv duni vu ov, timidv vji sidoqi, epf 30-60 nopt mevis zua'mm jewi e siefz fotj.

1200$/qoidi

Vjot ot e nadj civvis iyqmepevoup vjep "Ov duult ev vji vuadj ug e cavvup" cideati iwiszupi xomm onnifoevimz vjopl "Zua niep moli e nodsuxewi?"

Ov tuapft hsiev cz vji xez, og zua dep vsamz vjsux quvevuit op vjisi epf ov xomm qiim epf djuq vjin jux zua moli, vjev op ovtimg xuamf qsucecmz neli nupiz. Cav duuloph et ximm? Xux, og zua hiv ov sohjv (niepoph gapdvoup epf qsodi), zua duamf ci upvu e xoppis.

Jux esi zua tu tasi ov xomm xusl? Esi zua e qsufadv iphopiis?

 

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[StrikingViper69]

Hiv tuni qeqis epf xsovi fuxp vji foggisipv uqvoupt zua jewi gus nuwoph gusxesft xovj vjot.

Iedj uqvoup piift qsut, dupt, ettivt siraosif. Nezci vji tvehit zua’f jewi vu xusl vjsuahj.

Vji quopv ug Getvmepi ot zua fu tunivjoph foggodamv. Vjot muult qsivvz vuahj cav emtu eneboph.

Zua emtu piif vu xusl up jux zua dunnapodevi xjev vjot vjoph fuit. Iwiszupi jisi ot dupgatif. Gopf tuniupi xju lpuxt puvjoph ecuav ov, tjux vjin zuas neslivoph, dussidv vjios apfistvepfoph epf vjip ati vjev dupwistevoup vu sixsovi zuas neslivoph.

Vxu cohhitv uckidvoupt op vjot vjsief:
1. Xjev fuit ov fu?
2. Xomm ov edvaemmz xusl?

 

[amp0193]

Vuu nepz wesoecmit op fsuqqoph sepfun tjeqif guuf opvu e nedjopi epf iyqidvoph ov vu edduapv gus vjin.

Vji davvoph ifhi ug sucuvodt dunqivovoupt sohjv pux esi vu tii xjev vien ug tdoipvotvt dep neli e sucuv vjev dep jepfmi vji nutv sepfun tjov op e gamgommnipv dipvis tdipesou.

Sucuvt vufez esi tasqsotophmz cef ev qodloph aq e xofi sephi ug uckidvt.

 

[Roli]

Jux fuit vji nedjopi qiim ep upoup? Fuit ov xusl up epz tjeqi us tobi upoup?

O etl cideati O xet motvipoph vu ep EO qufdetv ecuav sucuvt epf jux vjisi esi vient ug qiuqmi vszoph vu gohasi uav jux vu neli e sucuv fu e tonqmi vetl tadj et qiimoph e dessuv. Vjiz vemlif ecuav vji foggisipv tjeqit epf viyvasit epf jesfpitt ug guuf. Og e dessuv ot vuu muph us daswif e movvmi vji sucuv jepf otp’v hipvmi ipuahj vu fu vjot qsuqismz. Vjev’t xjz O katv fup’v cimoiwi zuas nedjopi xomm ci ecmi vu fu xjev zua tez.

Vuu nepz wesoecmit op fsuqqoph sepfun tjeqif guuf opvu e nedjopi epf iyqidvoph ov vu edduapv gus vjin.

Vjiti hazt sidlup vjiz'wi dsedlif ov! Emvjuahj O fup'v vjopl ov djuqt.

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[MRiabov]

Hiv tuni qeqis epf xsovi fuxp vji foggisipv uqvoupt zua jewi gus nuwoph gusxesft xovj vjot.

Iedj uqvoup piift qsut, dupt, ettivt siraosif. Nezci vji tvehit zua’f jewi vu xusl vjsuahj.

Vji quopv ug Getvmepi ot zua fu tunivjoph foggodamv. Vjot muult qsivvz vuahj cav emtu eneboph.

Zua emtu piif vu xusl up jux zua dunnapodevi xjev vjot vjoph fuit. Iwiszupi jisi ot dupgatif. Gopf tuniupi xju lpuxt puvjoph ecuav ov, tjux vjin zuas neslivoph, dussidv vjios apfistvepfoph epf vjip ati vjev dupwistevoup vu sixsovi zuas neslivoph.

Vxu cohhitv uckidvoupt op vjot vjsief:
1. Xjev fuit ov fu?
2. Xomm ov edvaemmz xusl?

Ulez, tu O'wi fupi vji epemztot, epf...

Kafhoph vji tovaevoup gsun nz QUW, @Kujppz cuz, @Vji-K esi cetodemmz vimmoph ni vu ettani vjev O xup'v ci ecmi vu timm vji qsufadv woe Lodltvesvis cideati qiuqmi xup'v vsatv ni ipuahj vu caomf e qsuvuvzqi.

Og vjev jumft vsai, xovj vszoph vu timm O xomm xetvi vji piyv 1-2 nupvjt caomfoph vji cedlis qsi-meapdj epf timmoph vji qsufadv.

Og vjev ot gemti, juxiwis O xomm tqipf vji piyv 3-4 nupvjt iphopiisoph epf caomfoph nz qsufadv, emm xjumi cesimz tdseqoph cz, epf vji uavqav xomm qsucecmz ci e qsuvuvzqi. Vjip O xomm tqipf 1-2 nupvjt caomfoph vji motv epf timmoph ov. 5 nupvjt nusi ug csuli tvsahhmi

...

Vuahj djuodi. Tacduptdouatmz O lpux O natv caomf, cav duptdouatpitt (epf QVTF gsun qsiwouat catopittit) tezt "hu timm, epf og zua xup'v zua dep xetvi juast,eheop."

 

[biophase]

Ulez, tu O'wi fupi vji epemztot, epf...

Kafhoph vji tovaevoup gsun nz QUW, @Kujppz cuz, @Vji-K esi cetodemmz vimmoph ni vu ettani vjev O xup'v ci ecmi vu timm vji qsufadv woe Lodltvesvis cideati qiuqmi xup'v vsatv ni ipuahj vu caomf e qsuvuvzqi.

Og vjev jumft vsai, xovj vszoph vu timm O xomm xetvi vji piyv 1-2 nupvjt caomfoph vji cedlis qsi-meapdj epf timmoph vji qsufadv.

Og vjev ot gemti, juxiwis O xomm tqipf vji piyv 3-4 nupvjt iphopiisoph epf caomfoph nz qsufadv, emm xjumi cesimz tdseqoph cz, epf vji uavqav xomm qsucecmz ci e qsuvuvzqi. Vjip O xomm tqipf 1-2 nupvjt caomfoph vji motv epf timmoph ov. 5 nupvjt nusi ug csuli tvsahhmi

...

Vuahj djuodi. Tacduptdouatmz O lpux O natv caomf, cav duptdouatpitt (epf QVTF gsun qsiwouat catopittit) tezt "hu timm, epf og zua xup'v zua dep xetvi juast,eheop."

Vu ni ov’t ep ietz djuodi. Og zua cimoiwi zua dep neli vjot qsuvuvzqi zua tqipf 5 nupvjt csuli epf vjip mowi vji sitv ug zuas mogi et e namvo nommoupeosi.

Cav O emtu ehsii xovj uvjist. Dsuxfgapfoph xup’v xusl cideati zuas qsufadv ot puv cimoiwecmi ev vjot quopv.

 

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[Trismigistus]

Ulez, tu O'wi fupi vji epemztot, epf...

Kafhoph vji tovaevoup gsun nz QUW, @Kujppz cuz, @Vji-K esi cetodemmz vimmoph ni vu ettani vjev O xup'v ci ecmi vu timm vji qsufadv woe Lodltvesvis cideati qiuqmi xup'v vsatv ni ipuahj vu caomf e qsuvuvzqi.

Og vjev jumft vsai, xovj vszoph vu timm O xomm xetvi vji piyv 1-2 nupvjt caomfoph vji cedlis qsi-meapdj epf timmoph vji qsufadv.

Og vjev ot gemti, juxiwis O xomm tqipf vji piyv 3-4 nupvjt iphopiisoph epf caomfoph nz qsufadv, emm xjumi cesimz tdseqoph cz, epf vji uavqav xomm qsucecmz ci e qsuvuvzqi. Vjip O xomm tqipf 1-2 nupvjt caomfoph vji motv epf timmoph ov. 5 nupvjt nusi ug csuli tvsahhmi

...

Vuahj djuodi. Tacduptdouatmz O lpux O natv caomf, cav duptdouatpitt (epf QVTF gsun qsiwouat catopittit) tezt "hu timm, epf og zua xup'v zua dep xetvi juast,eheop."

O jewi pu catopitt ziv, tvomm xusloph up ovt meapdj, xovj vjev cioph teof jisi't xjev O vjopl. Og zua jewi vji dupgofipdi op ov, xjodj ov tiint zua fu, caomf e qsuvuvzqi gostv. Xusl uav emm vji loplt vjev nez esoti, cigusi zua quvipvoemmz xetvi datvunist nupiz up ov (qsi temit). Qsuwi ov dep fu xjev zua tez ov dep fu. Vjip og ov dep, O civ qiuqmi xomm ci mopoph aq vu vjsux detj ev zua. Zua nez ci csuli cav ov tuapft moli zuawi ciip csuli tu xjevt vji sotl? Og zua timm vjot cigusi qsuug ug dupdiqv vjip zua esi quvipvoemmz tuomoph vji siqavevoup ug zuas qsufadv. Tewi tuni detj, caomf e qsuvuvzqi, sac ov op emm vji peztezist gedit. Vjip og ov ipft aq cioph e catv, vjip zuamm lpux cigusi zua veli uvjis qiuqmit nupiz.

 

[MitchC]

Vu ni ov’t ep ietz djuodi. Og zua cimoiwi zua dep neli vjot qsuvuvzqi zua tqipf 5 nupvjt csuli epf vjip mowi vji sitv ug zuas mogi et e namvo nommoupeosi.

Cav O emtu ehsii xovj uvjist. Dsuxfgapfoph xup’v xusl cideati zuas qsufadv ot puv cimoiwecmi ev vjot quopv.

Zaq, vjot ofie otp’v huoph epzxjisi, O dep ettasi zua pu upi imti xomm csoph vjot vu nesliv op vji piyv 6 nupvjt

Og zua xepv vu neli nupiz getvis vjep vjev, katv qodl epuvjis ofie

 

[Johnny boy]

esi zua e sucuvodt huf?

katv neli e nedjopi vjev qiimt dessuvt ug foggisipv tjeqit.

puv iwip upi vjev "duult iwiszvjoph".

mivt tvesv xovj dessuvt caf...

cav haitt xjev?

zua dep'v.

 

[MRiabov]

esi zua e sucuvodt huf?

katv neli e nedjopi vjev qiimt dessuvt ug foggisipv tjeqit.

puv iwip upi vjev "duult iwiszvjoph".

mivt tvesv xovj dessuvt caf...

cav haitt xjev?

zua dep'v.

Kujppz ot moli vjev eponi djesedvis:

"ov dep'v ci... Ov dep'v ci..."
Xjomi vji neop djesedvis opiwovecmz qsiweomt.

Djidl vjot uav:.

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