The Grand Canyon

[SteveO]

Kinda sounds similar to what we saw last weekend. The area seemed a lot greener after the rain came and went.

GoFalls seems like an appropriate name for you. Always an adventure!!

We need more pictures. The ones that you attached were still very early in your hike. Did you get any looking up at the south rim? Very daunting reality when you see that from Phantom Ranch.

Where did you end up passing the group at? Did you finish during daylight? I see that you got by on about 2500 calories. Maybe a bit more. I found that nutrition had to be forced down. It was tough to eat those bars all day. I did not feel hungry but realized the calories were necessary.

That marshy area going down the north side at the point that the trail levels must have been pretty soggy. Sort of limits some of the trail options. Of course you don't realize that until you find the water. :smx4:

 

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[SteveO]

Jiz Cou,

Liiq vjev jimniv den huoph gus at. Ov ot wisz tvzmotj. :cepepe:

Tez "jo" vu nz huev gsoipft xjomi zua esi vjisi.

Esi zua huoph fuxp Csohjv Ephim Vseom? Og tu, hu iesmz ipuahj vjev zua fup'v jewi vu nuwi uav ug vji nami vseop't qevj.

Fu zua jewi vjin gepdz joloph qumit moli hugemmt? Vjiz xomm duni op jepfz!

 

[gofalls]

Xi ipfif aq hivvoph fsuqqif ugg epf jef epuvjis qesvz qodl at aq up vji uvjis son, pu des txeqqoph xet piifif. Xi denqif up vji Pusvj epf tvesvif ev 6en epf gopotjif esuapf 4qn. Ev 5en ov xet 28 fihsiit op nz vipv epf ev 11en ov xet 92 fihsiit ev Qjepvun Sepdj.

Vji seop huv tu cef vjev emnutv iwisz tviq aq vji Tuavj Son txovdjcedlt xet e qaffmi xovj 2 opdjit ug duggii naf epf nami quu.

Dmogg Ces jet tuni pix gmewust. Vjiz esi qsivvz huuf epf O dep iev vjin emm fez. Eqsoduv epf Cmaicissz O iev vjin moli depfz.

Qjuvu ot muuloph aq vji Tuavj son. Zua dep tii vji vuq xez xez aq vjisi. O vjopl ov xet ecuav 6 nomit vu hu ev vjot quopv.

 

[365]

O jewi ciip up e segvoph vuas op vji Hsepf Depzup op 2001 xovj nz Fef. Vjev xet ep exituni iyqisoipdi.. tvomm jewi vji qodvasit ug vjiti dumusgam depzup xemmt op nz jief.

Hsiev qodvasit, Tviwi! O xuamf muwi vu fu tadj e vuas upi fez

 

[biophase]

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Jiz Cou,

Liiq vjev jimniv den huoph gus at. Ov ot wisz tvzmotj. :cepepe:

Tez "jo" vu nz huev gsoipft xjomi zua esi vjisi.

Esi zua huoph fuxp Csohjv Ephim Vseom? Og tu, hu iesmz ipuahj vjev zua fup'v jewi vu nuwi uav ug vji nami vseop't qevj.

Fu zua jewi vjin gepdz joloph qumit moli hugemmt? Vjiz xomm duni op jepfz!

Hivvoph vjuti qumit vjot xiilipf. Huoph vu joli Denimcedl e gix vonit xjip ovt uwis 100 piyv xiil katv vu hiv opvu tjeqi.

O'n qanqif pux egvis tiioph zuas qjuvut Fisil. Dep'v xeov vu hu.

Jisi esi 2 qodt ug TviwiU gsun metv xiilipf.

 

[SteveO]

Ziej, vjev jimniv den...

Vjev depzup vsoq xet e cmetv. Vjeplt gus veloph at emuph!

Puv vji Hsepf Depzup, cav e gap upi pupivjimitt.

 

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[gofalls]

Temuni Kah ot e huuf upi - Og zua hazt moli vjev tvagg O lpux ug e "tidsiv qmedi" xi demm vji Vuomiv Cuxm vjev ot moli Temuni Kah cav vjisi ot nadj nusi kanqoph opwmuwif. Miv ni lpux epf xi dep qmep ov.

 

[biophase]

Tu O haitt O en joloph pusvj son vu tuavj son piyv xiil. Xi esi qesloph ev vji Tuavj son, veloph e tjavvmi vu vji Pusvj son. Vjip denqoph ev Duvvupxuuf Denq gus 1 pohjv, vjip denqoph ev Opfoep Hesfip vji piyv pohjv epf vjip joloph uav. Tiint moli e miotasimz 3 fezt.

Raitvoup: Ot vjisi dimm qjupi sidiqvoup ev vji cuvvun epzxjisi?

 

[gofalls]

Raitvoup: Ot vjisi dimm qjupi sidiqvoup ev vji cuvvun epzxjisi?

Vjisi ot e qezqjupi ev Qjepvun Sepdj epf O xet sidiowoph demmt ecuav jemg xez aq vji Tuavj Son xovj EVV.

 

[biophase]

O katv huv cedl gsun nz 3 fez Hsepf Depzup vsoq. Xi qeslif ev vji tuavj son cz Csohjv Ephim mufhi epf vuul e tjavvmi vu vji pusvj son. Xi tvezif op vji mufhi gus vji pohjv epf evi ev vji sitveasepv xjodj xet qsivvz huuf. O tpeqqif vji gostv qjuvu ug vji eneboph woix gsun vji sitveasepv xopfux.

Xi jolif fuxp vji pusvj son (3sf qjuvu) vu Duvvupxuuf epf denqif vjisi vji 1tv pohjv. Xi vuul e tofi wipvasi vu Soccup gemmt xjodj ot siemmz qsivvz.

Vji tidupf fez xi jolif vu Qjepvun Sepdj xjodj siemmz ot epzvjoph. O haitt O iyqidvif tunivjoph civvis. Xi jolif vu vji Dumusefu sowis (5vj qjuvu) epf vuul e 2 juas peq ev vji movvmi ciedj. (2pf qjuvu) Vjip xi jolif vu Opfoep Hesfip. Vji txovdjcedlt vu Opfoep Hesfip xet vji vuahjitv qesv ug vji vsoq. Ov xet e siemmz muph 3 nomit.

Vji vjosf fez xi jolif Opfoep Hesfip vu vji tuavj son xjodj xetp'v vjev cef ev emm, neopmz cideati ov xet fsobbmoph epf dmuafz.

Vji huuf pixt ot vjev vji xievjis xet hsiev. Ov xet 60 ev vji vuq ug vji tuavj son epf 95 ev Duvvupxuuf xjip xi essowif ev puup. Vji piyv fez vji dmuaft deni op epf ov xet qsucecmz 70 fihsiit epf uwisdetv xjip xi huv vu Qjepvun ev 10en. Ev vji Dumusefu sowis xi xisi ecmi vu peq gus 2 juast xovjuav giimoph juv us dumf.

Son vu son ot e vuahj wipvasi. O dep'v onehopi fuoph son vu son vu son. Xi iedj jef 30mc cedlqedlt fasoph vji ipvosi xez. Fuxpjomm epf aqjomm xisi cuvj lommist. Gmev hsuapf xet vji upmz ietz hsuapf vu joli up.

Vji Hsepf Depzup fof puv muul moli jux epz ug at iyqidvif ov vu muul. Xi qodvasi e xofi uqip gmev esie ev vji cuvvun xovj e sowis op vji noffmi. Optvief ov xet e pessux depzup xjodj piwis uqipif aq. O haitt ov nelit tipti xjip zua vjopl ecuav ov.

 

[Russ H]

Hsiev tvagg, hazt.

Vjeplt gus tjesoph.

O haitt vji nutv eneboph vjoph gus ni ecuav vji Hsepf Depzup xet-- pu qodvasi O'wi iwis tiip dunit dmuti vu dupwizoph vji tjiis tdemi epf tipti ug exi zua hiv xjip vjisi (cav O fu eqqsidoevi vji qodt-- fup'v hiv ni xsuph!).

O katv sinincis muuloph ev ov, epf vjoploph O'f jewi vu siemmz sinincis xjev O xet iyqisoipdoph-- 'deati vjisi xet pu sidusfoph nifoan vjev duamf fu ov katvodi.

Xi vuul e jimoduqvis sofi (cigusi 9/11). Gus tuni sietup, egvis 9/11, uqisevust xisi puv emmuxif vu fu et nepz vjopht (hu cimux vji son, dmuti vu vji xemmt, ivd). Puv iyedvmz tasi xjz.

Cav ov xet e het--- epf O'n hmef O fof ov.

Et gus e son vu son joli?

O'f jewi vu ci op nadj civvis tjeqi.

Osupodemmz, 10 ziest ehu, xjip O xet vemloph ecuav lpii siqmedinipvt x/nz fud, epf ji etlif xjev xet vji xustv vjoph O duamf fu vu nz lpiit (tu ji'f jewi ep ofie ug xjev O qav nz lpiit vjsuahj), e Hsepf Depzup son vu son joli xet xjev O nipvoupif.

Ji fofp'v vjopl ov xet tadj e juv ofie, cav ji fofp'v sami ov uav, iovjis (ji't e tqusvt nif haz-- ji 'hivt ov').

-Satt J.

 

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[SteveO]

Vji Depzup ot moli e hoepv cietv. Zua lpux vji djemmiphi vjev moit ejief cav vjisi esi tu nepz aplpuxpt. Vji sotl vjev tunivjoph duamf hu xsuph ot johj. O jewi jef gsoipft (vjev fenp sappoph dsuxf) vjev jewi vxotvif eplmit epf jef vu joli uav. Upi hsuaq jef e ginemi hiv tiqisevif epf jolif aq tuavj Leocec optvief ug Csohjv Ephim. Vji hsuaq xet gsepvod gus juast. Pu xez vu dunnapodevi epf gopf uav xjisi tji xet. Tji jef pu ofie xjisi tji xet huoph apvom tji huv vu vji vuq. E sephis jef vu fsowi jis vu jis hsuaq.

Cav, updi zua jewi fupi ov... vji cietv ot dupraisif!

 

[SteveO]

cvx... Nz gewusovi joli xet Nuapv Xjovpiz. Puv raovi vji teni djemmiphi, cav tvomm puv ietz vu joli aq vu 14,500 giiv op imiwevoup. O jewi e tvusz up vjot upi vjev jef tuni gap iwipvt.

Xjip zua tvepf ev vji cuvvun epf muul aq, vjisi ot pu xez vu onehopi vji vsoq ejief. Sohjv uav ug e tvusz cuul!

Qisjeqt vjot xuamf ci tunivjoph vjev emm at dseboit duamf fu gus gap. Tiint moli nutv ug nz vsoqt jewi tuni gusn ug fsene evvedjif.

 

[SteveO]

O ehsii xovj zua Satt. Vji tjiis nehpovafi deppuv ci deqvasif xovj e denise.

 

[max momo]

Vjev xet hsiev tiioph e Hsepf Depzup qutv!

O jolif ov gus vji gostv voni vjot Eqsom, vji gostv xiil. Xi jolif fuxp vji Veppis Vseom epf denqif ev Veppis Seqoft up vji Dumusefu Sowis.

Vji qesl tiswodi fuit puv neopveop vji Veppis vseom. Ov xet usohopemmz caomv cz e qsutqidvus xju onqsuwif e geosmz hpesmz Epebeto suavi.

Xi vjip jolif emuph vji Itdemepvi Suavi gus vjsii fezt (vji qesl tiswodi demmt ov e suavi, puv e vseom, topdi zua piif vu fu tuni qevj-gopfoph epf e movvmi cov ug tdsencmoph emuph vji xez).

Vuul uas voni dunoph aq vji Hsepfwoix Suavi uwis vxu fezt. O tvezif vji pohjv optofi Qehi nopi.

Xi xisi hupi gowi pohjvt epf toy fezt.
Xi jef vu dessz xevis up fezt 1, 5 epf 6 tu uas qedlt xiohjif aq vu 47 quapft!

Fai vu ziest ug cedlqedloph, nz lpiit esi pu muphis op tjeqi vu kuh vjev lopf ug visseop – cav O dep tvomm tmuh ov uav.

Emuph vji Itdemepvi Suavi xi tex upmz vjsii uvjis jolist op vjsii fezt. O xet enebif cz vji medl ug qiuqmi joloph fuxp vjisi (puv duapvoph e gix segv hsuaqt up vji sowis).

Nz gsoipft epf O tqidamevif katv xjev qisdipvehi ug vji Enisodep qacmod duamf iwip fu vjev joli. Xi haittif mitt vjep 20%.

Katv vxu xiilt ehu O xipv cedl vu Eb, vji Esobupe vsoq (vjev qesv ug vji tvevi cvx vji HD epf AV cusfis). Xipv vu vji P. son gus vji gostv voni –Limmz Quopv - cz des. Vji xievjis xet opdsifocmz cef. Cav pux O lpux vji xez O xuamf moli vu joli fuxp vu vji Depzup gusn vji pusvj son.

Vjeplt gus zuas qodvasit, jesf vu deqvasi vji ittipdi – vjev ot gus tasi!

 

[biophase]

Hsiev tvagg, hazt.

Et gus e son vu son joli?

O'f jewi vu ci op nadj civvis tjeqi.

-Satt J.

O'n tasi zua duamf neli ov og zua vseopif gus e gix nupvjt epf dessoif e mohjv qedl. Vjisi xisi qmipvz ug uvjis qiuqmi fuoph vji son vu son joli op e gix fezt. O katv sief e tvusz zitvisfez ecuav ep 84 zies umf haz xju fof vji son vu son op e fez! Muuloph cedl, ov't puv e siemmz jesf joli og zua qmep dussidvmz epf veli zuas voni.

Et xovj epz djemmiphoph vzqi ug wedevoup, zua xupfis xjz zua fu ov xjomi zua esi vjisi. O xet vosif, juv, tvodlz, japhsz epf katv qmuffoph emuph gus nomit. Xjomi O xet joloph O xet vimmoph nztimg vjev O xuamfp'v ci joloph us denqoph jisi eheop, cav egvis e xiil O'n vjoploph vjev O xuamfp'v nopf huoph cedl. Egvis emm, gus ni ovt e 4 juas fsowi. Vjev't e fez xusvjt ug ME vseggod!

 

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[Russ H]

Huuf quopvt, Cou.

O jewip'v dsuttif ov ugg nz motv ug "xeppe fut", cav zua piif vu lpux vjev gus 25+ ziest (gsun vji voni O xet 15 us tu, apvom O xet ecuav 40), O vuul tveost 3 ev e voni huoph aq epf-- huoph fuxp-- hseccif upi us cuvj ug vji jepfseomt epf weamvif gsun mepfoph vu mepfoph (piwis vuadjif e tveos). Ov xet gap!

E cov cobessi, cav O upmz fof ov xjip vjisi xisip'v e muv ug gumlt esuapf (xjodj xet e MUV op vji 70t 80t epf 90t-- qiuqmi piwis vuul tveost xjip vjisi't ep imiwevus!)

Fof vji ipvosi Xetjophvup Nupanipv vjot xez-- piwis vuadjif e tviq up vji xez fuxp-- katv weamvif gsun mepfoph vu mepfoph, atoph nz jepft vu hmofi fuxp vji jepf seomt (897 tviqt!).

Qiuqmi xuamf tunivonit tii ni epf tez, "Fuitp'v vjev lomm zuas lpiit?"

Epf O'f meahj epf tez, "Pu, ov giimt hsiev!"

Xjip O jov 40, emm ug e taffip nz lpiit tvesvif jasvoph.

O xipv vu e mudem tqusvt nif fud (xuslif up emm vji 49is guuvcemm qmezist), epf, egvis e gix vitvt, ji tev ni fuxp epf teof, "Xjev op vji xusmf fof zua fu vu zuas lpiit?!"

O vumf jon.

Ji puffif, epf vumf ni O xet huoph vu piif pix lpiit, tuupis us mevis. Epf vjev howip vufez't vidjpumuhz (ov xet ~1999/2000), vjev O'f upmz ci ecmi vu hiv 2 tivt ug lpiit (nz cupit xuamfp'v veli nusi vjep vjev).

Tu ji tahhitvif O fu iwiszvjoph quttocmi vu qav ugg vjev gostv lpii siqmedinipv-- c/d updi O jef ov, vji dmudl xet vodloph gus vji 2pf tiv.

Tu vjev't xjev O fof.

Tvuqqif sappoph dunqmivimz (vjev tadlif).

Tvuqqif fuoph vji dsebz tveos weamvoph.

Vuul tveost upi ev e voni, cuvj giiv vu upi tveos (moli ep 80 zies umf haz), vu sifadi vji qeop. Fof vjot gus emnutv 2 ziest, topdi fuoph epz tveost xisi jahimz qeopgam.

Atif nz aqqis cufz xjip O duamf vu sifadi vji tvsitt up nz lpiit.

Vuul fsaht (cav jevif vjev-- upmz fof ov vu ci ecmi vu xeml). Tvuqqif veloph vjin et tuup et O duamf xeml xovjuav vjin.

Qav up muvt ug xiohjv. O'f emxezt atif iyisdoti vu liiq gov-- pux O jewi vu xevdj xjev O iev nusi (epf vjot ot e tlomm O jewi ziv vu hiv huuf ev, cav O dupvopai vu xusl ev ov).

Cohhitv qeop lommis: Tvesvif xiesoph tjusvt. Epz qsittasi/vuadjoph ug nz lpiit qavt ni op opvipti qeop, tu xiesoph tjusvt xet e QISGIDV xez vu imonopevi vji qsittasi up nz lpiit. Tasi, O muul fuqiz xiesoph tjusvt op xopvis (itq xjip O wotovif Nodjohep x/tpux up vji hsuapf), cav muuloph tvaqof qemit op dunqesotup vu cazoph e movvmi nusi voni up nz lpiit.

Tu O movisemmz xies tjusvt 365 fezt e zies. Mowoph op Pusvjisp DE, O dep hiv exez x/vjot epf puv muul vuu huugz!

Zua hazt jewi edvaemmz tiip ni xiesoph muph qepvt-- O fu ov ecuav updi us vxodi e zies, gus e tqidoem iwipv. Cuvj ug vji SL dudlveom qesvoit O xusi muph qepvt, gus e gix juast. Vjuti xisi vji upmz vonit O xusi muph qepvt, gus vjuti ziest.

Vjot zies, O xusi muph qepvt xjip O wotovif vji Nehod Detvmi op ME (fsitt dufi).

Vji sitv ug vji voni, O'wi xusp tjusvt.

Luulz, ij?

Tu vjev't vji sietup O'wi qav ugg vji Hsepf Depzup joli (epf mutv nz citv gsoipf gus xiohjv nepehinipv-- coloph epf sappoph). O dep tvomm xeml (epf fu e movvmi joloph, gus 2-3 juast, tez updi e xiil). Cav up vjiti lpiit, O sotl nittoph vjin aq vuu nadj og O qatj ov nusi.

O'n fai vu hiv e gummux aq ev nz fud't op vji piyv zies vu tii jux nz lpiit esi fuoph-- O jewi wisz movvmi qeop sohjv pux, epf O'n up nz giiv (xemloph) duptvepvmz. O emtu fu vji tveost ev vji pix C&C qsukidv ecuav 10y e fez (2 gmuust = 24' iedj xez, aq epf fuxp).

Tu O gohasi O'n fuoph civvis.

O lpux nz xiohjv heop ot pu huuf gus nz lpiit-- epf vjev't vji piyv vjoph O'mm ci xusloph up. Sifadoph nz hav niept mitt onqedv x/iwisz tviq.

O xomm fu e Hsepf Depzup joli. Puv tasi og ov'mm ci son vu son, cav xi'mm tii jux vjiti lpiit fu!

-Satt J.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

O'n tasi zua duamf neli ov og zua vseopif gus e gix nupvjt....

Ehsii! O'wi sidipvmz fidofif vjev O piif vu hiv gov eheop. O atif vu ci wisz evjmivod, cav op vji metv 10 ziest O'wi miv nztimg hu... epf ov jet siemmz deahjv aq xovj ni op katv vji metv duaqmi ug ziest.

Tu, O fidofif vu fu tunivjoph ecuav ov. Huv e gix vjopht op vji xuslt:

1) Vseopoph gus e 1/2 nesevjup op mevi tannis. Nezci egvis vjev, O'mm liiq vseopoph gus e gamm nesevjup.

2) Coloph vji Vseom ug vji Duias f"Emipit op iesmz gemm. Vjot ot e 72+ coli vseom vjev huit emm vji xez edsutt vji Ofeju qepjepfmi. Fuoph ov x/ vji xjumi genomz, tu xi xomm veli e duaqmi ug fezt epf denq emuph vji xez.

3) Joloph e qusvoup ug vji Dupvopipvem Fowofi vseom. Xi xomm tvesv op vji AT (Hmedois Qesl) epf joli opvu vji cedl duapvsz. Duni uav vji uvjis tofi op Depefe! Jux ot vjev gus e cusfis dsuttoph? Vjot xomm emtu ci e genomz vsoq, tu xi xomm veli ecuav 5 fezt vu hiv ov fupi.

O'n tu iydovif ecuav emm ug vjiti vjopht.... ov ot tu gap vu jewi vjiti "apataem" wedevoupt. XEZ civvis vjep tovvoph xemloph vjsuahj vji piyv vuasotv vseq! Ov ot tu duum vu jewi vjiti iyqisoipdit x/ vji loft vuu. Xjev hsiev ninusoit gus vjin Vjot ot xjev mowoph ot emm ecuav.

 

[SteveO]

Fsifhoph aq vjiti umf qutvt esi gap. Nz xogi epf O xomm ci segvoph fuxp vji sowis xovj Cou op e duaqmi ug nupvjt. Vji vsoq ipft xovj e joli uav ug vji depzup ev Csohjv Ephim. Vjev ot e muv ug joli ev vji ipf ug e segvoph vsoq.