Fed Up With Your Country? Where Is Left to Go?

[Ryan Lou]

I was born in China. I was very lucky.

 

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[Timmy C]

我出生在中国。我很幸运。

Translation:

''我出生在中国。我很幸运。'' = I was born in China. I'm very lucky.


Sorry to hear that. That sounds like a nightmare.

 

[Ryan Lou]

Translation:

''我出生在中国。我很幸运。'' = I was born in China. I'm very lucky.


Sorry to hear that. That sounds like a nightmare.

Why is that ?

 

[Timmy C]

Why is that ?

Normally I would mock you for your ignorance as china is a communist shit hole, but it appears I am in one aswell.

 

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[Timmy C]

This is pretty shocking and shows just how INCOMPETENT our leaders are.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1414881543429009416

View: https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1414881543429009416


Please, fact check me, fact check this.

Link to Ireland government website below:

COVID-19 Deaths and Cases, Series 30 - CSO - Central Statistics Office

www.cso.ie

Package leaflet for a vaccine:

https://static.janssen-emea.com/sites/default/files/EMEA/PIL/EMEA-PL-0114.pdf?tracked

Page 4 of 7 is where information on risk/reward is found for the vaccine compared to that of getting covid on the government website which is represented in the video I attached.

I will be verifying the risk/reward of other vaccines as it relates to deaths from covid, but please, I urge everyone to read it for your own good. Also, to fact check me.

Wanted to put this here as a placeholder while I verify other vaccine information.

HILARIOUS that Twitter marks this as False information!

 

[MitchC]

I was just talking to a freelancer who lives in Serbia. He started telling me to come and visit his country. I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread as being great but I’d like to post what he said and also my description of Australia to him as it’s the topic of this thread.

Serbia:
They had lockdowns at the start but now have low case numbers, and no rules.
Vaccine is optional and no restrictions if you don’t take it. They paid people who got it though and now have 55% vaxinated in the capitol.
Low crime rate, cheap cost of living, mixture of ancient and modern, with lots of new developments.
Can drink in the street no open container rules etc.
They tried to do a lockdown again but people were angry and protested on the street so they stopped it. “That’s the good thing about having a corrupt government they can’t force things on you because they are scared”.

my description to him of Australia:
You can google Australia but basically they did lockdowns until we had 0 cases which in 1 state was like 8 months. And then now we have no vaccines available, maybe 8% of the population is vaxinated.

You can’t leave the country and almost 2 years on there’s still Australians stuck overseas.

And there’s no quarantine facilities so they quarantine in hotels when they come in and the virus keep escaping so we keep having more lockdowns. We have had lockdowns and rules in entire states for just a couple of cases in 1 city.

Actually there is one legit quarantine facility built but the prime minister won’t approve it for being used but he approves of using hotels.

And the rules are all so random they don’t make sense.

Big businesses can do whatever they want like put 30k people in a sports stadium but they are destroying all the small ones with rules and lockdowns for no reason.

Rich people can come and go as they please even if they aren’t Australian.



Man just writing all that in one place makes you see just how retarded this country is. If they have a F*ck about getting rid of covid they would have quarantine facilities built and vaccines available

 

[GlobalWealth]

Yes, ivermectin is one of the therapeutics I was referring to in my last post. Here is the situation with ivermectin.

there have been several studies such as the one you referenced with the health care workers, that have shown high effectiveness to a very high statistical probability. There are many different studies that have also shown effectiveness.

There are also some studies where ivermectin was not effective, but like all things you have to look at the details. These studies that did not show therapeutic effect were in very sick like ICU patients. Here’s the thing though, with viruses, once the cat is completely out of the bag antivirals typically are not effective. We know this from past experience with drugs like tamiflu for flu.

The CDC and people that push against ivermectin say we need a large randomized controlled trial as if that is the only acceptable evidence in medicine.

There has been a large meta-analysis of the existing studies which is the next step typically above a randomized controlled study. If your not familiar, a meta analysis looks at a large number of studies and basically takes all the data to see what the effect is across all the studies.

This meta analysis showed ivermectin to be highly effective for prevention (prophylaxis) as well as early treatment.

But here is the problem with the medical authorities insisting on large scale randomized controlled trials as the only standard they will accept, they are extremely expensive. Think like $20 million, but is the CDC putting up funding to look into this drug….nope. Is private industry ponying up to pay for such a study…nope.

Historically ivermectin has been an very safe drug, used in Africa long term as prevention of river blindness. In fact many of you are probably familiar with Ivermectin if you are dog owners (don’t take your dogs medication, that’s not what I’m saying). You know that heart worm drug you give your dog, it’s typically Ivermectin.

So we have a drug that has been widely used, safe as far as drugs are safe, that shows a high degree of effectiveness in the meta analysis and other studies out there. But we can’t give it for Covid because it’s unproven and therefore risky.

Lets shift gears for a second, what about the other therapeutics like Remdesivir? It was rushed into the war against Covid, with no long term safety data, and limited studies on the effectiveness of Covid. But it’s something like $1000 a dose (I don’t know the exact amount I just know it’s expensive). Yet this was recommended by the CDC in their treatment protocols.

What about the vaccine, we skipped animal studies, for instance there was no study of reproductive toxicity. There were then limited trials of use in humans, which has caused a huge number of short term side effects, and we have zero long term data. On top of this we are not even rigorously tracking the side effects and deaths.

In a typical emergency use authorization there is rigorous data collection. They follow and follow up patients to see what happens. Ask anyone around you who has gotten the vaccine, how many times after the shot have the received follow up calls or contact about their problems. There are two systems vsafe and Vaers which are voluntary reporting databases. There is a lot of noise and any side effect signal you see is a massive under estimation because they are voluntary reporting.

Yet we are told that this vaccine is the safest most studied vaccine in history. That is an obvious lie, we don’t know what the long term safety is because there is no data since it’s so new, and it’s not being as rigorously studied like it should be.

Now what about general safety of vaccines? Vaccines can be some of the more dangerous therapies we give. Think about a typical drug, it may damage an organ or do something bad while it’s in your system, but when you stop giving it the damage typically stops (although you may have to live your life with the consequences of that damage for life).

A vaccine in comparison actually changes your biology, it causes your immune system to respond in a different way than it did before, typically forever. So once vaxinated there is no way to remove and revert to the unvaxinated state.

So compare if you will the standard required for Ivermectin and other cheaper drugs compared to new drugs and vaccines. They are light years different. The “safety”, ivermectin is about as safe as any drug and we have massive experience in billions of doses and decades of experience. Vaccines, new fancy therapeutics, long term safety unknowable because long term safety is determined by time which you can’t speed up.

To me what I believe is happening is we are entering into a world of the Medical Industrial Complex. This is a world where there is coordination and protection by the very agencies that are suppose to regulate the pharmaceutical companies to help accelerate and push their drugs. I have heard, but have not verified, that Fauci has a financial interest in the mRNA technology…take that as a rumor unless you dig out the actual details.

There is one other change I am seeing, that scares the hell out of me. I’ve been referring to it as medical communism. In the past we believed in individualized care. The doctor and the patient discuss that patient and what is right or appropriate for them, all the context of what is right for the patient.


Now we are talking about every human on earth being vaxinated, the rational is that you could in theory harm someone else if they get sick, so your health and well being should be secondary. If you don’t take it you will be punished and unable to participate in society.

I am not anti vaccine, in fact I recommended my parents get it because they are older and therefore at significant risk. For my children in their early twenties I have encouraged them to wait, because their risk is minimal from Covid and risk especially long term from the vaccine unknown. That is how medicine is suppose to be practiced, individual by individual.

That is a truly horrifying change of perspective, in that view we are just cogs as long as the machine is better we are disposable.

In general I dig a lot. I don’t trust the words of experts, I dig into the studies and data and use that to decide if I agree or disagree with the opinion and recommendations of any one person.

Thank you for your always insightful and detailed responses. I always love reading your replies because I know they are well thought out. Thanks for being in my sphere.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

Australia.

Yikes. Sorry mate.

I have several friends there as well and get regular "boots on the ground" updates.

Australia looks like a real live Black Mirror episode right now (and much of the rest of the world in many ways).

 

[husnatty]

Welcome to Tanzania if you are tired of your country

 

[GPM]

My parents wanted me to get ivermectin for them as it's impossible to get in Canada without a prescription, which is impossible to get because "what do you need that for, it is risky".

I walked into a pharmacy in Mexico and got them and their friends a crap ton of it and flew it home. Easy peasy.

In Canada two days ago on Sunday at pharmacy here (I had to get my 3rd effing covid test as part of the requirements for coming back), there was an older man who said that his eye medication had expired a while back and he had so much pain that he was wondering if they could help him with something. Rather than helping him they said "go see your doctor". He said it is Sunday and that his doctor was closed. They told him too bad, if the pain is as bad as he says it is then go to the hospital.

That is what this country has become. Even with the exact medication that you need to make you better, you can't even get more of it.

I think we need more government and more rules and control! That will make everything better!!! We can regulate ourselves out of these issues /s

 

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[GPM]

Welcome to Tanzania if you are tired of your country

I was there with @biophase and they dropped a few of us off at a local market to check it out. The driver couldn't stay I guess because of parking reasons and drove around the block or something.

By the time we found the driver again 20 minutes later we had a literal crowd surrounding us and all talking who knows what at us and it was quite frightening as there were 30-40 of them and 5 or so of us. I'm guessing it was because we were all white or Asian and had a fair haired blonde girl with us. Ahh good times.

 

[mr4ffe]

For anybody considering moving purely for business reasons, you can get an e-residency in Estonia, or a Bitcoin-sponsored tax-exempt residency in El Salvador (if you have the money; the latter is hardly cheap).

 

[GPM]

This is pretty shocking and shows just how INCOMPETENT our leaders are.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1414881543429009416

View: https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1414881543429009416


Please, fact check me, fact check this.

Link to Ireland government website below:

COVID-19 Deaths and Cases, Series 30 - CSO - Central Statistics Office

www.cso.ie

Package leaflet for a vaccine:

https://static.janssen-emea.com/sites/default/files/EMEA/PIL/EMEA-PL-0114.pdf?tracked

Page 4 of 7 is where information on risk/reward is found for the vaccine compared to that of getting covid on the government website which is represented in the video I attached.

I will be verifying the risk/reward of other vaccines as it relates to deaths from covid, but please, I urge everyone to read it for your own good. Also, to fact check me.

Wanted to put this here as a placeholder while I verify other vaccine information.

HILARIOUS that Twitter marks this as False information!

I tried to copy that tweet and share it with people, it won't let me share the link lol. It violates their policy or something

 

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[mr4ffe]

Welcome to Tanzania if you are tired of your country

Actually been considering moving to the East African Federation, though probably somewhere in Northern Uganda, as I have relatives there. How are the laws concerning privacy, liberty, and entrepreneurship in Tanzania? Do you believe in a united East Africa?

 

[GIlman]

A friend sent this pdf to me yesterday. It is a lawsuit of a physician group against the CDC. The summary of facts is a very comprehensive well written summary of evidence and what is going on with Covid. Most of what they talk about I have independently discovered myself from extensive reading and research, but they do a much better job of summarizing it that I can.

If you want to understand what’s really going on with Covid and treatment read this. You will have a totally different perspective about Covid and be better informed than the extreme majority of people.

 

[husnatty]

I was there with @biophase and they dropped a few of us off at a local market to check it out. The driver couldn't stay I guess because of parking reasons and drove around the block or something.

By the time we found the driver again 20 minutes later we had a literal crowd surrounding us and all talking who knows what at us and it was quite frightening as there were 30-40 of them and 5 or so of us. I'm guessing it was because we were all white or Asian and had a fair haired blonde girl with us. Ahh good times.

They were suprised. Which market was that?

 

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[husnatty]

Actually been considering moving to the East African Federation, though probably somewhere in Northern Uganda, as I have relatives there. How are the laws concerning privacy, liberty, and entrepreneurship in Tanzania? Do you believe in a united East Africa?

You can start life in Tanzania and get friends who will be like relatives. Government is providing conducive environment for people to do business all needed is complying with laws and follow all required procedures.

 

[Deleted85763]

I was just talking to a freelancer who lives in Serbia. He started telling me to come and visit his country. I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread as being great but I’d like to post what he said and also my description of Australia to him as it’s the topic of this thread.

Serbia:
They had lockdowns at the start but now have low case numbers, and no rules.
Vaccine is optional and no restrictions if you don’t take it. They paid people who got it though and now have 55% vaxinated in the capitol.
Low crime rate, cheap cost of living, mixture of ancient and modern, with lots of new developments.
Can drink in the street no open container rules etc.
They tried to do a lockdown again but people were angry and protested on the street so they stopped it. “That’s the good thing about having a corrupt government they can’t force things on you because they are scared”.

my description to him of Australia:
You can google Australia but basically they did lockdowns until we had 0 cases which in 1 state was like 8 months. And then now we have no vaccines available, maybe 8% of the population is vaxinated.

You can’t leave the country and almost 2 years on there’s still Australians stuck overseas.

And there’s no quarantine facilities so they quarantine in hotels when they come in and the virus keep escaping so we keep having more lockdowns. We have had lockdowns and rules in entire states for just a couple of cases in 1 city.

Actually there is one legit quarantine facility built but the prime minister won’t approve it for being used but he approves of using hotels.

And the rules are all so random they don’t make sense.

Big businesses can do whatever they want like put 30k people in a sports stadium but they are destroying all the small ones with rules and lockdowns for no reason.

Rich people can come and go as they please even if they aren’t Australian.



Man just writing all that in one place makes you see just how retarded this country is. If they have a f*ck about getting rid of covid they would have quarantine facilities built and vaccines available

"Can drink in the street no open container rules etc."

Is that really something that would make you want to move to another county?

 

[SteveO]

I was there with @biophase and they dropped a few of us off at a local market to check it out. The driver couldn't stay I guess because of parking reasons and drove around the block or something.

By the time we found the driver again 20 minutes later we had a literal crowd surrounding us and all talking who knows what at us and it was quite frightening as there were 30-40 of them and 5 or so of us. I'm guessing it was because we were all white or Asian and had a fair haired blonde girl with us. Ahh good times.

It was my fault. I took a picture of a vendor that was holding a chicken up for sale. Afterwards, I handed him a dollar. The swarm was instant, aggressive and scary... You are right. It was real hard to get back to the van.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

For anybody considering moving purely for business reasons, you can get an e-residency in Estonia, or a Bitcoin-sponsored tax-exempt residency in El Salvador (if you have the money; the latter is hardly cheap).

As one of the first few Estonian e-residents and someone who owned and ran an Estonian company, I can say the e-residency is one of the best marketed pieces of bureaucratic bullshit I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

I would not recommend an Estonian company to 99% of my clients. It is a rare and niche case where it make sense and there are almost always better solutions.

Estonia itself is a great country and a nice place to live (I lived there several years ago and even had an apartment there until last year), but that e-residency is a joke.

 

[GPM]

"Can drink in the street no open container rules etc."

Is that really something that would make you want to move to another county?

100% yes. A country that doesn't hand out tickets and police BS laws like that probably has a hundred other similar examples.

A country that specifically makes a point against something like this, and has manpower dedicated to ticketing and stopping it will have so many other similar examples. The less "rules for the sake of rules" the better off everyone is

 

[biophase]

They were suprised. Which market was that?

We were in Arusha. The main meat market in the center of town.

 

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[Timmy C]

A friend sent this pdf to me yesterday. It is a lawsuit of a physician group against the CDC. The summary of facts is a very comprehensive well written summary of evidence and what is going on with Covid. Most of what they talk about I have independently discovered myself from extensive reading and research, but they do a much better job of summarizing it that I can.

If you want to understand what’s really going on with Covid and treatment read this. You will have a totally different perspective about Covid and be better informed than the extreme majority of people.

Even knowing this.
What can we do doc?
They are going to make it mandatory in every country.

It's already over.

 

[Deleted85763]

100% yes. A country that doesn't hand out tickets and police BS laws like that probably has a hundred other similar examples.

A country that specifically makes a point against something like this, and has manpower dedicated to ticketing and stopping it will have so many other similar examples. The less "rules for the sake of rules" the better off everyone is

There are countries in western Europe that don't have open container laws, like Sweden, but have many other laws that are not friendly towards those who want a free-market business friendly environment. For example, they may restrict non-citizens doing business in the country that involves selling to their domestic market. Or you may have to comply with complex laws dealing with privacy of customers.

I think it should be a matter of personal responsibility not to walk around in public with alcohol. Alcohol is probably the cause of 50% or more of the misery in the world.

 

[Timmy C]

Half my nation locked down, no difference in attitudes between the major parties, a pissweak PM, a compliant MSM, a tyrannical state premier, police forces acting like para-military & an apathetic and pissweak population not willing to fight it.

Do you see a way out of this mess?

I don't.

 

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[MitchC]

Half my nation locked down, no difference in attitudes between the major parties, a pissweak PM, a compliant MSM, a tyrannical state premier, police forces acting like para-military & an apathetic and pissweak population not willing to fight it.

Do you see a way out of this mess?

I don't.

I’m sure people have thought of this but is it possible to fly to New Zealand and leave from there?

 

[Timmy C]

I’m sure people have thought of this but is it possible to fly to New Zealand and leave from there?

From my quick research, it seems possible to fly from Australia to New Zealand and then from NZ to Mexico.
Apparently, they speak Spanish in Mexico?

 

[Timmy C]

Permanent residence application for mexico here, relevant to Australians:

https://embamex.sre.gob.mx/australia/images/pdf/solicitudvisaingles.pdf

Printing mine off now.

 

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[MitchC]

From my quick research, it seems possible to fly from Australia to New Zealand and then from NZ to Mexico.
Apparently, they speak Spanish in Mexico?

Sounds like the answer to your prayers then.
What can they do to fix Australia? There’s about 5 very simple solutions that would work but they aren’t doing any of them so it’s not what can they do it’s what will they do and the answer is nothing.

I’m a New Zealand citizen so I’ve always known I can escape via nz, I just need to convince my partner and find somewhere to go which I guess is what this thread is for.

 

[MitchC]

Permanent residence application for mexico here, relevant to Australians:

https://embamex.sre.gob.mx/australia/images/pdf/solicitudvisaingles.pdf

Printing mine off now.

Make a progress thread please