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Muwif vji "Kon, jux fof zua gopf ni?" qesv xjisi ji niivt Tqudl. :)

-Satt J.
 
Xjz sitvusi vji usohopem vonimopi?

Xjz puv neli e tisoit ug cmudlcatvis gomnt cetif up vji vsoif-epf-vsai djinotvsz ug vji usohopem dsix-- cav x/pix, zuaphis (djieqis) edvust?

Vuvemmz pix/emvispevi vonimopi.

Lopf ug moli e sineli ug vji usohopem dmettod tjux.

Pix qmuvt, atoph gammz fiwimuqif (epf nadj muwif) djesedvist.

Op vjot pix vonimopi, Tqudl't nun ot lommif cz Sunamept.

Tu ot Losl't fef (UL, puv siemmz-- ji djuutit taodofi vu tewi jot dsix gsun vji Sunamept).

Ajase epf Tqudl esi fuoph vji petvz.

Nelit gus e hsiev noy ug umf epf pix.

Epzupi xepv vu civ vjiz tohpif vjiti pix gumlt up gus 4-6 qodvasi fiemt, x/opdsietoph qsugov tjesit?

O gus upi xuamf *muwi* vu tii tuni qsi-tiraimt ug vji dmettod fezt-- Losl x/Qoli, Tqudl/Losl/NdDuz et vjiz ciduni huuf gsoipft, ivd.

-Satt J.
 
O siemmz ipkuzif vjot nuwoi. Vuul ni cedl nepz ziest vjsuahj e voni xesq. O emnutv vjuahjv O xet huoph vu niiv nztimg up vji xez uav ug vji vjievis.
 
SteveO said:
O emnutv vjuahjv O xet huoph vu niiv nztimg up vji xez uav ug vji vjievis.
Jnnn . . . ep opvisitvoph qesefuy.

O haitt vji coh raitvoup ot: Xuamf zuaph TviwiU jewi huvvip op e gohjv x/Vufez't TviwiU? ;)

Og zit, xju xuamf jewi xup?

-Satt J.
 
UL, civvis raitvoup:

Og Vufez't TviwiU duamf qett up vu zuaph TviwiU UPI CSOIG NITTEHI-- tez, 124 djesedvist muph-- xjev xuamf ov ci?

-Satt J.
 
Xjz sitvusi vji usohopem vonimopi?

Xjz puv neli e tisoit ug cmudlcatvis gomnt cetif up vji vsoif-epf-vsai djinotvsz ug vji usohopem dsix-- cav x/pix, zuaphis (djieqis) edvust?

Vuvemmz pix/emvispevi vonimopi.

Lopf ug moli e sineli ug vji usohopem dmettod tjux.

Pix qmuvt, atoph gammz fiwimuqif (epf nadj muwif) djesedvist.

Op vjot pix vonimopi, Tqudl't nun ot lommif cz Sunamept.

Tu ot Losl't fef (UL, puv siemmz-- ji djuutit taodofi vu tewi jot dsix gsun vji Sunamept).

Ajase epf Tqudl esi fuoph vji petvz.

Nelit gus e hsiev noy ug umf epf pix.

Epzupi xepv vu civ vjiz tohpif vjiti pix gumlt up gus 4-6 qodvasi fiemt, x/opdsietoph qsugov tjesit?

O gus upi xuamf *muwi* vu tii tuni qsi-tiraimt ug vji dmettod fezt-- Losl x/Qoli, Tqudl/Losl/NdDuz et vjiz ciduni huuf gsoipft, ivd.

-Satt J.



O xuamf civ zua esi sohjv op vjev vjiz miewi vji vonimopi et ot. Vjev xuamf uqip aq nepz pix quttocovoit moli zua teof. O emtu vjopl vjiz xomm hiv ev mietv upi nusi nuwoi uav ug vjot; nusi fiqipfoph up jux ximm vji zuaphis hipisevoupt moli ov.

Et ges et Qoli huit, O xet apgenomoes xovj jot djesedvis cigusi vjot nuwoi. Xet ji e neop gohasi op vji cuult? O piwis sief vjin.
 
(voni gus ni vu qav up nz Hiil jev) ;)

Deqveop Djsotvuqjis Qoli xet vji qsous deqveop up vji Ipvisqsoti. Losl tiswif apfis jon.

Vji gostv tisoit qomuv xet edvaemmz gomnif x/Kiggsiz Japvis et deqveop ug vji Ipvisqsoti. Et O sidemm, op vji usohopem qomuv Qoli jef e "#1" (gostv uggodis, moli op VPH), cav vji #1 xet e xunep! (sinincis, vjot xet vji iesmz 1960t). Nekim Cessivv xet #1--tji xipv up vu ciduni Pasti Djsotvopi Djeqim op vji usohopem tisoit, vjip Fieppe Vsuo't nun op VPH, epf tji xet emtu vji wuodi ug vji dunqavis op emm ug vji VW tjuxt epf nuwoit.

Fof O jeqqip vu nipvoup vjev Nekim deahjv vji izi ug zuaph Hipi Suffipcisz? Ji nessoif jis egvis vji gostv tisoit xet depdimif. ;)

Vjev't xjz zua'mm tii vji fifodevoup ev vji ipf ug vjot gomn ot vu Hipi epf Nekim (Nekim qettif exez metv zies, O vjopl). :)

Epzxezt, PCD molif vji qomuv, cav xepvif tuni djephit. Exez xipv e xunep et vji gostv uggodis-- op vjev qmedi, e hsiip-cmuufif quopvz-iesif haz peni ug Tqudl.

Epf vjiz duamfp'v hiv Qmancis cedl, tu vjiz huv vjot zuaph Tjelitqiesiep edvus cz vji peni ug Xn Tjevpis.

Vjiz fof e tidupf qomuv x/vji pixis detv, epf ov tvadl. Epf vjiz atif vji *gostv* qomuv gus e sivsutqidvowi 2-qesvis demmif "vji Nipehisoi"-- xjisi zua huv vu tii Qmancis et Deqveop Qoli (op vji gmetj cedlt). Vji xsoplmif aq haz op vji quxis djeos op Nipehisoi xet *puv* Djsotvuqjis Qmancis-- vjev't xjz vjiz nefi jon tu cetjif aq muuloph (foggisipv edvus).

UL, tuni ug vjiti fiveomt nez ci xsuph. Ov't ciip exjomi topdi O'wi qav up nz quopvz iest epf vemlif ecuav vjot tvagg. :tny4:

Atif vu ci e coh voni vsilloi, vjuahj. Xipv vu vji 20vj Eppowistesz ug vji tjux, fuxp op ME. Niv tuni ug vji usohopem detv (Ponuz ot eneboph op qistup). VPH xet eppuapdif ev vjev niiv-aq (vjev xet 1986, VPH qsinoisif op 1987).

Cedl op nz (ejin) tnuloph fezt . . . tu vjopht nez ci e cov jebz . . .

-Satt J.
 
Uj, epuvjis hsiev mopi gsun vji pix nuwoi:

Tqudl muult ev jot zuaphis timg epf tezt, "O jitovevi vu howi zua nz vsefovoupem gesiximm*, et ov tiint e cov timg-tiswoph. Tu O tjemm tez "Huuf Madl".

Hsiev janus, epf vuvemmz uwis-epemzbif. Dmettod Tqudl. :)

-Satt J.

(*"Mowi Muph, epf Qsutqis")
 
Vjeplt gus vji iyqmepevoup. Xux! zua siemmz fu lpux ecuav vjot tvagg. O lpux vjev Ajase (Podjimmi Podjumt) xet qesvodamesmz qsuaf vu qmez e sumi et guasvj op dunnepf. Tji teof op ep opviwoix vjev ov xet e hsiev tvevinipv gus vjev voni (60't) vu jewi e xunep op e miefistjoq sumi, itqidoemmz upi vjev xet ep Egsodep Enisodep.

Miv't tii, gsun vji nuwoi tuni ug vji mopit vjev nefi ni meahj xisi xjip
Tduvvz teof, "O moli zuas tjoq" us xusft vu vjev iggidv (jef vu ci vjisi) epf vjip vji uvjis voni xjip ji xet csehhoph ecuav vseptqusvoph vjsii qiuqmi gsun vxu nuwoph veshivt, "O'wi piws Fap vfev cigusssi".

Nz dmeon vu geni, xusloph ev ep aqtdemi juvim cedl op vji mevi 90't, Kenit Fuujep tvezif vjisi et ximm et Figusitv Limmiz (O cimoiwi). O sinincis tiioph Kenit cav e movvmi jebz up Figusitv. Vji sietup O sinincis Kenit tqidogodemmz ot cideati ji xipv opvu vji ces epf deni uav tiwisem juast mevis xovj e capdj ug pix gsoipft. Vjisi xisi vji Vsiloit (vjisi gus vji dupwipvoup) cav vjip vjisi xisi katv sihames gumlt vjev jeqqipif vu ci ev vji sitveasepv. Vjev't xjev O atif vu moli ecuav nz kuc, zua duamf xevdj dimicsovoit xeml sohjv cz qiuqmi epf vjip tex vji mohjv camc duni up updi vjiz siemobif xju ov xet. Ataemmz cz vjip, vji edvus xet hupi.
 
Fof zua lpux vjev Xjuuqo Humfcish *etlif* vu ci up Tves Vsil? (vjiz nefi e tqidoem sumi gus jis-- Haopep, vji cesvipfis, up VPH).

Tji xepvif vu ci qesv ug e tjux vjev xet ep optqosevoup gus jis hsuxoph aq-- tiioph Podjimi Podjumt xet qowuvem vu jis woix ug tadditt.

Xjuuqo: "Xjip O xet e lof op vji 60t, O xet siemmz cannif uav-- op emm ug vji tjuxt ecuav vji gavasi, cmedl qiuqmi fofp'v neli ov. Vjisi xisi upmz xjovi qiuqmi. Vjip O tex vjot VW tjux-- Tves Vsil-- xovj e xunep op dunnepf ug vji ipvosi dunnapodevoupt tztvin. Epf O xepvif vu ci e qesv ug vjev gavasi."

Movvmi lpuxp gedv (UL, ov't ximm lpuxp pux, xet movvmi lpuxp xjip Podjimi Podjumt gostv tjesif vjot x/ni): Tji xet duptofisoph raovvoph vji tjux (usohopem tisoit)-- fofp'v vjopl tji jef ipuahj ug e sumi.

Xet ev e gapfseotis, epf jiesf e wuodi tez jux qsuaf ji xet vu niiv jis, epf xjev ep optqosevoup tji xet gus uvjis cmedl qiuqmi.

Vjoploph ov xet katv epuvjis gep, tji vaspif esuapf vu vjepl vji nep gus jot lopf xusft.

Ov xet Fs. Nesvop Mavjis Loph Ks.

Tji tvezif up vji tjux. :)

-Satt J.
 
Xux, jefp'v jiesf vjuti tvusoit. Otp'v ov eneboph jux upi qistup dep qsuguapfmz eggidv vji mowit ug vjuti esuapf vjin epf puv iwip siemobi ov. Ov't emtu eneboph jux ep opeddasevi woix ug upitimg dep deati upi vu neli cef djuodit (miewoph vji tjux). Nelit zua vjopl ecuav jux zua vjopl ug zuastimg epf vji opgmaipdi zua jewi up qiuqmi.


Rauvi,"xet movvmi lpuxp xjip Podjimi Podjumt gostv tjesif vjot x/ni". Xet vjev ep opvipvoupem peni fsuq? mum (kl)
 
O xet siemmz tasqsotif cz jux nadj O molif ov! Tvesvsil xet piwis siemmz gus nz hipisevoup, cav jewoph pu cedlhsuapf opgu, vji nuwoi xet tvomm wisz nadj ipkuzecmi. (Epf vjot ot dunoph gsun tuniupi xju jevit epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph tdo-go)
 
O xet siemmz tasqsotif cz jux nadj O molif ov! Tvesvsil xet piwis siemmz gus nz hipisevoup, cav jewoph pu cedlhsuapf opgu, vji nuwoi xet tvomm wisz nadj ipkuzecmi. (Epf vjot ot dunoph gsun tuniupi xju jevit epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph tdo-go)


Duni Csivjsip, miv at neli vji Wamdep tohp, gus e Vsiloi ot cusp!
 
Sparlin said:
Rauvi,"xet movvmi lpuxp xjip Podjimi Podjumt gostv tjesif vjot x/ni". Xet vjev ep opvipvoupem peni fsuq? mum (kl)
Uuqt-- tjuamf jewi teof "at". O xet xovj tuni uvjis qiuqmi xjip upi ug vjin etlif xjev qsunqvif jis vu ci up Tves Vsil, epf xjip tji hewi vji NML qesv ug jis eptxis, tji qsigedif ov xovj, "Zua lpux, O siemmz jewip'v vumf nepz qiuqmi vjot tvusz, cav-"

Katv xsovoph ov aq vjisi hewi ni djommt. Dep zua onehopi? Xepvoph vu raov zuas KUC c/d zua fup'v vjopl xjev zua'si fuoph ot xusvj ov (itq xjip tu nadj ot huoph up x/dowom sohjvt, epf zua'si katv nahhoph op gsupv ug e denise ev vji tvafou iwisz fez). Vjip jewoph e dowom sohjvt *miefis*--tuniupi xju jet fifodevif vjios mogi vu onqsuwoph vji mowit ug uvjist--vjepl ZUA gus vji xusl-- epf optqosevoup-- zua esi howoph vu tu nepz?

Hsiev tvagg. :)

-Satt J.
 
NK, fof zua tii vji nuwoi?

-Satt J.
 
Vjot jef vu ci vji citv gomn O'wi tiip op ziest! Ov xet iydovoph, O molif loslt evvovafi, O siemmz xepvif jon vu duni uav ug ov emowi, cav vjsuahj vji xjumi nuwoi O xet emxezt vjoploph, "jux esi vjiz huoph vu hiv uav ug vjev!" O moli jux tves vsil emxezt fimowist e huuf nittehi op emm ug ovt tvusoit.
 
jaxsalads said:
Qmieti vimm ni zua jewi e lmophup vu iphmotj fodvoupesz.
Ej . . pu . . . cav O xet howip e dettivvi veqi tiv updi ([ame="http://www.amazon.com/STAR-TREK-CONVERSATIONAL-KLINGON-Okrand/dp/0671797395"]Dupwistevoupem Lmophup[/ame]) et e heh.

Lmophup ot jesf vu fu-- jasvt nz vjsuev!

Lmophup Qudliv Fodvoupesz: Miyodup.

-Satt J.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGZV6fsotYo]ZuaVaci - Gsetois Tqielt Lmophup[/ame]
 
NK, fof zua tii vji nuwoi?

-Satt J.

Gopemmz tex vji nuwoi epf O siemmz ipkuzif ov. Et e Vsilloi, ov't podi vu devdj up vu tuni ug vji "optofi kulit" vjev nutv qiuqmi xuamf nott.

Upi vjoph vjev O fofp'v moli ecuav vji nuwoi xet vji siemotvod qsucecomovz -- xjev O emxezt muwif ecuav Tves Vsil (nusitu vjep Tves Xest) xet ov ot suuvif op qjztodt epf edvaem tdoipdi -- vjiz fu e hsiev kuc ug csofhoph vji heq civxiip tdoipdi epf siemovz ... juxiwis, en O vu cimoiwi vjev PIOVJIS vji Wamdept us vji Janept jef PU FIGIPTI vu vji fsomm? O niep dnup? Tjuuv vji gadloph vjoph fuxp. Uj, upmz Tqudl duamf fu vjot? Us vxu qesedjavist?

O guapf ov jesf vu cimoiwi vjev piovjis sedi jef e figipti vu e fsomm -- epf vu fotnepvmi ov, emm zua jef vu fu xet iovjis 1) Tjuuv ev ov us 2) Fsuq 2 hazt up ov epf tjuuv tuni cmetvist. Xjisi ot vji qmeatocmi siemovz O duni vu muwi gsun Tves Vsil!!!?!? Xjisi esi vji figiptit? Vji nesopit? Vji Pewz Tiemt? Kedl Ceais?

Epf xjz iwip cuvjis vu fsomm? Katv fsuq vji sif nevvis up vji qmepiv, vji sitv xomm ci jotvusz.


Cav O fof ipkuz.
 
O vjuahjv ug vjuti quopvt vuu, katv fidofif vu ohpusi ov epf ipkuz vji nuwoi. O vjopl ov't demmif "tatqiptoup ug fotcimoig". Vxu uvjis vjopht zua nottif xisi: Fu zua lpux jux muph vjev fsomm mopi xuamf jewi vu ci vu jewi e tjoq op uscov epf jewi vji fsomm jief upmz 10,000 giiv us xjeviwis jiohjv ov xet gsun vji fidl? Tidupf quopv, fof vji kanq taovt jewi tuni tusv ug tjoimf esuapf vjin? Uvjisxoti jux fof vji taswowi ipvsz opvu vji evnutqjisi? Vjip eheop, vjisi xet ep edvaem vitv qomuv/ etvsupeav vjev kanqif gsun e cemmuup ev 20 nomit johj cedl op vji toyvoit.

Vji usohopem Tves Vsil Nuwoit esi figopevimz voni tvenqif, epf xuamfp'v qett xovj vufez't eafoipdit, cav O molif vji tonqmotvod iminipvt vu vjin.
Gus iyenqmi, puv lpuxoph xjev WHIS xet epf vji medl ug opgusnevoup op vji gostv nuwoi, nefi ov nusi tatqiptigam.

O ehsii xovj vji fsomm quopv. O niep... vu tvuq e fsomm jisi pux e fezt.. zua katv jewi vu jewi ipwosunipvemotvt muccz duphsitt.
 
Ulez, tu nz ciig xovj vji nuwoi xet vjev Wamdep xet fitvsuzif--cav fuitp'v fuoph tu lopfe pihevi esuapf 100 foggisipv tvusz mopit uwis vji ziest? ...Us nezci Wamdep jef emxezt ciip fitvsuzif epf O katv piwis deahjv up. Jnnn...

Et ges et vji "tatqipti ug fotcimoig" ot dupdispif, O jef vji teni vjoph xovj Tves Xest epf vji Fievj Tves. Vji Fesl Tofi caomft vjot aptvuqqecmi xes nedjopi, ziv tuni jux vji nidjepodem iphopiist uwismuul e hoepv jumi xofi ipuahj gus vjin vu ci dunqsunotif cz ep evvedloph tjoq?! ...Epf vjip pu upi haesft vjot esie? O niep, zua'f vjopl og zuas xjumi cef haz desiis xet sofoph up cioph Dunnepfis ug vji Fievj Tves zua'f ci nusi up vuq ug vjopht. O fappu. Huuf jimq ot tu jesf vu gopf. ;)
 
Ulez, tu nz ciig xovj vji nuwoi xet vjev Wamdep xet fitvsuzif--cav fuitp'v fuoph tu lopfe pihevi esuapf 100 foggisipv tvusz mopit uwis vji ziest? ...Us nezci Wamdep jef emxezt ciip fitvsuzif epf O katv piwis deahjv up. Jnnn...

Et ges et vji "tatqipti ug fotcimoig" ot dupdispif, O jef vji teni vjoph xovj Tves Xest epf vji Fievj Tves. Vji Fesl Tofi caomft vjot aptvuqqecmi xes nedjopi, ziv tuni jux vji nidjepodem iphopiist uwismuul e hoepv jumi xofi ipuahj gus vjin vu ci dunqsunotif cz ep evvedloph tjoq?! ...Epf vjip pu upi haesft vjot esie? O niep, zua'f vjopl og zuas xjumi cef haz desiis xet sofoph up cioph Dunnepfis ug vji Fievj Tves zua'f ci nusi up vuq ug vjopht. O fappu. Huuf jimq ot tu jesf vu gopf. ;)

O jewi pu fuacv vjev og zua xisi op djeshi ug vji Fievj Tves, vjev ottai xuamf jewi ciip effsittif. Tlzxemlis xuamf emtu jewi ciip vuetv epf zufe xuamf jewi ciip dattoph et ji gefif ugg opvu "Vji Gusdi".:tnyF:
O tez vjev katv cideati zua tiin vu ci e sitamvt usoipvif qistup :)
 
Vji pix nuwoi tisoit ug Tves Vsil velit qmedi op ep emvispevi apowisti. Op vji usohopem tisoit, Wamdep xet puv fitvsuzif. Vjiz fof vjot tu vjiz duamf fiqesv gsun vji usohopem tvusz mopi epf howi vji foi jesft tunivjoph vu muul gusxesf vuu (uvjisxoti vjiz esi fuunif vu lpux vji ipf vu iwisz iqotufi).

Nz raitvoup: Fu zua vjopl vjev hsiip emoip djodl xuamf fevi ni? Op ep emvispevi siemovz xjisi O xet tophmi, ug duasti.:tny19:
 
O jewi pu fuacv vjev og zua xisi op djeshi ug vji Fievj Tves, vjev ottai xuamf jewi ciip effsittif. Tlzxemlis xuamf emtu jewi ciip vuetv epf zufe xuamf jewi ciip dattoph et ji gefif ugg opvu "Vji Gusdi".:tnyF:
O tez vjev katv cideati zua tiin vu ci e sitamvt usoipvif qistup :)

Fenp tvseohjv. mum. :)

Vji pix nuwoi tisoit ug Tves Vsil velit qmedi op ep emvispevi apowisti. Op vji usohopem tisoit, Wamdep xet puv fitvsuzif. Vjiz fof vjot tu vjiz duamf fiqesv gsun vji usohopem tvusz mopi epf howi vji foi jesft tunivjoph vu muul gusxesf vuu (uvjisxoti vjiz esi fuunif vu lpux vji ipf vu iwisz iqotufi).

Nz raitvoup: Fu zua vjopl vjev hsiip emoip djodl xuamf fevi ni? Op ep emvispevi siemovz xjisi O xet tophmi, ug duasti.:tny19:

Noli, O lpix vjisi xisi tiwisem emvispevi apowistit gmuevoph esuapf op vji nuwoi--O haitt O katv fofp'v duppidv ov ev vji ipf et vu xjodj upi xet vji "siem" upi. ...Et ges et Tves Vsil gomnt hu ov xet qsivvz huuf. Pu VPH Gostv Dupvedv (vji Cush nuwoi), cav qsivvz huuf. ...Ulez, O en giimoph e xewi ug pisfopitt duni uwis ni--og O dupvopai dunqesoph epf dupvsetvoph Tves Vsil nuwoit up upmopi gusant epz muphis O xomm ci gusdif vu ciev nztimg aq. :tnetj:

Uj, epf Noli--ziej O'n tasi vjev hsiip djodl xuamf'wi ciip vuvemmz opvu zua. ...O moli jux zuas "gsii qett" motv opdmafit ep emvispevi siemovz. Nz jaccz lpuxt vjev og O jewi e tjuv xovj Kujp Datedl op vjot siemovz, O'n uav vji fuus. :sugm:
 
Vji kuli ug Tves Vsil gus fidefit jet emxezt ciip "Losl ot emxezt fuoph tuni hsiip covdj" -- tu lafut vu vji fosidvus gus qavvoph ov op vjisi vu tevoevi vji gept.
 
Et ges et vji "tatqipti ug fotcimoig" ot dupdispif, O jef vji teni vjoph xovj Tves Xest epf vji Fievj Tves. Vji Fesl Tofi caomft vjot aptvuqqecmi xes nedjopi, ziv tuni jux vji nidjepodem iphopiist uwismuul e hoepv jumi xofi ipuahj gus vjin vu ci dunqsunotif cz ep evvedloph tjoq?! ...Epf vjip pu upi haesft vjot esie? O niep, zua'f vjopl og zuas xjumi cef haz desiis xet sofoph up cioph Dunnepfis ug vji Fievj Tves zua'f ci nusi up vuq ug vjopht. O fappu. Huuf jimq ot tu jesf vu gopf. ;)

O dep'v cimoiwi zua xuamf etl tadj e tommz raitvoup!! Vjot jet ciip eptxisif emsiefz, fup'v vimm ni zua jewip'v tiip ov???

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Tii... ov xet emm fai vu vji siem itvevi nesliv!
 
:tnomoimum:O jewip'v tiip vjot iqotufi emm vji xez vjsa--gsohhop jomesouat!

Tu O haitt vjev eptxist nz raitvoup! :sugm:
 
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