A Warning for Young Guys: Money is NOT the way to solve your Girl Problems

[ChrisV]

In our modern society (capitalism + democracy) social status and wealth is interchangeable. I cannot think of someone who is famous but not at least much more than comfortably rich.

Charisma , confidence, “alpha” whatever that means..it helps marginally when you havent got the money. I have never seen someone rich but not confident and uncharismatic. All those mumbo jumbo about confidence and alpha is simply EMULATION THE BEHAVIOR OF SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE WHILE YOU HAVNT GOT THE MONEY. This is what it is And I am calling the bluff on guru who says material success doesn't matter but they turned around to teach you a course for 2 thousand dollar, and in then they teach you to mimic the behaviors and body language of successful people so that you gain a slight higher chances with girls by connecting with their conscious or unconscious desire for high status man. I am sure it does work to a certain extend but the reason why it works is because girls consciously or unconsciously want “successful men”.

But it is funny when people teach guys to fake the smoke without the fire, and meanwhile saying “fire is overrated”.

Eventually you need to have money (fire) to have quality girls. But before you got money you could to create your own smoke. By creating your own smoke i don't mean lying to girls to have big houses and fat bank accounts. Show them you are someone hardworking, ambitious, knowing what you want and trying hard to create your own future.

While I agree with certain points, I don't think status and wealth being interchangeable is necessarily true.... remember High School? The people who got the girls were the kids who were good at sports, not the rich kids. The Rich Kids did alright, but they weren't plowing through pussy like kids who were good at sports.

Income certainly is a factor in confidence, but it's not the entire thing. For instance, Russell Brand pulls more pussy than I've ever seen ever. But he has nowhere near the level of wealth as say Bill Gates or Warren Buffett.

But yea, I can't stand that PUA/Red Pill crap. All they do is try to teach guys to fake confidence.

 

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[Kevin88660]

While I agree with certain points, I don't think status and wealth being interchangeable is necessarily true.... remember High School? The people who got the girls were the kids who were good at sports, not the rich kids. The Rich Kids did alright, but they weren't plowing through pussy like kids who were good at sports.

Income certainly is a factor in confidence, but it's not the entire thing. For instance, Russell Brand pulls more pussy than I've ever seen ever. But he has nowhere near the level of wealth as say Bill Gates or Warren Buffett.

But yea, I can't stand that PUA/Red Pill crap. All they do is try to teach guys to fake confidence.

High school is about popularity. It is a good exception that it is not money oriented because kids live in an artificial environment that parents pay for everything.

In north America culture sports was a big things in school and hence athleticism gives someone popularity. And sportsmen tend to be bigger size and better looking than average guy. Good look is a plus that is nothing new.

But on today’s school where every kid is obsessed about iphone, facebook and instal-gram, I do not even think that sporty high school kids get that much popularity anymore. Today’s kids are awfully introverted. Maybe some early 20s guy can share some insights.

In the adult world the dating hierarchy is a reflection of the political economy we are living in. Political Economy determines how our resources are distributed. In most capitalistic economy it is about wealth and the attributes related to it. In the last century in communist countries like Soviet Union and China its the bureaucrats who hold the rubber stamp that girls are crazy about. In turbulent times it is about who have the most efficient war machines. When American GI march into Berlin in 1945, they can screw a girl by offering a few loaves of bread. It is also for the same reason that Genghis Khan fathered 8 percent of the present day population living in the area conquered by the Mongol empire.

 

[Kevin88660]

Russel Brand is already a famous comedian who is pretty much very wealthy. He lives in an era of capitalistic economy when entertainers have the highest status ever. If he lives in medieval Europe he would be a jester for a king, earning enough to make a living but hardly someone immensely popular.

And today imagine he is a struggling newbie in show business who tries to make his name heard, do you think for a second he will be pulling the same girls with just his good social skills and body language?

 

[ChrisV]

Russel Brand is already a famous comedian who is pretty much very wealthy. He lives in an era of capitalistic economy when entertainers have the highest status ever. If he lives in medieval Europe he would be a jester for a king, earning enough to make a living but hardly someone immensely popular.

And today imagine he is a struggling newbie in show business who tries to make his name heard, do you think for a second he will be pulling the same girls with just his good social skills and body language?

I'd love to see the woman who takes down the photos on her wall of Justin Timberlake and puts up photos up Carlos Slim and Larry Ellison.

Russell Brand literally a peasant in comparison to the truly wealthy... much wealthier guys who could never get women to react in the way they do in that video (Carl Ichan, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet.) I used Russell as an example because if I used Felipe (some poor kid I know that has women throwing themselves at him) you wouldn't have known the example. You will never ever ever see Katy Perry dating Bill Gates.

But the bottom line is that social status is not synonymous with wealth. Yes, they correlate and intertwine, and in many cases someone has both. Social Status is about being the coolest guy in the room. Not necessarily the richest guy in the room. The richest guy isn't necessarily the coolest guy. Sure the cool guy can be rich, but the cool guy can also be poor. When I was broke I had women throwing themselves at me.

Social Status and Income are certainly intertwinded, but they're definitely not synonymous.

The bottom line is yes, income is definitely a factor in confidence, but it certainly isn't the whole enchilada. If it were, women would be swooning over Mark Zuckerburg and not this guy.

And today imagine he is a struggling newbie in show business who tries to make his name heard, do you think for a second he will be pulling the same girls with just his good social skills and body language?

Absolutely. I know plenty of guys who do.

 

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[ChrisV]

Look at Bill Cosby. He's significantly more successful and famous than Russell Brand, yet he couldn't get laid to save his life. That loser was one of the most successful comedians of all time and needed a tranquilizer gun in order to score some poon. Yet Brand, who is nowhere near as successful as Cosby has the Kardashian sisters trying to have a freakin foursome with him on live TV. And Russell Brand is ugly as sin. So again, money definitely isn't the only driver of confidence.

 

[Tourmaline]

@ChrisV If all they tried to do was teach fake confidence, no one would frankly give a crap. It's far more than that, it to me still pits men and women against each other, and fails to adequately portray the value of women. Which is misguided. It's supposed to be anti-feminist, yet ends up still with one of the core problems of feminism! Kind of ironic I suppose.

Regarding Brand vs Cosby, to be simple, "girls just wanna have fun". At least until they're looking to have a family that is

 

[YoungPadawan]

And learn how to make pancakes, the ladies love em'!

I second the pancake thing. The first time I met my college girl neighbors, I made them chocolate chip pancakes. They were infatuated with me ever since. lol

 

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[StrikingViper69]

@ChrisV If all they tried to do was teach fake confidence, no one would frankly give a crap. It's far more than that, it to me still pits men and women against each other, and fails to adequately portray the value of women. Which is misguided. It's supposed to be anti-feminist, yet ends up still with one of the core problems of feminism! Kind of ironic I suppose.

Regarding Brand vs Cosby, to be simple, "girls just wanna have fun". At least until they're looking to have a family that is

I've noticed this problem with the red pill stuff too, the more I read I found myself having a really negative view of women... so I stopped following the authors.

They seem to be the other side of the coin in this weird "gender warfare" that has been happening

 

[ChrisV]

I've noticed this problem with the red pill stuff too, the more I read I found myself having a really negative view of women... so I stopped following the authors.

They seem to be the other side of the coin in this weird "gender warfare" that has been happening

I have a buddy that teaches dating material. His name is David Tian. He's a PhD that applies psychology, evolution and psychotherapeutic techniques to help with dating. Totally legit and zero misogyny whatsoever.

Here's his playlist. Great guy.

He also talks about the dangers of those MIGTOW / Red Pill / Incel philosophies at the 6:25 mark of the first video.

 

[StrikingViper69]

I have a buddy that teaches dating material. His name is David Tian. He's a PhD that applies psychology, evolution and psychotherapeutic techniques to help with dating. Totally legit and zero misogyny whatsoever.

Here's his playlist. Great guy.

He also talks about the dangers of those MIGTOW / Red Pill / Incel philosophies at the 6:25 mark of the first video.

Thanks - I'll check that out.

 

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[Brian Suh]

what is thi

The post below is a fair warning for guys that are on this forum and in entrepreneurship for the wrong reasons. If you're looking to make money to get the girl, then you're doing it wrong. There's easier ways to get the girl, and if that's your sole purpose for making money, then you should read my post below and reevaluate your process. Money should not be your priority.

Lately I've talked to too many misguided guys and read too many misguided posts about attracting women. The general thought process in business communities is: If You Get Money --> You'll Attract Women. This is a thought process that has been embedded into us by society - movies, books, tv shows, and advertising. The idea is that the guy with the mansion, sports car, Rolex, etc. is the one that can get the girl. He's the only one that can attract her and make her fall in love, and without money, no attractive girl will ever love him.

Well I'm here to tell you that that's complete bullshit.

When it comes to attracting attractive women, the #1 currency is not money, but physical appearance. Money is likely #3 for most women after personality at #2.

Read that again, let that sink in, and think about it from the girl's perspective. Let's go through an example.

Let's say you're an attractive Asian girl in her 20's. You have the option between the following two guys:

This guy.

Or this guy.

Who do you choose?

The pictures above I took from Instagram. I typed in Shangri-La Singapore to find the first guy. His pics are tagged with #offwhite #louisvuitton #champagne, and a bunch of other namebrand bullshit. The second guy I searched "muay thai" and found him. I won't link the direct instagrams as that won't be appropriate, but let me give you a breakdown of these two.

The first guy has most of his pictures in fancy places. Eating fancy dinners. Sports cars. Bottles of champagne. Luxury brand clothing. From Singapore. He's obviously wealthy.

The second guy has pictures of him playing basketball. In some cheap gym training. Hanging out with family. Nothing special. From the Philippines. Lower class in terms of wealth.

But you know who has sexier girls with him on his instagram?

You guessed it, the second guy.

Women don't want to marry and have kids with some ugly lame guy. If they do, their kids will come out ugly and unattractive. For most women, the thought of their kids is enough to turn them off from the ugly rich guys. They want to be around someone that they're comfortable around and proud to be with. Physical appearance is often the first thing they look at. Now I know that's hard to accept since we've been taught that men want physical attractiveness, and women want "security", but that's bullshit. We live in a time where women make enough to sustain themselves and don't have to sacrifice personal happiness for extra comfort.

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Here. Pick a random bar/beach/day club that is economically within reason for the majority of people. Then go through the pictures. Find me a picture of an attractive girl with a fat ugly guy. Outside of Vegas and whore towns, you won't find it.

Now, think of it from your perspective as a guy:

You have the choice between this woman.

Or this one.

Another two pictures that I took off instagram.

Who do you choose?

The first one is incredibly rich. Has her pictures in fancy hotels, shopping for purses, eating at expensive restaurants. Dating her can change your life. Do you date her?

Or do you date the second girl? She's broke, but has enough money to get her eyelashes done, makeup, and a simple haircut. She diets and works out, so she looks good. If you date her, you'll have to pay for at least half of all expenses and will have to be the primary breadwinner the rest of your life.

Assuming they have the same personalities, who's your pick?

Unless you have unusual tastes or low self-esteem, the girl you likely chose is the second one.

... And that's my point. It's almost the same for women, and explains why rich women will cheat on their husbands with the gym instructor. Or why the boy toy will have a real girl that he's in love with.

Physical appearance is the #1 currency for attracting physically attractive women. Personality likely #2 for most women, and money #3.

So in summary: You attract who you are. Money helps, but it's not the end-all-be-all. If your goal in entrepreneurship is to get the girl, then you're doing it wrong. Instead, go on bodybuilding.com, or check out this guy on youtube: Jeremy Ethier. Take a different approach to getting the girl. After that, reassess if you want money.

this is an incel post lmao

 

[Kevin88660]

If you compare very wealthy person like Russell Brand versus insanely wealthy individual like Bill gates the additional wealth Bill had could not have made A significant impact. Diminishing marginal utility of wealth when someone can guarantees comfortability. But what about average joe with less than half a million liquid net worth. Even if they look act actors they are not in the same league as celebrities.

I am not discrediting communication skills and soft skills that guys try to learn to hit on girls. Since most guys are NOT multimillionaires and most guys do not look like brad pitt these attributes become very important.

 

[Kevin88660]

I've noticed this problem with the red pill stuff too, the more I read I found myself having a really negative view of women... so I stopped following the authors.

They seem to be the other side of the coin in this weird "gender warfare" that has been happening

The red pill is right on the most of the facts but they choose the wrong conclusion to blame on women. Everyone wants the best for themselves regardless of their gender. There is nothing wrong that woman wants to date up just like man prefer hot chicks over ugly/fat chicks.

The real problem is unequal distribution of resources today and it is essentially a political question. A small proportion of men hold the resources and most women try to date/marry the small group of men as their top choice. Im not taking side on politics but it is what it is. If you are on the right spectrum you should just go make money and solve the problem for yourself. If you are a leftist social justice warrior I could care less also. But don't blame on girls its wimpy and stupid.

 

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[Tourmaline]

what is thi

this is an incel post lmao

lmao it is isn't it?

"I'll never have Chad's jaw"
queue sad violin music

If you compare very wealthy person like Russell Brand versus insanely wealthy individual like Bill gates the additional wealth Bill had could not have made A significant impact. Diminishing marginal utility of wealth when someone can guarantees comfortability. But what about average joe with less than half a million liquid net worth. Even if they look act actors they are not in the same league as celebrities.

I am not discrediting communication skills and soft skills that guys try to learn to hit on girls. Since most guys are NOT multimillionaires and most guys do not look like brad pitt these attributes become very important.

After she can buy everything she wants/needs then the only value to higher wealth is status.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

what is thi

this is an incel post lmao

Naw. I just F*cked a lot hotter girls when I got in shape vs when I was out of shape.

You keep reading the internet and using your nerd jargon. I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

 

[ChrisV]

Naw. I just F*cked a lot hotter girls when I got in shape vs when I was out of shape.

You keep reading the internet and using your nerd jargon. I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

Yea I don't see it as an incel post whatsoever. Looks matter. Period. But there are a zillion things you can do to improve your looks.

 

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[Tourmaline]

I don't think anyone believes looks don't matter at all. But the OP implies all that matters is looks, which is simply not true, and really is quintessential male solipsism.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

But the OP implies all that matters is looks, which is simply not true, and really is quintessential male solipsism.

You don't seem to understand the definition of solipsism.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Yea I don't see it as an incel post whatsoever. Looks matter. Period. But there are a zillion things you can do to improve your looks.

Lower your bodyfat.
Put on muscle.
Dress better.
Improve your hygiene.
Get a better haircut.

Easy ways to get started. Something that 99% of people won't do.

 

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[Tourmaline]

Your OP literally is presenting what women want based on what men want. Solipsism is believing the way you perceive the world is how everyone perceives the world.

To clarify more, looks matter to a point. Don't look like a gross fat slob and then it starts to matter a lot less.

On top of that, it matters more if you're going for casual sex, and it matters less if you're going for a serious relationship.

 

[Timmy C]

#Delete thread.

 

[ChrisV]

Lower your bodyfat.
Put on muscle.
Dress better.
Improve your hygiene.
Get a better haircut.

Easy ways to get started. Something that 99% of people won't do.

Yea.. you generally date someone who's like you.

Look at most relationships

Jersey Shore types date Jersey Shore types.
Harvard types date Harvard types.
Crackheads date crackheads
Jocks date cheerleeders
Nerds date nerds
Goths date Goths

You basically attract the female version of yourself

Brad Pitt dated Angelina Jolie
Bill Gates is married to Melinda Gates
Barack Obama is married to Michelle Obama

I mean there are exceptions where that's not true... ie Donald Trump and Melania Knauss, but she's basically a high-end mail order bride. Politics aside, there's no real reason to believe she keeps her eyes open during sex.

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

Your OP literally is presenting what women want based on what men want. Solipsism is believing the way you perceive the world is how everyone perceives the world.

To clarify more, looks matter to a point. Don't look like a gross fat slob and then it starts to matter a lot less.

On top of that, it matters more if you're going for casual sex, and it matters less if you're going for a serious relationship.

Original post is shit, but the thesis is the same. If you want to be with attractive women, you should be attractive.

 

[amp0193]

Put on muscle.
Dress better.
Improve your hygiene.
Get a better haircut.

I've made good progress on 3 of these 4 in the last few months.

Next step is to improve hygiene. I told my wife to look through @AllenCrawley's products and figure out what to get. I want to start taking care of myself, my skin, and making myself smell better. It's time to stop getting my grooming products from Kroger.

Self-confidence has been much improved. My wife has been pleased with the results.

 

[Kevin88660]

Original post is shit, but the thesis is the same. If you want to be with attractive women, you should be attractive.

No point arguing here and there with straw-man points without ranking.

My common sense is this on women’s preference.

1) male actors: good look, charming personality and rich beyond ordinary comfort

2) rich business man (at least 3-5 million liquid net worth)with not so good appearance. Early 40s, bold and can be slightly overweight

3) A investment banker drawing 100k annual income. He is 5’10, goes to gym regularly to keep himself slim, not buffed like monsters. He does not look like Brad Pit but he is clean and hygienic his face is above average. Typical husband and BF material within the reach of ordinary girls.

4) Same as above in earning power but is very average looking. Does not go to the gym and is slightly overweight. Typical appearance of modern urban male.

5) Same as number 3 in look (average face and fit) but only making a very average pay of 45k a year. Typical income of modern urban male.

The gist is this. Every girl like rich guys. Every girl like good looking guys. But they always prefer a higher tier of wealth with a lower tier of looks combination over the vice versa( lower tier of wealth and higher tier of look combination).

And I agree that guys should to the gym to keep fit in order to get chicks because it us a a lot harder and take a lot of time to build wealth!

 

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[Brian Suh]

Naw. I just F*cked a lot hotter girls when I got in shape vs when I was out of shape.

You keep reading the internet and using your nerd jargon. I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

I’m probably in better shape then you no brag. Sure no girl wants to fvck a slob but life isn’t about chicks. It’s definitely a part and I’m not complaining (I’m 23!) but taking care of yourself financially is important in dating. How can a women respect a guy who can’t take care of himself? If your in college sure maybe but as you get older women expect you to have more money’s

 

[rpeck90]

What a good diet, fitness plan, and a bit of style can do for a guy...

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The reality is there is a lot both sexes can do to maximise themselves but few do.

Arguing about "averages" is a great excuse to get nowhere. Work on yourself and you will see results.

There's a guy on Twitter who gives out great style advice around this principle -- https://twitter.com/wellbuiltstyle

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The post below is a fair warning for guys that are on this forum and in entrepreneurship for the wrong reasons. If you're looking to make money to get the girl, then you're doing it wrong. There's easier ways to get the girl, and if that's your sole purpose for making money, then you should read my post below and reevaluate your process. Money should not be your priority.

Lately I've talked to too many misguided guys and read too many misguided posts about attracting women. The general thought process in business communities is: If You Get Money --> You'll Attract Women. This is a thought process that has been embedded into us by society - movies, books, tv shows, and advertising. The idea is that the guy with the mansion, sports car, Rolex, etc. is the one that can get the girl. He's the only one that can attract her and make her fall in love, and without money, no attractive girl will ever love him.

Well I'm here to tell you that that's complete bullshit.

When it comes to attracting attractive women, the #1 currency is not money, but physical appearance. Money is likely #3 for most women after personality at #2.

Read that again, let that sink in, and think about it from the girl's perspective. Let's go through an example.

Let's say you're an attractive Asian girl in her 20's. You have the option between the following two guys:

This guy.

Or this guy.

Who do you choose?

The pictures above I took from Instagram. I typed in Shangri-La Singapore to find the first guy. His pics are tagged with #offwhite #louisvuitton #champagne, and a bunch of other namebrand bullshit. The second guy I searched "muay thai" and found him. I won't link the direct instagrams as that won't be appropriate, but let me give you a breakdown of these two.

The first guy has most of his pictures in fancy places. Eating fancy dinners. Sports cars. Bottles of champagne. Luxury brand clothing. From Singapore. He's obviously wealthy.

The second guy has pictures of him playing basketball. In some cheap gym training. Hanging out with family. Nothing special. From the Philippines. Lower class in terms of wealth.

But you know who has sexier girls with him on his instagram?

You guessed it, the second guy.

Women don't want to marry and have kids with some ugly lame guy. If they do, their kids will come out ugly and unattractive. For most women, the thought of their kids is enough to turn them off from the ugly rich guys. They want to be around someone that they're comfortable around and proud to be with. Physical appearance is often the first thing they look at. Now I know that's hard to accept since we've been taught that men want physical attractiveness, and women want "security", but that's bullshit. We live in a time where women make enough to sustain themselves and don't have to sacrifice personal happiness for extra comfort.

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Here. Pick a random bar/beach/day club that is economically within reason for the majority of people. Then go through the pictures. Find me a picture of an attractive girl with a fat ugly guy. Outside of Vegas and whore towns, you won't find it.

Now, think of it from your perspective as a guy:

You have the choice between this woman.

Or this one.

Another two pictures that I took off instagram.

Who do you choose?

The first one is incredibly rich. Has her pictures in fancy hotels, shopping for purses, eating at expensive restaurants. Dating her can change your life. Do you date her?

Or do you date the second girl? She's broke, but has enough money to get her eyelashes done, makeup, and a simple haircut. She diets and works out, so she looks good. If you date her, you'll have to pay for at least half of all expenses and will have to be the primary breadwinner the rest of your life.

Assuming they have the same personalities, who's your pick?

Unless you have unusual tastes or low self-esteem, the girl you likely chose is the second one.

... And that's my point. It's almost the same for women, and explains why rich women will cheat on their husbands with the gym instructor. Or why the boy toy will have a real girl that he's in love with.

Physical appearance is the #1 currency for attracting physically attractive women. Personality likely #2 for most women, and money #3.

So in summary: You attract who you are. Money helps, but it's not the end-all-be-all. If your goal in entrepreneurship is to get the girl, then you're doing it wrong. Instead, go on bodybuilding.com, or check out this guy on youtube: Jeremy Ethier. Take a different approach to getting the girl. After that, reassess if you want money.

To add to some of the sentiment, my opinion with the gender question is the different motives of each.

In other words -- men and women do the same things for different reasons...

⬇ From the "Branding" post I've been working on (got busy, sorry) ⬇





Ultimately (and this is my opinion), women are directed towards the raising of a family.

This is a biological imperative, and one which she feels the need to fulfill relatively early in her adult life.

What she looks for is a strong partner who's able to compliment her & family through the journey of life.

Whilst what the OP outlined is correct, appearance is symptomatic and not causational. How someone looks compliments the "outward" facets of what can trigger attraction, but ignores the innate value that leads to it in the first place.

Specifically, a woman would see the kickboxing guy as someone who is dedicated to his sport, committed to the pursuit of perfection, and happy to compete. She would attribute strength, dedication and commitment to him. She may take note of his genetics and consider how he looks as a result of the way in which he focused on his pursuit. If she's into that type of physical appearance, it may make her horny - but that's generally an afterthought.

She'd see #1 as a "boy". Unless she has some fetish, women want to copulate with men, not boys. Boys are bad genetics. Boys are weak. Boys are effeminate. Boys are to be mothered. Everything highlighted by the OP is basically the initial "test" to see if a guy is a suitable sexual partner or not. Obviously, men do it too with women (as highlighted).

She may like #2's abs, but in terms of sex appeal, that'll only become pronounced after she has considered him "partner" material. She'll obviously take note of it, but it's not a deal maker/breaker.

Furthermore, unless the guy is overtly sexual (which is either something you have or you don't), his appearance won't likely become a point of sexual desire until he's proven that he is "compatible" with her -- going on dates, remembering things about her and making conversation about them if he sees her.

In other words, women see the result as a means of a process. She values a man on how he conducts that process, his proclivity to do new & interesting things, and what that would mean for her & any children she may have with him. The deal with "bad boys" is somewhat a cognitive dissonance -- his "process" triggers her attraction (all the hallmarks of a strong male)... but the results are absent.

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The problem men have with this is that it's very difficult to see the world through a woman's eyes.

As men are born without value, it's incumbent on them to put performance at the core of everything. This leads to the glorification of status, and the idea that unless you have a visible standing in the world, you might as well go swimming with concrete boots on.

The truth is that what men attribute to attractiveness is almost always based on the perception of strength, dominance and power. Women don't care about any of that (at least at the functional level -- they see everybody as living creatures, not pawns in a game of gunboat diplomacy). They care about life experience, and are drawn to men who radiate as vibrant & virile life as possible.

Whilst there are outward signs of this (expensive stuff, good physique), the core always comes down whether he'll be a good fit for her & her kids. I know there are many ways to look at this, but this is just my observation and opinion about what sits at the "core" of the bond between men and women.

The biggest "mistake" most men make (again, my opinion) is putting their "value" into external things. Although women do this too, they do it to enhance their own value...

Men put their value into external things -- money, car, abs, previous girlfriends, etc.

This has been exhibited plenty of times in this thread, and can be summed up with the hermetic maxim "as within, so without". Having nothing inside projects a void outside. This void has to be filled with something, so most people latch onto "stuff" in order to do it. I've done it before, not judging.

To truly become "attractive", the key is to basically go inward and become attuned to what you truly enjoy. Pursue that with a constant vigor, and you'll eventually attract people (male + female) based on the process through which you do it. This is what most people are missing, as they are starting from the outside and working inwards.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

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If any such posts contain nudity, it will be deleted without warning.

For the sake of this post above and its extensive analysis, I've edited out the nudity.

 

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[ChrisV]

Thanks - I'll check that out.

If you wanna see some hilarious shit, check out r/IncelTears. Example:

 

[LeoistheSun]

I usually stay away from posting in these threads

If you wanna see some hilarious shit, check out r/IncelTears. Example:

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Stuff like this makes my stomach churn. I feel bad for the ladies