wtf is that?
try to presell?
try to presell?
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Free registration at the forum removes this block.I have sent you a link to a well established manufacturer. The references they provide are impressive and are endorsed by an authority I trust.Having trouble finding a micro modal underwear manufacturer, suppliers that do have these don't seem legitimate and there audit reports cant be trusted.
Any insight as to where to search?
I understand your concerns because suppliers in both India and Pakistan have developed a bad reputation. It has not only been my experience, but others that I have personal connections with have told me of their own bad experiences.Hi @Walter Hay
I currently work with my supplier in Pakistan that has been very trust worthy. This supplier was referred to me by a colleague of mine. However, I feel like I can get a better price from other suppliers.
Many suppliers reach out to me and their prices seem much better. I understand the risk and have heard stories of suppliers giving high quality samples, but when it comes to production orders, they will send bad quality. What is your recommendation on preventing this from happening? I can ask for pictures of their factory, along with the products. I can even visit them but I still feel like I can potentially get "scammed".
Thanks!
Yes, when you know that one of the big retailers buy from certain companies you can be very confident that those companies have proven performance. I hope my instructions on how to make use of that list will help you find great suppliers.Hi Walter,
Thanks for the revised edition! the K-Mart Supplier list is golden. You'll instantly know that they are legit.
My question:
I'm looking to have a prototype made. It needs to be CNC-machined. The final product will be made with a different manufacturing method.
Do you think it would be best to just go with a trading company to handle the sourcing. Because getting the absolutely cheapest price is not necessary when I just need 1 or 2 pieces made.
I'd do it locally, but local companies aren't even willing to give me a quote. I know it's totally doable and I'm ready to pay for it, but the business just is too good around here for CNC-shops.
My book has helped people in countries around the world. The information and methods taught apply in every country.Hello Walter,
I have a simple question. I've been reading this topic, I went through a few pages to know something about this subject. I've also checked out your page Proven China Sourcing and I found out there is a course called Proven Amazon Course.
I am trying to find a way to get inside of this kind of "job" to make some money in the next months because I am leaving my job this month.
I had never touched this topic before (about Import and Export items). This book about import from China that you have, can really help me to know from nothing how to import/export and get some income? I am also from Brazil and I don't have sure if your book technics applies to my country.
GG
They are both glorified sourcing agents.Walt any feedback on services like Sourcify or Prouduct? Are they glorified sourcing agents?
Yes, when you know that one of the big retailers buy from certain companies you can be very confident that those companies have proven performance. I hope my instructions on how to make use of that list will help you find great suppliers.
If you want to have some prototypes made in China you will have start the process on the basis that you want to order production quantities and to do that you should ask them to quote for volume orders as well as the cost of the prototypes.
I can understand that Finnish CNC businesses would be reluctant to handle one - off prototyping, and the same would apply in China.
Would 3D printing be a suitable method for making your prototypes?
Walter
It is very common for suppliers in China to use private PayPal accounts and that probably explains the free email address for the PayPal account.I actually managed to get a quote from China. They are specialized in protoypes only.
The quote is what I expected it to be, about 1300$ which is a fair price for this kind of job from my experience.
They also accept Paypal. But my only concern is that the Paypal is registered in free email service, while the rest of the company has @companyname.com emails.
Your supplier is wrong. Door to door means exactly that. Delivery to the destination airport is air freight, not air courier. Costs to you after it arrives at the airport on an air freight basis can be huge, so do not accept those terms.Hi Walter,
I have asked a quote for door-to-door Air courier shipment and my supplier says door-to-door Air courier shipment means that the shipment will be delivered to the airport in my country, and not to my door. Is that true? I thought it literally meant door to door.
Also I have to pay 12% of the invoice to customs clearance tax. Does that mean 12% of the price of the goods only or 12% of the price of the goods+shipping costs combined?
Thank you!
Depending on the value of the shipment you might not have to pay any duty at all. Each country has a a minimum amount on which they charge duty, and if it is below that amount it goes through duty free.
If duty is charged it is usually on the total of FOB cost + freight.
You are thinking this through well. In answer to your questions:
1. Yes that is right, but you need to get your supplier to only ship every 3 days, otherwise if two or three shipments arrive close together they will be treated as a single shipment and you will pay duty on the total value of the two or three.
You must calculate whether or not the saving on duty is more than the extra cost of shipping in smaller value shipments. You also need to take into account the inconvenience.
2. Correct again. If you can reduce the freight cost that would help, but you need a cooperative supplier to help. Shipment via ePacket might save some money but you need to ask your supplier to find the most economical door to door shipment for you. In the case of ePacket you will possibly have to collect from your post office.
I suggest you check with the Post Office in your country to see if they automatically clear and deliver. In many countries that is routine, but if they don't you might have to go to a Postal Customs depot to collect and this could involve the red tape of completing an informal clearance.
Refresh your memory about invoices by looking at Chapter 17 Order Procedure and Checklist. The checklist is not numbered, but the important part when shipping multiple small shipments is the 9th item on the list. That item helps with clearance whether automatic or by you doing an informal clearance.
Walter
When checking those air and sea freight options it is essential that you get quotes that cover all of the port charges at the destination airport or sea port.Yes, I should be careful not to overthink it
Very good to know about shipping every other 3 days and the ePacket option. I am investigating everything right now.
It's been a hell lots of research importing my first product. Doesn't help that it has different sizes and styles to choose from and it's a big item, meaning high shipment costs. I'm going to see whether air freight and sea is a better opton.
Thank you so much for the help. Honestly, your book has saved me sooo much time and prevented me from so many errors!
When checking those air and sea freight options it is essential that you get quotes that cover all of the port charges at the destination airport or sea port.
Those local charges have often been known to exceed the freight cost for shipping goods thousands of kilometers.
Walter
The correct Incoterm for the quote you have received is DDP. It should read: DDP (Delivery Address) DDP = Delivered Duty Paid. If the quote is for door to door the delivery address must not be the destination port, it must be your address.Thank you for the reminder, I will certainly make sure of that. I hope I am not being too annoying with all the questions but here it goes...
I asked this supplier to quote me for Air courier, door-to-door, customs clearance included, CPT (if I understood it correctly in the book, I should ask for air courier quote this way) and now they have quoted me a price that includes the customs duty (2.7%) and VAT (21%) that has to be paid to the Dutch government . So it is pre paid already. I thought the quote I asked did not include these, so I hope this is safe.
That quoted price for Air courier seems reasonable and maybe even too expensive. But they have also quoted me a very good price for train freight (30 days to deliver door-to-door) that has all these costs included. My question is: is freight train something that is usually safe and thus a good option?
The cost was 430 USD for 8 cartons of 58x40x43cm,11kg.
I am curious as to whether sea is even cheaper, I will figure that out soon.
The correct Incoterm for the quote you have received is DDP. It should read: DDP (Delivery Address) DDP = Delivered Duty Paid. If the quote is for door to door the delivery address must not be the destination port, it must be your address.
In answer to your question, rail freight is generally regarded as one of the safest freight methods.
The forwarder being used by your supplier is most likely http://www.zotrains.com They ship from the big rail terminal at Cheng du, and most freight goes via the shortest route which is through Russia. The rate you have been quoted is very good, and I doubt that sea freight would be cheaper.
ZoTrains, also known as Sino-Euro Trains, are based in Shenzhen, and they have offices in Poland, Germany, and the Netherlands, but they can transport cargo by rail to almost any destination in Europe. I would regard them as safe to use.
Your questions are not annoying. The purpose of my AMA is to help members with their sourcing and shipping questions, so you are in fact helping others by asking questions.
Walter
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