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Welcome back @codo3500, I havent seen you post in a while.

How is your fitness coaching / app going?

I would see to see an overall update on what you have been up to.
 

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Welcome back @codo3500, I havent seen you post in a while.

How is your fitness coaching / app going?

I would see to see an overall update on what you have been up to.
It's just cruising man. The business partners and I are going in different directions; they're full time on it, I cut my shares back and only do a little bit each week. Still plenty of rev, we made plenty of major major mistakes and were lucky to get it back to a sweet spot to be honest haha. That's entrepreneurship I guess.

We're developing an app right now using my meal planning algorithm, it'll be 6-8 weeks, but I'm pretty sure I can hack our way to the top of the app store; if I do that, then the biz will be truly crushing it haha.
 
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It should work like a charm, but BE CAREFUL with the viral part.

Tagging friends or telling them to share in any way is AGAINST FB TERMS now. This is what they say about it:

"3. Promotions may be administered on Pages or within apps on Facebook. Personal Timelines and friend connections must not be used to administer promotions (ex: “share on your Timeline to enter” or “share on your friend's Timeline to get additional entries”, and "tag your friends in this post to enter" are not permitted)."

Source: Facebook

They will ban you IF they notice, so make sure to have an additional ad account in place (with a different credit card) if you tris this strategy using the viral part of it.
 
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Any idea if it could work for a coffee shop ? Do i need to offer a prize or not ?
Anyway, great tips!
 

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It should work like a charm, but BE CAREFUL with the viral part.

Tagging friends or telling them to share in any way is AGAINST FB TERMS now. This is what they say about it:

"3. Promotions may be administered on Pages or within apps on Facebook. Personal Timelines and friend connections must not be used to administer promotions (ex: “share on your Timeline to enter” or “share on your friend's Timeline to get additional entries”, and "tag your friends in this post to enter" are not permitted)."

Source: Facebook

They will ban you IF they notice, so make sure to have an additional ad account in place (with a different credit card) if you tris this strategy using the viral part of it.
I think they can't (obviously they can) see your conversations and as you only ask them/propose them on Messenger and not on the post publicly, you're someway not against the terms.
 
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Well, I certainly hope so. Maybe you can add the "tag your friends" part to the sequence after FB approved the ad.
 

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@codo3500 - Interesting technique, we're brand new to Messenger and giving it a try. So far seeing good response.

Are you sending any broadcasts to subscribers in the days between when they sign up and when you select a winner to keep them warm or just blasting out the runner-up message at the end?
 

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Well, I certainly hope so. Maybe you can add the "tag your friends" part to the sequence after FB approved the ad.
From what i know you can't change a text after the ad is running, but even if it's after or before the ads is running, if you say 'tag your friend' and Facebook see it or someone make a request to facebook to take down your contest because you've done that you're done.

That's why this technique of asking gently in Messenger is great because it's not public.
 
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From what i know you can't change a text after the ad is running, but even if it's after or before the ads is running, if you say 'tag your friend' and Facebook see it or someone make a request to facebook to take down your contest because you've done that you're done.

That's why this technique of asking gently in Messenger is great because it's not public.

No, I was talking about adding it to the Messenger sequence after the ad is approved (in case they decide to try the funnel, which seems reasonable they should) ,but not in the ad itself.
 

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Telling people to comment below to Enter is against the FB TOS at this point.

So, be careful with that.
 

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Telling people to comment below to Enter is against the FB TOS at this point.

So, be careful with that.
Sorry I don't get you.
Isn't the point of the strategy to tell people to comment below to enter the competition?
How is that against the TOS?
Or has Facebook suddenly changed their TOS?
If so, doesn't that make the entire strategy basically against Facebook's TOS?
 
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It isn't actually against their TOS but they don't like it and they will start demoting posts that ask for comments.

So they will not ban your ad account for asking to comment, but it will make this strategy somewhat less effective I guess.
 

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It isn't actually against their TOS but they don't like it and they will start demoting posts that ask for comments.

So they will not ban your ad account for asking to comment, but it will make this strategy somewhat less effective I guess.

They just came out and said it's a "no no" and not to do it. So, why it may technically not be in their terms YET and they may just limit your reach like the 20% text rule, it's still something to be careful with if you have an asset you don't want to put at risk.
 

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Sorry I don't get you.
Isn't the point of the strategy to tell people to comment below to enter the competition?
How is that against the TOS?
Or has Facebook suddenly changed their TOS?
If so, doesn't that make the entire strategy basically against Facebook's TOS?

Yes and no... Think outside the box and try to say the same thing without actually calling them out.

Instead of: Tag a friend who loves oranges.
Maybe this: Who's your "one" friend that loves oranges?

Think outside the box for the comment part too...
 

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Yes and no... Think outside the box and try to say the same thing without actually calling them out.

Instead of: Tag a friend who loves oranges.
Maybe this: Who's your "one" friend that loves oranges?

Think outside the box for the comment part too...
Great answer, that's what i've done for my facebook pages, i didn't mentionned that technique
 

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For anyone wanting to see an active campaign using the viral bot method:
F45 Training Pullenvale

So it looks like you refrained in this ad from asking people reading it to share or tag friends to get an additional entry in the contest. Did you avoid doing this because of Facebook's new policy about not asking explicitly for Likes, Shares, etc.?

I just read the rest of the thread. Apologies for the redundancy. But the question could be reworded to: What are some more creative ways to skirt Facebook's ToS?
 
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Update on my Medium hack experiment: I posted an article from my forum on Medium, then used microworkers to do 2 tasks. One task was to clap 20 to 50 times. The other was to comment. I got the clap count up to 6k. I also got 30 fairly relevant short comments.

Organically, 2 people followed me and 1 person commented. It was hard to pick a higher ranking tag for my topic. I chose one, then 2 others that aren't as popular, but more relevant to my article topic.

The article jumped to #1 on those 2 lesser tags, but barely cracked the top 50 on the main tag. The microworkers cost about 25 bucks total. All in all, I'd say my Medium hack wasn't that impactful.
 

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So it looks like you refrained in this ad from asking people reading it to share or tag friends to get an additional entry in the contest. Did you avoid doing this because of Facebook's new policy about not asking explicitly for Likes, Shares, etc.?

I just read the rest of the thread. Apologies for the redundancy. But the question could be reworded to: What are some more creative ways to skirt Facebook's ToS?
I'm writing "Comment" with a weird Spanish, like Çomment Now. Seems to work.
 

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Interesting strategy I'm thinking about doing something similar with a hotel chain that we are currently working with. Really enjoy your videos but get a better mic damnit
 
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What kind of timeframe you typically put on these posts? Do you say that they only run for a month? Or do you say it runs in definitely and you draw once a month? Just kind of curious how you are handling this.
 

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Awesome. Welcome back man.

I've seen some really interesting marketing methods happening with FB messenger bots!
 

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this is great stuff. thanks for the share.
 
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Thanks for the share! I just went live with this technique and will update you guys on how it goes!
 

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Been live for about 8 hours and so far have 10 subscribers on many chat. People started to really engage between 7-10 pm while hanging out on the couch. Thanks for the hack @codo3500! Now I just hope I can get some conversions at the end of all this. I will be funneling to my Shopify store with a 20% off consolation prize. I don't know if that's irresistible enough but it's all I can offer. +rep
 

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Did not expect this, my giveaway has gone viral.

I am 5 days into a 10 day campaign. My facebook boost settings are as targeted as it can get. My total budget for this 10 day facebook boost is $100 (though it's projected to cost a little less than $100 when all is said and done. My prize has a total value of about $50.

Up until this point, I have:

323 opt-in subscribers on facebook messenger.
250 likes on the post, 50 shares, 700 comments.

Another tweak that I found to work quite well is asking the contestant what color product they would like just in case they win. This puts them in the mindset of winning. Hopefully, they will just buy the product if they don't win the contest since they already pictured themselves with said product.

I also included a link of my Shopify site for them to check out the colors. Because of this, visits to my site have skyrocketed, though there have been no sales, which makes sense since the contest is still ongoing. I also added top-selling amazon products related to my niche, to my Shopify site using the app Spreadr (affiliate marketing).

I am now brainstorming on what the best strategy is to convert these leads when the contest is complete. As of now, I am planning on offering everyone 20% off my products.
 
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Did not expect this, my giveaway has gone viral.

I am 5 days into a 10 day campaign. My facebook boost settings are as targeted as it can get. My total budget for this 10 day facebook boost is $100 (though it's projected to cost a little less than $100 when all is said and done. My prize has a total value of about $50.

Up until this point, I have:

323 opt-in subscribers on facebook messenger.
250 likes on the post, 50 shares, 700 comments.

Another tweak that I found to work quite well is asking the contestant what color product they would like just in case they win. This puts them in the mindset of winning. Hopefully, they will just buy the product if they don't win the contest since they already pictured themselves with said product.

I also included a link of my Shopify site for them to check out the colors. Because of this, visits to my site have skyrocketed, though there have been no sales, which makes sense since the contest is still ongoing. I also added top-selling amazon products related to my niche, to my Shopify site using the app Spreadr (affiliate marketing).

I am now brainstorming on what the best strategy is to convert these leads when the contest is complete. As of now, I am planning on offering everyone 20% off my products.
Great work man!

I love the color idea. I'm going to launch one soon where it's a "Say why you deserve to win in 25 words or less", I feel like the FB Algo will favor this, as it's going to look like more legit comments.

Great work on taking action man!
 

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I ran a competition like this over the last week and here are the results:

Prize value approximately $150
Ad spend $225
Revenue generated $200
Comments on post over 500
Entries into competition over 400

Ways I could improve next time:

1. There was a sizable difference between the number of entries/subscribers on manychat and the number of comments on the ad. Potentially due to the bot not grabbing some comments but also maybe just lots of comments tagging friends didn't look into this too closely and I should.

2. More diverse ad targeting, I used an audience which has been profitable on Facebook previously perhaps diversifying my targeting to a few different audiences would be better next time.

3. Better follow up message sequence to get the user on our website before contest
 

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