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Here's the thing:
I'm working on a product and received feedback from a person. I'm interested in knowing whether or not influencer's usually have a repeatable process that leads to better creation and outcomes.
The problem I'm having is that influential books I picked up don't usually have the right answers for me.
Books I've read: Lean Startup 25%
4 hour workweek (dusty a$$ beater that helped me make a huge mistake and nearly burn a resource because I visited website thinking the daily/weekly hustles were well thought out and golden opportunities)
$100 startup 80% 5 stars because it talks about how people discovered opportunities based on their skills, passions, and what was viable with most of them being done for $1k or less and $100 or less.
Personal MBA 100% it stopped me from going to business school for crying out loud and may have saved me $200k worth of debt. I'll only go back to school if I need more time put off my student loans and will probably only do a part-time program in a hard skill.
Can list more: the personal MBA opened my ideas to why further schooling doesn't pay off after college, and they could probably make a case about why college doesn't pay off. I can. It's all about the lottery internships and prestige rank with high grades.
My current beliefs are:
A) the product or service needs to adapt to problem
B) there is a general and repeatable set of steps to take to prove and create the initial solution.
C) influencer's are usually wrong, but I'm not entirely sure.
D) take massive action and you can attract the right ideas/problems to solve
E) you shouldn't ever come up with an idea. You should come up with a way to find out where the problems are.
I listen to podcasts like Side Hustle School and How I Built This by NPR which preaches financial independence even if you work a job. It's important to have multiple sources of active and passive income.
Part 1:
The problem I have is that this guy says he doesn't want to add people to the group I'm creating to find like minded people because he likes to see if information is good before he shares it 1.
2) he says he doesn't have "a lot" of friends interested, which means he has at least 1 friend interested.
Part 2:
His feedback was to include quotes from influencers and important institutions in entrepreneurship that say do this with stats 1.
2) he says to dumb down the information and create simple with complec information in a balance.
(sorry the key between the z and c button on my keyboard is broken. Yes, I'm poor. This is why I'm hustling.)
My thoughts about Part 1 and Part 2:
I think he is trying to appeal to authority. I'm anti-authority, and it goes against my values. If I find information that helps me and leads me to some progress then I use it.
2) His second statement of feedback feels solipsistic. It feels like he thinks he's the only one who feels and sees. It also feels contradictory because something can be simple to you and complec to others.
There is no balance and no way to make a balance. I feel like I shot myself in the foot because I asked him what would make him believe what I'm saying is the right way to build a product.
Part 1 problem 1 isn't problem on me. It's an embarrassment or insecurity issue.
Part 1 problem 2 feels like a trust issue.
However, the second half seems like a real issue. It seems like he wants authority because he believes it right. I do however think that he's asking for organization when I do the writes because the logical contradiction weighs itself to it being a him problem. Maybe stream-of-consciousness isn't right for him, which is how I'm doing it.
Now onto the main meat of the question:
I want to challenge his thoughts about authority. I think the best learning is by doing. This is what was told me to early on by entrepreneur that makes a modest amount of income and lives on beaches. I still believe this because even after I spent months of reading on the internet. I made a really bad mistake my first time around.
The mistake is in my introduction thread.
Introduction - Learning to Drive Traffic
I feel like I can establish trust with him if I reasonably demonstrate why influencers and institutions even in entrepreneurship aren't the holy grail.
I think there may be some influencers who have the right steps (read at least 1) and some who don't have the right steps (read at least 1).
One of my main gripes with startups is that everyone talks about doing things the lean way, but no one says these are the repeatable and actionable steps to do everything lean and without waste. I think this is because the vast majority of people preaching the lean startup way are not millionaires and have not made any money. Do I think the concept is wrong.
Not entirely. I think the concept is a little misguided and has been overstated, misused, done incorrectly, and misappropriated.
Here's an instance: search heavily about how to test ideas the lean startup way. Everyone tells you to throw up a landing page and use advertisement traffic from Google and Facebook. This is great, but no one tells you that signups are worthless unless they have a specific dollar amount that is tested on actual credit card numbers or button clicks. Even further, it's a rare read for someone to mention that on a forum and an even further rare read to see it on a blog and even further rare read anywhere for someone to say that you should try to hit product or service development costs through pre-orders built on a product FREE TRIAL based on credits without telling them. If you have a successful campaign then you can take those pre-orders right to development on an accelerated time line and build ROBUST features by getting feedback from pre-orders. If you have a failed campaign then it's no harm or foul because it's a free trial and there's no money to return for a FAILED product because you didn't collect money.
Even further, the lean startup way is preached incorrectly in my opinion. People tell you to build a scrappy product. If your customers are pre-ordering dinner and are paying you before the product is built and basically creating the menu then you can build as much as you want for first release that's entirely dependent upon your pre-order amount. You can ship an awesome product.
Also, the only thing I've ever heard that was good coming out of Robert Kiyosaki's books is that your report card after school is how much make, how well you manage it, and how your cash flow looks, which is the truth.
P.S. this is why I'm learning to drive traffic. I believe I have a repeatable process here that will work the majority of the time for REAL problems that need to solved, not ideas that I came up with myself.
Bottom:
P.P.S. I'm new so go easy on me if you have strong opinions about this. I'm currently reading the millionaire fastlane and am 20% of the way done. I only asked this question because multiple searches through the Google site search didn't reveal anything.
I'm working on a product and received feedback from a person. I'm interested in knowing whether or not influencer's usually have a repeatable process that leads to better creation and outcomes.
The problem I'm having is that influential books I picked up don't usually have the right answers for me.
Books I've read: Lean Startup 25%
4 hour workweek (dusty a$$ beater that helped me make a huge mistake and nearly burn a resource because I visited website thinking the daily/weekly hustles were well thought out and golden opportunities)
$100 startup 80% 5 stars because it talks about how people discovered opportunities based on their skills, passions, and what was viable with most of them being done for $1k or less and $100 or less.
Personal MBA 100% it stopped me from going to business school for crying out loud and may have saved me $200k worth of debt. I'll only go back to school if I need more time put off my student loans and will probably only do a part-time program in a hard skill.
Can list more: the personal MBA opened my ideas to why further schooling doesn't pay off after college, and they could probably make a case about why college doesn't pay off. I can. It's all about the lottery internships and prestige rank with high grades.
My current beliefs are:
A) the product or service needs to adapt to problem
B) there is a general and repeatable set of steps to take to prove and create the initial solution.
C) influencer's are usually wrong, but I'm not entirely sure.
D) take massive action and you can attract the right ideas/problems to solve
E) you shouldn't ever come up with an idea. You should come up with a way to find out where the problems are.
I listen to podcasts like Side Hustle School and How I Built This by NPR which preaches financial independence even if you work a job. It's important to have multiple sources of active and passive income.
Part 1:
The problem I have is that this guy says he doesn't want to add people to the group I'm creating to find like minded people because he likes to see if information is good before he shares it 1.
2) he says he doesn't have "a lot" of friends interested, which means he has at least 1 friend interested.
Part 2:
His feedback was to include quotes from influencers and important institutions in entrepreneurship that say do this with stats 1.
2) he says to dumb down the information and create simple with complec information in a balance.
(sorry the key between the z and c button on my keyboard is broken. Yes, I'm poor. This is why I'm hustling.)
My thoughts about Part 1 and Part 2:
I think he is trying to appeal to authority. I'm anti-authority, and it goes against my values. If I find information that helps me and leads me to some progress then I use it.
2) His second statement of feedback feels solipsistic. It feels like he thinks he's the only one who feels and sees. It also feels contradictory because something can be simple to you and complec to others.
There is no balance and no way to make a balance. I feel like I shot myself in the foot because I asked him what would make him believe what I'm saying is the right way to build a product.
Part 1 problem 1 isn't problem on me. It's an embarrassment or insecurity issue.
Part 1 problem 2 feels like a trust issue.
However, the second half seems like a real issue. It seems like he wants authority because he believes it right. I do however think that he's asking for organization when I do the writes because the logical contradiction weighs itself to it being a him problem. Maybe stream-of-consciousness isn't right for him, which is how I'm doing it.
Now onto the main meat of the question:
I want to challenge his thoughts about authority. I think the best learning is by doing. This is what was told me to early on by entrepreneur that makes a modest amount of income and lives on beaches. I still believe this because even after I spent months of reading on the internet. I made a really bad mistake my first time around.
The mistake is in my introduction thread.
Introduction - Learning to Drive Traffic
I feel like I can establish trust with him if I reasonably demonstrate why influencers and institutions even in entrepreneurship aren't the holy grail.
I think there may be some influencers who have the right steps (read at least 1) and some who don't have the right steps (read at least 1).
One of my main gripes with startups is that everyone talks about doing things the lean way, but no one says these are the repeatable and actionable steps to do everything lean and without waste. I think this is because the vast majority of people preaching the lean startup way are not millionaires and have not made any money. Do I think the concept is wrong.
Not entirely. I think the concept is a little misguided and has been overstated, misused, done incorrectly, and misappropriated.
Here's an instance: search heavily about how to test ideas the lean startup way. Everyone tells you to throw up a landing page and use advertisement traffic from Google and Facebook. This is great, but no one tells you that signups are worthless unless they have a specific dollar amount that is tested on actual credit card numbers or button clicks. Even further, it's a rare read for someone to mention that on a forum and an even further rare read to see it on a blog and even further rare read anywhere for someone to say that you should try to hit product or service development costs through pre-orders built on a product FREE TRIAL based on credits without telling them. If you have a successful campaign then you can take those pre-orders right to development on an accelerated time line and build ROBUST features by getting feedback from pre-orders. If you have a failed campaign then it's no harm or foul because it's a free trial and there's no money to return for a FAILED product because you didn't collect money.
Even further, the lean startup way is preached incorrectly in my opinion. People tell you to build a scrappy product. If your customers are pre-ordering dinner and are paying you before the product is built and basically creating the menu then you can build as much as you want for first release that's entirely dependent upon your pre-order amount. You can ship an awesome product.
Also, the only thing I've ever heard that was good coming out of Robert Kiyosaki's books is that your report card after school is how much make, how well you manage it, and how your cash flow looks, which is the truth.
P.S. this is why I'm learning to drive traffic. I believe I have a repeatable process here that will work the majority of the time for REAL problems that need to solved, not ideas that I came up with myself.
Bottom:
P.P.S. I'm new so go easy on me if you have strong opinions about this. I'm currently reading the millionaire fastlane and am 20% of the way done. I only asked this question because multiple searches through the Google site search didn't reveal anything.
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