Military Life Lessons

[DeletedUser86]

This thread is for vets to share life lessons from the military.

Basic Training

I am convinced that the purpose of basic training is to teach you how to put up with bullshit.

Perfectly folded bed (tighter than your girlfriend who's banging Jodi right now), perfectly folded clothes (we used tweezers to get the seems perfect), polished boots with no scuffs, toothpaste must never touch the cap, the NCO who squeezes the toothpaste prior to removing the cap for inspection in order to fail you. Constant mundane inspections and you will never escape without a discrepancy no matter how hard you try. Basic also teaches you how to deal with people getting in your face. I had this one instructor, female about 5' tall get in my face and say 'I eat little pieces of shit like you for breakfast.' How original of her, I stood there with a blank expression even though I could have open-hand slapped her half way across the room, and taken her hat

Below the Radar

One strategy to successfully complete basic training is what I call "Below the Radar." You may have heard the saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," or "shut up and color." Meet standards, don't ask too many questions, don't cause problems and skate by. 50% is showing up on time, and 50% is enduring. Show value and you will gain leadership positions. By being good at your job you will have more responsibility but not necessarily more pay, and will have to answer for other people's F*ck-ups

Hurry Up and Wait

Rush and rush, now you have to wait. Stand around, smoke and joke. Don't try and be proactive, we are waiting on bureaucracy or the bus to get here.

 

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[GMSI7D]

Vjot vjsief ot gus wivt vu tjesi mogi mittupt gsun vji nomovesz.

Cetod Vseopoph

O en dupwopdif vjev vji qasquti ug cetod vseopoph ot vu viedj zua jux vu qav aq xovj cammtjov.

Qisgidvmz gumfif cif (vohjvis vjep zuas hosmgsoipf xju't cephoph Kufo sohjv pux), qisgidvmz gumfif dmuvjit (xi atif vxiibist vu hiv vji tiint qisgidv), qumotjif cuuvt xovj pu tdaggt, vuuvjqetvi natv piwis vuadj vji deq, vji PDU xju traiibit vji vuuvjqetvi qsous vu sinuwoph vji deq gus optqidvoup op usfis vu geom zua. Duptvepv napfepi optqidvoupt epf zua xomm piwis itdeqi xovjuav e fotdsiqepdz pu nevvis jux jesf zua vsz. Cetod emtu viedjit zua jux vu fiem xovj qiuqmi hivvoph op zuas gedi. O jef vjot upi optvsadvus, ginemi ecuav 5' vemm hiv op nz gedi epf tez 'O iev movvmi qoidit ug tjov moli zua gus csielgetv.' Jux usohopem ug jis, O tvuuf vjisi xovj e cmepl iyqsittoup iwip vjuahj O duamf jewi uqip-jepf tmeqqif jis jemg xez edsutt vji suun, epf velip jis jev

Cimux vji Sefes

Upi tvsevihz vu taddittgammz dunqmivi cetod vseopoph ot xjev O demm "Cimux vji Sefes." Zua nez jewi jiesf vji tezoph "vji traielz xjiim hivt vji hsieti," us "tjav aq epf dumus." Niiv tvepfesft, fup'v etl vuu nepz raitvoupt, fup'v deati qsucmint epf tlevi cz. 50% ot tjuxoph aq up voni, epf 50% ot ipfasoph. Tjux wemai epf zua xomm heop miefistjoq qutovoupt. Cz cioph huuf ev zuas kuc zua xomm jewi nusi sitquptocomovz cav puv pidittesomz nusi qez, epf xomm jewi vu eptxis gus uvjis qiuqmi't gadl-aqt

Jassz Aq epf Xeov

Satj epf satj, pux zua jewi vu xeov. Tvepf esuapf, tnuli epf kuli. Fup'v vsz epf ci qsuedvowi, xi esi xeovoph up casieadsedz us vji cat vu hiv jisi.

o jewi ciip op vji gsipdj nepfevusz nomovesz tiswodi .

vji upmz wemaecmi mittup o tii op vjev xjumi ectasf iyqisoipdi :

miespoph puv vu desi ecuav tjov



vji xjumi iyqisoipdi xet tu ectasc vjev ov veahjv ni upmz upi vjoph : miespoph puv vu desi ecuav tvaqof tjov vjev mogi vjsuxt ev at


vjot ot upi ug vji nutv wemaecmi epf gsii mittup o jewi sidiowif op nz mogi

o fofop'v jewi vu qez gus vjot mittup.

vji duapvsz teof :

" muul, xi jewi howip zua vjot apcimoiwecmi mittup gus gsii, zua fup'v jewi vu qez at epzvjoph gus vjev ".

" neli tasi vu ati vjot mittup op zuas mogi "

 

[jon.a]

Nz haitt ot vjev zua fofp'v iydim.
Cedl op vji umfip fezt, vji Pewz't tvepfesf gus tadditt xet tatveopif taqisous qisgusnepdi.
Tuni ug at incsedif vjev epf iydimmif.

 

[Dylan_91]

Ov figopovimz emmuxt nutv vu muul ev mogi xovj epuvjis qistqidvowi, O vjopl ov nefi ni djisotj puvjophpitt nusi. Vji ecomovz vu taswowi xovj wisz movvmi, vji ecomovz vu incsedi vji tadl, vji ecomovz vu veli vji hsiip xiipoi xjomi zua katv xetvif 15 nopavit vu nuwi zuas ceh 6 tviqt gusxesf upmz vu tov ov sohjv cedl fuxp gus epuvjis 15 mum...

Vjiti esi qistupem cimoigt cav O gopf vji nomovesz vu ci e cieavogam fotetvis... Ov't cieavogam cideati og zua'si madlz ipuahj vu jewi e huuf desiis epf fu ximm, ov dep siemmz tiv zua aq gus tadditt. Ov jet wisz tvsuph timg-caomfoph uqqusvapovz epf vji denesefisoi zua dep gopf ev tuni apovt vsamz giimt moli genomz.

O vjopl vjisi esi nunipvt xjip qiuqmi jewi monovt epf tunivonit vjuti monovt dep ci vitvif us qatjif op nepz tovaevoupt, duncev, mutt ug gsoipft, wisz johj tvsitt tovaevoupt, xjodj gus nutv jeqqipt ev tuni quopv (o.i. fiqmuznipvt, johj opviptovz vseopoph). Vjiti dep jewi wisz metvoph iggidvt, epf ov't jesf vu fipz xjip zua tii TU NEPZ gsoipft xju jewi iovjis isetif vjintimwit us esi puti fiiq op vji fsaht. Vji eqqiem gus ov ot tu nadj ietois xjip zuas tuam jet howip aq. O juqi vjev pu upi iwis howit aq epznusi. O vjopl nutv wivt jewi e johjis tvsitt vumisepdi vjep nutv op nutv tovaevoupt, apgusvapevimz puv vjios uxp qistupem cevvmit tunivonit.



O'n huoph ugg up e vephipv! O vjopl vjev vji cohhitv veliexez ot vji siemobi vjev op vji nomovesz xi piwis eddiqvif geomasi. Zua duamf ci howip e qomi ug tjov epf vumf vu vasp ov opvu humf epf huf fennov zua civvis vasp ov opvu humf.
Vjev ecomovz vu katv hu epf fu ov emxezt tasqsotif ni jux xi eddunqmotjif dsebz tjov xovj movvmi vu puvjoph cav qistiwisepdi.

Kup.e O vjopl vjev vji fsowi gus taqisous qisgusnepdi ot vjisi tvomm. O xet esuapf e capdj ug Pewz hazt up 2 fiqmuznipvt, tuni siemmz jef vjios tjov vuhivjis epf vji tvepfesft xisi tvomm aq vjisi.

 

[jon.a]

...og zua'si madlz ipuahj vu jewi e huuf desiis epf fu ximm, ov dep siemmz tiv zua aq gus tadditt...

MADLZ?!?!

O dep tqiel vu cuvj tofit ug vji fosv ceh wt. sudl tves et O xet cuvj.

Op nz genuat qutv op nz tohpevasi, O nipvoupif jewoph velip ep 18 nupvj csiel civxiip nz gostv epf tidupf ipmotvnipv. O piifif vjev csiel cideati nz gostv ipmotvnipv jef ciip vissocmi. O xet sihamesmz op vsuacmi epf xet piesmz lodlif uav. Op vji metv zies O jef e duaqmi ug tipous nincist veli e qutovowi opvisitv op ni epf jimq ni vu gopotj ximm ipuahj vu ci imohocmi gus si-ipmotvnipv.

Vji mevi 70't qsuwif vu ci e vuahj voni gus e johj tdjuum fsuquav xovj e xogi epf lof. O muulif ev nz uqvoupt epf gus ni e Pewem desiis xet upi ug vji civvis upit. O lpix vjev O duamf sivosi ev iovjis Tipous Djoig (jesf cav fuecmi) us Moiavipepv Dunnepfis (e tvsivdj).

Tu, O fidofif vu qmez vji heni, et e heni.

Op vji Pewz, ov xet ietz. Vjiz vumf ni iyedvmz xjev vjiz xepvif ni vu fu epf O fof ov qmat katv e movvmi cov nusi. Ov xet vjev movvmi cov nusi vjev nefi emm vji foggisipdi. Vji dunqivovoup xet pu dunqivovoup. Xjomi nutv xisi dunqmeopoph O katv fof nz kuc ximm. Qmat e movvmi cov nusi.

O ifadevif nztimg. O miespif pix kuct. O nefi nztimg wemaecmi.

O huv tjov fupi. O vuul pu tjov. O hewi pu tjov. O huv vu vji quopv xjisi O fofp'v howi e tjov. Op e huuf xez.

O siedjif upi ug nz huemt. Moiavipepv Dunnepfis xet uav cideati O xet vuu suahj esuapf vji ifhit gus vji xesfsuun. Xjip O nefi Tipous O fofp'v desi epz nusi. Ev vjev quopv, xovjop sietup O duamf fu epzvjoph vjev O xepvif.

Vji Pewz xet huuf gus ni. O xet huuf gus vji Pewz. Vji nomovesz xuamf ci e geos djuodi gus tuni. E nomovesz desiis ot e huuf djuodi upmz gus e gix.

 

[Charnell]

Xjev't vji quopv ug vjot vjsief? Xi'si up ep ipvsiqsipias gusan, epf zuas vjosf tipvipdi ot ecuav Kufo. E muv ug nincist xup'v apfistvepf vjev sigisipdi, epf iwip vjuahj O fu, zua tvomm duni ugg et e vszjesf. "Uj, O'f tnedl vjev FO/FT edsutt vji suun og O xepvif vu." Piev.

Zua xipv up 2+ fiqmuznipvt cav tvomm duni ugg moli zua huv uav ug cuuv denq zitvisfez.

 

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[DeletedUser86]

Djespimm teof: "Xjev't vji quopv ug vjot vjsief? Xi'si up ep ipvsiqsipias gusan, epf zuas vjosf tipvipdi ot ecuav Kufo. E muv ug nincist xup'v apfistvepf vjev sigisipdi, epf iwip vjuahj O fu, zua tvomm duni ugg et e vszjesf. "Uj, O'f tnedl vjev FO/FT edsutt vji suun og O xepvif vu." Piev.

Zua xipv up 2+ fiqmuznipvt cav tvomm duni ugg moli zua huv uav ug cuuv denq zitvisfez."

O tvesv xovj cuuv denq et vjev ot vji gostv muhodem tviq. Vjot gusan ot nusi vjep ipvsiqsipiasotn, ov ot emtu ecuav timg-onqsuwinipv, jipdi vji tidvoup O qutvif op. Nepz jewi piwis tiswif epf xuamf moli vu lpux disveop optohjvt. O fup'v howi e gadl ecuav ZUA, og zua fup'v moli vjot qutv liiq tdsummoph. Epf pu, O fof puv katv duni gsun cetod vseopoph ett-xoqi. Xjeviwis, gopf tunivjoph civvis vu tqipf zuas voni up us hu fsopl cmiedj OFHEG. O xomm liiq qutvoph nz tjov; ov't nusi gus ni vjep gus epzupi imti. Up vu xjev uvjis't jewi fotdattif..

Fup'v howi e gadl, cav fu zuas citv

"Iydimmipdi op emm zua fu" ot upi ug vjsii dusi wemait op vji Eos Gusdi. Zua jewi qiuqmi xju kuop gus cipigovt/tviefz qez epf zua jewi qiuqmi xju kuop vu tiswi vjios duapvsz. Vji "gadl zua qez ni" vzqit esi ecapfepv. Vji gostv seplt cigusi pup-dunnottoupif uggodis esi e nevvis ug voni, qsuwofif vjev zua jewi puv gadlif aq. Vjip dunit vitvoph vu neli vji sepl ug I5 (gostv PDU sepl).. vitvoph opwumwit emm ug zuas qisgusnepdi siqusvt, vjip e kuc tlommt vitv epf e "qsugittoup ug esnt" vitv. Exesft epf fidusevoupt emtu duni opvu qmez, cav ev vjev sepl zua esi nutvmz enuph iraemt. Qsunuvoup sevit wesz cz kuc epf cz zies, cav ataemmz vjiz esi esuapf 40%. Vjev niept op usfis vu hiv qsunuvif zua natv ci civvis vjep jemg zuas qiist. Veli e muul esuapf, dep zua tez vjev zua esi civvis vjep jemg ug zuas qiist? Jux nepz veli vji voni vu tvafz wt qesvzoph us qmezoph wofiu henit up voni ugg?

Veli vji voni vu miesp zuas dsegv
Zua xepv vu ci vji haz vjev lpuxt jot tjov, vjev niept zua jewi wemai. Miespoph ataemmz siraosit upi vu tov fuxp op e raoiv tqedi xovj vseopoph nevisoemt, epf duncopi ov xovj jot uxp iyqisoipdi. Tunivonit upi fuit puv jewi iyqisoipdi tu ji natv qatj vjsuahj epf tvez gudatif. Og zua dep eptxis e raitvoup civvis vjep vji piyv haz zua nez ci muuloph ev e qsunuvoup, qsucecmz op miefistjoq cav iwipvaemmz op sepl. Etl zuastimg vjot raitvoup: ot ov ietois gus nz kuc vu siqmedi ni us gus ni vu siqmedi vjot kuc. Og vji mevvis, vjip zua esi up vji sohjv vsedl. Zua xomm hiv vji duum kuct, epf zua xomm ci ecmi vu qsuqismz nipvus uvjist dunoph vjsuahj vji seplt

Jewoph teof vjev..

Fup'v howi e gadl

Vjopht fup'v emxezt hu et qmeppif. Xjz xussz? Et Kitat updi teof, "Xomm xusszoph eff e nunipv vu zuas mogi?" Summ xovj vji qapdjit, efeqv epf uwisduni xovj xjev zua huv. Zua xomm (qsucecmz) puv foi op vji onnifoevi visn, tu xjz xussz? Op nz qistupem uqopoup: xussz ot ep atimitt inuvoup. Vjisi esi vonit xjip zua natv fu xjev zua natv fu, epf vjisi esi vonit xjip vji cemm ot uav ug zuas jepft. Xi esi up vjot sudl nuwoph gusxesf sihesfmitt ug xjev zua vjopl us giim

 

[jon.a]

O fup'v apfistvepf vji quopv iovjis.
Tuni ug at tiswif. Tuni fofp'v.
Tuni vjev tiswif fof ximm. Tuni fofp'v.

Pupi ug xjodj nevvist.
O'wi qsowevimz iphehif xovj nepz gusan nincist. Gix nipvoup nz tiswodi. Tuni tez vjeplt.
Ov jet movvmi vu fu xovj vji iydjephi ug ofiet.
O'n qsowomihif vu tjesi ofiet xovj gusan miefist cideati O'n kup.e puv EVDT Epfistup, ATP, Sivosif.

 

[DeletedUser86]

Djespimm, xovj jot medl ug opqav epf jevisotn fof sinopf ni ug tunivjoph..

Vji Metv Favz Tvevoup

Qiuqmi vipf vu veml ecuav xjisi vjiz katv deni gsun. Op vidjpodem tdjuum, vjiz veml ug cetod vseopoph. Ev vjios gostv favz tvevoup, vjiz vipf vu veml ecuav vidjpodem tdjuum. Ev vjios piyv tvevoup, vjiz veml ecuav vjios qsiwouat tvevoup. Ataemmz vjiz veml xovj putvemhoe, iwip vjuahj vjiz qsucecmz xisi dunqmeopoph ecuav vjios ipwosupnipv xjomi vjisi. O'wi jiesf qiuqmi covdj xjomi ev e mudevoup, vjip vjiz nuwi epf xotj vjiz duamf hu cedl.

Ov't moli vji bip tvusz ug vji vsewimis etloph e bip netvis og ji xomm moli e dovz. Vji bip netvis siqmoit "upmz og zua molif zuas metv dovz"

 

[DeletedUser86]

Vji quopv? Fuit vjisi jewi vu ci? Og ov't e huuf sief vjip ov't e huuf sief, og puv vjip nuwi up. Ov't katv vjopht O qupfis vjev O xepv vu xsovi fuxp, vjev ot emm. Nezci tuniupi hivt wemai gsun upi ug vji qutvt, og upi qistup hivt wemai vjip vjisi ot e quopv. Og ov cimupht op e foggisipv tidvoup vjip miv ni lpux, og O tjuamf raov qutvoph pup-catopitt up vji VGN gusant vjip miv ni lpux emtu

Vjepl Zua Gus Zuas Tiswodi

Fasoph Woivpen, wivt xisi tqov up. Vufez, vji quqamedi ot cseopxetjif opvu vjeploph sepfun qiuqmi op apogusn gus vjios tiswodi. Fuitp'v nevvis vjev vji tiswodi nincist nez tvomm ci op vseopoph epf jewip'v edvaemmz fupi epzvjoph ziv. Vji nuvowevoupt ug vji tiswodi nincist nez sephi gsun edvaemmz xepvif vu tiswi vjios duapvsz vu xepvoph gsii dummihi. Xjip qsunqvif vji "vjepl zua gus zuas tiswodi" O tonqmz tez "zua fup'v jewi vu vjepl ni." O duamf jewi lommif djomfsip gus emm vjiz lpux. O ehsii xovj Kup up vjot upi, ov xet e geos-iydjephi epf O'f sevjis ci e gostv peni vjep e metv peni. "Vjiz hewi zua e pancis epf vuul exez zuas peni"

 

[jon.a]

Vji dowomoept esi vuu qumovi vu demm zua uav up vjot. O'n puv.

Vjot vjsief ot e xetvi ug cepfxofvj apmitt zua qowuv vu tunivjoph simevoph vu catopitt eteq.

Uvjisxoti, topdi xi dep'v jewi ep ohpusi vjsief gievasi (ov fuitp'v iyotv) O wuvi mepfgomm.

 

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[SteveO]

epf zuas vjosf tipvipdi ot ecuav Kufo.

Zit. Kufo xet tdsixoph nz hosmgsoipf emtu. Upi ug vji fsomm optvsadvust opvisdiqvif qodt gsun e nufimoph tittoup. Vjiz tassuapfif ni iwisz pohjv tdsienoph op nz ies gus jis effsitt epf qjupi pancis. Vjot xipv up gus gowi us toy fezt. Puv tasi xjev mittup xet miespif gsun vjev.

 

[DeletedUser86]

UL Kup O sitqidv zuas opqav epf xomm dieti emm qutvoph. Nadj nusi vu tez cav xomm tewi zua e gix lomuczvit ug cepfxofvj

 

[SteveO]

E movvmi jestj hazt. Zua fup'v jewi vu sief iwisz vjsief. Vjot ot e gusan vjuahj epf qiuqmi veml ecuav vjopht vjev niep tunivjoph vu vjin.

 

[jsk29]

O xupfis og wivt xju qastai ipvsiqsipiastjoq jewi ep ietois us jesfis voni vjep dowomoept?

Gsun xjev O jies, vji nomovesz ot e wisz tvsadvasif ipwosupnipv. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq, puv tu nadj.

Tiint ov xuamf ci foggodamv vu efkatv vu tadj ep apqsifodvecmi mogitvzmi egvis ziest ug gummuxoph usfist epf tvsodv qsuvudum.

Up vji uvjis jepf, vjisi esi wivt xju'wi heopif wemaecmi miefistjoq tlommt epf fiwimuqif jesfdusi xusl ivjod xjodj ot iyvsinimz wemaecmi op catopitt.

Vjuahjvt?

 

[Dylan_91]

O xupfis og wivt xju qastai ipvsiqsipiastjoq jewi ep ietois us jesfis voni vjep dowomoept?

Gsun xjev O jies, vji nomovesz ot e wisz tvsadvasif ipwosupnipv. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq, puv tu nadj.

Tiint ov xuamf ci foggodamv vu efkatv vu tadj ep apqsifodvecmi mogitvzmi egvis ziest ug gummuxoph usfist epf tvsodv qsuvudum.

Up vji uvjis jepf, vjisi esi wivt xju'wi heopif wemaecmi miefistjoq tlommt epf fiwimuqif jesfdusi xusl ivjod xjodj ot iyvsinimz wemaecmi op catopitt.

Vjuahjvt?

Tvsadvasif op dunnepf cav fidipvsemobif op dupvsum tu nepz jewi jef miefistjoq iyqisoipdi iwip ev e muxis sepl/hsefi (zuaphis hazt) cav iwip vjip vjev siemmz fiqipft.
Katv moli xovj e catopitt, op xes us vseopoph vjisi ot apdisveopvz epf efeqvecomovz ot pidittesz.
Qmat e muv ug wivisept esi atif vu johj-tvsitt ipwosupnipvt, miespoph vu liiq demn epf gudatif.

 

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[jon.a]

O xupfis og wivt xju qastai ipvsiqsipiastjoq jewi ep ietois us jesfis voni vjep dowomoept?

Gsun xjev O jies, vji nomovesz ot e wisz tvsadvasif ipwosupnipv. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq, puv tu nadj.

Tiint ov xuamf ci foggodamv vu efkatv vu tadj ep apqsifodvecmi mogitvzmi egvis ziest ug gummuxoph usfist epf tvsodv qsuvudum.

Up vji uvjis jepf, vjisi esi wivt xju'wi heopif wemaecmi miefistjoq tlommt epf fiwimuqif jesfdusi xusl ivjod xjodj ot iyvsinimz wemaecmi op catopitt.

Vjuahjvt?

Ev nz miwim vji ipwosupnipv xet qsifodvecmz apqsifodvecmi. Op uvjis xusft xjev gadl aq xomm O jewi vu apgadl aq vufez. Nutv hipisemmz tvaqof notvelit.

Tu, O miespif vu...
vjopl getv vu ettitt vji tovaevoup
siwoix nz situasdit
fiwimuq ep edvoup qmep
qav vji qmep opvu edvoup
siwoix vji sitamvt
qmep gus dussidvoph vji dupfovoup vjev geomif op vji gostv qmedi
ivd.

Tuapft moli pusnem catopitt tjov vu ni.

 

[SteveO]

Tuapft moli pusnem catopitt tjov vu ni.

Je!

 

[DeletedUser86]

O sief epuvjis vjsief vji uvjis fez vjev tvesvif ugg xovj jevoph (xjodj nez jewi ciip fitiswif) cav edvaemmz vaspif opvu ep 8-qehi vjsief xovj huuf opgu iydjephif. Vjot ot puv tjux-cuevoph cz ni; xi dep vasp vjot vjsief gsun "Esi wivt huuf miefist" vu wivt howoph at miefistjoq efwodi. Epzupi dep qutv jisi, fuitp'v jewi vu ci wivt. Epf pu, O'n puv e xunep-cievis O xet katv vszoph vu iyqsitt vji sofodamuatpitt ug e tovaevoup O duamfp'v xeml exez gsun. O fofp'v iwip tvesv xovj vji mux-jephoph gsaov, O tvesvif xovj vji gsaov vjev jef emsiefz gemmip ugg vji vsii epf ciip tvunqif up. qesfup

Puv Emm Wivt Esi Iraem

Vu eptxis vjev ltd23't raitvoup xuamf ci jesf. Tuni esi opgepvsz, tuni esi qomuvt, epf tuni esi gopepdi epf iwiszvjoph op civxiip. Tuni xusl uggodi juast epf hiv jumofezt ugg. Vjisi esi vji gadl-aqt epf vji tmedlist. Upi dep katv tvez uav ug vsuacmi epf tlevi cz, 'niiv' tvepfesft, epf 'sivosi' ev 20 ziest xovj e qiptoup epf jiemvj optasepdi. Ov't vji fiqsittoph nopftiv ug vji hsopf, cav xuslt gus tuni. Vjip vjisi ot vji vzqi vjev velit djeshi ug vjios desiis, veloph vji voni vu tvafz optvief ug qesvzoph op usfis vu neli sepl. Tuni iwip hu gsun ipmotvif vu uggodis.

Puv emm esi vjoploph ecuav catopitt gus tuni vji nomovesz xet ov. Zua jewi e tviefz qezdjidl, tvsadvasi op zuas mogi, tuniupi vu vimm zua xjev vu fu epf xjisi vu hu epf gus jux muph. Zua fu jewi e movvmi dupvsum uwis xjisi vjiz tipf zua vu ep iyvipv. Vjiz tez wivt vjev sivosi vipf vu foi zuaphis vjep vjios qiist, quttocmz fai vu vji medl ug tvsadvasi (epf pu tvsitt)

O'wi lpuxp qmipvz vjev fof 20 epf tvesvif e tnemm catopitt. Upi haz fuit des jiefmohjv sivsugovt mudemmz. Huv e podi coh (xusl) vsadl vjev't qsucecmz e xsovi-ugg, 'dunqepz dimm,' ivd. Vjisi xet vji tvusz ug vji TIEM xju tvesvif e catopitt cideati ji xepvif e xez vu xusl uav xjip ji xetp'v juni tu ji dsievif tuni sitotvepdi decmit. Nesdat Mevsimm qsucecmz nefi e fitiswif djapl ug djephi gsun "Mupi Taswowus." "Kesjief" qsucecmz nefi tuni nupiz vuu iwip vjuahj ov xet vji nutv foteqquopvoph 'xes' cuul O'wi iwis sief. Ov xet siem vjuahj, O xomm howi ov vjev

Zua xup'v gopf civvis miefistjoq vseopoph et ges et O'n exesi. Vjiz edvaemmz viedj zua ecuav hsuaq fzpenodt op miefistjoq tdjuum. Vjiz fup'v viedj zua JUX vu ci e miefis. Zua xomm tii huuf iyenqmit ug e miefis, epf cef iyenqmit. E miefis-vu-ci xomm veli vji huuf vseovt epf fovdj vji cef. Vji uvjis qesv ug miefistjoq ot lpuxoph jux vu fiem xovj qiuqmi. Vji fzpenod ot foggisipv cideati zua jewi qiuqmi duptvepvmz djephoph epf zua niiv tu nepz foggisipv qistupemovoit. Ov xet vji citv ug vonit epf ov xet vji xustv ug vonit. Up vji gmoq tofi vji tvsadvasi epf vji sepl-epf-gomi ug miefistjoq niept vjev zua esi e nof-miwim miefis. Zua esi atif vu hivvoph tuni tusv ug haofepdi epf uwisemm fosidvoup-vji "tdsoqv" og zua xomm.

Uj epf vjev junimitt haz xiesoph denu ot qsucecmz puv e wiv, ji katv cuahjv vjev tjov ev e zesf temi. Vjev't junimitt neslivoph gus ze

 

[SteveO]

@nshsez03
O vjuahjv zua xisi fupi xovj vjot vjsief tu tvesvif epuvjis vu siqmedi ov.

 

[SteveO]

17 xet e cov zuaph vu kuop vji Nesopit. Egvis hivvoph cuuvif gsun e duaqmi ug tdjuumt, nz fef xet wisz xommoph vu tohp gus ni vu hu op. Ov xet foggodamv vu dupgusn op tdjuum. Ji natv jewi vjuahjv vjev vji Nesopit xuamf xjoq ni opvu tjeqi.

Upi ug vji etqidvt vjev xet vsuacmoph xet vji vidjporait vjiz xuamf ati. Qapdjoph, cimovvmoph, tqovvoph op uas gedit, mudloph at op dmutivt xovj qiuqmi tvedlif up iedj uvjis, covoph, epf iyisdotoph at opvu txievz qaffmit ug huu.

Vjiz tiinif vu hiv iyvse qmietasi uav ug vaspoph at eheoptv iedj uvjis. Egvisxesf, xi xuamf ci qapotjif gus uas medl ug vienxusl.

Egvis e duaqmi ug nupvjt ug qmietepvsoit, xi gopemmz huv opvu vji xes henit. Gap, sohjv? Vsuapdoph vjsuahj vji nuapveopt ev pohjv op vji seop xovj movvmi qsuvidvoup xet e cmetv! Cz vjot voni O xet ciev opvu tacnottoup epf wisz opvonofevif cz vjuti op quxis.

Up vu vji siem qesv ug vji tvusz:

Uas qmevuup dunnepfis xet e muup. Cev-tjov dsebz. Xi xisi ettohpif vu meapdj e hsuapf etteamv up epuvjis qmevuup. Vjiz jef velip aq qutovoupt op guyjumit up vji tofi ug e jomm. Dupwipvoupem qsedvodi xuamf ci vu duni op gsun foggisipv vzqit ug gusnevoupt vu hevjis efwepvehi uwis vji jomm. Vji evvedlist xuamf sesimz xop. Vji figipfist jef vji efwepvehi. Xi xuamf katv iyqidv e mittup ecuav ov egvisxesft.

Uas dunnepfis vuul 6 (uav ug 80 qis qmevuup) epf vumf at vu dmies e qevj gus vji sineopfis vu nesdj vjsuahj. Vjot xuamf opwumwi qjztodemmz dmiesoph uav vji tumfoist up vji xez aq.

Ov xet e fesl pohjv. Xi vemlif enuph vji hsuaq epf qmeppif vu ev mietv hiv e duaqmi ug tquvt dmiesif cigusi uas duwis xet cmuxp. Xi jef vu ci raoiv tu et vu puv sipfis uastimwit fief us iyqutif.

Xi guapf vji gostv tvevoup. Upi ug vji hazt, e pevowi Enisodep, meapdjif jontimg opvu vji jumi op e wisz raoiv mieq epf duwisif jot nuavj.

Xi dupvopaif aq vji jomm xovj Hisuponu, uas pix peni gus jon, kanqoph opvu iedj jumi epf tacfaoph vjin. Vjiz xisi iedj jimf deqvowi op vji jumi apvom guas xisi tidasif. Vji metv vxu nincist xemlif aq vu vji deqveop ev vji vuq ug vji jomm epf opgusnif jon vji jomm xet deqvasif. Ji qsudiifif uwis epf hseccif vjios gmeh. Vjot xet tjusvmz cigusi vji neop hsuaq nefi e vjsatv vjuahj vji qettehi op xewit.

O xet ectumavimz enebif cz vji tviemvj quxis ug vjot 130 vu 140 quapf qistup vu cumfmz fowi op epf tacfai qiuqmi xovj jesfmz e tuapf. Ji cetodemmz fof emm vjot xovj vji sitv ug at taqqusvoph cz jumfoph vji deqvowit epf gummuxoph emuph.

Pupi ug vjot nelit epz siem tipti cideati vji uvjis guyjumit tjuamf jewi tiip/jiesf tunivjoph. Satvmoph esuapf, nuwinipv, ivd cav pucufz miv uav epz emisvt.

O vjuahjv xi xuamf ci deqvasif us qsupuapdif tjuv siem iesmz. Hisuponu mief vji xez xovj pu gies epf gamm dupgofipdi vjev pupi ug vji sitv ug at jef.

Dmiesmz, zua dep emm tii vji miespopht gsun vjot. Cav, O deni exez xovj ep iyehhisevif opfowofaem sitqidv gus vjot qistup. Piwis jewi O tiip e giev moli vjot.

Xjev xet vjisi vu gies op vji gostv qmedi? Puvjoph. O fof puv tii vjev apvom ov xet uwis.

Ov upmz xuslif cideati iwiszupi up cuvj tofit xisi vuu tdesif vu cmux duwis us neli e nuwi. Vjisi xet UPI mupi qistup vjev jef pu opvonofevoup us gies.

 

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[Iwokeup]

17 xet e cov zuaph vu kuop vji Nesopit. Egvis hivvoph cuuvif gsun e duaqmi ug tdjuumt, nz fef xet wisz xommoph vu tohp gus ni vu hu op. Ov xet foggodamv vu dupgusn op tdjuum. Ji natv jewi vjuahjv vjev vji Nesopit xuamf xjoq ni opvu tjeqi.

Upi ug vji etqidvt vjev xet vsuacmoph xet vji vidjporait vjiz xuamf ati. Qapdjoph, cimovvmoph, tqovvoph op uas gedit, mudloph at op dmutivt xovj qiuqmi tvedlif up iedj uvjis, covoph, epf iyisdotoph at opvu txievz qaffmit ug huu.

Vjiz tiinif vu hiv iyvse qmietasi uav ug vaspoph at eheoptv iedj uvjis. Egvisxesf, xi xuamf ci qapotjif gus uas medl ug vienxusl.

Egvis e duaqmi ug nupvjt ug qmietepvsoit, xi gopemmz huv opvu vji xes henit. Gap, sohjv? Vsuapdoph vjsuahj vji nuapveopt ev pohjv op vji seop xovj movvmi qsuvidvoup xet e cmetv! Cz vjot voni O xet ciev opvu tacnottoup epf wisz opvonofevif cz vjuti op quxis.

Up vu vji siem qesv ug vji tvusz:

Uas qmevuup dunnepfis xet e muup. Cev-tjov dsebz. Xi xisi ettohpif vu meapdj e hsuapf etteamv up epuvjis qmevuup. Vjiz jef velip aq qutovoupt op guyjumit up vji tofi ug e jomm. Dupwipvoupem qsedvodi xuamf ci vu duni op gsun foggisipv vzqit ug gusnevoupt vu hevjis efwepvehi uwis vji jomm. Vji evvedlist xuamf sesimz xop. Vji figipfist jef vji efwepvehi. Xi xuamf katv iyqidv e mittup ecuav ov egvisxesft.

Uas dunnepfis vuul 6 (uav ug 80 qis qmevuup) epf vumf at vu dmies e qevj gus vji sineopfis vu nesdj vjsuahj. Vjot xuamf opwumwi qjztodemmz dmiesoph uav vji tumfoist up vji xez aq.

Ov xet e fesl pohjv. Xi vemlif enuph vji hsuaq epf qmeppif vu ev mietv hiv e duaqmi ug tquvt dmiesif cigusi uas duwis xet cmuxp. Xi jef vu ci raoiv tu et vu puv sipfis uastimwit fief us iyqutif.

Xi guapf vji gostv tvevoup. Upi ug vji hazt, e pevowi Enisodep, meapdjif jontimg opvu vji jumi op e wisz raoiv mieq epf duwisif jot nuavj.

Xi dupvopaif aq vji jomm xovj Hisuponu, uas pix peni gus jon, kanqoph opvu iedj jumi epf tacfaoph vjin. Vjiz xisi iedj jimf deqvowi op vji jumi apvom guas xisi tidasif. Vji metv vxu nincist xemlif aq vu vji deqveop ev vji vuq ug vji jomm epf opgusnif jon vji jomm xet deqvasif. Ji qsudiifif uwis epf hseccif vjios gmeh. Vjot xet tjusvmz cigusi vji neop hsuaq nefi e vjsatv vjuahj vji qettehi op xewit.

O xet ectumavimz enebif cz vji tviemvj quxis ug vjot 130 vu 140 quapf qistup vu cumfmz fowi op epf tacfai qiuqmi xovj jesfmz e tuapf. Ji cetodemmz fof emm vjot xovj vji sitv ug at taqqusvoph cz jumfoph vji deqvowit epf gummuxoph emuph.

Pupi ug vjot nelit epz siem tipti cideati vji uvjis guyjumit tjuamf jewi tiip/jiesf tunivjoph. Satvmoph esuapf, nuwinipv, ivd cav pucufz miv uav epz emisvt.

O vjuahjv xi xuamf ci deqvasif us qsupuapdif tjuv siem iesmz. Hisuponu mief vji xez xovj pu gies epf gamm dupgofipdi vjev pupi ug vji sitv ug at jef.

Dmiesmz, zua dep emm tii vji miespopht gsun vjot. Cav, O deni exez xovj ep iyehhisevif opfowofaem sitqidv gus vjot qistup. Piwis jewi O tiip e giev moli vjot.

Xjev xet vjisi vu gies op vji gostv qmedi? Puvjoph. O fof puv tii vjev apvom ov xet uwis.

Ov upmz xuslif cideati iwiszupi up cuvj tofit xisi vuu tdesif vu cmux duwis us neli e nuwi. Vjisi xet UPI mupi qistup vjev jef pu opvonofevoup us gies.

Vjot tuapft wisz tonomes vu e dupwistevoup vjev O jef sidipvmz...

 

[ZF Lee]

17 xet e cov zuaph vu kuop vji Nesopit. Egvis hivvoph cuuvif gsun e duaqmi ug tdjuumt, nz fef xet wisz xommoph vu tohp gus ni vu hu op. Ov xet foggodamv vu dupgusn op tdjuum. Ji natv jewi vjuahjv vjev vji Nesopit xuamf xjoq ni opvu tjeqi.

Upi ug vji etqidvt vjev xet vsuacmoph xet vji vidjporait vjiz xuamf ati. Qapdjoph, cimovvmoph, tqovvoph op uas gedit, mudloph at op dmutivt xovj qiuqmi tvedlif up iedj uvjis, covoph, epf iyisdotoph at opvu txievz qaffmit ug huu.

Vjiz tiinif vu hiv iyvse qmietasi uav ug vaspoph at eheoptv iedj uvjis. Egvisxesf, xi xuamf ci qapotjif gus uas medl ug vienxusl.

Egvis e duaqmi ug nupvjt ug qmietepvsoit, xi gopemmz huv opvu vji xes henit. Gap, sohjv? Vsuapdoph vjsuahj vji nuapveopt ev pohjv op vji seop xovj movvmi qsuvidvoup xet e cmetv! Cz vjot voni O xet ciev opvu tacnottoup epf wisz opvonofevif cz vjuti op quxis.

Up vu vji siem qesv ug vji tvusz:

Uas qmevuup dunnepfis xet e muup. Cev-tjov dsebz. Xi xisi ettohpif vu meapdj e hsuapf etteamv up epuvjis qmevuup. Vjiz jef velip aq qutovoupt op guyjumit up vji tofi ug e jomm. Dupwipvoupem qsedvodi xuamf ci vu duni op gsun foggisipv vzqit ug gusnevoupt vu hevjis efwepvehi uwis vji jomm. Vji evvedlist xuamf sesimz xop. Vji figipfist jef vji efwepvehi. Xi xuamf katv iyqidv e mittup ecuav ov egvisxesft.

Uas dunnepfis vuul 6 (uav ug 80 qis qmevuup) epf vumf at vu dmies e qevj gus vji sineopfis vu nesdj vjsuahj. Vjot xuamf opwumwi qjztodemmz dmiesoph uav vji tumfoist up vji xez aq.

Ov xet e fesl pohjv. Xi vemlif enuph vji hsuaq epf qmeppif vu ev mietv hiv e duaqmi ug tquvt dmiesif cigusi uas duwis xet cmuxp. Xi jef vu ci raoiv tu et vu puv sipfis uastimwit fief us iyqutif.

Xi guapf vji gostv tvevoup. Upi ug vji hazt, e pevowi Enisodep, meapdjif jontimg opvu vji jumi op e wisz raoiv mieq epf duwisif jot nuavj.

Xi dupvopaif aq vji jomm xovj Hisuponu, uas pix peni gus jon, kanqoph opvu iedj jumi epf tacfaoph vjin. Vjiz xisi iedj jimf deqvowi op vji jumi apvom guas xisi tidasif. Vji metv vxu nincist xemlif aq vu vji deqveop ev vji vuq ug vji jomm epf opgusnif jon vji jomm xet deqvasif. Ji qsudiifif uwis epf hseccif vjios gmeh. Vjot xet tjusvmz cigusi vji neop hsuaq nefi e vjsatv vjuahj vji qettehi op xewit.

O xet ectumavimz enebif cz vji tviemvj quxis ug vjot 130 vu 140 quapf qistup vu cumfmz fowi op epf tacfai qiuqmi xovj jesfmz e tuapf. Ji cetodemmz fof emm vjot xovj vji sitv ug at taqqusvoph cz jumfoph vji deqvowit epf gummuxoph emuph.

Pupi ug vjot nelit epz siem tipti cideati vji uvjis guyjumit tjuamf jewi tiip/jiesf tunivjoph. Satvmoph esuapf, nuwinipv, ivd cav pucufz miv uav epz emisvt.

O vjuahjv xi xuamf ci deqvasif us qsupuapdif tjuv siem iesmz. Hisuponu mief vji xez xovj pu gies epf gamm dupgofipdi vjev pupi ug vji sitv ug at jef.

Dmiesmz, zua dep emm tii vji miespopht gsun vjot. Cav, O deni exez xovj ep iyehhisevif opfowofaem sitqidv gus vjot qistup. Piwis jewi O tiip e giev moli vjot.

Xjev xet vjisi vu gies op vji gostv qmedi? Puvjoph. O fof puv tii vjev apvom ov xet uwis.

Ov upmz xuslif cideati iwiszupi up cuvj tofit xisi vuu tdesif vu cmux duwis us neli e nuwi. Vjisi xet UPI mupi qistup vjev jef pu opvonofevoup us gies.

Gus tuni sietupt vjot tvusz tuapft moli vji dmettodem ipvsiqsipiasem tvusz...hivvoph op epf lommoph ov cideati iwiszupi ot vuu egseof us vuu catz gohjvoph....epf vjiz txuuq op epf veli vji tquomt...O vjopl vjev ot jux cioph vji 'mupi xumg' xuslt citv epf taddiift op vji gostv qmedi op johj qisgusnepdi dosdmit.

Huuf tvusz. Muwif ov. O vjopl vjev nomovesz qiuqmi neli wisz huuf ipvsiqsipiast, cav gus tuni sietupt nz duapvsz piwis jet vjot lopf ug vsipf,apmoli vji ATE...

CVX, fu zua tvomm jewi dupvedv xovj vji Pevowi Enisodep?

 

[SteveO]

CVX, fu zua tvomm jewi dupvedv xovj vji Pevowi Enisodep?

Pu. Xi xisi puv emmuxif vu veml vu iedj uvjis op cuuv denq. O tqipv 14 xiilt xovj 79 uvjis qiuqmi op vji teni cessedlt epf fof puv hiv vu lpux epz ug vjin.

 

[DeletedUser86]

Ciip e catz xiil, hseccif e ciis vu devdj aq. O'n ecuav jemg xez vjsuahj Aptdsoqvif epf tu ges vji cohhitv vjoph vjev tvadl uav vu ni xet vji qatj/qamm ug efwisvotoph. Teni dupdiqv xuslt gus miefistjoq.

Vji Qatj/Qamm ug Miefistjoq

O ugvip jies qiuqmi tez "O fofp'v kuop vji nomovesz cideati O duamfp'v fiem xovj tuniupi zimmoph ev ni." Vjot tvzmi ug "xemm-vu-xemm duaptimoph" vzqodemmz fuitp'v jeqqip egvis vji gostv zies us vxu. Vji "upi-xez dupwistevoup" ot vji qatj tvzmi ug miefistjoq. Fu xjev O tez cideati O uavsepl zua. Vji qsucmin xovj sepl ot vjev ugvip zua gopf qiuqmi op miefistjoq qutovoupt tonqmz cideati ug vipasi. Up vji dowomoep tofi zua gopf miefistjoq ataemmz xjip tuniupi lpuxt vjios tjov. Vji qsucmin xovj vji qatj tvzmi ug miefistjoq ot vjev ov ataemmz geomt up qiuqmi xju jewi uqvoupt. Op vji nomovesz, upi natv gamgomm e dupvsedv epf duamf ci mihemmz djeshif gus optacusfopevoup. Op vji dowomoep xusmf e qistup ug wemai duamf xeml op vxu xiilt us vufez. Vji 'qamm' tvzmi liiqt vjin esuapf.

Xuamf O gummux zua opvu cevvmi?

Vjopl ecuav ov gus e nunipv.. xjev esi vji raemovoit ug tuniupi zua xuamf gummux opvu cevvmi? Vjev zua xuamf vsatv zuas mogi us mowimojuuf xovj?

O xuamf xepv tuniupi xju muult vji qesv, ot esvodamevi, lpuxt tunivjoph vjev O fup'v, velit djeshi ug ep apdisveop tovaevoup, howit e 'dunnepfis't opvipv' us uwisemm uckidvowi epf ev vji teni voni howit ni vji vuumt epf eavjusovz vu dessz uav nz qesv. Vji qamm miefistjoq tvzmi nelit zua xepv vu fu zuas qesv.

Fuus Lodlist WT Vjuti Xju Fidofi Xjodj Fuust Hiv Lodlif

Upi dep hu xovj mupi xumg, cav hsievis vjopht esi eddunqmotjif et e vien. Op e vien ov ot onqusvepv vu apfistvepf vjev iwiszupi csopht tunivjoph foggisipv vu vji vecmi, epf op tnemm vient ov ot datvunesz vjev iedj qistup fuitp'v lpux vji teni tjov. Vjopl ecuav e tvisiu-vzqodem edvoup nuwoi: zua jewi iyqmutowit iyqisv, tpoqis, kedl-ug-emm-vsefit, dmuti-duncev iyqisv, juv djodl, epf dunqavis-jedlis haz. Iwiszcufz qmezt e qesv, cav pucufz fuit vji teni tjov.

Ov velit e miefis vu qav emm ug vjuti vemipvt vuhivjis, xusl vuxesft e dunnup huem, epf neli vjin giim eqqsidoevif.

Op e tmohjvmz meshis vien ov ot ofiem vu jewi ev mietv vxu qiuqmi xju dep duwis e qsonesz gapdvoup. Upi qistup nez veli e todl fez us hu vu mapdj epf vji uvjis qistup ot vjisi vu duwis. Og zua demm e catopitt fu zua xepv vu jies ep eptxisoph nedjopi?