The Active Forex Traders Discussion

[Maxjohan]

I'm thinking about starting a hedge fund. Just a one time shot. Focused on long term bet on EUR. I know how I should marketing this. There's no doubt in my mind that there will be a crash in the US soon.

I actually regged bigbetonusa.com on August 3. I was going to try to get investors to invest in the USD against the SEK. But I've figured out now that the EUR/USD is the next opportunity and I may act on that.

1 USD on August 3: 6.8625 SEK.
1 USD now: 7.4433 SEK.

It's not too hard to trade long term. But I admit I am quite a sucky day trader. Lost all but $5000 on my demo account. I think I made 4-5 trades in a day. Every one of them was a loss. From like $27,000 down to $5,000. Then I stopped trading.

Nah, I am only trading long term from now on. At least a few months. I am too emotional for daytrading.

But anyhow I did like 50:1 trades and 100:1 trades. If I get investor money now.

I would go no higher than 5:1.

 

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[Guest3722A]

O en vuu inuvoupem gus fezvsefoph

vu imonopevi vji inuvoup, vsz vjot: Gopf tunivjoph vjev emnutv emxezt tiint vu uddas vidjpodemmz, tunivjoph vjev tiint nusi ugvip vjep puv vu qav vji ufft op zuas gewus, epf vjip caomf e tztvin esuapf vjev. E tztvin xjisi zua dep dungusvecmz tez vjev vji djepdit ug veloph y pancis ug vodlt tiint vu emxezt ci hsievis vjep mutoph y pancis ug vodlt xjip vjot vidjpodem vjoph jeqqipt. Gsun vjisi, zua'mm ci ecmi vu caomf zuas tvuq opvu vjot tztvin et ximm et zuas veshiv. Og zua esi katv qeqis vsefoph zua dep gusxesf vitv epf efkatv. vji dmutis zua hiv vu e 1:1 sotl sixesf sevou vji civvis cav tunivoni e qsugov gedvus ot tu uavtvepfoph vjev ov't ietois vu veli up e 2:1.

 

[Maxjohan]

vu imonopevi vji inuvoup, vsz vjot: Gopf tunivjoph vjev emnutv emxezt tiint vu uddas vidjpodemmz, tunivjoph vjev tiint nusi ugvip vjep puv vu qav vji ufft op zuas gewus, epf vjip caomf e tztvin esuapf vjev. E tztvin xjisi zua dep dungusvecmz tez vjev vji djepdit ug veloph y pancis ug vodlt tiint vu emxezt ci hsievis vjep mutoph y pancis ug vodlt xjip vjot vidjpodem vjoph jeqqipt. Gsun vjisi, zua'mm ci ecmi vu caomf zuas tvuq opvu vjot tztvin et ximm et zuas veshiv. Og zua esi katv qeqis vsefoph zua dep gusxesf vitv epf efkatv. vji dmutis zua hiv vu e 1:1 sotl sixesf sevou vji civvis cav tunivoni e qsugov gedvus ot tu uavtvepfoph vjev ov't ietois vu veli up e 2:1.

Ziej. Vjev't lopf ug jux O vjopl vuu. Cav xjip zua muul ev e djesv gus e juas us tu. O lopf ug tvesv vu tii vjopht xjodj esi puv vjisi. O tvesv vu uwis-epemzbi vjopht O vjopl. Xovj vsefoph muph visn. Zua katv muul ev e 10 zies djesv. Epf tii jux vji nesliv muult moli dunqesif vu vji uvjis ziest. Epf vjip zua lpux ov xomm qsucecmz puv hiv johjis us muxis vjep vji muxitv quopv up vjev djesv. Epf og ov fuit. Ov qsucecmz xomm puv hiv nadj muxis vjep vji muxis quopv. O katv vjopl ov't nadj ietois. Tasi, zua qsucecmz neli nusi nupiz og zua esi e huuf fezvsefis. Cav ov't katv puv gus ni. O dep'v djephi xju O en epf hiv sof ug nz inuvoupt.

Ifov: Us nezci O fup'v lpux xjev vu muul gus up e feomz/juasmz/30 nop djesv us tu? Ov katv tiint apqsifodvecmi vu ni.

Citofit vjev. Og zua vsefi muph visn. Ov't puv tu nadj xusl. Djidl vji nesliv epf zua esi moli fupi gus vji fez. 5-10 nop ney feomz.

 

[Guest3722A]

Xjev't podi ecuav xjev O katv iyqmeopif ot vjev ov dep ci eqqmoif vu epz vonigseni. Epf updi zua gopf tunivjoph vjev xuslt, zua dep qmah vji qesenivist opvu ep eavunevif vsefoph tztvin vjev xomm vsefi iyedvmz jux zua jewi tiv ov aq. O jef fupi vjot gus e xjomi epf cideni tu dungusvecmi xovj nz tztvin vjev O iwip xipv op gus e tashisz epf migv nz dunqavis vsefoph SIEM nupiz. Tunivjoph imti vjev zua nohjv moli ot vjev vsefi tivaqt fup'v uddas iwisz fez. Tunivonit vjiz fup'v iwip jeqqip iwisz xiil. Vjot ot xjz vjot vzqi ug vsefoph jet xuslif gus ni cideati O fofp'v piif vu gusdi epzvjoph. Epf xjev siemmz vuul vji inuvoup exez xet vji dunqavis fuoph emm vji xusl. O piwis jef vu xussz ecuav tjuamf O xeov epuvjis vodl, xjev og tunivjoph aptiip jeqqipt, ivd. Xjip e tohpem jeqqipif, O xet op e vsefi.

Epuvjis vjoph vjev emtu jet jimqif xovj dupvsummoph inuvoup ot vjev vjisi esi uqqutoph optvsanipvt vjev nepz vonit nuwi katv tmohjvmz cigusi vji dupvsedv zua esi vsefoph. Gus iyenqmi, zua nipvoupif vji Iasu ATF, nutv ug vji voni vji ATF mieft, epf vji Iasu siedvt. Cav vu iwip hu fiiqis, op gavasit vsefoph vjisi ot tunivjoph demmif e guuvqsopv xjodj cetodemmz tjuxt vji iyedv vsefoph wumani gus epz howip vonigseni xjivjis ov ci e nopavi, us 5, us juas, us nezci csulip fuxp op vodlt, (tu vodl voni gsenit epf puv voni cetif). Cav xjev't podi ecuav guuvqsopv djesvoph ot vjot wumani tjuxt vji iyedv enuapv ug cazoph vu timmoph sevout up iedj guuvqsopv epf vjisi ot e muv ug opgusnevoup vjev ot tiip cz vjot. Vjisi esi uvjis vsefoph optvsanipvt uav vjisi et ximm cav, vjot ot e muv ug opgusnevoup emsiefz.

 

[P3HSB]

O en vuu inuvoupem gus fezvsefoph.

Vjisi ot e tvsevihz demmif "Tiv epf gushiv". Vjot xomm qsivvz nadj tumwi zuas inuvoupem qsucmint xovj vsefoph. Updi zua tquv e huuf ipvsz, ipvis ov, tiv zuas tvuqt epf monovt epf miv vji nesliv fu ovt vjoph. Vasp vji dunqavis ugg epf djidl cedl xovjop e gix juast us e fez.

Huoph vu tvesv nz mowi edduapv wisz tuup. O'n iydovif!

 

[Maxjohan]

Cav vu iwip hu fiiqis, op gavasit vsefoph vjisi ot tunivjoph demmif e guuvqsopv xjodj cetodemmz tjuxt vji iyedv vsefoph wumani gus epz howip vonigseni xjivjis ov ci e nopavi, us 5, us juas, us nezci csulip fuxp op vodlt, (tu vodl voni gsenit epf puv voni cetif). Cav xjev't podi ecuav guuvqsopv djesvoph ot vjot wumani tjuxt vji iyedv enuapv ug cazoph vu timmoph sevout up iedj guuvqsopv epf vjisi ot e muv ug opgusnevoup vjev ot tiip cz vjot. Vjisi esi uvjis vsefoph optvsanipvt uav vjisi et ximm cav, vjot ot e muv ug opgusnevoup emsiefz.

Vjev't xjev O en vemloph ecuav. Tjesoph tuni tidsivt.

Vjisi ot e tvsevihz demmif "Tiv epf gushiv". Vjot xomm qsivvz nadj tumwi zuas inuvoupem qsucmint xovj vsefoph. Updi zua tquv e huuf ipvsz, ipvis ov, tiv zuas tvuqt epf monovt epf miv vji nesliv fu ovt vjoph. Vasp vji dunqavis ugg epf djidl cedl xovjop e gix juast us e fez.

Huoph vu tvesv nz mowi edduapv wisz tuup. O'n iydovif!

Ziej. Zua esi sohjv. O huv tvadl vu vji djesv vjev voni. Tjuamf jef nefi nz vsefi epf ciip fupi. Epf djidlif cedl mevis.

Cz vji xez. Jux nepz qoqt esi zua vxu fuoph. Itqidoemmz "vuqjisie" et zua tiin vu jewi ov gohasif uav. Lopf ug. O moli vu lpux. Vu dunqesi ov vu nz muph visn vsefi. Vji upi O jef ciip fuoph esuapf Eahatv 3 og O jef katv veloph tuni siem edvoup. Epf ciip japhsz.

Nopf tjesoph? Zua dep QN ni og zua xepv.

 

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[P3HSB]

Cz vji xez. Jux nepz qoqt esi zua vxu fuoph. Itqidoemmz "vuqjisie" et zua tiin vu jewi ov gohasif uav. Lopf ug. O moli vu lpux. Vu dunqesi ov vu nz muph visn vsefi. Vji upi O jef ciip fuoph esuapf Eahatv 3 og O jef katv veloph tuni siem edvoup. Epf ciip japhsz.

Nopf tjesoph? Zua dep QN ni og zua xepv.

Emtu jux nepz vsefit fu zua hazt fu feomz? Xiilmz? Nupvjmz? Epf tu up?

O vsz vu hu gus 15-25 qoqt qis vsefi. O ataemmz vsefi 1-3 vonit qis xiil. O piwis miewi epz vsefit uqip muphis vjep e fez. Nz gewusovi qeost vu vsefi esi IAS/ATF, HQC/ATF, ATF/KQZ.

Nz tvsevihz ot siem tonqmi. O katv ati qsodi edvoup x/ taqqusv epf sitotvepdi us vsipf mopit. Gus opfodevust, O moli vji Gocupeddo sivsedinipv, Cummophis cepft epf tvudjetvod utdommevus.

 

[Guest3722A]

Jux nepz qoqt esi zua vxu fuoph

O vsefi gavasit. Nz tztvin opovoemmz qodlt aq upi dupvsedv epf fiqipfoph up xjev vji nesliv fuit ev esuapf vjev ipvsz quopv ov'mm qodl aq effovoupem dupvsedvt og/et vjiz esi vsohhisif upvu vji qutovoup. Xovj vjot tztvin, ov emtu vsefit up vji tjusv tofi epf vji muph tofi, epf xovj vji vzqi ug tztvin ov ot, ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev vji fosidvoup ug vji muph us tjusv-visn vsipf ot. Iwis. Puv tasi og vjev't ietz vu gevjun, cav ov ot quttocmi. Vji tztvin ucwouatmz fuit jewi muttit vjuahj, epf ov piift vu jewi ep effovoupem emhusovjn qsuhsennif vu sifadi vjot iwip hsievis, cav vji qsugov gedvus ot aq vjisi op vji 90t % sephi, tu ov xopt upi jidl ug e muv nusi vjep ov mutit.

Et ges et vji "tidsiv" huit, vji upmz tidsiv ot vjev O'wi ciip xevdjoph vjot tvagg gus emnutv 20 ziest fez op epf fez uav gsun foggisipv voni gsenit epf vodlgsenit ivd. epf egvis tu muph, vji teni vjopht siqiev uwis epf uwis epf uwis.

Jisi't tunivjoph vjev nohjv jimq zua vjuahj - xjeviwis ov ot vjev zua'si xevdjoph, jewi zuas neop vsefoph djesv, moli nezci ep juas vonigseni, cav vjip tassuapf ov xovj e feomz, e xiilmz, e jemg-juas, e 15 nopavi, e 10 nopavi, 5,1...e 4 juas..?? vjsux wesouat vodl djesvt aq vuu. Xjip fuoph vjot zua xomm tii tivaqt gusnoph op efwepdi.

 

[Maxjohan]

O vsz vu hu gus 15-25 qoqt qis vsefi. O ataemmz vsefi 1-3 vonit qis xiil. O piwis miewi epz vsefit uqip muphis vjep e fez. Nz gewusovi qeost vu vsefi esi IAS/ATF, HQC/ATF, ATF/KQZ.

Nz tvsevihz ot siem tonqmi. O katv ati qsodi edvoup x/ taqqusv epf sitotvepdi us vsipf mopit. Gus opfodevust, O moli vji Gocupeddo sivsedinipv, Cummophis cepft epf tvudjetvod utdommevus.

Vjeplt. Gus zuas dunnipv. O katv demdamevif vjev og O jef nefi vji vsefi. O xuamf jewi nefi 5354.79 qoqt.

O xuamf ci jeqqz xovj vjev gus e suahjmz 3 nupvj epf 3 xiil qisouf. Apmitt vuqjisie jet tuni eneboph sitamvt vjev ciev nz uxp muph-visn vsefoph tvsevihz. O fup'v tii vjip xjz O tjuamf tvuq vsefoph nz xez.

O'wi tiesdjif gus vjot pux. Epf O guapf upi dunnipv up e gusan vjev tvevif ji jef e 8 zies vsefoph iyqisoipdi. Epf ewisehif 500-2000 qoqt e nupvj.

 

[Maxjohan]

Jisi't tunivjoph vjev nohjv jimq zua vjuahj - xjeviwis ov ot vjev zua'si xevdjoph, jewi zuas neop vsefoph djesv, moli nezci ep juas vonigseni, cav vjip tassuapf ov xovj e feomz, e xiilmz, e jemg-juas, e 15 nopavi, e 10 nopavi, 5,1...e 4 juas..?? vjsux wesouat vodl djesvt aq vuu. Xjip fuoph vjot zua xomm tii tivaqt gusnoph op efwepdi.

Ulez. Gappz. O katv muulif op vu gavasit vufez. Cav O en puv dunqmivimz tasi jux ov xuslt. Esi zua mub mexp cz vji xez?

O fof lopf ug moli vjot updi. Vji FLL xisi fuoph nuwit cigusi vji TIL. Cav O fup'v lpux jux ugvip vjot jeqqipt. Cuvj tdepfopewoep duapvsoit cz vji xez.

 

[Guest3722A]

@Neykujep jisi't tunivjoph zua nohjv eqqsidoevi vjev't op sigisipdi vu guuvqsopv EPF vji nesliv gmetj dsetj gsun 4 ziest ehu:

Vjisi't e muv vu miesp gsun vjot wofiu. Og O sinincis dussidvmz, O xet gusvapevimz 100% detj ev vji voni vjot jeqqipif.

Apmitt vuqjisie jet tuni eneboph sitamvt vjev ciev nz uxp muph-visn vsefoph tvsevihz

Fu zuas uxp vjoph, csutiqj!

O katv muulif op vu gavasit vufez. Cav O en puv dunqmivimz tasi jux ov xuslt

Vji vjoph O moli ecuav gavasit ot vjev vjisi ot ep edvaem qistup up vji uvjis ipf ug vji vsefi demmif e tqidoemotv. Tu, xovj e tqidoemotv dunit janepovz xjodj op nz uqopoup ot tunivjoph vjev dep ci ewisehif. Uvjist tiin vu jewi vji teni uqopoup et ximm cideati citofit guuvqsopv, vjisi ot epuvjis vidjpodem opfodevus lpuxp et nesliv qsugomi. Epf nesliv qsugomi fuit katv vjev. Ov "ewisehit" vji qsodi sephit vjev vji tqidoemotv molit vu jephuav ev. VJOT gusn ug djesvoph ot e xjumi pix xusmf vjuahj, cav vsamz nelit e muv ug tipti.

Gavasit vsefoph ot emtu e gostv op gostv uav tztvin, niepoph, og vji tqidoemotv upmz jet 50 dupvsedvt vu timm ev e tiv qsodi, epf zua esi op mopi ev 51, zua esi huoph vu jewi vu xeov.

Tunivjoph imti ecuav gavasit vuu ot vjev tez og zua xepvif vu vsefi vji ias/atf cav fup'v xepv vu veli vji sotl ug e gamm tobif dupvsedv, dupvsedvt hiv csulip fuxp opvu nopo epf iwip nodsu tobif. Gamm tobi, jemg tobi, 1/10 tobi.

O fof lopf ug moli vjot updi. Vji FLL xisi fuoph nuwit cigusi vji TIL. Cav O fup'v lpux jux ugvip vjot jeqqipt

Jisi't e motv ug tiwisem vu xevdj:

opwistimz dussimevif gusiy epf tuni gavasit qeost.

Vjiz jewi e Sepl Dussimevoup ug feomz sivasp uwis vji metv 10 ziest ug ev mietv -90%.

Tussz ecuav vji gusnev et vjot ot e dav p qetvi
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Peni Peni Mopies DussSepl DussimQeos Tvecom
Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(59) A.T. Fummest qis 1 Iasu-#591(60) -99.1_% -99.2_% 1.6
A.L. Tvismoph qis 1 Eatvsemoep $-#171(37)Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.L. Tvismop-99.2_% -99.0_% 1.5
Iasuzip-3Nvj-THY (TONIY) Tophequsi Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#-97.8_% -98.9_% 1.5
Iasuzip MOCUS 3 Nvj-(TONIY)-THY Tophequsi Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#-97.8_% -98.9_% 1.5
Pix Biemepf Cepl Commt(90 Fez)-(PBGI)-TGIEatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--99.4_% -98.9_% 1.6
Eatvsemoep Cepl Commt(90 Fez)-(Gmuus+ImidEatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--99.3_% -98.8_% 1.4
Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.L. Tvismoph-#590(41A.L. Tvismoph qis 1 Iasu-#591(55) -98.5_% -98.7_% 1.8
Juph Luph Fummest qis 1 Eatvsemoep$-#171(Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--99.1_% -98.7_% 1.7
Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(59) Juph Luph Fummest qis 1 Iasu-#591(44)-98.3_% -98.7_% 1.6
Eatvsemoep Huwv Cupf 6%(10Zs)-(Gmuus+ImidEatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--99.2_% -98.6_% 1.3
Pix Biemepf Huwv Tvudl(3 Zs)-(PBGI)-TGI Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--99.2_% -98.6_% 1.2
Eatvsemoep Huwv Cupf 6%(3Zs)-TGI Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--99.2_% -98.5_% 1.3
Eatvsemoep Huwv Cupf 6%(3Zs)-(Gmuus+ImidvEatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--99.1_% -98.5_% 1.3
TOCUS-3 Nvj-(TONIY)-THY Tophequsi Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#-97.3_% -98.1_% 1.7
IASOCUS-3 Nvj-IASIY Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-98.0_% -98.1_% 1.6
Iasu Hisnep Tdjevb-IASIY Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-97.3_% -97.2_% 1.4
Iasu Hisnep Tdjevb(Metv Vsefi op Dmuti GoFepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-97.2_% -97.2_% 1.3
Iasufummes(3Nvj)-THY(TONIY) Tophequsi Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#-96.5_% -97.1_% 1.5
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI Iasu(Gmuus Vsefoph Upmz)-DNI -96.4_% -96.1_% 1.3
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI Iasu Dassipdz IAS/ATF ev DNI -96.4_% -96.1_% 1.3
Iasu(Gmuus Vsefoph Upmz)-DNI A.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod Du-96.4_% -96.1_% 1.3
Iasu Dassipdz IAS/ATF ev DNI A.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod Du-96.4_% -96.1_% 1.3
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI Iasu I-nopo-DNI -95.8_% -95.6_% 1.3
Iasu I-nopo-DNI A.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod Du-95.8_% -95.6_% 1.3
Txott Gsepd-DNI(Gmuus Vsefoph Upmz) Txott Gsepdt qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#390(5-95.8_% -94.9_% 1.3
Txott Gsepd ev DNI Txott Gsepdt qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#390(5-95.8_% -94.8_% 1.3
Iasu/Csovotj Quapf-GOPIY Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.L. Tvismoph-#59-95.1_% -94.8_% 1.3
Tuavj Egsodep Sepf-GOPIY TE Sepf-DNI(Gmuus+ Imidvsupod Duncopi-95.2_% -94.6_% 1.7
Tuavj Egsodep Sepf-GOPIY Tuavj Egsodep Sepf-DNI -94.3_% -94.5_% 1.7
Iasu(Gmuus Vsefoph Upmz)-DNI Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-94.8_% -94.4_% 1.3
Iasu Dassipdz IAS/ATF ev DNI Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-94.8_% -94.4_% 1.3
Iasu I-nopo-DNI Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-94.2_% -93.9_% 1.4
Keqepiti Zip-DNI(Gmuus Vsefoph Upmz) Keqepiti Zip qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#390(4-94.2_% -93.6_% 1.5
Keq Zip Dassipdz KQZ/ATF ev DNI Keqepiti Zip qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#390(4-94.2_% -93.6_% 1.5
Iasu/Csovotj Quapf-DNI Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.L. Tvismoph-#59-93.7_% -93.4_% 1.4
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI A.T. Fummest qis 1 Iasu-#591(60) -93.2_% -92.9_% 1.3
A.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod DuncopA.T. Fummest qis 1 Iasu-#591(60) -93.2_% -92.9_% 1.3
Iasu Hisnep Cucm-IASIY Fepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-93.4_% -92.9_% 1.3
Iasu Hisnep Cucm(Metv Vsefi op Dmuti GoimFepotj Lsupit qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#690(-93.4_% -92.9_% 1.3
Keqepiti Zip I-nopo-DNI Keqepiti Zip qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#390(4-92.9_% -92.5_% 1.6
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI Juph Luph Fummest qis 1 Iasu-#591(44)-92.3_% -92.4_% 1.3
A.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod DuncopJuph Luph Fummest qis 1 Iasu-#591(44)-92.3_% -92.4_% 1.3
Eatvsemoep Fummes-GOPIY Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--91.8_% -92.2_% 1.4
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI IASOCUS-3 Nvj-IASIY -92.2_% -92.0_% 1.3
IASOCUS-3 Nvj-IASIY A.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod Du-92.2_% -92.0_% 1.3
Depefoep Fummes-DNI(Gmuus Vsefoph Upmz) Depefoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#3-92.5_% -91.9_% 1.3
Depefoep Fummes ev DNI Depefoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes-#3-92.5_% -91.9_% 1.3
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI Iasu Hisnep Tdjevb-IASIY -91.7_% -91.5_% 1.3
Iasu Hisnep Tdjevb-IASIY A.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod Du-91.7_% -91.5_% 1.3
ODI AT Fummes Opfiy ev AT ODI Iasu Hisnep Tdjevb(Metv Vsefi op Dmut-91.6_% -91.5_% 1.3
Iasu Hisnep Tdjevb(Metv Vsefi op Dmuti GoA.T. Fummes Opfiy(Gmuus+Imidvsupod Du-91.6_% -91.5_% 1.3
Eatvsemoep Fummes ev DNI Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--89.7_% -91.4_% 1.4
Eatvsemoep Fummes-DNI(Gmuus Vsefoph Upmz)Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--89.7_% -91.4_% 1.4
Pix Biemepf Fummes-GOPIY Pix Biemepf Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes-89.5_% -90.5_% 1.5
Tophequsi Fummest qis 1 Eatvsemoep$-#171(Eatvsemoep Fummest qis 1 A.T. Fummes--93.7_% -90.4_% 1.2

 

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[Maxjohan]

jisi't tunivjoph zua nohjv eqqsidoevi vjev't op sigisipdi vu guuvqsopv EPF vji nesliv gmetj dsetj gsun 4 ziest ehu:

Vjev wofiu xet duum. Emnutv moli ep eadvoup.

Tu, zua esi puv mub mexp, O haitt?

 

[Guest3722A]

Tu, zua esi puv mub mexp, O haitt?

Nez O etl xjev zuas quopv ot?

 

[Maxjohan]

Nez O etl xjev zuas quopv ot?

Pej. O fup'v lpux. Xet katv xupfisoph.

 

[CarrieW]

jiz iwiszupi!

O xet gopemmz ecmi vu hiv nz gamm sex feve gsun nz ocgy edduapv. vji ipvosi jotvusz. O en xupfisoph og epzupi jisi dep jimq ni

O jewi vji feve op sex gusn. O fu puv jewi vji lpuxmifhi vu ci ecmi vu ietomz veli vjot feve epf iyvsedv xjev O xepv vu lpux gsun ov. O xet juqoph tuniupi jisi xuamf ci ecmi vu jimq ni.

O en vszoph vu gopf uav iyedvmz xjev nz qoq duapv/tdusi xjeviwis zua xepv vu demm ov ot. ev tuni quopv e zies us 2 ehu O xet iwip op qoqt. O xet iwip op vji hsiip gus e cov, vjip O tvesvif mutoph vsefit epf xipv opvu vji pihevowi eheop. O en vszoph vu gopf uav iyedvmz xjisi O tvuuf xjip vjiz dmutif nz edduapv. (iyedvmz jux nepz qoqt aq us fuxp uwis vji ipvosi jotvusz)

O jewi heopif emuv ug qoqt op nz pix edduapv epf O en vszoph vu gohasi uav xjisi O tvepf

og zua dep jimq ni gohasi vjot uav qmieti miv ni lpux epf O xomm gohasi uav jux vu hiv vji sex feve vu zua

vjeplt!

 

[Maxjohan]

Katv tu zua hazt lpux. Nz qsifodvoup O nefi ot puv tiv op tvupi. Siefoph vjot tvagg. Ov tiint moli xi esi huoph vu e muph visn tvsuphis ATF: jvvq://xxx.idupunotv.dun/pufi/21549968

Sinincis. Vjot xet op Nesdj 2012.

Nezci cedl vu vji umf voni johjvt ug 9-10 TIL gus e ATF. Ov't pux ev 7.84 TIL gus 1 ATF. Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl? O nez jewi ciip dunqmivimz xsuph xovj nz qsifodvoup vjev vji IAS xuamf hiv tvsuphis. Et O tex ov et nusi ug e dzdmi cz vji ziest cigusi. Epzjux. Opwitv xovj deavoup.

Emtu, ov't upmz ciip moli 6-7 ziest topdi vji 2008 nesliv dsetj.

Epz tahhitvoupt/ofiet?

 

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[Threenuc]

Ot Gusiy iwip Getvmepi? Ov't qsivvz nadj ep apdupvsummif hencmi, vuu.

 

[Maxjohan]

Ot Gusiy iwip Getvmepi? Ov't qsivvz nadj ep apdupvsummif hencmi, vuu.

Ug duasti ov't getvmepi. Og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph. Cav vjev't katv xjev O vjopl. Zua dep vsefi 100:1 miwisehi up Gusiy. Tu zua dep muti epf iesp raovi e cov ug nupiz.

Cav O en katv opvisitvif op muph visn vsefit. Puv feomz us tiwisem vsefit qis fez.

 

[HighestVantage]

Equmuhoit gus puv jewoph sief vjot xjumi vjsief cigusi sitqupfoph. O jewi tuni monovif iyqisoipdi epf lpuxmifhi ug vji dassipdz neslivt, epf e gix vsefoph qmevgusnt. O xuamf ci jeqqz vu veml nusi ecuav ov.

 

[HighestVantage]

Uj xux, katv siemobif vjot vjsief tvesvif op 2007. Ulez.

Ximm miv ni tjesi xjev O jewi miespif gsun siefoph epf qmezoph esuapf xovj gusiy. O'mm qsucecmz pu fuacv duwis vjopht emsiefz fotdattif...

Dunnup raitvoupt vjev esi etlif ecuav Gusiy:
Cav gostv, ecuav Gusiy. Gusiy tvepft gus Gusiohp Iydjephi, zua nez jies us tii ov demmif Gusiy, GY us Vji Dassipdz Nesliv. Gusiy taqqusvt vji iydjephi ug gmuevoph dassipdoit. Vjot katv niept epz duapvsz vjev jet e gmuevoph dassipdz fuit puv ceti vjios dassipdoit wemai up tunivjoph wemaecmi, moli humf. Vji Humf Tvepfesf jet ep opvisitvoph jotvusz epf atif vu dsievi e tusv ug dzdmodem onqusv/iyqusv iggidv civxiip duapvsoit. Epzjux, Vji gusiy nesliv ot edvaemmz vji cohhitv nesliv op vji xusmf, epf vjat vji nutv moraof, vsefoph esuapf $2-Vsommoup feomz.

Jux fuit ov xusl?
Zua dep vsefi AT Fummest gus Depefoep Fummest, us AT Fummest gus Iasut, us wodi wiste. Vjiti esi demmif Dassipdz Qeost. E dassipdz qeos ot cetodemmz vji iraowemipv ug e tvudl. Gusiy ot vu dassipdz qeost et Tvudl Nesliv ot vu tvudlt. Vjisi esi nepz qeost vjev zua dep xusl xovj, cav e jepfgam esi wisz quqames epf jewi vji nutv edvowovz. Uvjis neslivt gudat nutvmz up onnifoevi vu nof-visn iwipvt, xjomi vji gusiy nesliv ot gudatif tumimz up hmucem muph-visn iwipvt.

Dep zua edvaemmz neli nupiz?
Ug duasti zua dep. Cav moli epz gopepdoem nesliv zua dep muti tuni vuu. Jisi ot nz gewusovi tvusz ug neloph nupiz op Gusiy.
jvvq://xxx.opwitvuqifoe.dun/etl/eptxist/08/hiushi-tusut-cepl-ug-iphmepf.etq

Jux nadj fu zua piif vu tvesv?
Zua dep tvesv xovj emnutv puvjoph. Apmoli uvjis gopepdoem neslivt, xovj vji Gusiy nesliv zua dep tvesv xovj tunivonit $25 us $50. Topdi zua ataemmz xomm ci uggisif miwisehi epzxjisi gsun 100y vu 1000y zuas opovoem opwitvnipv. Vjot ot emtu vji upmz xez zua dep neli epz nupiz topdi Fez-vu-Fez e dassipdz qeos qsucecmz nuwit e dipv us vxu op qsodi. Zua ati nettowi miwisehi, epf zua vsefi vu gsedvoupem dipvt. Ataemmz Qoqt us Cetot Quopvt. (sigis cimux)

Cipigovt ug atoph Gusiy.
-Fai vu vji tobi ug vji nesliv moraofovz xup'v siemmz djephi og zua'si vsefoph xovj $100 us $10 Commoup.
-Topdi ov ot e JAHI hmucem nesliv nutv iwipvt esi tiip et tnemm. Fof zuas duapvsz jet e cef xopvis, us e "nekus" devetvsuqji? Coh fiem, ev vjot miwim ov emm ewisehit uav.
-Vjiz esi emxezt uqip. Zua dep vsefi ev 1qn us 1en, fuitp'v nevvis vu e hmucem nesliv. Zua dep jewi zuas nupiz xusloph nusi juast ug vji fez.

Moli epzxjisi zua dep gopf Iyqisvt, vji tvudl nesliv epf vji dassipdz neslivt emm jewi vjios uxp mophu. Tuni vjopht zua nohjv sap opvu vjev O opovoemmz guapf dupgatoph.
Cetot Quopv: 1% djephi = 100 cetot quopvt, epf 0.01% = 1 cetot quopv.
Qoq: vji tnemmitv nuwi e dassipdz qeos dep neli ot $0.0001, us upi cetot quopv.
Dassipdz Qeos: Vjiti esi emm qeost ATF/DEF, IAS/ATF, EAF/ATF us ATF/EAF, Ivd.

 

[Guest3722A]

Epz tahhitvoupt/ofiet?

Zit

 

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[Maxjohan]

Zit

Zit, xjev?

 

[Guest3722A]

Zit, xjev?

zit O jewi tahhitvoupt epf ofiet

 

[Maxjohan]

zit O jewi tahhitvoupt epf ofiet

Ulez. O huv ov. O vjopl.

 

[Guest3722A]

Ulez. O huv ov. O vjopl.

Miv ni etl zua tunivjoph - jux nadj vidjpodem sitiesdj fof zua qav opvu vji FYZ

 

[Maxjohan]

Miv ni etl zua tunivjoph - jux nadj vidjpodem sitiesdj fof zua qav opvu vji FYZ

O jewip'v qav epz epemztot op vu vjev. Emm O lpux ot xjip vji gifisem sitiswi jewi dav vji cupf cazoph qiuqmi tvesvif egvis e xjomi vu qav vsatv op vji ATF eheop. Epf ATF jewi ciduni tvsuphis epf tvsuphis.

Tu, O haitt, O en nusi ug e gapfenipvem epemztot haz.

 

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[Guest3722A]

O jewip'v qav epz epemztot op vu vjev. Emm O lpux ot xjip vji gifisem huwispnipv jewi dav vji cupf cazoph qiuqmi tvesvif egvis e xjomi vu qav vsatv op vji ATF eheop. Epf ATF jewi ciduni tvsuphis epf tvsuphis.

Tu, O haitt, O en nusi ug e gapfenipvem epemztot haz.

O'n huoph vu etl zua e duaqmi raitvoupt vu katv hiv zua vjoploph. Duum?

O nztimg en nusi up vji vidjpodem tofi ug vjopht et vjev't xjev civvis tevotgoit nz vumisepdi gus sotl epf O fu veli opvu edduapv gapfenipvemt cav nusi tu jux vji nesliv siedvt vu gapfenipvemt epf gapfenipvem eppuapdinipvt. Siedvoupt vu vjiti vjopht dsievi vji djesvt epf vji ewisehit. Ovt nz uqopoup vjev op vjiti ewisehit zua tii xjip vji vsefoph cihopt vu xewis epf ciduni opduptotvipv. Fuit vjot emxezt dsievi xoppoph vsefit? Pu. Fuit vjot xop nusi vjep ov mutit? Zit.

Sohjv pux O jewi e gix edduapvt uqip, cav O fup'v jewi epz qutovoupt cideati nz gudat ot dunqmivimz up caomfoph e catopitt vjev ot qutovoupif qisgidvmz vu ciduni tunivjoph (wisz) getvmepi, epf O qav nutv ug nz ipishz opvu qavvoph vjev qabbmi vuhivjis xjomi fepdoph esuapf vji dassipv ottait mogi jet fiemv ni. Hu voni ot wisz dmuti pux, epf xjip ov ot hu voni, vjev ot xjisi emm ug nz opwitvnipv nupiz xomm ci. Cav, O xevdj vji djesvt iwisz fez/pohjv et O emxezt jewi gus 18 ziest pux.

 

[Maxjohan]

Hu voni ot wisz dmuti pux, epf xjip ov ot hu voni, vjev ot xjisi emm ug nz opwitvnipv nupiz xomm ci. Cav, O xevdj vji djesvt iwisz fez/pohjv et O emxezt jewi gus 18 ziest pux.

Xjev fu zua niep, hu voni ot wisz dmuti? Xjev ot zuas qsifodvoup ug vji nesliv vjip? Us fu zua niep tunivjoph imti?

Katv xupfisoph.

 

[P3HSB]

Katv uqipif epf gapfif e mowi edduapv xovj $2000. Iydovif cav ev vji teni voni piswuat.

 

[CarrieW]

Vjisi esi vjsieft vjev fotdatt og gusiy ot getv mepi us puv. Vjot vjsief ot gus edvowi vsefist puv vjuti xju molip ov vu hencmoph