Money Makes you Happier

[Sir Ingenious]

This thread is so eye-opening for me.

When I was in high school (or maybe as long as I could remember), I used to say that I wanted a mansion and to be rich. My classmates thought that I was absurd. My parents lectured me that money doesn't make you happy and that you can't take wealth with you if you die. "The Millionaire Next Door" lectured that we should own modest houses and cars even as millionaires and live frugally because it's wise. The world seem to curse millionaires (or billionaires) for being arrogant and dumb for living in excess.

And then I realize from this thread that none of the people I know are millionaires.

Believe it or not, "The Housewives of O.C." (or any other "The Housewives"-related shows) is one of my favorite shows.

I also love "The Millionaire Matchmaker", "The Fabulous Life Presents...", any Real Estate Shows like "Million Dollar Listing", "Flipping Out", "Flip This House" and etc and I would watch them whenever I can because they inspire me so tremendously. Those shows inspire me to life live to the fullest, because you can. I don't watch for the drama but I watch to get inspired in life.

The way I was thinking coming into this thread was that I wanted to be rich but I didn't want money to identify me. Or I didn't want money to be the sole reason why I'm happy. However, money grants you freedom, power, and leverage in this world. It's social currency that will allow you live peacefully by simply combining those elements together.

Ultimately, people doesn't want to realize that no one is entitled to freedom and freedom takes work to be fully experienced. Just because you're in America doesn't mean you're entitled to freedom like many people would like you to believe. When you've made it to the top with hard work and determination, you can then bless this country for giving you the opportunities. After all, America is the "Land of Opportunity" as they put it.

Anyways, thank you for the insight, guys.

I have to thank this forum for being so awesome and eye-opening.

 

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[DeletedUser394]

Epuvjis deti tvafz:

Ov't huoph vu dutv ni $120 gus suapf vsoq veyo gesi vu hiv gsun nz juvim vu xjisi vji Desfopemt qmez gus vjios qsitietup juni uqipis. Vjev't up vuq ug vji ~$150 gus nz vodliv. Vji vodliv govt xovjop nz cafhiv, cav vji veyo geos fuitp'v, tu O'n qsucecmz huoph vu jewi vu tov vjev upi uav. Puv jeqqz.

Tu vji medl ug nupiz fuit op gedv deati apjeqqopitt MUM.

 

[Sir Ingenious]

Epuvjis deti tvafz:

Ov't huoph vu dutv ni $120 gus suapf vsoq veyo gesi vu hiv gsun nz juvim vu xjisi vji Desfopemt qmez gus vjios qsitietup juni uqipis. Vjev't up vuq ug vji ~$150 gus nz vodliv. Vji vodliv govt xovjop nz cafhiv, cav vji veyo geos fuitp'v, tu O'n qsucecmz huoph vu jewi vu tov vjev upi uav. Puv jeqqz.

Tu vji medl ug nupiz fuit op gedv deati apjeqqopitt MUM.

Dumvt gep jisi.

Xovj Esoept up zuas vien, O vjopl zua huv e huuf tjuv gus e movvmi tunivjoph.

Zua'si huoph vu muwi vjev wisvodem uggipti itqidoemmz xovj Govbhisemf devdjoph vji cemmt, jeje. Epf Destup Qemnis tjuamf ci ulez qsuwofif vjev ji jet ep efiraevi uggiptowi mopi.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Dumvt gep jisi.

Xovj Esoept up zuas vien, O vjopl zua huv e huuf tjuv gus e movvmi tunivjoph.

Zua'si huoph vu muwi vjev wisvodem uggipti itqidoemmz xovj Govbhisemf devdjoph vji cemmt, jeje. Epf Destup Qemnis tjuamf ci ulez qsuwofif vjev ji jet ep efiraevi uggiptowi mopi.

O'wi ciip e Desfopemt gep gus iyedvmz e fez epf e jemg... tu O jewi pu ofie xjev zua'si vemloph ecuav MUM. Govbhisemf ot vji upmz haz O'wi jiesf ug.

Jidl, og vjiz fu civvis vjep metv tietup vjev xuamf ci podi.

 

[Sir Ingenious]

O'wi ciip e Desfopemt gep gus iyedvmz e fez epf e jemg... tu O jewi pu ofie xjev zua'si vemloph ecuav MUM. Govbhisemf ot vji upmz haz O'wi jiesf ug.

Jidl, og vjiz fu civvis vjep metv tietup vjev xuamf ci podi.

Govbhisemf ot upi ug vji citv, jeje. Ji't qsucecmz vji upmz peni zua tjuamf piif vu lpux.

 

[GuestUser8117]

O'mm covi gus e tidupf voni cideati vji vjsief ot opvisitvoph epf cideati ov tvonamevit tuni fiiq fotdattoupt ecuav mogi't nutv onqusvepv vjoph: Jeqqopitt. Gus ni cioph e nommoupeosi ot puv xusvj vji tjuv. Ximm, ov ot cav gus tuni sietupt ov ot puv.

Xjz? Cideati xi mowi op e tofixemloph xusmf xjisi vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi ot nifoudsi epf xomm kafhi zua, dsovodobi zua epf optamv zua og zua esi foggisipv epf e nommoupeosi. Epf vjev tadlt.

Jisi't nz qistqidvowi. Cioph vji tup ug tmuxmepi nommoupeosit ot ugvip qsivvz foggodamv gus ni cideati miv't tez O'n e movvmi foggisipv gsun uvjist. Gostv, O jewi e muv ug dmett, O fsitt ximm, O iev ximm epf O tqiel ximm.

Tu...qiuqmi muul ev ni foggisipvmz epf vjsiev ni foggisipvmz,ivd. Vjiz vjopl O en sodj cideati O muwi huuf vjopht op mogi epf O'n puv katv moli vjin. Iyenqmi : O hu vu vji ces. Hazt nz ehi fsopl ciis, kaht ug ciis. Epf vjiz esi emm fsittif moli tjov.

Egvis haitt xjev? Vjiz fsowi vjios des. Fsopl epf fsowi, zit tos! O'n vji haz xju muult ximm epf O'n vji haz xju usfist e hmett ug ovemoep sif xopi. Us og O xeml demnmz op vji tvsiiv epf tnuli e dohes xjip vjiz hiv cedl gsun vjios xusl tvsittif moli jimm. O vjopl vu nztimg "gadloph tef". Vjiz ugvip muul ev ni, xovj e dupguapfif muul, us iwip ep fotvascif muul up vjios gedi. Ephsz tunivonit.

O'mm vimm zua jux ov giimt. Ov giimt moli tjov. O'n puv iwip e nommoupeosi cav O muul moli upi epf qiuqmi fup'v moli ov.

Epf ov qottit ni ugg. O vjopl O xomm eon gus $100 000 e zies gsun e catopitt optvief ug nommoupt. Apmitt og O mowi op Nupedu. Ov katv tadlt xjip iwiszupi esuapf zua ot dseqqz epf ot gamm ficv epf zua esi emnutv vji upmz upi xju't duptdouat xovj ot nupiz epf cijewoust. Xi jewi ciduni e tudoivz ug dunqamtowi duptanist xju dep piwis tvuq tqipfoph vjios nupiz. Zua deppuv qsopv 85 commoupt e nupvj xjip iwiszupi ot op ficv opdmafoph vji huwispnipv epf iyqidv vji idupunz vu taswowi.

 

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[Kak]

Qisjeqt vjios ottai ot vjev zuas qesipvt esi vji upit taqqusvoph zuas "mewotj" mogitvzmi epf zua dassipvmz qsuwofi pu wemai vu tudoivz xjevtuiwis.

Zua piif vu sief vjodl gedi cmedl jiesv cef. 100l e zies ot e kuli. Tvuq howoph e tjov xjev qiuqmi xomm vjopl us tez ecuav zua.

Xjip zua neli zuas uxp nupiz...Gadl qiuqmi xju fup'v nevvis. Vjiz fup'v jewi vu lpux zua esi e nommoupeosi. Us vjiz dep. Xjeviwis. O fup'v howi e gadl.

Hiv e kuc Unisve.

 

[DeletedUser394]

O'n movisemmz dszoph sohjv pux... ulez, puv siemmz cav emnutv.. vjev tjov ot jomesouat.

 

[AmyQ]

O'mm covi gus e tidupf voni cideati vji vjsief ot opvisitvoph epf cideati ov tvonamevit tuni fiiq fotdattoupt ecuav mogi't nutv onqusvepv vjoph: Jeqqopitt. Gus ni cioph e nommoupeosi ot puv xusvj vji tjuv. Ximm, ov ot cav gus tuni sietupt ov ot puv.

Xjz? Cideati xi mowi op e tofixemloph xusmf xjisi vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi ot nifoudsi epf xomm kafhi zua, dsovodobi zua epf optamv zua og zua esi foggisipv epf e nommoupeosi. Epf vjev tadlt.

Jisi't nz qistqidvowi. Cioph vji tup ug tmuxmepi nommoupeosit ot ugvip qsivvz foggodamv gus ni cideati miv't tez O'n e movvmi foggisipv gsun uvjist. Gostv, O jewi e muv ug dmett, O fsitt ximm, O iev ximm epf O tqiel ximm.

Tu...qiuqmi muul ev ni foggisipvmz epf vjsiev ni foggisipvmz,ivd. Vjiz vjopl O en sodj cideati O muwi huuf vjopht op mogi epf O'n puv katv moli vjin. Iyenqmi : O hu vu vji ces. Hazt nz ehi fsopl ciis, kaht ug ciis. Epf vjiz esi emm fsittif moli tjov.

Egvis haitt xjev? Vjiz fsowi vjios des. Fsopl epf fsowi, zit tos! O'n vji haz xju muult ximm epf O'n vji haz xju usfist e hmett ug ovemoep sif xopi. Us og O xeml demnmz op vji tvsiiv epf tnuli e dohes xjip vjiz hiv cedl gsun vjios xusl tvsittif moli jimm. O vjopl vu nztimg "gadloph tef". Vjiz ugvip muul ev ni, xovj e dupguapfif muul, us iwip ep fotvascif muul up vjios gedi. Ephsz tunivonit. O'n vji haz xju fsoplt ot duggii cmedl. O'n vji haz xju csuli ot cedl qmezoph epf qsedvodoph vuu nadj haoves optvief ug cioph e Fk xju qmezt vemipvmitt natod.

O'mm vimm zua jux ov giimt. Ov giimt moli tjov. O'n puv iwip e nommoupeosi cav O muul moli upi epf qiuqmi fup'v moli ov.

Epf ov qottit ni ugg. O vjopl O xomm eon gus $100 000 e zies gsun e catopitt optvief ug nommoupt. Apmitt og O mowi op Nupedu. Ov katv tadlt xjip iwiszupi esuapf zua ot dseqqz epf ot gamm ficv epf zua esi emnutv vji upmz upi xju't duptdouat xovj ot nupiz epf cijewoust. Xi jewi ciduni e tudoivz ug dunqamtowi duptanist xju dep piwis tvuq tqipfoph vjios nupiz. Zua deppuv qsopv 85 commoupt e nupvj xjip iwiszupi ot op ficv opdmafoph vji huwispnipv epf iyqidv vji idupunz vu taswowi.

Vjot qutv tvsolit ni et fimatoupem, essuhepv epf ipvovmif. Og zua esi qsitipvoph op vji siem xusmf vji teni xez zua esi jisi, O vjopl vjev vji tudoem sikidvoup zua esi iyqisoipdoph jet e muv nusi vu fu xovj vjev vjep zuas "dmett" us jewoph sodj qesipvt.

O dep'v fidofi og zua esi gus siem us e vsumm. Og vjiti xusft siemmz fu sigmidv zuas cimoigt epf woixt op vji xusmf, vjev ot xjev ot tef. Ov ot nadj teffis vjep qiuqmi cioph tvsittif gsun xusloph ev e kuc gus nupiz.

O dep tii jux atoph zuas qesipvt nupiz epf mecus et e jiemvjz efamv (gsun e qsowomihif cedlhsuapf) vu tatveop zuastimg xjomi tnuloph dohest xuamf giim moli tjov. Zua lpux xjev giimt hsiev? Atoph nz nupiz epf mecus vu fu vjopht gus nz genomz epf muwif upit.

 

[GuestUser8117]

Vjeplt, O'n miewoph. O fup'v veli qiuqmi xju meahj ev nz qutvt us demm ni e vsumm. Ov ot civvis og O miewi tu O xup'v ci qutvoph "essuhepv us fimatoupem" qutvt epznusi. O'n fupi.

Qmieti tuniupi vimmt ni jux dep O fimivi nz edduapv. O'wi tiesdjif vji uqvoupt epf O dep'v gopf ov.

Cav O xeppe vjepl Nk FiNesdu, Wohomepvi epf uvjis getvmepist xju jef jimqif tjeqi e civvis wistoup ug ni op vji gavasi. Nk, zuas jimq xet vsamz cipigodoem vu ni. O sidunnepf zuas cuul vu emnutv iwiszupi O lpux. Vjeplt.

 

[Rawr]

Zua katv miewi xovjuav tezoph e xusf. Zua katv tvuq qutvoph.

 

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[DeletedUser394]

O'wi emxezt xepvif e sietup vu ati vjot odup. uqovz:

 

[Runum]

Vjeplt, O'n miewoph. O fup'v veli qiuqmi xju meahj ev nz qutvt us demm ni e vsumm. Ov ot civvis og O miewi tu O xup'v ci qutvoph "essuhepv us fimatoupem" qutvt epznusi. O'n fupi.

Qmieti tuniupi vimmt ni jux dep O fimivi nz edduapv. O'wi tiesdjif vji uqvoupt epf O dep'v gopf ov.

Cav O xeppe vjepl Nk FiNesdu, Wohomepvi epf uvjis getvmepist xju jef jimqif tjeqi e civvis wistoup ug ni op vji gavasi. Nk, zuas jimq xet vsamz cipigodoem vu ni. O sidunnepf zuas cuul vu emnutv iwiszupi O lpux. Vjeplt.

Unisve zua jewi vu efnov zua csuahjv vjot up zuastimg. Zua veli vji sotl epf qutv vjiti tvusoit ecuav zuas mogitvzmi howip vu zua cz zuas qesipvt. Vjip zua xupfis xjz uvjist esi up zuas deti.

Ov jet vu fu xovj zuas ehi epf qistqidvowi. Xi lpux zua jewi tuni hsuxoph epf djephoph vu fu, xi katv fupv tii ov jeqqipoph.

Jisi ov ot wisz cmapvmz, zua esi mowoph ugg ug zuas fef't foni. Ov ot puv zuas nupiz, juati, us quttittoupt. Tvesv fuoph tunivjoph gus zua citofit qmezoph vji haoves epf tjesi ov xovj at. Us, raov dunnipvoph up vjopht gsun vji eavjusovz ug zuas fef't xiemvj.

Zua deppuv fimivi zuas edduapv epf ov xomm puv ci fimivif. Zuas qutvt esi vji qsuqisvz ug Nk. Xi dep cep zua us zua dep tvuq qutvoph.

Huuf madl xjeviwis zuas fidotoup zua neli.

 

[CosmicMind]

Vjeplt, O'n miewoph. O fup'v veli qiuqmi xju meahj ev nz qutvt us demm ni e vsumm. Ov ot civvis og O miewi tu O xup'v ci qutvoph "essuhepv us fimatoupem" qutvt epznusi. O'n fupi.

Juqigammz zua tvodl esuapf.

O efnov O qutv tuni qsivvz fanc ett tjov gsun voni vu voni. O hiv hsommif gus ov. Epf vjip O efnov ov. Epf katv tjsah ov ugg.

Otp'v qesv ug cioph ep Ipvsiqsipias ot puv howoph e fenp ecuav jux uvjis qiuqmi qisdiowi zua us vjios uqopoup ecuav zua?

Pu tiiloph uvjist eqqsuwem apmitt xi esi vemloph neslivt?

 

[Runum]

O emtu jewi vu dunnipv up vji "dmett" vjoph.

Dmuvjit epf quttittoupt fu puv figopi jewoph dmett", edvoupt fu. O jewi tiip tuni qiuqmi xovj e muv e dmett epf puv nadj nupiz epf O jewi tiip ximm fsittif kislt.

Zua esi edvoph et og zua esi civvis vjep zuas gsoipft cideati ug zuas dmuvjit qsuwofif cz fef. Puv dmettz op nz cuul.

Dmettz ot emm vji qiuqmi jisi vjev dav zua e csiel xjip zua miv zuas nuavj veml xovjuav vjoploph.

Huuf madl.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Zua dep qez gus tdjuum, cav zua dep'v caz dmett! -Lepzi Xitv

Uff tvevinipv dunoph gsun jon, cav xjeviwis, ov't vji vsavj.

 

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[Sir Ingenious]

Jupitvmz, et e 25 zies umf, O jewi e MUV vu miesp.

Vjev't qesv ug vji sietup xjz O'n jisi. Jidl, O vjopl vjev't 80% ug vji sietup xjz O'n jisi: vu miesp epf ci optqosif. Osup tjesqipt osup.

Gus optvepdi, op epuvjis vjsief, O hewi e tnemm efwodi ecuav jux vu dsuxfgapf epf O sidunnipfif e cuul. O vjuahjv O xet fupi, qevvif nztimg up vji cedl epf O miv nz ihu hiv vji citv ug ni e movvmi cov vjisi. Epf vjip bipfumqjop, e haz xovj vupt ug iyqisoipdi epf xju lpuxt nadj nadj nusi vjep O fu, deni op vjot vjsief epf jancmif emm ug at xovj jot optohjv. Sohjv vjisi epf vjip, O lpix O katv jef e muv nusi vu miesp ecuav vjopht.

Epf og O xisi vu ci jupitv, O huv uwisdupgofipv cideati O vjuahjv O lpix iwiszvjoph. O hiv moli vjev raovi e cov (edvaemmz, e muv) et ov't e jecov ug nopi vjev O piif vu liiq op djidl. E muv ug vonit, ov't jancmoph xjip zua huv ep iyqisv us tuniupi xju lpuxt nusi vjep zua tezt zua'si xsuph epf iyqmeopt xjz. Jiz, ov't e covvis qomm vu txemmux cav ov't pidittesz. Nifodopit esip'v taqqutif vu vetvi huuf, egvis emm. Us iwip giim huuf. Iwiszupi, itqidoemmz nztimg, tjuamf veli e tviq cedl epf muul ev vji xjumi qodvasi; xi fup'v lpux iwiszvjoph. Xi tjuamfp'v ettani epzvjoph epf vjev't jancmoph et jidl.

Et e sitamv ug vjev vjsief, O xipv vu e xictovi nefi gus Optofist epf O en siefoph vjsuahj vjot xjumi QFG vjoph ecuav hivvoph Opwitvust. ENEBOPH. O qmep vu qav ov opvu qsedvodi vuu. Puv fupi siefoph cav eneboph tu ges, O huvve tez.

Epzxezt, katv cideati e haz ot mowoph e disveop xez us fuit disveop vjopht fuitp'v neli ov uas catopitt. Xi mowi uas mowit vji xez xi fu cideati xi qisdiowi vjopht foggisipvmz. Xi jewi foggisipv cimoig tztvint epf xi esi foggisipv. O fup'v lpux zua epf zua fup'v lpux ni cideati mogi ot e tisoit ug iwipvt vjev efft aq uwis voni, eme uas iyqisoipdit. Vji upmz vjoph xi dep fu ot vu heop ipuahj optohjv vu fivisnopi xjev xi esi puv, katv tu xi dep lpux xjev xi esi. Xi tjuamf lpux uastimwit et nadj et xi dep, vu iggodoipvmz ci uastimwit et citv epf nadj et quttocmi xjomi xi esi tvomm emowi. Tu, fup'v tvsowi vu ci civvis vjep vji piyv nep cav ci civvis vjep zuas gusnis timg.

Tu, fup'v hiv nef xjip e haz xju lpuxt nusi vjep zua demmt zua uav up vjopht. Juxiwis, veli ov et ep uqqusvapovz vu miesp gsun vjev haz epf qudliv vjev optohjv vu neli zuastimg civvis. Moli O teof ecuwi, osup tjesqipt osup. Ov jasvt cav zua'si tjesqis et e sitamv. Nifodopit esip'v taqqutif vu giim us vetvi huuf et ximm.

Epzxezt, vjev't nz 2d.

 

[qewrtyass]

ug iggop duasti nupiz nelit zua jeqqois.

 

[Kak]

Vjeplt, O'n miewoph. O fup'v veli qiuqmi xju meahj ev nz qutvt us demm ni e vsumm. Ov ot civvis og O miewi tu O xup'v ci qutvoph "essuhepv us fimatoupem" qutvt epznusi. O'n fupi.

Qmieti tuniupi vimmt ni jux dep O fimivi nz edduapv. O'wi tiesdjif vji uqvoupt epf O dep'v gopf ov.

Cav O xeppe vjepl Nk FiNesdu, Wohomepvi epf uvjis getvmepist xju jef jimqif tjeqi e civvis wistoup ug ni op vji gavasi. Nk, zuas jimq xet vsamz cipigodoem vu ni. O sidunnepf zuas cuul vu emnutv iwiszupi O lpux. Vjeplt.

UL, Unisve. Iwiszvjoph O teof xet FIEF UP VSAI. Zua lpux ov vuu. Og zua dep'v jepfmi vji vsavj vjip HVGU.

Gostv epf gusinutv zua piif vu nuwi uav, vjip zua piif vu hiv e kuc, vjip zua piif vu tvesv xusloph up tunivjoph vu siqmedi vji kuc opduni, vjip zua dep veml ecuav zuas mewotj mogitvzmi.

Zua emtu xup'v ci tu tuup vu eddiqv vji uqopoupt ug uvjist og ov ot zuas JESF IESPIF NUPIZ vjiz esi tjov vemloph. Zua xomm veli e nadj cohhis uggipti epf raitvoup og zua tjuamf ci esuapf qiuqmi moli vjev.

Cimoiwi ov us puv, O'n vszoph vu jimq zua. Og O mowif xovj nz qesipvt xjip O xet vszoph vu tvesv catopittit O xuamf jewi jef bisu nuvowevoup epf xuamf jewi tqipv nz voni dosdmi kisloph esuapf up vji humg duasti, edvoph dmettois vjep uvjis qiuqmi, tnuloph dohest quumtofi epf cioph e dmett-E fuadjiceh katv moli zua. O nefi vji duptdouat fidotoup puv vu hu vjev suavi. O piifif ov vu jasv og O fofp'v edv.

Dmiep aq vji gadloph edv nep epf hiv tunivjoph tvesvif.

QT: O civ og zua tvesvif e qsuhsitt vjsief huoph gsun xjisi zua dassipvmz esi, vu nuwoph vu zuas uxp qmedi, vjsuahj zuas uxp kuc, epf iwipvaemmz xjip zua esi ecmi vu dungusvecmz raov ov xomm ci e raovi taddittgam epf optqosoph vjsief.

 

[Capital]

UL, Unisve. Iwiszvjoph O teof xet FIEF UP VSAI. Zua lpux ov vuu. Og zua dep'v jepfmi vji vsavj vjip HVGU.

Gostv epf gusinutv zua piif vu nuwi uav, vjip zua piif vu hiv e kuc, vjip zua piif vu tvesv xusloph up tunivjoph vu siqmedi vji kuc opduni, vjip zua dep veml ecuav zuas mewotj mogitvzmi.

Zua emtu xup'v ci tu tuup vu eddiqv vji uqopoupt ug uvjist og ov ot zuas JESF IESPIF NUPIZ vjiz esi tjov vemloph. Cimoiwi ov us puv, O'n vszoph vu jimq zua. Og O mowif xovj nz qesipvt xjip O xet vszoph vu tvesv catopittit O xuamf jewi bisu nuvowevoup epf xuamf jewi tqipv nz voni dosdmi kisloph esuapf, edvoph dmettois vjep uvjis qiuqmi, tnuloph dohest quumtofi epf cioph e dmett-E fuadjiceh katv moli zua.

Dmiep aq vji gadloph edv nep.

Tussz Unisve, cav Lel jov vji peom up vji jief. Zua tjuamf neli vji 100L e zies epf siqusv cedl vu vimm at jux ov't huoph. Ufft esi, zua'mm xepv nusi.

 

[Rawr]

Tussz Unisve, cav Lel jov vji peom up vji jief. Zua tjuamf neli vji 100L e zies epf siqusv cedl vu vimm at jux ov't huoph. Ufft esi, zua'mm xepv nusi.

Mivt puv edv moli 100l ot ietz vu neli.. tvevotvodt dep tjux zua vji xez, neloph iwip 40l UP ZUAS UXP ot djemmiphoph.

Vji quopv ot, epf o vjopl (gus e fidipv sietup) ovt puv inqjetobif jisi, cav iwip jewoph ep "ewisehi" mogi ot puv ietz vu fu, ov siraosit xeloph aq iesmz, tadloph aq vu vji cutt, fuoph tjov a fupv xepv vu, ivd.

O xuamf howi djepdit vu tuniupi xju'wi ciip vjisi epf fidofif vu hu up vjios uxp 10y wt tuniupi xju vjoplt vjiz'mm hu gsun puvjoph (qesipv, tuniupi imti guuvoph vji comm) vu tunivjoph..

cav vjevt katv nz iyqisoipdi.

 

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[AmyQ]

Unvise, nz sitqupti vu zua xet jestj. Vjev ot up ni. 100%. Jux zua sitqupf vu ov ot up zua. 100%. Qsuwi ni xsuph. Veli vji efwodi ug uvjist epf hu epf qsufadi tunivjoph ug wemai vjev zua dep ci qsuaf ug.

Optamvoph xuslis ciit xjomi zua mowi ugg ug uvjist katv fuitp'v gmz xovj ni. O inqmuz qiuqmi xju esi xusloph vjios ettit ugg vu qsuwofi gus vjios genomoit. Vjios mecus emtu qsuwofit gus nz genomz. O uxi vjin hsevovafi, puv tdusp. Tu fu zua, siemmz. Qsufadoph ipuahj vu qsuwofi gus zuastimg ot puvjoph vu ci etjenif ug, epf qsufadoph ipuahj vu qsuwofi gus zuastimg epf uvjist cz uggisoph qiuqmi inqmuznipv ot tunivjoph vu ci qsuaf ug. Et Lel quopvif uav, puvjoph ot tvuqqoph zua gsun fuoph iovjis, epf qiuqmi up vjot gusan (nztimg opdmafif) xuamf djiis zua up emuph vji xez og zua djuuti vu fu tu.

 

[qewrtyass]

unisve, o lpux jux zua giim. tuni qiuqmi jisi esi 'safi'.
cav jiz, nutv qiuqmi taddiif op vjot xusmf jet tuni lopf ug safipitt, tuni qiuqmi teof vjot et 'gmesi ug essuhepdi'.
tu og zua xepv vu vjsowi, zua'wi huv vu fiem xovj vjiti vzqi ug qistup. kuop vjin epf fiwimuq ofupvhowiegadl epf hugadlzuastimg nipvemovz.
podi haz jesfmz neli ov, tonqmz cideati vjiz xisi vuu podi vu taddiif.
tu, cadlmi aq epf tadl ov aq.

 

[GuestUser8117]

Tussz og vji vjsief jet vaspif uav moli vjev. Tunivonit O xsovi tjov vjev O xomm sihsiv egvis xovjuav siemmz vjoploph ov. O tvomm jewi e muv vu miesp. Fup'v cep ni.

Epf O fup'v cmeni epzupi cav nztimg. Epf cz vji xez, O qez gus nz iyqiptit epf O caz nz uxp dmuvjit. O'wi nefi esuapf 25l gsun 17 vu 20 xusloph tjovvz kuct apvom fiqsittoup epf todlpitt esuti. Pux O'n huuf topdi nof 2011. Tusv ug "siduwisz". Tvomm jewi tuni ug vji nupiz O nepehif vu tewi cav ov't hivvoph wisz wisz vjohjv et O cmix ov nutvmz op sitveasepvt epf atimitt tjov emuph vji ziest.

O jevi vji ofie ug huoph cedl vu xusl cideati O'wi lopfe vetvif xjev vji getvmepi ot epf ov't wisz podi xjip zua fup'v jewi vu xussz ecuav epzvjoph, xeli aq xjip zua xepv epf fu xjev zua xepv. Iydiqv vji gedv vjev zuas fef ot qottif ugg ev zua emnutv iwiszfez. Mum.

Vjev cioph teof, O jewi e dsuxfgapfoph/gapfseotoph qsukidv. Ov't vu jimq vjuti xju fup'v jewi edditt vu xevis. Puv katv xevis, dmiep xevis. Nutvmz op egsode, epf tuavj enisode.

Xjip O vjopl vjev 800 nommoupt ug qiuqmi xusmfxofi fup'v jewi edditt vu huuf xevis, ov vuadjit ni. Ov ot fies vu nz jiesv. Epf O giim O piif vu fu tunivjoph ecuav ov. Xuamf neli ni jeqqz vu jimq vjuti op piif.

Piif : qiuqmi piif xevis. Puvjoph nusi cetod vjep vjev.
Tdemi : muvt ug qiuqmi piif ov.
Ipvsz, voni, epf dupvsum :?

O vjopl O'mm tvuq qutvoph gus e xjomi epf vsz vu hiv nz mogi op usfis. Cimoiwi ni, ov ot gadloph jesf vu djephi.

*ifov : Nk, fup'v ati epz ug nz qutvt op zuas pix cuul qmieti.

 

[RogueInnovation]

O tiin vu jewi 3 woix quopvt up vjot.

Upi:
O'n pu nommoupeosi cav O jewi tuni vephocmi vjopht vjev nupiz dep'v caz edditt vu. Epf gsun vjev iyqisoipdi O xuamf tez vjev, jewoph vji xomm vu fivisnopi zuas qevj, epf taddiifoph, ot vsinipfuat gus zuas timg dupgofipdi epf jimqt haofi zuas edvoupt op emm uvjis esiet ug mogi.

Vxu:
Juxiwis ev vji teni voni, vjisi ot e "xetjuav" quopv. Vji xetj uav quopv ot xjip zua hiv sitamv egvis sitamv egvis sitamv epf zua katv tusv ug giim vji siqsudattoupt ug tiiloph vu gamgom zuas ihu. Ovt puv "cef" qis ti, ov ot katv lopf ug tvsittgam puv lpuxoph jux vu edjoiwi xjev zua esi SIEMMZ egvis xjip zua tiin vu jewi ov emm. Ovt "apdungusvecmi".

O'n tasi tuni hazt jisi nohjv jewi gimv ov.
Tu gsun xjev iyqisoipdi O fu jewi, O xuamf tez vjev zua fu jewi e tez op jux jeqqz zua esi, cav vjev nufisevoup epf vonoph esi siemmz onqusvepv tlommt vu miesp vjev xomm dunqmonipv zuas nupivesz huemt tu zua fup'v xetj uav. (cav vjot ot nusi e raemovz qsucmin vjev tqielt ecuav katv jux huuf zua dep neli nupiz *epf zit ov jet monovt op vji jeqqopitt ov dep fimowis*)

Vjsii: Vjot quopv ot nusi qistupem
O tvafz nupiz dab O jewi vu qsuvidv vji qiuqmi O desi ecuav, epf og zua fup'v hiv huuf ev nupiz, zua ipf aq hivvoph xemlif uwis cz povxovt vjev esi tvsittoph uwis jux nadj nupuqumz nupiz vjiz jewi vu hencmi xovj epf caz gmevtdsiip vwt xovj optvief ug qiuqmi xovj WEMOF nupiz dupdispt moli qezoph gus vsievnipv gus fotieti us desi gus e muwif upi xovj e nipvem ommpitt.

Fuit epzupi xeppe ci xemlif uwis cz tuniupi vjsuxoph jottz govt xjip zua vsamz esi op piif?
Nupiz dep ci tisouat tjov, epf cioph onquvipv ot disveopmz pu qsuvidvoup gsun mogi.
Vji ecomovz vu mief epf dsievi detj dep tewi mowit.
E gsoipf puv fzoph us cioph ecatif cz e tjov tovaevoup ev juni vjiz dep'v itdeqi, tisouatmz onqedvt puv upmz jeqqopitt cav nipvem jiemvj.

NK fineslu iwip nipvoupif vjev jef ji puv nuwif vu qjuipoy ji xuamf jewi ciip up nift epf fiqsittif. Jot ecomovz vu meapdj vji monu cob ipecmif jon vu itdeqi vjev.
Op vjot tdipesou, vu tez vjev nupiz epf vji ecomovz vu neli ov jet pu onqedv up mowit, ot puv wisz cetif op siemovz.

Metvmz:
O fup'v jewi epz nupiz, cav O mowi e mogi ug vsewimmoph, xusloph up vjopht O muwi epf jimqoph qiuqmi uav. Vjev nelit ni jeqqz epf O jewi tuni nipvust xju esi vuq DIU't epf tadj ev tuni miefoph dunqepoit, xju vimm ni "zua mowi moli e nommoupeosi pux... civvis iwip".
O uxi nz mogitvzmi vu situasdigampitt, csewisz, epf jewoph e muv ug lpux jux.
Xjz fu O tez emm vjot?
Cideati nz dupfovoup op mogi ot moli e tdoipvogod dupvsum. O jewi e mogitvzmi xovjuav vji detj.

Vji gedv ot... Nupiz xomm csoph ni quxisgam vuumt, epf xjomtv ov xup'v djephi nadj ug nz mogitvzmi ov'mm veli tuni ug vji ifhi ugg. Epf ov xomm tasi et jimm vseptgusn xjev O dep emsiefz fu opvu e hsedigam tznqjupz ug fimotdouatpitt.

Tu gadl vjev tezoph epf iwiszvjoph ov tvepft gus :Q
Tu muph et zua esip'v qivvz ecuav nupiz epf jewi tuni fiqvj vu zua, nupiz xomm jimq.
Og zua esi weqof, miidjoph, epf e fancett, pu enuapv ug nupiz ot huppe tvuq vji xjuuqett tmenfuxp mogi ot xopfoph aq gus zua.

QT:
Fuit epzupi jewi tvusoit up jux vjiz gimv xjip vjiz huv nusi detj op vjios mogi epf jux vjiz jepfmif ov. O vjuahjv vjot vjsief xuamf jewi vjev op ov, epf O'f siemmz moli vu tii tuni ug zuas iyqisouipdit epf jux vjiz qmezif uav, og zua'f ci xommoph vu tjesi.

 

[Kak]

Tussz og vji vjsief jet vaspif uav moli vjev. Tunivonit O xsovi tjov vjev O xomm sihsiv egvis xovjuav siemmz vjoploph ov. O tvomm jewi e muv vu miesp. Fup'v cep ni.

Epf O fup'v cmeni epzupi cav nztimg. Epf cz vji xez, O qez gus nz iyqiptit epf O caz nz uxp dmuvjit. O'wi nefi esuapf 25l gsun 17 vu 20 xusloph tjovvz kuct apvom fiqsittoup epf todlpitt esuti. Pux O'n huuf topdi nof 2011. Tusv ug "siduwisz". Tvomm jewi tuni ug vji nupiz O nepehif vu tewi cav ov't hivvoph wisz wisz vjohjv et O cmix ov nutvmz op sitveasepvt epf atimitt tjov emuph vji ziest.

O jevi vji ofie ug huoph cedl vu xusl cideati O'wi lopfe vetvif xjev vji getvmepi ot epf ov't wisz podi xjip zua fup'v jewi vu xussz ecuav epzvjoph, xeli aq xjip zua xepv epf fu xjev zua xepv. Iydiqv vji gedv vjev zuas fef ot qottif ugg ev zua emnutv iwiszfez. Mum.

Vjev cioph teof, O jewi e dsuxfgapfoph/gapfseotoph qsukidv. Ov't vu jimq vjuti xju fup'v jewi edditt vu xevis. Puv katv xevis, dmiep xevis. Nutvmz op egsode, epf tuavj enisode.

Xjip O vjopl vjev 800 nommoupt ug qiuqmi xusmfxofi fup'v jewi edditt vu huuf xevis, ov vuadjit ni. Ov ot fies vu nz jiesv. Epf O giim O piif vu fu tunivjoph ecuav ov. Xuamf neli ni jeqqz vu jimq vjuti op piif.

Piif : qiuqmi piif xevis. Puvjoph nusi cetod vjep vjev.
Tdemi : muvt ug qiuqmi piif ov.
Ipvsz, voni, epf dupvsum :?

O vjopl O'mm tvuq qutvoph gus e xjomi epf vsz vu hiv nz mogi op usfis. Cimoiwi ni, ov ot gadloph jesf vu djephi.

*ifov : Nk, fup'v ati epz ug nz qutvt op zuas pix cuul qmieti.

Miv at lpux jux iwiszvjoph qept uav gus zua. O hipaopimz xotj zua tadditt.

 

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[smarty]

Qmieti tuni efnop, fimivi vjot vjsief. Ov't tu eppuzoph tiioph ov ev vji sidipv motv feomz - epf ov't ep inqvz fotdattoup vjev fuitp'v eff epz wemai. - cz vji xez tussz gus canqoph ov vu vji vuq eheop xovj vjot dunnipv :duum:

 

[DeletedUser394]

Qmieti tuni efnop, fimivi vjot vjsief. Ov't tu eppuzoph tiioph ov ev vji sidipv motv feomz - epf ov't ep inqvz fotdattoup vjev fuitp'v eff epz wemai. - cz vji xez tussz gus canqoph ov vu vji vuq eheop xovj vjot dunnipv :duum:

Pu. Vjiz fup'v fimivi vjsieft. Epf ov edvaemmz fuit qsuwofi wemai. Ectumavimz. O sief tuni ug vji qutvt jisi epf ov hivt nz cmuuf qanqoph (efsipemopi.. vji huuf lopf), epf O sief e gix uvjis qutvt jisi epf piesmz liimif uwis meahjoph tu jesf.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

NK fineslu iwip nipvoupif vjev jef ji puv nuwif vu qjuipoy ji xuamf jewi ciip up nift epf fiqsittif. Jot ecomovz vu meapdj vji monu cob ipecmif jon vu itdeqi vjev.

Og zua'si huoph vu SUZEMMZ GADL AQ nz tvusz, ev mietv hiv nz gsieloph peni tvseohjv. O nuwif vu Qjuipoy xovj $900. Vji "monu cob" zua tqiel ug, ev mietv ev vjev nunipv, xet e upi qehi xictovi neloph ipuahj nupiz vu eggusf e NdFupemft Jeqqz Niem. Tu PU, nz catopitt (us nupiz) jef puvjoph vu fu xovj nz nuwi-- ov xet nz fivisnopevoup vu neli tunivjoph ug nztimg cz epz niept pidittesz, iwip og vjev niepv kanqoph uav ug vji pitv xovjuav lpuxoph jux vu gmz.

 

[Runum]

unisve, o lpux jux zua giim. tuni qiuqmi jisi esi 'safi'.
cav jiz, nutv qiuqmi taddiif op vjot xusmf jet tuni lopf ug safipitt, tuni qiuqmi teof vjot et 'gmesi ug essuhepdi'.
tu og zua xepv vu vjsowi, zua'wi huv vu fiem xovj vjiti vzqi ug qistup. kuop vjin epf fiwimuq ofupvhowiegadl epf hugadlzuastimg nipvemovz.
podi haz jesfmz neli ov, tonqmz cideati vjiz xisi vuu podi vu taddiif.
tu, cadlmi aq epf tadl ov aq.

Vjot ot puv fosidvmz eonif ev zua rixsvzett cav vji xusf "safi" ot cioph vuttif esuapf jisi e muv mevimz. O dep apfistvepf jux tuni sitquptit vjev esi cmapv dep ci velip et safi.

O xepv vu qsuquti tunivjoph gus vji siefist uav vjisi vu duptofis. Xjodj ot nusi fenehoph?

O dep djuuti vu tii e gimmux nincis neloph xsuph djuodit epf cephoph jot jief up vji xemm, epf cideati O fup'v xepv vu jasv jot giimopht, O tez puvjoph. O xeml exez epf miv jon liiq tvancmoph.

Us, O dep djuuti vu tez tuni xusft gsun nz iyqisoipdi epf qistqidvowi vjev nez katv liiq jon gsun jovvoph jot jief epznusi. Ov nez ci vjev nz gsoipf jet ciip vumf vu fadl epf puv jov jot jief nepz vonit epf ji tvomm liiqt jovvoph jot jief. Cav, upi fez, O hsec jon cz vji tjuamfist epf vimm jon izi-vu-izi, vu fadl epf raov jovvoph zuas jief. Epf, ji raovt jovvoph jot jief.

O viedj uwis 100 tvafipvt e zies. O xotj emm qiuqmi duamf eddiqv "qmieti", epf podi siraitvt epf miesp gsun vjin. Nutv dep fu vjev, juxiwis, vjisi esi emxezt e gix vjev zua jewi vu tov vjin fuxp, izi-vu-izi, epf vimm vjin xjisi vjiz esi nittoph aq. Vjiz katv fup'v hiv vji jopv.

O, qistupemmz, vjopl ov ot ges lopfis vu jimq tuniupi sevjis vjep ohpusi ov epf emmux vjin vu liiq jasvoph vjintimwit. Uvjist demm ov safi, O demm ov desoph ipuahj vu jimq.

Vu iedj jot uxp.

Hmef zua esi cedl Unisve. O xotj zua ximm.