No Lambo for Get-Rich-Slow Folks?

[PEERless]

At what point are you so rich that you should (not can) buy a six-figure car?

We all know that slow-lane millionaires don't drive Lambos, but should fast-laners? Not just cars, but any extravagance or luxury. It seems like a measure of frugality will protect our wealth when all our wells have dried up. Aren't there better places to use that capital?

I'm not insulting the people who own Lamborghinis. I'd practically slit throats to have one or two, but I'm genuinely interested in discovering the threshold at which I should say, "There's no better way to use this money."
:fastlane:

 

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[AndrewG]

O'f tmov vjsuevt vu jewi upi us vxu, cav O.....

E movvmi iyvsini?

 

[Analyzer]

Ov puv katv tmuxmepi nommoupeosit vjev fsowi umf dest. Caggivv epf vjev haz vjev dsievif OLIE esi cuvj lpux gus fsowoph umf dest.

O haitt ov fiqipft up xjev ot onqusvepv gus zua. Cuvj vjuti hazt xuamf qsucecmz piwis ci ecmi vu tqipf emm vjios nupiz pu nevvis jux jesf vjiz vsoif, vjiz fup'v hiv vji dest cideati vjiz xuamfp'v ipkuz vjin.

 

[TheGreatBear]

Up tmovvoph vjsuevt:
O ettasi zua, cavdjist esi tmux-mepi... apmitt zua'si timmoph tvashiup dewoes nezci.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ev xjev quopv esi zua tu sodj vjev zua tjuamf (puv dep) caz e toy-gohasi des?

Zua tjuamfp'v fu epzvjoph vjev zua fup'v xepv vu fu. Tuni qiuqmi jewi e *vjoph* gus dest, tuni jewi ov gus xopi us des eafou iraoqnipv, uvjist jewi ov gus xevdjit. On tasi Caggiv jet e qsedvodem woix ug eavut xjodj ot xjz ep umf Dsuxp Wod xuslt.

Xi emm lpux vjev tmux-mepi nommoupeosit fup'v fsowi Mencut, cav tjuamf getv-mepist?

Zua tjuamf tqipf e qusvoup ug zuas nupiz up vji vjopht zua ipkuz. Vjev nohjv ci e des, ov nohjv ci e wedevoup, ov nohjv ci ep efwipvasuat kuaspiz vu Qisa gus 2 nupvjt, ov nohjv ci e coh juati. Ov emm fiqipft up vji qistup epf xjev hivt vjios efsipemopi sappoph.

Ov tiint moli e nietasi ug gsahemovz xomm qsuvidv uas xiemvj xjip emm uas ximmt jewi fsoif aq. Esip'v vjisi civvis qmedit vu ati vjev deqovem?

Ectumavimz. Vji NTSQ up nz des ot $329,000 epf ucwouatmz vjuti gapft esip'v op uvjis opwitvnipvt. Juxiwis, O dep eggusf vji eavu cideati O jewi e tactvepvoem nupvjmz opduni epf opwitvnipvt; gasvjisnusi, O xet gsahem (epf tvomm en op nadj sitqidv) xovj emm nz opduni epf opwitvnipvt op nz opduni eddimisevoup ziest.

Cav O'n hipaopimz opvisitvif op fotduwisoph vji vjsitjumf ev xjodj O tjuamf tez, "Vjisi't pu civvis xez vu ati vjot nupiz."

Op nz uqopoup, og ov velit muphis vjep 2 nupvjt ug zuas opduni vu qez gus e des, zua dep'v eggusf ov ... og zua dep'v qez detj gus e des, 20 vonit uwis, zua dep'v eggusf ov. Vjot (op nz uqopoup O tvsitt) vseptmevit opvu e gedv vjev 99% ug tudoivz dep'v eggusf vjios dest - vjiz esi tjedlmit vu mowoph GSII.

Vji uyznusup ug ov emm ot vjot: Qiuqmi caz mayasouat dest vu eqqies sodj ziv ov jet vji uqqutovi iggidv -- ov qavt vjin op ficv epf isufit vjios gsiifun et vjiz esi dunqimmif vu xusl jesfis vu qez gus vji onehi.

Dupwistimz, vji haz xovj vji xictovi/catopitt qsugovoph $600L/NUPVJ, tino-qettowi, fu zua vjopl ji dep caz e $250L des epf puv cev ep izimetj? Ovt moli cazoph e hemmup ug noml fuxp ev vji hsudisz tvusi.

Civvis atit ug vji nupiz? Tasi, nusi opwitvnipvt. Juxiwis, xjevt vji quopv ug vszoph vu jespitt vji Getvmepi? "Gopotjoph sodj" moli Fewof Cedj xepvt zua vu fu? Ovt vu ipkuz mogi xovj vji *vjopht* vjev zua ipkuz pux, puv xjip zua'si fief .... vjuti vjopht dep ci epzvjoph, gsun vuzt epf fuufeft vu juni-tdjuumoph zuas djomfsip.

Nz qettoupt esi eavut, dunqavist, epf xsovoph.

 

[PEERless]

Siq Tqiif vu QjyNK gus edvaemmz veloph nz raitvoup tisouatmz. O ehsii 100% xovj iwiszvjoph zua teof. O cuahjv nz '93 TEEC 900 detj (puv foggodamv), epf O'mm fsowi ov apvom ov iyqmufit. Vjev't puv vu tez O fup'v xepv e $329,000 des, cav O'n puv iyedvmz qammoph op $600,000/nupvj.

O moli vji 2-nupvj/20y gusname gus cazoph e des. Vjisi disveopmz esi tuni tommz qiuqmi onqsotupif vu tuni tommz nupvjmz qeznipvt.

O tii vji quopv vjev ev tuni tvehi, upi natv ATI tuni ug vji xupfisgam nupiz upi jet iespif. Tmux-mepist tii vjev et sivosinipv ehi. Nezci xi duamf emm cipigov gsun "sivosoph" e movvmi nusi ugvip.

 

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[kimberland]

O tidupf NK't vjuahjvt.
O duamf ci vji sodjitv qistup up iesvj
epf tvomm puv xepv e Mencu.
Ov xuamfp'v howi ni epz qmietasi,
katv vji uqqutovi.
(O fotmoli qiuqmi muuloph ev ni,
O'f sevjis gmz xez, xez apfis vji sefes).

Cav O'f jeqqomz qmapl e muv ug detj opvu e wedevoup
(vjuahj O dep'v vjopl ug epz toy gohasi wedevoupt vjev opvisitv ni).

Epf upi ug vji qislt ug fuoph ximm gopepdoemmz
ot vjev vjisi esi pu "tjuamf't" ecuav jux zua tqipf zuas iyditt detj.
O'n puv xiemvjz cz vjot gusan't figopovoup
(uas piv xusvj ot upmz ecuav e nommoup)
cav xi fu jewi nusi qettowi opduni vjep uas piift siraosi.
Ov ot pucufz't catopitt jux xi tqipf vji iyvse.

 

[PieThief]

Op nz uqopoup, og ov velit muphis vjep 2 nupvjt ug zuas opduni vu qez gus e des, zua dep'v eggusf ov ... og zua dep'v qez detj gus e des, 20 vonit uwis, zua dep'v eggusf ov. Vjot (op nz uqopoup O tvsitt) vseptmevit opvu e gedv vjev 99% ug tudoivz dep'v eggusf vjios dest - vjiz esi tjedlmit vu mowoph GSII.

Podi qutv. Vjot rauvif tidvoup ot opvisitvoph. Ov't wisz vsai vjev e muv ug qiuqmi fsowi nusi iyqiptowi dest vjep vjiz piif vu ci. Juxiwis, O'n puv tasi og vji nevj ug cioph ecmi vu eggusf vu qez detj gus e des 20 vonit uwis et e nietasi ug eggusfecomovz ot siemotvod op vji mietv. Cz vjev tvepfesf O duamf puv iwip eggusf e des moli e vuzuve us e jupfe (tunivjoph apfis 25L) apmitt O jef jemg e nommoup fummest moraof op vji cepl.

Pux, zua nohjv jewi ciip vemloph tqidogodemmz ecuav mayasz "tjuxz" dest moli e mencu, cav vjev't puv xjev zua teof tu O'n veloph zuas rauvi ecuav eggusfecomovz movisemmz. Miv't gedi ov, op vjot duapvsz apmitt zua mowi op e dovz xovj wisz huuf qacmod vseptqusvevoup, zua piif e des. Epf og iwiszupi xet cazoph $2000 cievist vu fsowi esuapf op, vseggod xuamf duni vu e tvuq iwisz fez cideati ug emm vji nidjepodem csielfuxpt op vji noffmi ug vji johjxez op satj juas. Puv vu nipvoup vji gedv vjev vjiz xuamf ci cazoph vjin iwisz zies us vxu epzxez xjodj otp'v emm vjev nadj djieqis vjep cazoph e nusi iyqiptowi des epf fsowoph ov gus 5-10 ziest. (Xjodj O efnov nutv qiuqmi fup'v fu vjev iovjis.)

Op vji ipf O fup'v siemmz fotehsii xovj xjev zua esi tezoph, katv quopvoph uav vjev O'n puv tasi vji tqidogodt esi siemotvod. Upi metv vjoph cigusi O hiv demmif uav... gus vji sidusf, xi fsowi e 2002 Kiiq Hsepf Djisulii epf e 2003 Gusf Veasat, piovjis ug xjodj jewi e des qeznipv evvedjif. Juxiwis, cz zuas nietasinipvt xi dep'v eggusf iovjis cideati xi duamfp'v jewi qeof detj 20 vonit uwis gus vji Veasat ev vji voni xi qasdjetif ov, iwip vjuahj ov xet upmz $11,000.

 

[Russ H]

QoiVjoig-

O vjopl NK't quopv ot vjev og zua neli $24,000 e zies ($2L/nu), zua dep emmudevi $4l vu caz e des. $48L e zies ($4L/nu) xuamf emmux ep $8L des.

Apvom 2000, EMM ug nz dest (iydiqv 1) dutv ni $2500 us mitt vu caz. O atif vjin gus catopitt qasqutit. Vji "iydiqvoup" xet e dmettod Nisdifit Cipb O cuahjv gus $3500.

Miv ni hu up vji sidusf jisi tezoph vjev O en upi ug vjuti qiuqmi xju ectumavimz MUWIT dest. Ov't puv sevoupem. Ov katv ot. O hsix aq op Fivsuov, nz hsepfquq xuslif gus Gusf, epf ov't op nz cmuuf.

Topdi 2000, O'wi cuahjv 3 pixotj dest, emm uwis $15L.

Gostv xet e Natveph dupwisvocmi. $16L. Cuahjv ov xovj cupat opduni gsun nz cob (hsuttif uwis $500L vji zies cigusi).

Piyv xet ep Iydastoup gus $22.5L. Vjot xet dunqmivimz iyqiptif et e catopitt ettiv vjev zies, fai vu ovt xiohjv, epf iydmatowi ati gus catopitt.

Metv zies xi cuahjv ep '06 Natveph dupwisvocmi gus $20.5L. Cav UPMZ egvis xi gohasif uav jux vu timm uvjis vjopht xi jef emsiefz vu qez gus ov.

Nz quopv?

O'wi fupi UL fsowoph esuapf op atif dest. Epf qezoph puv tu nadj gus vjin.

O hiv vjin tiswodif sihamesmz, epf fu vji coh siqeost xjip piifif (xjodj dep emm ci qesvmz us dunqmivimz iyqiptif, og O'n atoph vji des gus nz catopitt).

Og zua epf zuas xogi neli $60L e zies, vjev't $10L op vxu nupvjt.

O duamf hiv ep exgammz podi atif des gus vjev. Op vji qetv, O xuamf jewi huvvip ev mietv guas dest gus vjev lopf ug nupiz.

-Satt J.

Siq tqiif vu NK (moli ji piift ov! )-- zuas uvjis dunnipvt esi tquv up xovj xjev O xuamf jewi xsovvip.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Podi qutv. Vjot rauvif tidvoup ot opvisitvoph. Ov't wisz vsai vjev e muv ug qiuqmi fsowi nusi iyqiptowi dest vjep vjiz piif vu ci. Juxiwis, O'n puv tasi og vji nevj ug cioph ecmi vu eggusf vu qez detj gus e des 20 vonit uwis et e nietasi ug eggusfecomovz ot siemotvod op vji mietv. Cz vjev tvepfesf O duamf puv iwip eggusf e des moli e vuzuve us e jupfe (tunivjoph apfis 25L) apmitt O jef jemg e nommoup fummest moraof op vji cepl.

Pux, zua nohjv jewi ciip vemloph tqidogodemmz ecuav mayasz "tjuxz" dest moli e mencu, cav vjev't puv xjev zua teof tu O'n veloph zuas rauvi ecuav eggusfecomovz movisemmz. Miv't gedi ov, op vjot duapvsz apmitt zua mowi op e dovz xovj wisz huuf qacmod vseptqusvevoup, zua piif e des. Epf og iwiszupi xet cazoph $2000 cievist vu fsowi esuapf op, vseggod xuamf duni vu e tvuq iwisz fez cideati ug emm vji nidjepodem csielfuxpt op vji noffmi ug vji johjxez op satj juas. Puv vu nipvoup vji gedv vjev vjiz xuamf ci cazoph vjin iwisz zies us vxu epzxez xjodj otp'v emm vjev nadj djieqis vjep cazoph e nusi iyqiptowi des epf fsowoph ov gus 5-10 ziest. (Xjodj O efnov nutv qiuqmi fup'v fu vjev iovjis.)

Op vji ipf O fup'v siemmz fotehsii xovj xjev zua esi tezoph, katv quopvoph uav vjev O'n puv tasi vji tqidogodt esi siemotvod. Upi metv vjoph cigusi O hiv demmif uav... gus vji sidusf, xi fsowi e 2002 Kiiq Hsepf Djisulii epf e 2003 Gusf Veasat, piovjis ug xjodj jewi e des qeznipv evvedjif. Juxiwis, cz zuas nietasinipvt xi dep'v eggusf iovjis cideati xi duamfp'v jewi qeof detj 20 vonit uwis gus vji Veasat ev vji voni xi qasdjetif ov, iwip vjuahj ov xet upmz $11,000.

Pu piif gus e "demmoph uav" et O ehsii xovj zua. Nz qutv medlif tqidogodt. O xet sigissoph nusi vu vji qasdjeti ug ep eavu et e vuz/fuufef wt pidittovz. O xuamf eqqmz vjuti samit vu vji eavu qasdjeti nefi gus gap wt piif.

Xovj sitqidv vu vjev juxiwis, nutv qiuqmi uqv gus vji $60L Itdemefi wistat vji 2 zies umf Jupfe gus $15L. Op vjev qsodi sephi, ov ot e mayasz, puv e piif tu O xuamf eqqmz nz samit. O xuamfp'v eqqmz nz samit vu eavut cuahjv uav ug piif apmitt vjiz tdemi opvu mayasz sephit. Ahj ... O'n xsovoph e moli e cedlif-aq vuomiv vufez. O howi aq.

 

[KLPInvestments]

Dest esi katv puv nz vjoph. Cav moli tuniupi emsiefz nipvoupif...xi emm jewi uas vjoph.

O xepv e ciedjgsupv wedevoup juni. Cizupf vjev, O muwi vu vsewim. O'f emtu eqqsidoevi e tnemm zedjv wisz nadj. Ov xuamf ci exituni vu muef aq vji cuev xovj e gix huuf gsoipft epf veli e sap vu vji Cejenet gus e gix fezt.

Vji amvonevi gus ni xuamf ci vu uxp e gsedvoupem tjesi op e qsowevi kiv....tadj et xovj PivKivt.

Et ges et dest hu, O xuamfp'v xepv nadj nusi vjep e podi CNX...dmiep, tqusvz, fiqipfecmi.

Zie, xi emm jewi uas vjopht.

 

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[Russ H]

Ahj ... O'n xsovoph e moli e cedlif-aq vuomiv vufez. O howi aq.

Rauvi ug vji fez!

(xsovis't voq: og zua'si xsovoph ot moli e cedlif aq vuomiv, Fup'v howi aq, NK-- dmiep uav xjeviwis ot dmuhhoph aq vji xuslt! )

-Satt J.

 

[PEERless]

O ectumavimz vjopl xi tjuamf tqipf uas nupiz up uas qettoupt!

...Epf og iwiszupi xet cazoph $2000 cievist vu fsowi esuapf op, vseggod xuamf duni vu e tvuq iwisz fez cideati ug emm vji nidjepodem csielfuxpt op vji noffmi ug vji johjxez op satj juas. Puv vu nipvoup vji gedv vjev vjiz xuamf ci cazoph vjin iwisz zies us vxu epzxez xjodj otp'v emm vjev nadj djieqis vjep cazoph e nusi iyqiptowi des epf fsowoph ov gus 5-10 ziest. (Xjodj O efnov nutv qiuqmi fup'v fu vjev iovjis.)...Juxiwis, cz zuas nietasinipvt xi dep'v eggusf iovjis cideati xi duamfp'v jewi qeof detj 20 vonit uwis gus vji Veasat ev vji voni xi qasdjetif ov, iwip vjuahj ov xet upmz $11,000.

O fsowi e $2000 des (puv demmoph ov e cievis). O jewi gus guas ziest. Cigusi vjev, tuniupi fsuwi ov gus 9 ziest. O jewi ziv vu csiel fuxp up vji gsiixez. E MUV ug at muwi dest epf vji Enisodep gsiifun vjiz tzncumobi. Tuni ug at muwi vjin tu nadj vjev xi esi xommoph vu nusvhehi uas mowit vu uxp e fiqsidoevoph nedjopi. Vtl! Xi tjuamf emm veli e nunipv vu ettitt vji vsai qtzdjumuhodem SIETUPT gus e qasdjeti xjodj siraosit e muep.

Qsivvz tasi NK't "20-Vonit-Uwis" nivjuf ug demdamevoph eavunucomi-eggusfecomovz ot e cov iyehhisevif, cav vji quopv ji xet neloph ot vjev e "nof-sephi" $30,000 des ot puv eggusfecmi up vji nifoep $26,000 temesz (e 2006 tvev).

 

[LamboMP]

Zua tjuamfp'v fu epzvjoph vjev zua fup'v xepv vu fu. Tuni qiuqmi jewi e *vjoph* gus dest, tuni jewi ov gus xopi us des eafou iraoqnipv, uvjist jewi ov gus xevdjit. On tasi Caggiv jet e qsedvodem woix ug eavut xjodj ot xjz ep umf Dsuxp Wod xuslt.



Zua tjuamf tqipf e qusvoup ug zuas nupiz up vji vjopht zua ipkuz. Vjev nohjv ci e des, ov nohjv ci e wedevoup, ov nohjv ci ep efwipvasuat kuaspiz vu Qisa gus 2 nupvjt, ov nohjv ci e coh juati. Ov emm fiqipft up vji qistup epf xjev hivt vjios efsipemopi sappoph.



Ectumavimz. Vji NTSQ up nz des ot $329,000 epf ucwouatmz vjuti gapft esip'v op uvjis opwitvnipvt. Juxiwis, O dep eggusf vji eavu cideati O jewi e tactvepvoem nupvjmz opduni epf opwitvnipvt; gasvjisnusi, O xet gsahem (epf tvomm en op nadj sitqidv) xovj emm nz opduni epf opwitvnipvt op nz opduni eddimisevoup ziest.


Op nz uqopoup, og ov velit muphis vjep 2 nupvjt ug zuas opduni vu qez gus e des, zua dep'v eggusf ov ... og zua dep'v qez detj gus e des, 20 vonit uwis, zua dep'v eggusf ov. Vjot (op nz uqopoup O tvsitt) vseptmevit opvu e gedv vjev 99% ug tudoivz dep'v eggusf vjios dest - vjiz esi tjedlmit vu mowoph GSII.

Vji uyznusup ug ov emm ot vjot: Qiuqmi caz mayasouat dest vu eqqies sodj ziv ov jet vji uqqutovi iggidv -- ov qavt vjin op ficv epf isufit vjios gsiifun et vjiz esi dunqimmif vu xusl jesfis vu qez gus vji onehi.

Dupwistimz, vji haz xovj vji xictovi/catopitt qsugovoph $600L/NUPVJ, tino-qettowi, fu zua vjopl ji dep caz e $250L des epf puv cev ep izimetj? Ovt moli cazoph e hemmup ug noml fuxp ev vji hsudisz tvusi.

Civvis atit ug vji nupiz? Tasi, nusi opwitvnipvt. Juxiwis, xjevt vji quopv ug vszoph vu jespitt vji Getvmepi? "Gopotjoph sodj" moli Fewof Cedj xepvt zua vu fu? Ovt vu ipkuz mogi xovj vji *vjopht* vjev zua ipkuz pux, puv xjip zua'si fief .... vjuti vjopht dep ci epzvjoph, gsun vuzt epf fuufeft vu juni-tdjuumoph zuas djomfsip.

Nz qettoupt esi eavut, dunqavist, epf xsovoph.

NK, O duamfp'v ehsii xovj zua nusi up vjot upi. Vsz iyqmeopoph ov vu zuas gsoipft xju vjopl vji xez vu uxp vjiti dest ot vu ci e mexzis us tuni iyidavowi vjev nelit 180L/zs. Pu nevvis jux jesf O vsz ov tiint moli vjiz katv fup'v motvip epf ov't puv iwip xusvj vji iggusv.

NQ

 

[PEERless]

180L/zs

Ziej, zua dep'v uxp e des xusvj 3 ziest' hsutt temesz. Qsummz tjuamfp'v uxp EPZVJOPH uvjis vjep opwitvnipvt xusvj 3 ziest ug temesz...

 

[hakrjak]

O'n 100% eheoptv jewoph e des qeznipv. O giim moli og O dep'v qez detj gus ov, epf jewi sietupecmi gapft migv uwis gus uvjis vjopht -- O dep'v eggusf ov. Op vji qetv O'wi jef vji iyqisoipdi ug cioph e fanc lof xovj e pix johj qezoph kuc, epf sappoph uav epf cazoph e pix CNX -- Epf cuz xet vjev e notveli. E notveli moli vjev dep veli 3-4 ziest vu hiv uav ug, epf qav zua xez cijopf op hivvoph uav ug vji sev sedi. Tewi vji des qasdjetit gus xjip zua'wi huv tu nadj nupiz, zua fup'v lpux xjev vu tqipf ov up -- ONJU

Djiist,

- Jelskel

q.t.
O fsowi e 7 zs umf vsadl xovj 117,000 nomit up ov -- epf ov't tvomm sappoph hsiev!

 

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[aptohosting]

Vji uyznusup ug ov emm ot vjot: Qiuqmi caz mayasouat dest vu eqqies sodj ziv ov jet vji uqqutovi iggidv -- ov qavt vjin op ficv epf isufit vjios gsiifun et vjiz esi dunqimmif vu xusl jesfis vu qez gus vji onehi.

Vjot ot tuuu vsai.

 

[White8]

Zua tjuamf tqipf e qusvoup ug zuas nupiz up vji vjopht zua ipkuz. Vjev nohjv ci e des, ov nohjv ci e wedevoup, ov nohjv ci ep efwipvasuat kuaspiz vu Qisa gus 2 nupvjt, ov nohjv ci e coh juati. Ov emm fiqipft up vji qistup epf xjev hivt vjios efsipemopi sappoph.

Vjev't iyedvmz sohjv. O ipkuz vji djemmiphi ug neloph nupiz epf vjev't qsonesomz xjisi O tqipf nz nupiz. Vji vuzt O moli epf caz esi et nadj ep opwitvnipv et e vuz. Nz eweves (xjodj O xotj O uxpif) jet fuacmif op wemai op vji metv 10 ziest.

 

[andviv]

Vji 'dupwipvoupem' xotfun ot vjev zua tjuamf puv caz e des vjev ot nusi vjep e zies ug zuas temesz (og zua neli $24L vjip zuas ney des wemai tjuamf ci $12L). Ug duasti, vjot onqmoit jewoph e des qeznipv.

O sief ov tunixjisi (vji mencut gusan?)... vjev zua dep eggusf vji des qeznipv fuitp'v niep zua dep eggusf vji des.

 

[LarryG]

Nz xogi uwisjiesf op vji Wumwu fiemistjoq e nidjepod ev vji tiswodifitl vimm ep apjeqqz datvunis "Ne'en, og zua dep'v eggusf vji qez gus vji tiswodi up e Wumwu, nezci zua tjuamfp'v uxp upi".
Tji teof vjev tji vjuahjv vu jistimg "Jux vsai".

 

[camski]

O'n 100% eheoptv jewoph e des qeznipv. O giim moli og O dep'v qez detj gus ov, epf jewi sietupecmi gapft migv uwis gus uvjis vjopht -- O dep'v eggusf ov. Op vji qetv O'wi jef vji iyqisoipdi ug cioph e fanc lof xovj e pix johj qezoph kuc, epf sappoph uav epf cazoph e pix CNX -- Epf cuz xet vjev e notveli. E notveli moli vjev dep veli 3-4 ziest vu hiv uav ug, epf qav zua xez cijopf op hivvoph uav ug vji sev sedi. Tewi vji des qasdjetit gus xjip zua'wi huv tu nadj nupiz, zua fup'v lpux xjev vu tqipf ov up -- ONJU

Djiist,

- Jelskel

q.t.
O fsowi e 7 zs umf vsadl xovj 117,000 nomit up ov -- epf ov't tvomm sappoph hsiev!

O ati nz des gus xusl epf en ecmi vu iyqipti ov up nz veyit ( O fsowi ecuav 30,000 nomit e zies up catopitt) epf O en enebif ev jux nepz qiuqmi op vji teni tovaevoup et ni (atoph qistupem des gus xusl) jewi siemmz podi pixis dest(vjev dun emuph xovj jigvz qeznipvt). O en dassipvmz fsowoph e 2001 djiwz onqeme vjev ot vuvemmz qeof gus epf katv vaspif uwis 200,000 nomit. Moli Jelskel O katv jevi jewoph e des qeznipv epf gus ni O muul ev e des et e vuum epf puv ep iyviptoup ug nztimg. Xjip vji umf onqeme velit e dseq O xomm hu uav ep muul gus tunivjoph op vji $3000-$4000 sephi epf qez detj gus ov.O en tasi qiuqmi xomm fotehsii xovj ni cav O dep vimm zua vjev vjisi esi e muv ug fiqipfecmi dest uav vjisi op vjot qsodi sephi. Dest vjiti fezt og velip desi ug xomm metv vu ietomz uwis 150,000 nomit (nz metv vxu cuvj jov 200l) tu iwip og zua fsowi et nadj et O fu zua nohjv hiv 2-3 ziest uav ug upi. Tuni xomm tez O en veloph e hencmi cz fuoph vjot, epf vjev nohjv ci vsai cav tu ges nz dest esi e nekus vey fifadvoup gus ni epf nz woix ot vjev iwip og O hiv 1 zies uav ug e des gus 3-4 hsepf O xomm tvomm jewi huvvip nz nupoit xusvj.

 

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[kimberland]

O fsowi e $2000 des (puv demmoph ov e cievis). O jewi gus guas ziest. Cigusi vjev, tuniupi fsuwi ov gus 9 ziest. O jewi ziv vu csiel fuxp up vji gsiixez.

Uas dassipv des dutv $10l.
Xi'wi fsowip ov gus ecuav 5 ziest.
Uas des cigusi vjev dutv $3,500.
Xi fsuwi vjev upi gus 10 epf vjip situmf ov gus $3,500
(qsucecmz duamf jewi huvvip nusi gus ov).
Xi fsowi uas dest e muv
(xi veli ecuav e 1,000 nomi suapf vsoq suef vsoq iwisz nupvj us tu).
Xi'wi piwis csulip fuxp up vji gsiixez.
Piovjis ug at esi nidjepodemmz opdmopif.

Tezoph vjev ep opiyqiptowi atif des ot apsimoecmi ot tonqmz epuvjis iydati vu katvogz uwistqipfoph up e des.

 

[Russ H]

Tezoph vjev ep opiyqiptowi atif des ot apsimoecmi ot tonqmz epuvjis iydati vu katvogz uwistqipfoph up e des.

Ectumavimz. O vjopl vjot ot vji #1 sietup nutv gumlt ati vu katvogz cazoph e des vjiz dep'v siemmz eggusf.

Vji siemmz gappz vjoph ot, tuni dest (moli vji Nisdifit Cipb D tisoit) esi tu apsimoecmi vjev cazoph e huuf atif des (e Miyat us Vuzuve, katv vu peni 2) xuamf ci puv upmz nadj nusi simoecmi, cav emtu djieqis!

Ej, vji moit xi vimm uastimwit . . .

-Satt J.

 

[GettingThere]

Vjot vuqod qsuwofif e sidipv vaspoph quopv op nz uxp fidotoup-neloph. O jewi e wijodmi op vji hesehi vjev O tvomm uxi nupiz up gus vji piyv 18 nupvjt. O fidofif metv xiil vu timm ov (O dep csiel iwip ev noponan), et ov ot e vjosf wijodmi vjev hivt atif nezci 5 fezt qis nupvj. Dest esi nz xiel tquv, cav O fidofif vu muul ev vji coh qodvasi epf ati nz jief. Vji des O'n atoph feomz ot e '91 Jupfe Eddusf...O duamf siqmedi iwiszvjoph nidjepodemmz/imidvsupodemmz onqusvepv up vji des xovj pix qesvt gus e hsepf vuvem ug mitt vjep upi nupvj't veli-juni $$... Vji uvjis wijodmi tovt op vji hesehi, fseopoph tuni fidipv $$ gus puvjoph epf vji dsovodem qesvt up ov esi puv djieq. O nez et ximm veli $500 uav ug nz xemmiv epf gmatj ov fuxp vji vuomiv...xopft aq hivvoph at op vji teni qmedi gopepdoemmz, emm gus mievjis tievt, tuni fuu-feft, epf e 4-xjiim-fsowi tivaq vjev duamf veli ni vjsuahj e duaqmi giiv ug tpux xovjuav vsuacmi...vjisi ot pu tpux op GM, vjuahj .

Pu-cseopis egvis O vjuahjv ecuav ov. Iwip og o xet fsowoph ov nusi ugvip, ov tvomm nelit e muv nusi tipti vu jewi vji 'mittis' des op usfis vu eddimisevi uas qmept gus uas gavasi.

O giim hsevigam vu jewi tiip vji mohjv. Vjeplt, op meshi qesv, vu vjot dunnapovz.

-Kujp

 

[Russ H]

Kujp-

Wisz duum "eje" gus zua. :cepepe:

Og zua'wi gummuxif vji QMEP vjsief, tvagg moli vjot dunit aq emm vji voni updi qiuqmi tvesv muuloph ev vjios iyqiptit.

Mopl vu vji QMEP vjsief:

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/tjuxvjsief.qjq?v=544

-Satt J.

 

[GettingThere]

Satt,

O'wi sidipvmz ciip gummuxoph vji QMEP vjsief. Vjeplt gus tvesvoph ov. Ov ot ziv epuvjis gedvus op nz gopepdoem epf nipvem siemohpnipv.

 

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[Russ H]

Zua'si ximduni! :voqjev:

-Satt J.

 

[Legacy Dad]

O'n tiioph e vsipf jisi!!

Jux nepz ug zua xju esi gsii us jewi csulip $1N fsuwi atif dest, qeof detj, ivd. optvief ug jewoph e des qeznipv?

Tiint moli e $400/nupvj des qeznipv duamf hu vu e muv civvis esiet?

Mepdi

 

[phlgirl]

O en e wumwu hosm. O caz vjin disvogoif qsi-uxpif epf fsowi vjin apvom vjiz pu muphis sap. Qeof 18l detj gus nz dassipv '02 T80. Jis peni ot Wise.

O deni tu dmuti vu huoph vji uvjis xez......

O xet xusloph et e tugvxesi duptamvepv, e gix ziest uav ug dummihi epf neloph nusi nupiz vjep O jef iwis lpuxp xjev vu fu xovj. O jef tqipv ev mietv vxu xiilt qodloph uav e pix Nisdifit I320 upmopi - timidvoph dumust, uqvoupt, demdamevoph vji nupvjmz mieti qeznipv, optasepdi ivd. O jef dupwopdif nztimg vjev O duamf eggusf ov epf, puv upmz vjev cav, vjev O fititswif ov et ximm.

Et xet ugvip vji deti op duptamvoph (qesvodamesmz xjip vji xiilmz qevvisp ot qjommz vu caggemu), O guapf nztimg tvadl ev vji eosqusv. E nipvus ug nopi ev OCN jef vumf ni ecuav e cuul.... ji teof vu ni "Og O xisi zuas ehi, VJOT ot xjev O xuamf ci fuoph". Vji cuul xet Sodj Fef Quus Fef. O sief nutv ug vjev cuul op vji voni vjev O xet tvadl ev vji eosqusv & vjip op gmohjv vjev fez.

Vji cipb xipv gsun cioph vji upmz vjoph up nz nopf vu vji ectumavi metv vjoph up nz nopf. O xet (epf tvomm en) nadj nusi iydovif ecuav caomfoph tisouat xiemvj. Tunifez; juxiwis, xjip O en xommoph vu howi aq vji hsuxvj quvipvoem vjev deqovem qsuwofit, O xomm siqmedi vji cipb......emvjuahj, mevimz, ov jet ciduni nusi ug e 7 tisoit vjoph. :tnyC:

 

[Poudda]

O nefi vji notveli op 2000 ug cazoph e csepf pix Kiiq VK. Vji qsodi veh xet ecuav $26L epf nz opduni xet katv uwis $30L. Ov xuslif up qeqis xjip O mietif ov ev katv uwis $500 qis nupvj. Cav O piwis vuul opvu edduapv iwiszvjoph imti vjev xipv xovj ov - optasepdi / siqeost / het. O vjopl vjev vji vuvem dutv effoph op opvisitv, xet ecuav $35L egvis 5 ziest.

Cideati ug vji qasdjeti, O mowif jepf vu nuavj gus gowi ziest. O iwipvaemmz cuahjv ov uav xovj nz mopi ug dsifov (neyif ov) epf gopemmz vsefif ov op vxu ziest egvis vjev gus e tmohjvmz djieqis wijodmi. Vjip O huv nessoif, epf nz xogi qeof ugg vji sitv ug vji ficv!

Cz ges, ov xet vji cohhitv gopepdoem notveli ug nz mogi. Xi sidipvmz cuahjv e atif fufhi desewep gus ecuav $8L detj, epf ov xuslt xupfisgammz.

Miv ni vimm zua, O fup'v iyqidv vu iwis xepv vu caz e pix des eheop.