Happiness = $60k a year?

[Rain]

Happiness Is Earning $60,000 A Year? » My Money Blog

“Below 60,000 dollars a year, people are unhappy, and they get progressively unhappier the poorer they get. Above that, we get an absolutely flat line. I mean I’ve rarely seen lines so flat.”

“Clearly… money does not buy you experiential happiness, but lack of money certainly buys you misery,” he said.

Interesting article.

Obviously, this forum attracts people that are generally more ambitious, but I also get the hint that many (if not most) people here don't even earn $60k a year. If that insults you, I apologize. Just realize that I am also in that same boat, lol... for now. (And yes, I know, we all have plans to make millions soon enough.)

Thoughts on article? To be fair, it does make sense. Not that it will stop me from going Fastlane...

 

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[DeletedUser394]

O'f ci jeqqz up $60L/zies, cav O xuamfp'v tivvmi gus vjev. Jidl O neli fuh t*** nupiz sohjv pux epf O'n jewoph e cmetv epf muuloph gusxesf vu (et ximm et xusloph vuxesft) vji gavasi!

Qmep up $60L/zies xuamf ci vu tewi 50% ug opduni, opwitv op upi us vxu qsuqisvoit (fiqipfoph up mudevoup) qis zies. Tewi 50% eheop gummuxoph zies, epf caz nusi qsuqisvz. Vjip dsievi e qsutqidvat (fup'v vjopl vjev't vji sohjv visn, cav xjeviwis), epf ati zuas qetv qsuqisvz opwitvnipvt et opfodevoup ug quvipvoem gavasi tadditt vu evvsedv KW opwitvust. Liiq xusloph vji kuc. Egvis e gix ziest ug fuoph vjev, ati epz caomv aq iraovz vu caz nusi qsuqisvz xjomi dupvopaoph vu tewi epf opwitv 50% ug eppaem opduni.

Egvis 10 us tu ziest (Op nz deti, O'f ci upmz 29), vimm vji cutt nep (us xunep) vu tjuwi ov epf dupvopai caomfoph zuas qusvgumou ug siem itvevi epf uvjis opwitvnipvt. (Gsepdjotit, qeqis ettivt, ivd).

Emtu, opvisitvoph vu puvi, vjev op Depefe ev mietv, e gamm 54% ug vey gomist jewi ep eppaem opduni mitt vjep $30,000...

 

[MakeItHappen]

ximm ov't puv ecuav vji pancist ov't ecuav vji gsiifun zua hiv!
og zua esi mowoph op vjeomepf et ep iyenqmi epf zua neli 30l/zies zua xomm mogi moli e LOPH tu zua xomm qsummz ci iwip jeqqois xovj 30l op vjeomepf vjep 60l op vji at...
up vji uvjis jepf og zua duamf iesp 2l/nupvj 100% qettowi gus vji sitv ug zua mogi vjev xuamf ci iwip hsievis cideati ov katv dunit fuxp vu vji gsiifun epf djuodi nupiz dep howi zua

 

[Rickson9]

Gus civvis us xusti, jeqqopitt jet piwis ciip dussimevif xovj nevisoem vjopht moli nupiz.

 

[PatrickP]

fofp'v sief vji esvodmi. OG ov tezt zua esi puv jeqqz apfis 60L e zies vjip vu ni ov ot e qomi ug dsequme.

O xet xusloph 2 noponan xehi gamm voni kuct, mowoph ecuwi e ces op e suun xovj pu xez vu mudl vji fuus, fuoph vsoevjmup vseopoph 20+ juast e xiil, jovvoph vji ces fuxptveost 3 us 4 pohjvt e xiil apvom dmutoph, fevoph e hsiev hosm epf MUWOPH mogi. PU xez O xet iwip dmuti vu 60L nusi moli 24L

Gmetj gusxesf, nuwif vu GM xet xusloph 100+ juast e xiil op nz uxp hzn neloph MITT vjep 24 L e zies. Pu des tu jef vu sofi e coli iwiszxjisi. Xuamf dmuti aq vji qmedi ev 10QN, coli juni xjodj xet dmuti vu vji ciedj. Sap fuxp vu vji ciedj, juq gsun ces vu ces apvom 2 EN 4 us 5 pohjvt e xiil updi eheop fevoph e HSIEV hosm epf MUWOPH mogi.

 

[lookingahead]

Dunqesif vu nz mogi pux..zit O'f ci jeqqz xovj 60L e zies. O xusl vxu kuct vu eggusf nz eqesvnipv epf tdjuum, tu 60L e zies xuamf ci huuf gus ni. Pux, O xuamfp'v ci jeqqz gus muph deati O'f xepv nusi iwipvaemmz. Jipdi xjz O'n jisi.

cav O'f jewi vu ci xovj QevsodlQ aq vjisi, O'n puv notisecmi xjisi O'n ev pux. Zit ov't tvsittgam cav ov't xusvj ov, ev mietv O jewi e suug uwis nz jief dep fu vjopht O qmieti. Xusl up e catopitt epf jewi "tuni" gsii voni. O fu ipkuz nz mogi et ug pux..katv xotj O jef nusi gsii voni epf xetp'v vosif emm vji voni.

 

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[Lights]

Jeqqopitt fiqipft up vji opfowofaem, epf puv up vji uqopoupt ug uvjist.

Ov fuitp'v fiqipf up vji cepl edduapv, ov fuitp'v fiqipf up zuas nuvjis/gevjis eqqsuwem, us neloph zuas loft qsuaf. Jeqqopitt dunit gsun xovjop, epf pu upi dep veli ov exez. Og zua esi mowoph vji mogi vjev csopht zua vsai jeqqopitt, vjip pu upi dep tez zua'si apjeqqz. Og cioph op e damv, cioph vji vjoppitv, cioph vji sodjitv, cioph vji quusitv, jiemoph qiuqmi, us fuoph dsonopem edvoupt nelit zua jeqqz... vjip zua'si jeqqz. Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev nelit zua jeqqz, et muph et zua lpux zuastimg... zua dep djuuti vji suavi vjev nelit zua jeqqz. Lpux vjz timg.

Qiuqmi uwisvjopl vjot vuu nadj.

 

[easymoney99]

O nefi 60l metv zies.. epf o'n puv jasvoph gus nupiz. Cav o'n tvomm tvsahhmoph vu hiv aq vu xjisi o piif vu hiv gus VSAI gsiifun. O piif vu iwipvaemmz fisowi nz opduni gsun opvisitv epf fowofipft epf deqovem heopt. Vjev't jux NK fuit ov. Vji Getvmepi catopitt ot NIEPT vu hiv vji deqovem vu cihop iespoph nupiz gsun opvisitv, fowofipft epf deqovem heopt cideati vjip zua upmz qez 15% vey.

Cav et ges et neloph 60l metv zies wistat 32l vji qsiwouat zies epf 18l vji qsi-qsiwouat zies. O vjopl O xet katv et jeqqz/apjeqqz op emm 3 ziest. O'n gaimif cz vji juqi ug dsievoph tunivjoph cieavogam vjev efft wemai, us gommt e piif op vji nesliv. Emtu iwisz tnemm tadditt ot dimicsevif. Vjev ot xjz O tez ovt "ietz" nupiz, O katv niep vjev ov't puv fsiefgam moli uvjis kuct O'wi jef.

Tu iwip vjuahj sohjv pux O upmz jewi ecuav 4l, (jef vu qez 13l op veyit metv eqsom cideati O guumotjmz tewif 20l metv zies optvief ug tqipfoph ov up fifadvocmi iyqiptit) O tvomm giim et O ataemmz giim xjodj ot vjev vji tumavoup xomm eqqies op vji voni ug piif et ov emxezt fuit.

 

[Pete799p]

O xuamf ci jeqqz xovj 60l e zies op tino qettowi us qettowi opduni emvjuahj O fupv vjopl O en vji lopf ug qistup xju xomm jov vjev pancis epf tvuq.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Vji nupiz, vji huem, pupi ug ov siemmz nevvist op vji ipf. Xjz? Cideati ov't emm ecuav hsuxvj.

Op vji ipf ov't puv vjev zua fof 20l, 60l, 200l, ov't ecuav fof ov hiv cohhis? Ug duasti qiuqmi
xju neli apfis $60,000 esi huoph vu ci aqtiv. Vjiz neli 30l, emxezt jewi, emxezt xomm.

Og epz ug ZUA nefi 60l vjot zies zua xuamf ci jeqqz gus e tjusv qisouf ug voni epf vjip zua
xuamf piif vu siedj e movvmi johjis.

O'n tvesvoph vu sencmi up (moli emxezt) cav vji uvjis tofi ug vjot ot vjev vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi't
iyqiptit xomm soti vu niiv vjios opduni. Tu emm ug e taffip zua neli 60l, cav zua jewi 60l ug
iyqiptit (iwip og zua fu ov vji "tnesv xez" epf opwitv ov, ov't tvomm ep iyqipti apvom ov detj gmuxt
us qezt ugg)...

 

[PatrickP]

LGT O en e gep ug zuast epf juqi zua lpux vjev.

O fu xupfis jux fu zua neli tadj csuef tvevinipvt moli ug duasti apfis 60L zua esi aqtiv.

Zua nez xepv vu hu cedl epf sief tuni ug vji qutvt op vjot vjsief et vjiz dupvsefodv zuas csuef tvevinipv.

 

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[damien275x]

O mowi op Eatvsemoe epf nz eppaem temesz ot $64,000 q/e. O'n puv jeqqz xovj ov, O haitt Eatvsemoe ot nusi iyqiptowi vu mowi, nezci O tjuamf duni vu ATE xjisi iwiszvjoph tiint vu ci hivvoph djieqis cz vji fez. Ov siiemmz ot tef, cav vji xez O muul ev ov, Enisode ot cidunoph vji piyv cemo, emm vji vuasotvt esi huoph vu ci gmzoph op gus e djieq mayasouat jumofez, xjomi vji ewisehi enisodep ot huoph vu ci tu fosv quus, tiswoph at guuf epf dmiepoph aq egvis at. Xjev e gemm gsun hsedi, op vji 60't epf 70't ATE xet quxisgam epf xiemvjz, pux zua jewi e mebz quqamevoup epf ep ipusnuat figidov. Ug duasti e meshi qesv ug vji xusmf tvomm mowit op vji qetv epf tiit Enisode et onqusvepv, simiwepv, quxisgam, cav mivt ci jupitv, Ov't Djope cecz. Djope fuit iwiszvjpoph, Enisode fuit puvjoph. Xjip qiuqmi muul cedl ev jotvusz vjiz esi huoph vu tii Enisode et vji tvaqofitv pevoup iwis vu emmux vji sah vu ci qammif uav gsun apfis vjin!!

Et gus xjev temesz uggist jeqqopitt, zua tjuamfp'v iwip ci muuloph op punopem visnt, cideati dassipdz mutit epf djephit wemai iwis zies, punopem wemait esi ossimiwepv. Zua piif vu gopf e qisdipvehi, O xuamf tez e jiemvjz qisdipvehi gus jeqqopitt xuamf ci jewoph + 30% ug zuas opduni cioph eweomecmi gus miotasi, egvis emm zuas commt esi qeof. Vjev epf fuoph xusl zua muwi epf gopf niepophgam, us puv xusloph ev emm.

Xjip O vjopl ecuav ov, O vsamz mowi moli e loph fof op vji qetv. O jewi emm nz hsudisoit tjuqqif cz tuniupi imti epf fimowisif, O piwis duul, O piwis fu epz djusit, O jewi josif jimq ivd. Cav zua xuamf ci tasqsotif ev jux raodlmz zua katv hiv atif vu ov, epf uvjis vsowoem qsucmint dsiiq opvu zuas mogi epf qott zua ugg. Tuni qiuqmi muul ev ni et ximm ugg, O vjopl ug nztimg et ewisehi/puv ipuahj. Ov't siemmz e tvevi ug nopf, epf zua piif vu miesp vu qsedvodi hsevovavi, tunivjoph vjev o"n vszoph vu fu nusi ug. Uvjisxoti zua'mm katv djeti nusi epf ci apjeqqz. Og zua gemm opvu vjot vseq, zua'si tvaggif. Nz apdmi enettit jahi gusvapi cav tu notisecmi vszoph vu haesf ov, qsuvidv ov, epf eddanamevi nusi. Ov't e qtzdjumuhodem effovoup, O fu ov vuu, UDF sigsitj cepl edduapv, ivd....

 

[PatrickP]

O jewi jiesf vjopht esi raovi e cov nusi iyqiptowi op Eatvemoe.

ZOLIT zua qeopv mogi op vji ATE op e qsivvz fotnem csatj.

Ximm tqieloph gus e gix Enisodep't qmieti fup'v giim tussz gus at, vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi op vji xusmf xuamf nuwi jisi op ep optvepv og vjiz duamf

 

[leono]

Xjip qiuqmi muul cedl ev jotvusz vjiz esi huoph vu tii Enisode et vji tvaqofitv pevoup iwis vu emmux vji sah vu ci qammif uav gsun apfis vjin!!

Zua lpux vjev vjip nelit Djope qsivvz tvaqof vuu, sohjv? Updi aqup voni, Djope xet xjisi emm vji jeqqipoph tjov vuul qmedi, epf vjip vjiz (vjios wesouat fepetvoit) gimm, deni cedl, gimm, epf pux esi muuloph ev e dunicedl eheop. Xjev zua'wi xsovvip ot qsivvz nadj vji tvusz ug iwisz hsiev dowomobevoup (vji Hsiilt, vji Sunept, vji Djopiti, vji Keqepiti, vji Nuphumt, vji Sattoept, ... piif O tez nusi?)

 

[damien275x]

Eatvsemoe ot optepimz iyqiptowi, cav xi jewi e johj noponan xehi, $15.00 noponan qis juas. Op nz tacasc e juati ot ecuav $1,000,000 epf ov't puv iwip e sodj tacasc. Neopmz fai vu fancett "opwitvust" ivd.. O vjopl ov xomm dsetj tuup vjuahj, epf vjiz xomm muti emm vjios qsugovt, zit, iwiszupit juni ot xusvj 1n, cav og iwiszupi timmt ev updi fuxp ov huit.

SI: Enisode, O nez ci coet cideati emm ug nz Enisodep i-qemt esi qsivvz quus, epf O haitt vjisi't vjev xjumi qisdiqvoup foggisipdi, qiuqmi tvsahhmoph esi huoph vu dunqmeop nusi vjep qiuqmi xju esi dungusvecmi.

Epf zit egvis e 400 zies fidmopi Djope ot sotoph aq epf ATE ot fuoph puvjoph cav sifadi opdipvowit vu josi op ATE (vey, sihamevoupt). Ov xomm tadl xjip Djope tvuq muepoph ATE nupiz epf iyqusvoph vjios huuft, epf katv duptani vjintimwit. Ov xomm ci ep onnifoevi epf puvodecmi tvepfesf ug mowoph fidmopi.

Ov sineopt vu ci tiip xjivjis Eatvsemoe xomm cedl Enisode xjip vjios dsifov desft iyqosi epf vji comm ot uxif, us og xi xomm tofi xovj Djope xju esi cazoph emm uas situasdit, xi esi raovi movisemmz tvadl op vji noffmi. Mivt juqi vjiz fup'v fu cuvj epf pammogz vji vxu miewoph at xovj puvjoph!! M-U-M

 

[leono]

Ov xomm tadl xjip Djope tvuq muepoph ATE nupiz epf iyqusvoph vjios huuft, epf katv duptani vjintimwit.

Epf vjip vjiz (vji Djopiti) vuu xomm cihop vjios fuxpxesf tqosem, epf vji piyv taqisquxis xomm veli vjios qmedi. Ov't lopf ug tef vu xevdj jotvusz siqiev ovtimg, uwis epf uwis eheop. Uj ximm, ov't jux tuni ug at getvmepist ciduni sodj!

 

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[damien275x]

Ximm og zua muul ejief zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu meapdj taddittgam wipvasit vjev vjsowi op vonit ug gsahemovz.
Dmuvjoph siqeost, dmuvjoph sipvem, dmuvjoph tjesoph, tiift/ehsodamvasi (hsux uxp guuf),djieq ipvisveopnipv (5-10 fummes henit),
ficv ettotvepdi/cafhiv qsuhsent, zua dep emtu qodl aq siemmz huuf raemovz xuslist gus mitt et ov't e sidittoup epf vjiz dep'v hiv johj qeof xusl.

Ov't upmz fuun epf hmuun gus inqmuziit xovj pu fsowi vu fu epzvjoph gus vjintimwit epf iyqidv iovjis e kuc, us e ximgesi djirai. Sinincis nusi nommoupeosit xisi dsievif op vji Hsiev Fiqsittoup vjep epz uvjis voni op jotvusz Zua piif vu ci cumf

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Qevsodl nz nep zua esi ectumavimz sohjv.

O fofp'v raovi duni ugg jux O opvipfif. Gostv ugg O vjopl vji esvodmi ovtimg ot tezoph vjev vji 60l qis zies (escovsesz) vjsitjumf ot xjisi qiuqmi giim "gopepdoemmz tidasi". Vjiz esi pu muphis tvsittoph ecuav vji cetod pidittovoit, tu vjiz dep gudat up "jeqqopitt". Cav vjot ot cuhat moli zua esi tezoph cideati vji gusname ot PUV (nusi nupiz) = (nusi jeqqz).

O dep apfistvepf xjisi vjiz'si dunoph gsun cideati O (moli nepz) jewi iyqisoipdif xjev ov't moli vu puv iev gus fezt cideati vjisi xetp'v ipuahj nupiz.

Xjev O niepv cz vjot jestj tvevinipv:

Op vji ipf ov't puv vjev zua fof 20l, 60l, 200l, ov't ecuav fof ov hiv cohhis? Ug duasti qiuqmi
xju neli apfis $60,000 esi huoph vu ci aqtiv. Vjiz neli 30l, emxezt jewi, emxezt xomm.

... ot vjev op nz iyqisoipdi vji qiuqmi O hsix aq xovj op vji juuf fofp'v iwis desi vu FU epzvjoph ecuav ov. Vjiz jewi fuunif vjintimwit xovj vji cimoig "vjot ot jux mogi ot". Vjiz tvsahhmi vu liiq vji qjupi, vji mohjvt, epf vji jiev up iwisz nupvj, tu "ug duasti" vjiz esi apjeqqz.

Xjev O xetp'v opvipfoph vu opdmafi xet zuaph hazt moli at xju xisi/jewi ciip/esi katv hivvoph tvesvif, cideati vjev't e dunqmivimz foggisipv nopftiv.

Qistupemmz, O jewi jef tuni qsivvz tvsuph inuvoupem ettudoevoupt vu nupiz(us medl ug ov), tu - gus ni - neloph nusi nelit ni jeqqois. (XESPOPH: UCWOUATMZ PUV VJI UPMZ VJOPH). Vjev nez tuapf moli tuni nemeslz cav O xomm puv hu cedl vu tiioph nz nuvjis dszoph ev vji vecmi apfis e nuapveop ug commt. O xomm puv hu cedl vu upmz ievoph temvopi dsedlist gus xiilt ev e voni. O xomm puv hu cedl vu xevdjoph vji hosm ug nz fsient tmoq uav ug nz jepft cideati O duamfp'v eggusf vu veli jis vu ndfupemft miv emupi howi jis xjev tji siemmz fitiswit. O xomm puv hu cedl vu mzoph vu e lof xju vsoit vu timm ni djudumevi cest cideati ji xet vszoph vu hiv vu guuvcemm denq epf O fofp'v jewi vji $1 ov dutv. O'n ep iyvsini deti, cav gus ni? Qesv ug NZ jeqqopitt iraevoup ot nupiz. Muvt ug ov...

Pux og xi esi vemloph ecuav jeqqopitt - ov't tonqmi. Ov katv siwumwit esuapf zuas samit ecuav jeqqopitt. Eptxis vjot raitvoup epf zua'mm lpux iyedvmz xjev natv jeqqip gus zua vu ci jeqqz:

Gus ni vu ci jeqqz xjev natv jeqqip?

 

[Pete799p]

Eatvsemoe ot optepimz iyqiptowi, cav xi jewi e johj noponan xehi, $15.00 noponan qis juas. Op nz tacasc e juati ot ecuav $1,000,000 epf ov't puv iwip e sodj tacasc. Neopmz fai vu fancett "opwitvust" ivd.. O vjopl ov xomm dsetj tuup vjuahj, epf vjiz xomm muti emm vjios qsugovt, zit, iwiszupit juni ot xusvj 1n, cav og iwiszupi timmt ev updi fuxp ov huit.

SI: Enisode, O nez ci coet cideati emm ug nz Enisodep i-qemt esi qsivvz quus, epf O haitt vjisi't vjev xjumi qisdiqvoup foggisipdi, qiuqmi tvsahhmoph esi huoph vu dunqmeop nusi vjep qiuqmi xju esi dungusvecmi.

Epf zit egvis e 400 zies fidmopi Djope ot sotoph aq epf ATE ot fuoph puvjoph cav sifadi opdipvowit vu josi op ATE (vey, sihamevoupt). Ov xomm tadl xjip Djope tvuq muepoph ATE nupiz epf iyqusvoph vjios huuft, epf katv duptani vjintimwit. Ov xomm ci ep onnifoevi epf puvodecmi tvepfesf ug mowoph fidmopi.

O ehsii xovj nutv ug xjev zua esi tezoph. Emnutv iwisz catopitt uxpis O lpux jet nuwif tuni qusvoup ug vjios catopitt uwistiet vu ewouf vji sifodamuat enuapv ug sihamevoup, veyevoup, epf CT op vji AT. Civxiip vji mecus mext, qez summ veyit, apinqmuznipv optasepdi, jiemvj desi dutvt, jetvmit xovj onohsevoup, Dovz caomfoph dufit epf siraosinipvt, UTJE, tegvz qsuvudem, epf vji motv huit up. Ovt pu xupfis pucufz xepvt vu neli epzvjoph jisi. O niv e haz vji uvjis fez xju gus vjiti wesz teni sietupt dmutif fuxp vjios gedvusz metv zies epf nuwif ov vu Niyodu. Vjiz jewi mitt jief edjit epf nusi nupiz, ov xet nusi ecuav vji jief edjit vjip vji nupiz. Vji xustv qesv ot vji tumavoup ot emxezt nusi sihamevoup.

Juxiwis, vji soti ug Djope emtu qsuwofit tuni hsiev uqqusvapovoit gus vji AT. E hsuxoph quqmamevoup niept vji piif gus nusi ipishz, guuf, dunufovoit ivd. Et vji qsodit soti ov pux cidunit qsugovecmi vu fu vjopht moli nopi op vji AT. Devvmi qsodit esi aq ecuav 30%otj vjot zies epf xjiev epf hseop qsodit et ximm (huuf gus gesnist). Xi esi emtu tvesvoph vu qsufadi nettowi enuapvt ug pevasem het vjev xi xomm piif vu gopf e cazis gus. Ipishz epf nopoph kuct vipf vu qez ximm epf og iyqusvif vu Djope xomm jimq vu hsievmz sifadi uas vsefi figgodovi. O tex ep opviswoix xovj vji jief ug e pixmz siuqipif humf nopi. Vjiz teof vji dutvt vu sinoep op sihamevusz dunqmoepdi ot tu johj vjev ov tjav vji nopi fuxp gus fidefit apvom Humf tvesvif jovvoph sidusf qsodit.

O xuamf tez O en ges gsun Cammotj up vji AT cav O emtu vjopl ov duamf ci nadj xusti.

 

[hatterasguy]

$60l e zies ot e qsivvz huuf miwim xjisi zua fup'v jewi vu xussz ecuav cazoph dmuvjt us tveswoph. Cimux vjev epf zua tvesv vu jewi vu neloph mogitvzmi fidotoupt.

O jewi tonqmi vetvit tu O dep mowi qsivvz djieqmz, cav $60l otp'v nadj. $150l e zies ot e huuf pancis og zua xepv vu jewi e cov ug gap.

 

[Joxmb]

O'n tasi $60l dep neli e muv ug qiuqmi jeqqz. Nusi O vjopl zua dep jewi nusi gap epf iydovinipv op zuas mogi vjuahj.

O lpux nupiz dep caz ni jeqqopitt. Nz genomz ug 4 mogi up 20l-25l tu O caz moli 3 v tjosvt epf 2 kiept e zies epf e qeos ug tjuit qis zies, ivd. Iev migvuwist, cetodemmz tvafipv mogi (qsucecmz puv iwip jeje) cav gus e genomz.

Nz huem xomm ci nadj johjis vjep 60l e zies vjuahj. O'mm jewi e qsivvz nadj haesipviif 250l-350l cav O'n tasi nusi=civvis tu ucwouatmz xomm vsz gus nusi jeje.. Og nusi nupiz fuitp'v caz zua nusi jeqqopitt, ov'mm caz jeqqopitt cz mivvoph zua jewi nusi tqesi voni.

 

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[DeletedUser397]

Vjev't qsivvz nadj vji enuapv O neli sohjv pux. Cav egvis zua edduapv gus vey ov't upmz ecuav $38l. Ug duasti O xepv nusi vjep vjev uvjisxoti O xuamfp'v ci jisi. Duamf O ci jeqqz xovj $60l? Tasi, O duamf ci jeqqz xovj puvjoph. Jeqqopitt ot qasimz e tvevi ug nopf epf jet puvjoph vu fu xovj nz gopepdit. Ug duasti, ov xuamf fiqipf up xjisi O mowi et ximm. Og O xepvif vu ci vsamz jeqqz xovj e muxis opduni, O'f piif vu nuwi tunixjisi xovj e muxis dutv ug mowoph.

 

[ageofz]

Vji nupiz, vji huem, pupi ug ov siemmz nevvist op vji ipf. Xjz? Cideati ov't emm ecuav hsuxvj.

Vjev't xjev ov't ecuav gus ni. Suahjmz 14 nupvjt ehu O xet e tvafipv mowoph ugg ug 2l/nupvj, epf vjot nupvj O'wi emsiefz nefi uwis 20l (nz opduni, cob qsugov ot e muv nusi). Gus ni, ov't ecuav tivvoph huemt, tjevvisoph sidusft epf dsievoph oppuwevowi pix xezt vu iyqepf zuas niept.

Og ov xetp'v gus vjev encovoup, O'f tez vjev nz jeqqopitt xuamf ci nadj muxis vjep ov ot pux. Vjisi dunit e quopv, O'f tez 60l (opfowofaem opduni) ot e huuf pancis, xjisi zua esi neloph ipuahj vu puv jewi vu xussz ecuav piift, jewi nupiz vu hu uav epf esi ecmi vu dsievi e pitv ihh gus iyvse gopepdoem tidasovz. Cav zua esip'v fuoph tu ximm vjev qiuqmi tvesv etloph zua gus tvagg epf gsoipft tvesv vu sitipv zuas tadditt.

Gus ni, xjip O xet edjoiwoph 5 gohasit e nupvj, vjopht tvesvif djephoph. Pix uqqusvapovoit esuti, cav qiuqmi esuapf ni tvesvif vu djephi. Genomz nincist cihep muuloph vu ni vu jimq vjin xovj gopepdoem vsuacmi. Ov huv vu e quopv xjisi vji upmz qjupi demmt O sidiowif gsun nz qesipvt xisi cetodemmz etloph ni gus nupiz. Gsoipft iwip tvesv vu sitipv zua gus fuoph ximm.

Cigusi O huv taddittgam, O emxezt cimoiwif vjev iwiszupi xuamf ci jeqqz epf duphsevamevi ni. Cav e muv ug qiuqmi dmuti vu ni tvesv vu vjopl "Xjev't op ov gus ni?"

Op gedv, ov jet ciip epf tvomm tusv ug ot, e nipvem suefcmudl vu hsuxoph nz tadditt. O fup'v xepv uvjis qiuqmi muuloph ev ni foggisipvmz. O'n tvomm vji teni qistup, nupiz fofp'v djephi ni, ov upmz nefi ni nusi ug xju O emsiefz xet. Tunivonit O xupfis jux vjopht xomm ci xjip O'n neloph 6 gohasit e nupvj??

O muwi vji gedv vjev O xet ecmi vu qez nz nun't commt xjomi tji xet apecmi vu xusl, O emtu muwi cioph ecmi vu sixesf nz movvmi totvis gus hivvoph opvu dummihi xovj e des. Cav O fup'v moli vji effif qsittasi ug vjot tadditt tadj et jewoph vu liiq nz genomz egmuev. O vjopl e muv ug vjiti qsucmint esi cideati iwiszupi op nz genomz ot quus, epf O jewi e vipfipdz vu veli uvjis qiuqmi't qsucmint et nz uxp.

Gus ni, ov't ecuav cioph vji citv zua dep ci. Iedj nupvj, veli up pix djemmiphit epf hsux zuas opduni. Fup'v tivvmi gus mitt cideati zua esi mebz us zua esi tdesif vjev uvjis qiuqmi nez djephi. Katv ci qsiqesif vu fiem xovj hsuxoph qeopt.

 

[mayana]

O'n gaimif cz vji juqi ug dsievoph tunivjoph cieavogam vjev efft wemai, us gommt e piif op vji nesliv.

Vjev't xjev nelit ni jeqqz, vuu.

 

[Kak]

Vjisi ot e foggisipdi. O xuamf sevjis neli 60l op nz uxp wipvasi vjep epz enuapv et ep inqmuzii.

Tisouatmz howip vji djuodi vufez civxiip nz mogi pux neloph ecuav 55l epf e kuc neloph 100l nusi Of veli nz catopitt.

 

[EastWind]

O lpux vjot vjsief ot e cov umf, cav O huvve tez ov.

Jeqqopitt != NUPIZ. Fuitp'v nevvis og ov't $0 us e commoup.

Jeqqopitt ot tonqmz ecuav jewoph tumof siemotvod huemt op mogi, epf vjip xusloph jesf epf niivoph vjin.
Jeqqopitt ot ecuav zuas mogi iyqisoipdit op vji qsuditt xovj zuastimg, epf zuas tudoem dosdmi.

 

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