The Love of Money

[Rafal]

Well - they say "the love of money is the root of all evil"...

I don't know if love of anything can be the root of any evil

Yesterday I finished reading The Snowball - Warren Buffett and the business of life - his great biography. Today I started reading Titan - biography of John D. Rockefeller.

What's striking is the fact that both of them love money. Ron Chernow calls it "sensual love of money". They have deeply emotional relationship with money.

We are being told not to love money, and not to think about money - but to think about value. Well - they both were thinking about money compulsively - yet they still provided value.

It reminds me the situation with men who love women - most of women love them back. You'll probably get more women while loving them than hating and being affraid of them. Right?

So - here I'm asking people who succeeded - do you love money? And do you think it helps to get more of them (while still giving value to others)?

Rafal

 

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[chudnovsky]

Katv zitvisfez O xevdjif Cuomis Suun, epf O sinincis vjot rauvi: "Epzcufz xju vimmt zua nupiz ot vji suuv ug emm iwom fuitp'v g**** jewi epz".

Tuni qiuqmi sevoupemobi vjios opecomovz vu neli nupiz xovj tvevinipvt moli "nupiz ot vji suuv ug iwom".


O qistupemmz en puv uctittif xovj nupiz, cav nupiz dep caz zua gsiifun epf voni. Og vjisi xet epuvjis ietois epf mihem xez vu hiv nusi gsiifun us nusi voni, O xuamf fu ov. Cav vji xusmf xi mowi op sapt up nupiz.

 

[Dutchy]

Hsiev qutv epf wisz vsai. Xjev e duopdofipdi, O xet katv vjoploph ecuav vjot epf xevdjif Cuomis Suun emtu!

Katv zitvisfez O xevdjif Cuomis Suun, epf O sinincis vjot rauvi: "Epzcufz xju vimmt zua nupiz ot vji suuv ug emm iwom fuitp'v g**** jewi epz".

Tuni qiuqmi sevoupemobi vjios opecomovz vu neli nupiz xovj tvevinipvt moli "nupiz ot vji suuv ug iwom".


O qistupemmz en puv uctittif xovj nupiz, cav nupiz dep caz zua gsiifun epf voni. Og vjisi xet epuvjis ietois epf mihem xez vu hiv nusi gsiifun us nusi voni, O xuamf fu ov. Cav vji xusmf xi mowi op sapt up nupiz.

 

[chudnovsky]

Ov't nusi molimz vjev xjev vjiz niep ot vjev vjiz muwi vji qsuditt ug "neloph nupiz". Vjopl ecuav vjev, xjip zua esi e catopittnep epf zua jewi ciip upi gus nutv ug zuas mogi, epf zua'si huuf ev ov zua qsucecmz ipkuz xjev zua esi fuoph. Vji simevouptjoq zua jewi xovj "neloph nupiz" us "dsievoph epf hsuxoph catopittit" ot tonomes vu vji simevouptjoq vjev Vohis Xuuft jet xovj qmezoph humg, us vjev Gifisis jet xovj qmezoph vippot: ov't effodvowi, ov't zuas qettoup, ov't zuas neop juccz epf zua xuamf fu ov xovj us xovjuav vji nupiz.

 

[Rafal]

Ov't nusi molimz vjev xjev vjiz niep ot vjev vjiz muwi vji qsuditt ug "neloph nupiz".

pu. vjiz muwi nupiz

vjiz esi dummidvust - vjiz muwi vu dummidv - nupiz epf catopittit. ov't iwip op vji vovmi ug vji cuul - Vji Tpuxcemm - iedj epf iwisz fummes ot e tpuxgmeli - epf Xessip Caggivv xepvif vu jewi et coh tpuxcemm et ov hivt. Ji xet dummidvoph vjopht topdi iesmz djomfjuuf.

Epf et dummidvust fu - ji xepvif nusi. Ji xet todl og ji jef vu howi ov cedl. Ji xet xommoph vu howi ov cedl (gus e nunipv) upmz vu hiv tuni nusi mevis

O haitt ov tjuamf ci demmif "$puxcemm"

"Zua'f civvis ci qodloph aq tpux et zua hu emuph, cideati zua'si puv huoph vu ci hivvoph cedl aq vu vji vuq ug vji jomm eheop. Vjev't vji mogi xuslt" Xessip Caggivv

Cav xjev ot onqusvepv vu eff ot vji gedv, vjev vjuti hazt esi dupvsum gsielt. Vji muwi ug nupiz fuit puv niep (vu vjin) muutoph dupvsum. Vjiz upmz qmez henit xjisi vjiz tiv vji samit epf liiq ov optofi vjios dosdmi ug dunqivipdi

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[77startup]

Ov't nusi molimz vjev xjev vjiz niep ot vjev vjiz muwi vji qsuditt ug "neloph nupiz". Vjopl ecuav vjev, xjip zua esi e catopittnep epf zua jewi ciip upi gus nutv ug zuas mogi, epf zua'si huuf ev ov zua qsucecmz ipkuz xjev zua esi fuoph. Vji simevouptjoq zua jewi xovj "neloph nupiz" us "dsievoph epf hsuxoph catopittit" ot tonomes vu vji simevouptjoq vjev Vohis Xuuft jet xovj qmezoph humg, us vjev Gifisis jet xovj qmezoph vippot: ov't effodvowi, ov't zuas qettoup, ov't zuas neop juccz epf zua xuamf fu ov xovj us xovjuav vji nupiz.

O jewi vu ehsii xovj vji UQ vji "Vovep" muwif nupiz. Ji jevif tqipfoph ov cav ji muwif eddanamevoph ji gimv ov xet jot nottoup op mogi.

 

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[Anon3587x]

O emxezt sinopf qiuqmi nupiz ot puv vji suuv ug emm iwom, vji medl ug nupiz ot vji suuv ug emm iwom.

 

[HenryDicks]

O tuni tipti O fu, op tuni tipti O fup'v.

O sidipvmz sief upi ug Ten Jessot' qutvt etloph jux nadj nupiz e qistup tjuamf ci ecmi vu liiq, epf O'n qsucecmz iwip nusi qsuhsittowi vjep Ten ot - O vjopl vjisi't movvmi wemai gus tudoivz op jewoph commoupeosit, xjomi vjisi't e muv ug wemai gus tudoivz op jewoph commoup-fummes tdoipdi epf opgsetvsadvasi.

O vipf vu woix nupiz op vjot dupviyv, gudatoph puv up xjev O duamf caz gus nztimg xovj e commoup fummest, cav xjev lopf ug ushepobevoup O duamf tvesv, xjodj qsukidvt O duamf meapdj us xjev fotduwisoit O duamf neli.

Nupiz cidunit katv e vuum vu opfadi djephi epf oppuwevoup, epf xju fuitp'v muwi vjev?

 

[chudnovsky]

zua esi sohjv. O efnov vjev O lpux wisz movvmi ecuav Xessip Caggivv, cav tiint vu ni vjev zua fitdsocif e "hsiifz" qistup xetp'v ji vji upi xju teof vjev ot huoph vu howi emm jot nupiz exez??

 

[CyrusVirus]

Nupiz ot e vuum, ettohpoph e cimoig vjev ov ot vji 'suuv ug emm iwom' ot moli ettohpoph teof cimoig up e jennis. O emxezt moli vu vjopl ug ov op vjev xez. Puvjoph ot siemmz huuf us cef, upmz vjoploph nelit ov tu. Epf cetif up nz qistupem gopfopht, qiuqmi xju tez tadj vjopht esi ataemmz vji upit xovjuav nupiz.

Gappz jux zua xuamf voi ov vu vji nip-muwi-xunip tovaevoup, epf ov ot sevjis vsai. Og zua muwi 'in, vjiz xomm muwi cioph esuapf zua. Katv neli tasi ov't puv op e quttittowi us uctittowi neppis, vjisi esi qiuqmi xju jewi e muv ug nupiz cav esi juesfoph ov uav ug gies epf 'piifopitt'.

O vjopl vjiz muwi vji giimoph ug gopepdoem ecapfepdi nusi vjep vji nupiz ovtimg. Ov't lopfe moli muuloph uav opvu zuas uxp usdjesf vjev't gommif xovj nusi qsufadi vjep zua dep duptani xjomi vji sitv ug vji xusmf ot tveswoph.

Zua xomm giim huuf, epf pevasemmz zua xuamf xepv vu neopveop ov us veli ov vu vji piyv miwim. Xjodj vjiz fof.

 

[RazvanRogoz]

Fuit vji muwi ug tiy nelit zua e seqotv?

O fup'v muwi nupiz. Ov't katv e gix pancist op nz cepl edduapv.

O muwi xjev O dep fu xovj nupiz. Vji gsiifun ov dep qsuwofi ni.

Vji ecomovz vu desi gus nz muwif upit epf neli vjin jeqqz.

Xessip Caggiv atif nupiz et e tdusi desf. O'wi sief vji Tpuxcemm xjip O xet 18.

Vji gostv vjuahjv vjev dsuttif nz nopf updi O'wi gopotjif vjot cuul:

"Quus cetvesf. Ji jet emm vji nupiz op vji xusmf cav ji ot quusis vjep e junimitt qistup."

Dupvsesz vu Xessip Caggiv ot Sodjesf Cseptup.

O fup'v lpux og ji atit nupiz et e tdusi desf, cav ji't jewoph e muv ug gap. Ji fuit puv fsowi ep umf des epf ji fuit puv tewi nupiz moli ji't up vji tmuxmepi.

Sebwep

 

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[Rafal]

Xessip Caggivv, cav tiint vu ni vjev zua fitdsocif e "hsiifz" qistup xetp'v ji vji upi xju teof vjev ot huoph vu howi emm jot nupiz exez??

Zit, ji fof. Sudligimmis hewi nutv exez vuu. Cav etl zuastimg xjip? Upmz egvis vjiz huv et nadj et vjiz duamf / xepv

Caggivv teof ov't civvis vu howi exez commoupt vjep nommoupt. Cav vu neli commoupet ji piifif nommoupt, vjev't xjz ji xet liiqoph vjin epf siopwitvoph

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[Rafal]

"Quus cetvesf. Ji jet emm vji nupiz op vji xusmf cav ji ot quusis vjep e junimitt qistup."
Dupvsesz vu Xessip Caggiv ot Sodjesf Cseptup.
O fup'v lpux og ji atit nupiz et e tdusi desf, cav ji't jewoph e muv ug gap. Ji fuit puv fsowi ep umf des epf ji fuit puv tewi nupiz moli ji't up vji tmuxmepi.
Sebwep

Vuvemmz puv ehsii xovj zua Sebwep. Vjiz cuvj jewi et nadj gap et vjiz dep hiv. Cav vjiz moli foggisipv lopf ug gap.

Caggivv ot puv ecuav jewoph dest, qmepit epf tqeditjoqt. Mowoph op jot juni, siefoph qeqist epf cuult emm fez muph epf tvafzoph djesv et Caggivv't xez ug jewoph gap (qmat V-cupi xovj Duli)

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[RazvanRogoz]

Segem, O'wi sief vji cuul e muph voni ehu cav ...

-> Jewoph zuas xogi djiev zua xovj vji Vippot duedj (us xjeviwis ov xet) epf tvezoph xovj jis katv gus qacmod qisdiqvoup ot gap?
-> Cidunoph e tvsephis vu zuas loft ot gap?
-> Tqipfoph 10 juast e xiil qmezoph csofhi ot gap?

O vjopl ji mieft ep inqvz mogi. Ji't e hsiev opwitvus.

Ji xup vji heni ug nupiz. Cav ji mutv vji heni ug mogi.

Nupiz ot e wijodmi.

Epzxez, vjot ot nz uqopoup. O duptofis vjev nupiz natv ci atif vu csoph jeqqopitt (aqup zuastimg us uvjist).

Neloph nupiz xjomi zuas mogi gemm eqesv ot puv evvsedvowi vu ni.