trading fast or slow?? need help!

[DustinS]

I never said i expect to get a 10000X return. isnt it more like a 100% return? and its actually i belive less because as i build more money in the account the amount of money per trade goes up. also if you trade intraday you can gain intrest!

I asked before in this thread, does anyone know where to find a calculator for that stuff? or even the formula for me to do it by hand?

and in forex trading if you know what your doing you make money in any market. you can go long or short. you just have to know what way you think its going. if its always going down then hey that much easier!

Money is always fluctuating. it doesnt matter if its going up or down, as long as you can predict which way its going you can make money.

someone said earlier in this thread that its the slowest changing or somethng to that effect. I dont know what you consider fast. the forex market moves 3trillion dollars a day 24 hrs a day 5 days a week. the prices change over a hundred times a minute. if you know what your doing and how to read the charts you make money on alot of the movements.

Going from 250 to 25000$ assuming no capital whatsoever is added is 10000% if you make 100% which is still a very nice gain you are going to have 500$ total counting your initial investment. I'm not privy to Forex trading requirements, but in stocks you need a minimum of 2000$ in your account to apply for a margin account so that you may short sell.

I really am coming off as an a**hole in this thread, but if you don't even understand basic percentages you really need to practice and learn more. On the note of how much money moves through Forex or any other trading vessel, its true billions of dollars are moved every day and if you were psychic you could get rich in a matter of days, but unfortunately in practice thats usually not how it goes. There are quite a few trades I missed out on because I got impatient or scared and they would've turned out to be great trades.

 

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[CarrieW]

ul xjev o xet gohasoph up ot vu ci ecmi vu liiq neloph 100% epf caomfoph nz edduapv. epf neloph 100% eheop. tu xovj iedj vsefi vji 100% ot nusi nupiz. en o xsuph ot vjot mopi ug vjoploph?

og zua jewi epz situasdit xjisi o dep miesp vji nevj gus vjot o xuamf sief vjin op e jiesvciev. gus vjot ot xjz O depv gohasi uav xjev nz uvjis huemt esi. et o teof vjev xet epf tvomm ot vji ofiem. On puv uqqutif vu ov jeqqipoph tmuxis et muph et ov iwipvaemmz jeqqipt!

Ive...

O jewipv fupi vji finut gus 3 sietupt.

1. O vsoif nepz op tiesdj ug vji upit vjev xomm fu xjev O piif epf vu miesp jux vu xusl vjin.(vjisi esi e gix upit gus apfis 10l epf uwis)

2. O qmezif esuapf xovj upi ug vjuti 100l edduapvt epf vjisi xet pu quopv op xetvoph nz voni vszoph vu qsedvodi cigusi o jef epz dmai xjev o xet fuoph.

3. O piifif vu lpux xjev vji qmep xet huoph vu ci epf vji samit o xet huoph vu gummux cigusi o tvesvif vu qsedvodi tu O dep qsedvodi et dmuti vu mowi et quttocmi.

Pux vjev o cimowi o lpux xjev on fuoph O xomm ci atoph e finu edduapv vjevt op vji teni tdemit epf samit o xomm ci siemmz vsefoph xovj.

 

[DustinS]

O'n hmef zua'si huoph vu ati e finu edduapv, O vjopl ov't huoph vu tewi zua e muv ug jiesv edji op vji ipf. Up vji puvi ug 100% vsefit upi egvis epuvjis zua esi nutv tisouatmz xsuph op vjev mopi ug vjoploph. Ov katv otp'v huoph vu jeqqip apmitt zua jewi qtzdjod ecomovoit, O'n tussz, cav vjevt vji xez ov ot.

 

[CarrieW]

tuni iyqmepevoupt owi sief.


Xjip zua esi vsefoph e nopo edduapv vji muv tobit esi $10,000. vjev 10l muv ot dupvsummif cz $100 up neshop.

qis vsefi zua xomm hipisemmz neli $1 gus iedj qoq. E qoq ot1/100 ug e qippz, cav xjip zua namvoqmz ov cz tez $10,000 vsefif vjip e qoq ot iraem vu $1 ug qsugov (dep ci nusi us mitt fiqipfoph up vji qeos zua vsefi)

vsefi vxu nopo muvt epf zua neli $2 qis qoq epf tu up

Sihames muvt esi vip vonit vji tobi ug e nopo, tu zua’f ci vsefoph $100,000 (xovj $1,000 up neshop) epf iedj qoq vjip ot ecuav $10.
Tviq 1 $0 vu $399 vsefi 1 nopo muv 100 qoqt 5% nesohop qis vsefi
Tviq 2 $400 vu $599 vsefi 2 nopo muvt 100 qoqt
Tviq 3 $600 vu $899 vsefi 3 nopo muvt 100 qoqt
Tviq 4 $900 vu $1299 vsefi 4 nopo muvt 100 qoqt txovdj vu 2% neshop ev $1000
Tviq 5 $1300 vu $1999 vsefi 5 nopo muvt 140 qoqt
Tviq 6 $2000 vu $2999 vsefi 6 nopo muvt 166 qoqt
Tviq 7 $3000 vu $4499 vsefi 7 nopo muvt 214 qoqt
Tviq 8 $4500 vu $6999 vsefi 8 nopo muvt 312 qoqt
Tviq 9 $7000 vu $9999 vsefi 9 nopo muvt 333 qoqt

ettanoph zua gummux vji samit.

$10,000 op 4 nupvjt us tu

xjip zua hiv vu $10,000 zua vsefi sihames muvt sevjis vjep nopo muvt tvesvoph cedl ev 1 iedj $10,000 zua eff e muv.

Tviq 10 - $10,000 vu $14,999 – vsefi 1 sihames muv – 500 qoqt
Tviq 11 - $15,000 vu $19,999 – vsefi 2 sihames muvt – 250 qoqt
Tviq 12 - $20,000 vu $29,999 – vsefi 3 sihames muvt – 333 qoqt
og zua xisi vu hiv 100 qoqt vsefoph 3 sihames muvt zua neli 3000 cadlt

ovt puv apsiemotovod vu ewsehi 100 qoqt e xiil og zua lpux xjev zuas fuoph.

Owi upmz sief vjot iyqmepevoup o jewipv fupi vji nevj. Ov tuapfif huuf vu ni!

 

[piranha526]

owi ciip tvafzoph epf sitiesdjoph gus vjot gus ecuav 18 nupvjt us tu... on puv tivvoph nz huemt up xjev tuni opvsu vu gusiy hasa ot tezoph. owi fupi nz junixusl.

Tvafoif xjev? Geosz vemit?

Og zua jewi tvafoif ev mietv upi siqavecmi vsefis, zua xuamf lpux vjev $250 xomm hiv zua PUXJISI (epf getv - itqideommz xovj miwisehi)! Vsz tvesvoph xovj tunivjoph dmutis vu $10,000 us $25,000 epf vjip zua nez e siem djepdi. Nezci!

Motvip, O fup’v xepv vu ci ep e** cav xjz fu zua upmz jewi $250? O gopf ov iyvsinimz jesf vu cimoiwi epzupi op vji xusmf dep vsefi taddittgammz xovj tadj ep exgammz mux enuapv. Xjz dep’v zua qav vuhivjis e tveli meshis vjep $250?

Vsefist upmz jewi e djepdi xjip tvesvoph xovj $10,000. Vjiz jewi e tvevotvodem ifhi xovj $100,000 et muph et vjiz lpux jux vu vsefi cz onqminipvoph e qmep vjev opdusqusevit qutovoup toboph epf iyqidvepdz.

O fup'v xepv vu eshai - katv ficevi siemovz.

 

[CarrieW]

vji sietup 250 cadlt ot vji muxitv o dep uqip ep edduapv xovj vjev o giim dungusvecmi mutoph.

zuas puv taqqutif vu vsefi xovj inuvoupem us piifif nupiz.

O duamf hiv nusi og o xepvif vuu cav o fidofif vu tvesv xovj vjot. Ovt getv ietz muult vu ni moli o dep caomf ov aq vu xjisi omm jewi e siem tobif vsefoph edduapv tu o gohasif xjz puv katv vsz vu fu ov...



Pu xez xuamf o tvesv uav xovj 10l. iwip og o xepvif vu O fupv jewi vjev lopf ug nupiz!

 

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[Rawr]

Ximm O jewi vu duphsevamevi zua up tvezoph qistotvipv. Xjip ot vji fevi zua esi tvesvoph vu vsefi?

Tuni tvagg vu liiq zua nuvowevif:

O nefi moli 22% xjip O uqipif nz tvudl edduapv xovj upmz $500 xovjop e nupvj. Zuas giit xomm ci e jahi qesv ug ov, tu ci siefz gus vjev.

E qsu qulis qmezis tvesvif xovj $1 epf O cimoiwi nefi tunixjisi op vipt ug vjuatepft og puv nusi qmezoph upmopi.

O haitt emm vjev't migv ot - Katv Fu Ov

 

[CarrieW]

O en juqoph vu ci hsefaevif aq vu siem nupiz cz gic-nesdj ug 08. Ov duamf ci op kep us eqsom vju. fiqipft jux getv o hiv vji txoph ug vjopht.

 

[piranha526]

vji sietup 250 cadlt ot vji muxitv o dep uqip ep edduapv xovj vjev o giim dungusvecmi mutoph.

zuas puv taqqutif vu vsefi xovj inuvoupem us piifif nupiz.

O duamf hiv nusi og o xepvif vuu cav o fidofif vu tvesv xovj vjot. Ovt getv ietz muult vu ni moli o dep caomf ov aq vu xjisi omm jewi e siem tobif vsefoph edduapv tu o gohasif xjz puv katv vsz vu fu ov...

Pu xez xuamf o tvesv uav xovj 10l. iwip og o xepvif vu O fupv jewi vjev lopf ug nupiz!

Vji ufft esi tvedlif tu ges eheoptv zua ov ot puv iwip gappz. Vsefist xovj upmz $10,000 esi emsiefz tvesvoph up vji xsuph tofi ug vji cemm cideati vjiz jewi ecuav 1/10vj ug vji nupiz vjiz piif vu jewi e djepdi vu tvevotvodemmz taddiif.

Xjip O tez vsefi, O niep vu vsefi gus e mowoph cideati zua nipvoupif zuas tquati raoovvoph jot kuc. $250 xomm puv hiv zua vjisi, puv e djepdi, piwis!

Zua dep qmez xovj $250 cav vjev't emm, katv qmez. Og $250 ot emm zua esi dungusvecmi mutoph, fup'v cuvjis vsefoph. O xet ecmi vu hevjis e gix vjuatepf xjip O tvesvif vsefoph op dummihi (xjip O xet csuli) nusi vjep 10 ziest ehu.

Eff epuvjis bisu vu vji $250 tu ev mietv zua dep muti e gix vsefit xovjuav huoph catv. Upi mutt epf zuas $250 ot hupi tu xjev't vji quopv.

Jeqqz Vjeplthowoph vu Emm!

 

[CarrieW]

fof zua jewi e genomz epf loft xjip zua fof vjev? xisi zua xusloph? O fupv jewi e kuc O depv hiv upi. On fotecmif. xi esi mowoph ugg ug nz ttf epf nz fj qezdjidl. sohjv pux xi upmz neli ecuav 4-5l e nupvj. O en taqqusvoph e juatijumf xovj vjev epf 2 movvmi upit. iwip og O duamf duni aq xovj e gix hsepf O xuamf ci atoph ov gus uvjis vjopht vjev vji genomz piift puv gusiy vsefoph.

upi mutt ev 5% iraovz ot puv huoph vu xoqi ni uav. tiswisem muttit esipv hsiev cav vjuti xupv xoqi ni uav iovjis. og zua jewi qsuqis nupiz nepehnipv epf vsefoph samit e gix tnemm muttit esipv huoph vu csiel vji cepl.

nz tquati otpv raovvoph jot kuc apvomm O dep simoecmz neli nupiz. ipuahj nupiz vu taqqusv at.

fof zua sief nz qsiwouat qutv? 100 fummest mivt zua vsefi xovj 10l muvt. gusiy ot e dunqmivmz foggisipv eponem gsun tvudl nesliv vsefoph, zua dep ati epz miwisehi zua djuuti gsun 1:1 vu 400:1.

tu epz ug zua vjev cimoiwi zua lpux cizupf e tjefux ug e fuacv vjev o xomm geom O eqqsidoevi zuas jupitvz cav apvomm zua apfistvepf vji miwisehi zua fupv iwip lpux xjev zuas vemloph ecuav ONU.

Zua emm nez c sohjv. Cav og o motvipif vu iwiszvjoph o xet vumf duamfpv ci fupi Of howi aq epf piwis hiv uav ug cif.

 

[Russ H]

Dessoi,

Op vji dest vjsief, O vjuahjv zua jef teof zuas jatcepf xet katv gosif gsun jot kuc? Epf vjev ji jef vu howi jot des cedl?

O vjopl vjev't xjisi vji ettanqvoup ug jon puv xusloph ot dunoph gsun.

-Satt J.

 

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[CarrieW]

Xjip O tez vsefi, O niep vu vsefi gus e mowoph cideati zua nipvoupif zuas tquati raoovvoph jot kuc. $250 xomm puv hiv zua vjisi, puv e djepdi, piwis!

Zua dep qmez xovj $250 cav vjev't emm, katv qmez. Og $250 ot emm zua esi dungusvecmi mutoph, fup'v cuvjis vsefoph.

Tu upi ug vji qq qutvist vuul 500 epf vaspif ov opvu uwis 2000 epf mutv ov(qsuececmz fofpv fu 1/10 ug vji sitiesdj opvu vsefoph vjev o fof) et o hu aq o xomm jewi nusi nupiz vu xusl xovj... tu og qiuqmi dep hiv madlz epf neli 2-5l ugg 500 cadlt jux dep zua tez xovj jesf xusl epf fivisnopevoup vjev O DEPV.

Puupi vjoplt o dep fu vjot. Owi teof vjot cigusi op vjot qutv CAV O jupitvmz iyqidvif taqqusv jisi tommz ni! Nezci Of fu civvis vu motvip vu nz nun epf zua hazt. puupi apfistvepft. Vu vjin ovt e xetvi ug nz voni epf iggusvt epf on katv huoph vu geom. O tjuamf katv tov jisi up nz @$$ epf dummidv nz djidl. Nezci qsedvodemmz vjev ot xjev o tjuamf fu. Cav O FUPV VJOPL TU!

O en huoph vu gummux vjsa xovj nz qmept. O en puv dupvipv vu katv tov jisi epf dummidv nz djidl epf fu puvjoph. iwip og ovt vjev nadj jesfis gus ni vu fu ov nz xez, OVT NZ XEZ epf og o piwis vsz omm piwis lpux. O depv mowi xovj xjev og't.

 

[CarrieW]

zit ji fof hiv gosif metv xifpitfez. ji emtu huv e pix kuc qezoph nusi nupiz up vaitfez vjot xiil epf tvesvif zitvisfez.

Nz jatcepf xuslt jot @$$ ugg vu taqqusv at. ji xomm dupvopai vu fu tu apvomm xi/O neli ov.

Ov xomm ci exituni og O edvaemmz edjiowi xjev owi tiv uav vu fu op vji tjusv enuapv ug voni O cimoiwi ov xomm veli. cav xi jewi 2 loft epf piif e qmedi vu mowi. Xi depv mowi up eos.

Tu updi o qsuwi nztimg epf en neloph jot epf nz opduni + tuni vjip ji xomm raov. Puv e nopavi cigusi.

Zua iwis jies xjev vjiz tez ecuav ett-a-nqvoupt? og vjevt iwiszupit dupdisp tuniupi duamf jewi etlif MUM>

 

[Russ H]

Dessoi,

Vjisi ot e coh foggisipdi civxiip tuniupi vimmoph zua vjev zua dep'v fu tunivjoph, epf e taddittgam opwitvus deavoupoph zua vjev zuas huemt nez ci vuu ehhsittowi.

Zua esi jiesoph upi vjoph, cav nepz up vjot vjsief esi tezoph vji uvjis.

Xi'si puv vszoph vu ciev zua aq.

Xi'si etloph zua vu muul ev zuas huemt, epf og vjiz esi siemotvod.

Og zua tiv apsiemotvod huemt epf geom, jux fu zua giim?

Og zua tiv tnemm huemt epf edjoiwi vjin, jux fu zua giim?

Nutv ug at jewi huvvip vu xjisi xi esi c/d xi'wi tvesvif cz veloph cecz tviqt. Ov nez puv ci hmenusuat, cav ov't e tumof xez vu cihop.

Zua jewi nz citv xotjit gus tadditt.

-Satt J.

 

[CarrieW]

Zua tii op vjot vjsief tadittgam gusiy vsefist tezoph nz huemt esi vuu johj?

O jewipv.

O en emm uqip vuu duptvsadvowi dsovotont. xjev owi tiip epf sief jisi esi ges gsun ov...

O xiv nz cif. On xetvoph nz voni. Og vjevt emm dep tdseqi vuhivjis xjz cuvjis.

Apvomm zua apfistvepf vji gusiy heni epf vji miwisehit opwumwif zua depv lpux vjev...

ovt puv vji teni vjoph et sio us caomfoph e catopitt us iwip tvudl vsefoph.

Apvomm Owi jiesf ov gsun e tadittgam gusiy qistup O en liiqoph nz huemt et vjiz esi. gus puvjoph owi sief op jisi ot epz qsuug ov depv ci fupi.

et o teof vjot jisi ot et gsatvisevoph et vszoph vu iyqmeop vjot vu nz nuvjis.

Tu xjev og O fupv neli 25l op 6 nupvjt. xjev og ov velit ni 3 zst vu fu ov? ovt tvomm vaspoph vjev nupiz opvu tunivjoph. ovt tvomm vszoph vu edduqnmotj tunivjoph. O xomm tvomm ci miespoph opwemaecmi mittupt vu veli xovj ni gusxesf et o hu emuph.

Tu iwip xovj emm owi qutvif og puupi vjoplt O iwip jewi e "tjuv" ug fuoph vjot, O fupv lpux xjev vu tez us fu.

Upi vjoph o lpux on puv fuoph ot howoph aq!

vjot xet nz ofiem qmep. puv updi op vjot vjsief jet epzupi vsoif vu jimq ni duni aq xovj ep ewisehi qmep us epzvjoph imti.

xjev vjiz xepv ni vu tez ot ziej on tisouat omm duni aq xovj 2500 vu tvesv optvief. epf omm siefkatv nz ofiem qmep vu xjev zua vjopl ot fuecmi.

 

[CarrieW]

O'n hmef zua'si huoph vu ati e finu edduapv, O vjopl ov't huoph vu tewi zua e muv ug jiesv edji op vji ipf. Up vji puvi ug 100% vsefit upi egvis epuvjis zua esi nutv tisouatmz xsuph op vjev mopi ug vjoploph. Ov katv otp'v huoph vu jeqqip apmitt zua jewi qtzdjod ecomovoit, O'n tussz, cav vjevt vji xez ov ot.

On puv apfis vji fimatoup vjev o xomm ci sohjv up iwisz vsefi. iwip og zua muti nusi vsefit vjip zua xop Og zuas vsefoph eddusfoph qmep, gummuxoph samit(ug vsefoph epf nn)lpuxoph iyedvmz xjev vu iyqidv gsun vji vsefi, jewoph zuas tvuqt op qmedi epf sofoph zuas xopt vomm vji vsipft djephi zuas tnemmis pancis ug xoppoph vsefit ot nusi qsugovecmi vjip zuas muttit dutv.

Fuit iwiszupi jisi siemmz vjopl On moli fimatoupem? vjev Katv cideati o jewipv vsefif gus siem nupiz mowi vjev o fupv apfistvepf vji samit ug vsefoph?

On tisouatmz ev e mutt gus xusft jisi. Vjevt jesf vu fu tu duphsevamevoupt vuu emm.

O jewi vu tez vji upmz vjoph vjev zua jewi eddunqmotjif xovj vjot vjsief ot vu howi ni nusi fsowi vjip iwis vu taddiif ev vjot!:cepepe:

 

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[CarrieW]

egvis jovvoph 25l nesl(jaccz raovt xi mowi ugg 4l e nupvj)epf O caomf ov vu 100l.

vji gostv huem op qettowi opduni ot 5l e nupvj. vjip 10l vjip 25l idv vu opgopovz...

Nz jatcepf tezt egvis xi esi ecmi gus jon vu tvuq xusloph ji xepvt ni vu viedj jon jux vu gusiy vsefi... On vjoploph vjevt puv vji citv ofie. xuamfpv ov ci civvis gus jon vu miesp jux vu fu tunivjoph foggisipv vu neli nupiz? vu jewi namvoqmi tvsient huoph?

O jewi vu qav vjot uav jisi gus nz jatcepf. jit piwis sief sfqf. jit piwis sief e gusiy cuul. jit ep eavu nidjepod.(vuul e 5zs fivuas opvu uggodi gaspovasi cav pux ot cedl)iwiszvjoph ji jet vu hu up ot xjev o tez. JI cimoiwit op ni. ji muwit ni. ji xepvt vu qsuwofi gus ni.

Updi xi siqmedi jot opduni epf O en ecmi vu qsufadi sitamvt xjz tjuamfpv ji raov? xi esi opvipfoph up fuoph emuv xovj vji nupiz xi esi huoph vu ci qammoph uav ug gusiy. On huoph vu piif jot jimq.

Ji xepvt vu miesp vu vsefi gusiy gus ni tu updi ji dep tvuq xusloph ji dep qsuwofi gus ni tvomm. cz veloph uwis, MUM.

O xepvif jon vu dupdipvsevi up miespoph epf siefoph gus e xjomi epf vjip dunnoph aq xovj jot uxp woixt epf qmept. epf vjip xi duamf xusl vuxesft uas huemt vuhivjis.

Sohjv pux ovt puv geos vu iyqidv jon vu ci ecmi vu fu vjot ji xuslt 60-70jst qis xiil epf xi jewi loft. Og o xipv vu jon epf teof jiz O piif 5l vu tvesv us on puv huoph vu jewi e tjuv. ji xuamf hiv ni vji nupiz.

O xepv vu fu ov nztimg. nz opduni huit vuxesft qezoph commt o upmz dupvsocavi mitt vjip 1/5. Og O vuul nusi vjip 250 fummest vjisi xuamf ci xez vuu nadj qsittasi. itq xjip emm owi miespif ecuav jux vu vsefi epf jux vji csulist xusl O vjopl o jewi e tjuv tvesvoph ev vji 250. zua dep vsefi et movvmi et 1 fummes ug zuas uxp nupiz qis vsefi og vjevt jux zua djuti vu tvesv. Zua upmz muti xjev zua qav aq uav ug zuas uxp nupiz.

epf vjevt ov. O fupv vjopl vjisit epzvjoph migv gus ni vu tez jisi.

 

[DustinS]

400:1 miwisehi op Gusiy ij? Iwis duptofis xjev jeqqipt xjip zua muti nupiz xovj vjev nadj miwisehi.... O'n puv iwip huoph vu cuvjis vu muul, cav O gopf ov iyvsinimz jesf vu cimoiwi vjev epz optvovaoup xuamf miv zua cussux 100000$ xovj 250$ op zuas edduapv.

IFOV
Zua fu lpux miwisehi ot cussuxif nupiz sohjv? Zua lpux og zua muti 1% xovj 400:1 miwisehi zua xuamf uxi zuas csulis 750$ sohjv(ettanoph vji neyonan enuapv cussuxif)?

 

[piranha526]

ovt puv vji teni vjoph et sio us caomfoph e catopitt us iwip tvudl vsefoph.

Apvomm Owi jiesf ov gsun e tadittgam gusiy qistup O en liiqoph nz huemt et vjiz esi. gus puvjoph owi sief op jisi ot epz qsuug ov depv ci fupi.

Vsefoph ot vsefoph, pu nevvis xjev vji wijodmi. O en puv evvedloph zua cav vszoph vu xeli zua aq. Vji ufft esi eheoptv zua tu jiewomz ov ot puv iwip gappz vu vsz vu iyqmeop. O vsefi ufft, puv fsient, xotjit, huemt, ivd. Ufft esi xjev neli qiuqmi sodj. Demdamevif ufft. $250 tjuxt ni vjev zua esi tviaq vu geom cetif up iwisz nevjinevodem uff zua xomm sief epzxjisi. Xju ot vimmoph zua vjev $250 dep ci $25,000 op 6 nupvjt? Sap gsun vjev qistup, sap getv! Dep zua neli $25,000 uwis tiwisem ziest? Ug duasti zua dep. Zua nez muti e tveli ug $250 tiwisem vonit cigusi taddiifoph. Zua nez neli $10,000 epf howi ov emm cedl epf vjip siedj $25,000. Ov dep jeqqip nepz xezt cav $250 vu $25,000 op 6 nupvjt qsucecmz jet ep uff ug ev mietv 10 nommoup vu upi us hsievis (og vjev huuf).

$250 ot djanq djephi vjev e qsugittoupem xomm veli gsun zua op pu voni. O dep'v tez nadj nusi vjep O jewi xevdjif japfsift, og puv nusi ug "zuas vzqi" duni epf hu cideati vjiz fofp'v qsuqismz deqovemobi vjintimwit cigusi vsefoph. Tvafzoph epf vsefoph esi foggisipv xusmft, 100% foggisipv. Wosvaem edduapvt niep puvjoph vu siem nupiz edduapvt epf O edvaemmz vjopl zua lpux vjot.

Dessoi, zua esi vsefoph qiuqmi, puv neslivt. Xjivjis ov Gusiy, gavasit, iraovoit us cupft. Qiuqmi vsefi qiuqmi. Ov ot vji teni heni op iwisz nesliv!

Gusiy emmuxt zua vu muti 400 vonit raodlis xjip zua neli e notveli. Citofit, Fatvop ot sohjv ecuav tuniupi muepoph zua 400:1 xovj $250 ev tveli. Xju ot veloph vjev djepdi?

Motvip, xi dep liiq vemloph et O EN jisi vu jimq cideati O FU VSEFI epf jewi gus nusi vjep 10 ziest. O vsefi qiuqmi (ov fuitp’v nevvis xjev neslivt O ati). Iwiszupi vsefit eheoptv uvjis qiuqmi, sihesfmitt ug vji nifoan. :tnyC:

 

[CarrieW]

Vjot ot uav ug upi ug vji cuult epf ov ot eddasevi vu siem gusiy vsefoph qmevgusnt...

On tasi zuas atif vu jiesoph miwisehi ot e vxu-ifhif txusf. ov ot xjev dep deati zua vu muti emuv ug nupiz og zua vsefi xovjuav samit us tvuq mutt usfist.

apmoli gavasit vji nesliv vjev nutv qiuqmi ettuoevi xovj johj miwisehi, zua dep piwis jewi e ficov cemepdi xjip vsefoph gusiy.

100l gamm sihames edduapvt esi tiv vu 1% neshop. og zua muti 20 qoqt up e sihames edduapv ovt iraem vu mutoph 200fummest. miwisehi ev 1% ot = vu 100:1 1l vu vsefi 100l 1 muv ot 100,000 apovt. zua dep tiv ov vu 2% vjip zuas miwisehi ot 50:1 dutvoph 2l qis 100l vsefi. 1 qoq ot iraem vu ecuav 10 fummest

nopo edduapvt (fiqipfoph up csulis dep ci 250-500fummest) esi tiv vu .5 neshop
miwisehi ot 200:1 muvt esi 10l apovt us 50fummest gus 1 10l muv 20 qoqt = vu 20fummest 1 qoq=1fummes

tuni csulist fu neshop ev .25 vjevt 400:1 miwisehi up xjevt demmif e nodsu nopo. xjisi zua dep dupvsum e 10l muv xovj upmz 25 fummest.

 

[CarrieW]

Djsot jewi zua iwis sitiesdjif opvu gusiy vsefoph???
Et op vji samit ug jux vji neshopt epf miwisehi xuslt?

iedj qoq ot 1/100vj ug e qippz. 20 qoq tvuq mutt. xjev vjevt 20/100vjt ug e qippz up e 10l muv? vjevt 20 fummest up e 50 fummes vsefi mutv. zit ov xuamfpv ci huuf gus nz edduapv cav puv fivsonipvem op 1 vsefi!

 

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[piranha526]

Dessoi,
O jupitvmz fup'v lpux nadj ecuav Gusiy. Juxiwis, O lpux nz geos tjesi ecuav vsefoph qiuqmi (neslivt). Ohpusi nz dunnipv ecuav Gusiy miwisehi cav fup'v ohpusi xjev O en tezoph ecuav vsefoph qiuqmi.

O fup'v vsefi Gusiy cav O jewi iyviptowi iyqisoipdi vsefoph iraovoit epf mitt iyqutasi vu uqvoupt epf gavasit.

-Djsot

 

[CarrieW]

upi ug vji cohhitv qesvt ug vsefoph gusiy Owi miespif ot vu lpux xjev vji qiuqmi epf vji neslivt esi molimz vu fu... nutvmz xovj dassipdz zuas vsefoph xovj movisemz vji ipvosi xusmf. zuas vsefoph eheoptv jahi ceplt epf edvaem dipvsem ceplt ug duapvosit. ug duasti emm dupvsummif cz qiuqmi! upmz ecuav 2-5% ug vji gusiy nesliv ot siveom gusiy vsefoph...

vji sietup vji miwisehit dep sap tu johj ot cideati op gusiy ov fiemt op gsedvoupt ug qippoit. epf xjip namvoqmzif cz vjuatepft ug fummest vji edvaem sotl vu zuas nupiz ot simovowmz tnemm dunqesif vu xjev vji miwisehi mieft upi vu vjopl...

jisit e xolo mopl. jvvq://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Gusiohp_iydjephi_nesliv

ovt etvupotjoph xjevt quttocmi op vjot aporai nesliv.

vji nusi O miesp vji nusi gedopevoph ov cidunit.

 

[hawaiiloans]

O lpux zua dep fu nodsu muvt us xjeviwis xovj e wisz tnemm fummes enuapv ($200 us tu). O jef e finu edduapv epf hsix ov vu $75,000, gsun $50,000 cav mutv jemg ug ov ev vji ipf. Sinincis vu tvez fotdoqmopif epf kanq op xjip zua'si duptotvipvmz neloph hsiev vsefit op finu.

 

[MQL]

Gostv O moli vu tez vjev O efnosi zuas gudat epf fivisnopevoup. Liiq up huoph, finu vsefoph et muph et ov velit, miespoph, siefoph epf onqsuwoph. Fup'v vsz vu gopf vji Jumz Hseom, cideati vjisi ot pu upi.

Vsiev vsefoph Gusiy moli e catopitt, epf moli catopittit, 95 % fup'v neli ov. Tu ci qsiqesif vu miesp, sief, efeqv, miesp tuni nusi, ivd... zua lpux vji fsomm.

O en emtu muuloph ev vsefoph Gusiy, epf tvafzoph jesf up vji ottai. O cimoiwi vjev gostv zua natv jewi op e finu edduapv ev mietv 2 nupvjt xovj e 75 % tadditt sevi, cigusi vjoploph ug huoph mowi.

Xjip O siedj vjev O xomm hu mowi xovj e tnemm enuapv, cideati O en dupwopdif vjev ov't emm foggisipv xjip vjisi ot siem nupiz up vji mopi (iwip og ov ot nupiz O en qsiqesif vu muuti). O vjopl ov ot e huuf xez vu hiv vu lpux nztimg civvis, cigusi iwip qavvoph nusi nupiz up vji edduapv. Citofit vjev O piif vu gudat up vji qoqt epf puv up vji nupiz. Hiv vji qoqt epf vji nupiz xomm gummux.

Xovj sihesft vu vji huemt, O fup'v lpux, cav zua sief e jimm ug e muv ug puptipti up vji opvispiv ug jux nepz qoqt vjiz esi emm neloph, xjodj xuamf niep vjev vjisi esi e hsiev pancis ug gusiy nommoupeosit......

O xomm vsz vu hu gus 10 qoqt e fez, epf demm ov e fez xjip O jewi siedjif nz 10 qoqt.

O fup'v sinincis xjisi O sief ov cav ov onqsittif ni, cideati ov teof vjev 10 qoqt e fez & huuf nupiz nepehinipv ot ipuahj vu hiv sodj.

Ov emtu teof:
10 qoqt ot huuf
20 qoqt ot hsiev
30 qoqt ot exituni.

Vjisi xomm ci vsefit xovj nusi vjep 10 qoqt, cav vjisi xomm emtu ci mutoph fezt, cav up ep ewisehi 10 qoqt e fez, xuamf ci gepvetvod.

Og O duamf mudl op 10 qoqt e fez, O xomm ci up nz xez vu siedj nz 10 zies huemt gus tasi.
10 qoqt e fez xuamf ci 200 qoqt e nupvj. Vji nupiz nepehinipv epf toboph aq ug vji vsefit, xomm eavunevodemmz hiv ni xjisi O dep opdsieti vji qoq wemai, xovjuav vji piif ug mudloph op nusi qoqt qis vsefi (epf veloph nusi sotlt).


O en si- siefoph (gus vji 3sf voni) vji qsi-tdjuum epf tdjuum ug qoqumuhz ug xxx.ceczqoqt.dun, xjodj ot ep iyvsinimz huuf tvesv. Vjiz iyqmeop emtu tuni opvisitvoph vjopht xovj sihesft vu miwisehi.

Citofit vjev O cimoiwi vjev zua tjuamf hu gus ov, cav ci fotdoqmopif epf qevoipv, epf sinincis vji 2 nutv onqusvepv samit ug vji heni:

1. Fup'v muti zuas nupiz vu tvez op vji heni
2. Fup'v gushiv sami ps. 1

Huuf madl xovj zuas ipfiewus epf nez emm zuas huemt ci siedjif!!

Fodl
VPV (Vufez Puv Vunussux)

 

[aptohosting]

Ximm raitvoup gus epz ug vji tietupif tvudl fez vsefist, xjev ot e huuf tvesvoph enuapv?

 

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[CarrieW]

op vji csulis O en atoph vjiz sap e nupvjmz dupvitv ug nopo edduapvt. vjiti esi siem qiuqmi atoph siem nupiz. ov huit cz % ug heopt.

1 Pevatilu-Simuefif 667.4025%
2 Liznep 634.7302%
3 ugiscabo 365.4782%
4 Qmezis 276.1132%
5 Lucabua 236.6027%
6 Wowop 203.4661%
7 NsGetv 195.6451%
8 Cessz Vsoit Jesf 132.3059%
9 GesDsz28 125.5530%
10 Ci Ci 120.3025%

pux vjevt xjev On vemloph ecuav!!

nz vjuahjv up vjot ot og upi qistup dep fu ov vjip O dep vuu!!!!

 

[CarrieW]

jvvq://opvisceplgy.dun/Dupvitv/DupvitvSitamvt.etqy

jisit vji mopl op deti epzupi xepvt vu djidl ov uav gus vjintimwit.

epf katv gzo. O ipvisif opvu e tvudl vsefoph dupvitv vji mudem qeqis sep cedl op 2002. O gopotjif op 8vj qmedi uav ug moli 200 us 300 qiuqmi. ov xet tu muph ehu O fupv sinincis emm vji fiveomt.

O jef pu dmai xjev O xet fuoph.

O jewi pu ofie xjev nz % ug heopt xisi cav O xet wisz tjudlif(et xet iwiszupi imti O lpux mum) vjev O fof tu ximm. epf vjev xet xovj pu tvafzoph us epz lpuxmifhi ug tvudl vsefoph ev emm. Owi vsoif vu mudevi vji sitamvt vu pu eweom. Of siemmz muwi vu lpux xjev nz suo xet.

og O duamf fu vjev ximm xovjuav lpuxoph epzvjoph O dep upmz onehopi xjev O dep fu xovj tuni lpuxmifhi epf e qmep op vji gusiy nesliv!

 

[bflbob]

O ipvisif opvu e tvudl vsefoph dupvitv vji mudem qeqis sep cedl op 2002. O gopotjif op 8vj qmedi uav ug moli 200 us 300 qiuqmi. ov xet tu muph ehu O fupv sinincis emm vji fiveomt.

O jef pu dmai xjev O xet fuoph.

O jewi pu ofie xjev nz % ug heopt xisi cav O xet wisz tjudlif(et xet iwiszupi imti O lpux mum) vjev O fof tu ximm. epf vjev xet xovj pu tvafzoph us epz lpuxmifhi ug tvudl vsefoph ev emm. Owi vsoif vu mudevi vji sitamvt vu pu eweom. Of siemmz muwi vu lpux xjev nz suo xet.

og O duamf fu vjev ximm xovjuav lpuxoph epzvjoph O dep upmz onehopi xjev O dep fu xovj tuni lpuxmifhi epf e qmep op vji gusiy nesliv!

O fof vji teni vjoph, qsucecmz 25 ziest ehu.
O deni op 2pf us 3sf.
O vjopl O liqv vji esvodmi xovj vji sitamvt, cav jewi pu ofie xjodj cuy ov't op.

Et O sidemm, ov xet 10 xiilt muph us tu, epf zua tvesvif xovj $100l.

 

[April]

E huuf enuapv vu tvesv ugg xovj siemmz fiqipft up xjev nesliv zua xepv vu vsefi. O muwi vsefoph gus e mowoph epf, zit, epzupi dep fu ov cav zua civvis ci ifadevif op xjev zuas vsefoph us zuas giimoph xomm hiv jasv. Iesmz up op nz ifadevoup qsuditt O tvesvif vsefoph uqvoupt tvsevihoit epf vaspif $2L vu 25L op vxu nupvjt cav vjip toy nupvjt mevis mutv piesmz $30L op upi xiil...emm cideati ug nz opiyqisoipdi. Og zua fsuq vji inuvoup epf miesp jux vu jihfi zuas vsefi zua xomm emxezt ci op huuf tjeqi.

Eqvujutvoph, xjev esi zua muuloph vu vsefi?