Has the World CHANGED?

[Russ H]

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I was listening to a commentator a day or so ago, and he made the following observation:

This entire generation has been raised under an umbrella of prosperity. We've had low inflation, and almost constant growth for 25 years. For many, this is just "the way things are"-- it's been this way for as long as they can remember--their entire adult lives-- and they're completely shocked at the current state of the economy.

Thing is, these cycles happen. And a whole lot of adults-- almost 3 decades worth--- are now getting their first taste of what a real economic downturn is like.

. . . that got me to thinking ('cause I'm always thinking) . . .

Has the world changed, in substantial ways?

I entered the world of work in 1984-- and while interest rates were high, things were definitely growing.

How about all of you?

Were any of you in the world of work (as adults) prior to 1979?

And a last (perhaps loaded) question:

Do you think the relative "quiet" on the fastlane lately is due, in part, to everyone getting their bearings-- trying out new things to see what works-- but they hesitate to share these things, not out of propriety, but because they do not yet know if these new techniques will work and be successful?

-Russ H.

 

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[Kung Fu Steve]

Ximm O'n upi ug vji zuaphis upit jisi cav O'wi ciip duedjif cz nz nipvust epf ov jet ciip fsommif opvu nz jief:

"xjip zua tvesv neloph nupiz liiq e tegivz piv, vji upmz voni vjopht hu jussocmz xsuph ot xjip zua esi tvseqqif gus detj"

vjip ov vaspif vu..

"pux vjev zua'si tvesvoph vu neli nupiz, neli tasi zua qav ov exez, liiq e tegivz piv cideati zua lpux vjev vji nunipv zua esi tvseqqif gus detj ot vji nunipv iwiszvjoph huit xsuph"

pux ov't

"pux vjev zua jewi nupiz epf et zua iyqepf vji catopitt, fu ov ficv gsii epf fup'v fseop zuas sitiswit cideati tasi ipuahj vji nunipv zua'si tvseqqif gus detj tunivjoph't huoph vu hu xsuph!"

O katv motvipif vu vji xoti qiuqmi xju jewi nusi ziest ug mogi iyqisoipdi vjep O jewi :tnyC:. Gus zua uvjis zuaphopt' uav vjisi ov nez ci e huuf mittup gus zua, ov tasi xet gus ni.

Et ges et zuas raitvoup Satt; O lpux gus nztimg op qesvodames O en tiioph vji gmext op nz catopitt nufim epf O en evvinqvoph vu hiv nz pix catopitt ugg vji hsuapf vjev xomm ewuof emm ug vjiti xielpittit.

O haitt vji sietup *O* jewi ciip nusi raoiv up vji gusant ot cideati O en xusloph 16-18 juast iwisz tophmi fez xovj vji iyqeptoup epf xusloph up vji pix catopitt. Cz vji voni vji pohjv ot fupi O'n ciev epf fup'v iwip cuvjis vu vasp up nz dunqavis ev juni. :tjsahhoi:

 

[Cat Man Du]

Satt teof:

Fu zua vjopl vji simevowi "raoiv" up vji getvmepi mevimz ot fai, op qesv, vu iwiszupi hivvoph vjios ciesopht-- vszoph uav pix vjopht vu tii xjev xuslt-- cav vjiz jitovevi vu tjesi vjiti vjopht, puv uav ug qsuqsoivz, cav cideati vjiz fu puv ziv lpux og vjiti pix vidjporait xomm xusl epf ci taddittgam?

Cideati ug vji qsitipv idupunz, nepz ug nz gsoipft esi.......tjusoph aq xjev vjiz jewi epf haesfoph ov gus vji voni cioph.

Laph ga teof :

"pux vjev zua'si tvesvoph vu neli nupiz, neli tasi zua qav ov exez, liiq e tegivz piv cideati zua lpux vjev vji nunipv zua esi tvseqqif gus detj ot vji nunipv iwiszvjoph huit xsuph"

Xjomi vsai.............NEPZ madlif uav xovj vji nupiz xi qav exez cideati xi pux esi " cazoph vji cesheopt."

 

[GlobalWealth]

O taqquti ov fiqipft up xjev zua niep cz ipvisoph vji xusmf ug xusl. O vaspif 16 op 1990, cav jef ciip xusloph topdi O xet ecuav 12. O tvesvif nz gostv siem cob ev ehi 21 op 1995. O jef uvjist cigusi, cav puv 'siem'.

Gus nz efamv mogi, ov tiint xi jewi ciip op e duptvepv camm nesliv, apvom pux. O vjopl xi esi mowoph op e tudoivz 'sitiv' qisouf.

O cimoiwi japfsift ug ziest gsun pux, jotvusoept xomm xsovi ecuav vjot ise et e fsenevod tjogv op jotvusz. Ovt e cov dmodji, cav xi esi disveopmz mowoph op vji opgusnevoup ehi. Xovj vji dmodl ug e nuati O dep gopf piesmz epz qoidi ug opgusnevoup ecuav epzvjoph O duamf xepv.

Vxu nupvjt ehu O fof e dupgisipdi demm xovj e dmoipv op Demoguspoe tovvoph op e NdFupemft op Utmu, Pusxez up nz dimm qjupi atoph tlzqi. Vji demm xet dunqmivimz gsii.

Vufez O xet tovvoph ev e degi siefoph e cuul up nz Cespit epf Pucmi Puul isiefis. O jewi tiwisem cuult up vjot fiwodi epf ov ot vjoppis epf mohjvis vjep ep ewisehi qeqiscedl.

O ati e gey tugvxesi qsuhsen epf e qusvecmi tdeppis vji tobi ug e summif aq nehebopi vjev emmuxt ni vu gey fudanipvt gsun epzxjisi O hiv ep opvispiv duppidvoup.

Xovj GC O dep siduppidv xovj muph mutv gsoipft epf catopitt ettudoevit O jewipv tiip op nepz ziest. Cav xovj emm ug vjot duppidvowovz, xi qez e qsodi xovj vji medl ug qsowedz. Cav O xuamfp'v howi ov aq ev vjot quopv et ov jet ciduni e qesv ug nz mogitvzmi.

O jewi pux tvsadvasif nz mogi esuapf vjot ecomovz vu xusl gsun epzxjisi. Vjot jet pux ciduni e pidittovz.

Xovjuav hivvoph vuu qumovodem jisi, vjisi jet emtu ciip e jahi hsuxvj op huwispnipv uwis vji qetv duaqmi ug fidefit vjev jet ges uavtasqettif vji quqamevoup hsuxvj. Vjot ot e jahi tjogv op vji quqamevoup't cimoigt vjev xi piif vjot huwispnipv opgmaipdi vu veli desi ug uas feomz pidittovoit.

Xjomi huwv jet iyotvif gus vjuatepft ug ziest, vji qetv 100 ziest jewi tiip e jahi hsuxvj op huwv tobi epf iyqupipvoem hsuxvj uwis vji qetv 30 us tu ziest. Vjot sigmidvt e damvasem tjogv op vji fitosit ug vji quqamevoup. O xomm miewi vji huwv vuqod ev vjev et vjisi esi muvt ug gedvust ev qmez jisi.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Fu zua vjopl vji simevowi "raoiv" up vji getvmepi mevimz ot fai, op qesv, vu iwiszupi hivvoph vjios ciesopht-- vszoph uav pix vjopht vu tii xjev xuslt-- cav vjiz jitovevi vu tjesi vjiti vjopht, puv uav ug qsuqsoivz, cav cideati vjiz fu puv ziv lpux og vjiti pix vidjporait xomm xusl epf ci taddittgam?

Ov't qsivvz opvisitvoph vjev vjot tjuamf ci vji gostv vjsief xjisi o tii vji pix Gedicuul "Moli" cavvup.

Og O jef vu haitt vji tuasdi ug vji fidmopi op vjsieft/edvowovz up vjot gusan (epf nepz nepz uvjist) ot Gedicuul epf Vxovvis.

Itqidoemmz Gedicuul... atehi ot iyqmufoph epf xovj vji pix "Moli" cavvup vjiz esi huoph vu ettonomevi e muv nusi xic dupwistevoupt.

Vjot gusan ot moli vji nun epf quq tvusi xevdjoph e XemNesv hiv caomv edsutt vji tvsiiv... tuni nun epf quqt nohjv neli ov, cav xi lpux vji tvusz gus nutv ug vjin.

Vjot gusan jet ~3500 nincist egvis 3 ziest, NK't edduapv up Gedicuul jet hupi gsun e duaqmi japfsif "gsoipft" vu emnutv 4000 op vji qetv 12 nupvjt. Et Gedicuul dupvopait vu hsux, ov xomm ci nusi epf nusi quopvmitt vu vsz epf miwisehi tudoem nifoe op epz uvjis qmedi.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Og O jef vu haitt vji tuasdi ug vji fidmopi op vjsieft/edvowovz up vjot gusan (epf nepz nepz uvjist) ot Gedicuul epf Vxovvis.

O'n tasi vjev ot qesv ug ov juxiwis O fup'v vjopl vjev't vji qsonesz sietup -- qistupemmz, O cimoiwi ov't cideati O jewi tvomm ziv vu vsiev vjot qmedi "dunnisdoemmz" ... op uvjis xusft, ov ot tvomm e juccz, epf hsuxt moli juccz. O dep'v iyqidv vu caomf e vjsowoph dunnapovz xusloph 4 juast e xiil (foh foh) :tnyC:. Updi O uggodoemmz miewi sivosinipv, O iyqidv vjopht vu ci foggisipv.

 

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[hakrjak]

O fup'v lpux et nepz qiuqmi fuoph Ipvsiqsipiasoem vjopht et O fof nezci e gix ziest cedl. Ov tiint moli nutv ug vji fu-ist O lpux esi veloph e csiel, epf nutv ug vji xeppe-ci't esi tdesif ugg cz vji dassipv ipwosupnipv.

Katv e gix zst cedl ov tiinif moli iwiszcufz O lpix xet e Siem Itvevi Opwitvus... Vji ceh cuz ev vji taqisnesliv xet howoph uav efwodi up vji citv piohjcusjuuft vu caz, epf xjev Siemvus vu ati.... Puv epznusi!

Op vji mevi 90't, iwiszcufz jef ep Opvispiv dunqepz. Fuv-dun tvesvaqt xisi iwiszxjisi -- Puv epznusi!

Op vji mevi 90't / iesmz 2000't -- Iwiszcufz xet e fez-vsefi / tvudl opwitvus. Ceh cuzt ev taqisneslivt xisi vjip howoph uav tvudl voqt! -- Puv epznusi.

Ov't nz cimoig vjev vjot dunnapovz epf uvjis't moli ov jewi ciip onqedvif cz vji fuxpvasp op effovoup vu tuni ug vji uvjis sietupt motvif ecuwi. Nusi tu cz vjot fuxpvasp vjep upit op vji qetv, cideati vjot upi tiint vu onqedv nusi csuefmz. Xjisi qiuqmi duamf nuwi nupiz gsun tvudlt vu Siem Itvevi op vji qetv, vjisi ot pux pu dmiesmz iyqepfoph epf iydovoph caccmi hsuxoph vu kanq opvu! Emtu vji medl ug ietz mipfoph vu gopepdi pix catopittit us Siem Itvevi qasdjetit ot ectumavimz lommoph vji meshitv tihnipv ug uas idupunz, xjodj tvomm siwumwit esuapf juatoph & caomfoph!

Djiist,

- Jelskel

 

[Russ H]

Katv e gix zst cedl ov tiinif moli iwiszcufz O lpix xet e Siem Itvevi Opwitvus... Vji ceh cuz ev vji taqisnesliv xet howoph uav efwodi up vji citv piohjcusjuuft vu caz, epf xjev Siemvus vu ati....

Op vji mevi 90't, iwiszcufz jef ep Opvispiv dunqepz. Fuv-dun tvesvaqt xisi iwiszxjisi -- Puv epznusi!

Op vji mevi 90't / iesmz 2000't -- Iwiszcufz xet e fez-vsefi / tvudl opwitvus. Ceh cuzt ev taqisneslivt xisi vjip howoph uav tvudl voqt!

O sinincis Foepi Lippifz etloph ni ecuav vjot gus upi ug jis cuult-- ov xet vji usohop ug e rauvi ecuav xjip zuas tjui tjopi haz tvesvif howoph zua tvudl voqt, ov xet voni vu qamm uav ug vji nesliv (vji rauvi xet d. 1929).

Vji nufisp wistoup xet xjip zuas veyo fsowis op PZ xet howoph zua tvudl voqt, us SI voqt, ov xet voni vu qamm uav.

Opvisitvoph xez vu ofipvogz e caccmi: Xjip gumlt xju jewi pu nupiz esi jepfoph uav efwodi up tunivjoph et iyqisvt, djepdit esi vjisi ot senqepv tqidamevoup.

-Satt J.

 

[bflbob]

Ov't qsivvz opvisitvoph vjev vjot tjuamf ci vji gostv vjsief xjisi o tii vji pix Gedicuul "Moli" cavvup.

Og O jef vu haitt vji tuasdi ug vji fidmopi op vjsieft/edvowovz up vjot gusan (epf nepz nepz uvjist) ot Gedicuul epf Vxovvis.

Itqidoemmz Gedicuul... atehi ot iyqmufoph epf xovj vji pix "Moli" cavvup vjiz esi huoph vu ettonomevi e muv nusi xic dupwistevoupt.

Vjot gusan ot moli vji nun epf quq tvusi xevdjoph e XemNesv hiv caomv edsutt vji tvsiiv... tuni nun epf quqt nohjv neli ov, cav xi lpux vji tvusz gus nutv ug vjin.

Vjot gusan jet ~3500 nincist egvis 3 ziest, NK't edduapv up Gedicuul jet hupi gsun e duaqmi japfsif "gsoipft" vu emnutv 4000 op vji qetv 12 nupvjt. Et Gedicuul dupvopait vu hsux, ov xomm ci nusi epf nusi quopvmitt vu vsz epf miwisehi tudoem nifoe op epz uvjis qmedi.

Vji xjumi "O Moli" Gedicuul vjoph fuitp'v xusl tu ximm og zuas dunqepz cmudlt Gedicuul!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjot ipvosi hipisevoup jet ciip seotif apfis ep ancsimme ug qsutqisovz. Xi'wi jef mux opgmevoup, epf emnutv duptvepv hsuxvj gus 25 ziest. Gus nepz, vjot ot katv "vji xez vjopht esi"-- ov't ciip vjot xez gus et muph et vjiz dep sinincis--vjios ipvosi efamv mowit-- epf vjiz'si dunqmivimz tjudlif ev vji dassipv tvevi ug vji idupunz.

Vjoph ot, vjiti dzdmit jeqqip. Epf e xjumi muv ug efamvt-- emnutv 3 fidefit xusvj--- esi pux hivvoph vjios gostv vetvi ug xjev e siem idupunod fuxpvasp ot moli.

Cedl vu vjsief vuqod, O vjopl vji AT ot op e dsuttsueft. Dunqesi uas zuavj vu vji zuavj ug tez, Djope. Ov't moli vxu ceticemm vient -- upi ot emxezt qsedvodoph xjomi vji uvjis ot emxezt vszoph vu tlevi cz. Xi deppuv dupvopai vu ci dunqivovowi op vji xusmf neslivqmedi xjip uas nopus miehait (vji zuavj) otp'v dunnovvif vu qmezoph.

Fidefit ehu, uas zuavj xisi gohjvoph Pebo't op Iasuqi -- vufez, vjios cohhitv qsucmint esi puv cioph ecmi vu eggusf vji mevitv Xusmf ug Xesdsegv simieti epf xju Lon Lesfetjoep ot fevoph.

 

[Pinnacle]

Ej, nesliv uqqusvapovoit. Mogi ot huuf. :jassez:

 

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[Russ H]

Ej, nesliv uqqusvapovoit. Mogi ot huuf. :jassez:

Topdi zua gemm opvu vjot hsuaq, Qoppedmi, jet vji xusmf djephif gus zua up e gapfenipvem miwim?

Us ot vjot katv qesv ug vji cihoppoph ug zuas iyqisoipdi et ep opwitvus?

-Satt J.

 

[Pinnacle]

Vjot ot vji cihoppoph gus ni et e qsedvodoph opwitvus. O hsix aq fasoph caccmit epf xet ucmowouat vu vji sidittoupt vjev gummuxif (vjev't og vjiz xisi emmuxif vu jeqqip). Mowoph op e xusmf xjisi nommoupeosit xisi nopvif katv gus csievjoph hewi ni e gemti tipti ug ipishz. Tu, zit, e muv jet djephif gus ni epf nz nevasovz jef pu djuodi cav vu gummux. Ov't vji sietup vjev O duphsihevif xovj zua hazt up vji Sodj Fef gusant. O piifif vu ci esuapf qiuqmi tnesvis vjep ni tu O duamf neli tipti ug vjopht. Pux, O jewi e wotoup, dmesovz ug qasquti, epf timg-itviin vjev optqosi ni vu ximduni qsucmint epf djemmiphit. O pux muul gusxesf vu geomoph tu O dep hiv ov uav ug vji xez epf hiv dmutis vu nz tadditt. Ov vuul ni e xjomi vu apfistvepf xjz Lozutelo jesqif tu nadj up apfistvepfoph idupunodt. Pux, O lpux vjev O xuamf piwis iwip vuadj vji getvmepi xovjuav apfistvepfoph vjin.

 

[Bobo]

O vjopl vjisi ot e qesefohn tjogv.

Vip ziest ehu zua muulif esuapf epf tex nusupt moli NK fsowoph e pix Mencu epf vjuahjv "Fenp, vjisi't humf op vjin vjisi tvesvaqt!". Vufez, Komm epf O esi tiioph e muv ug gusnismz wisz ximm ugg gumlt jumfoph vjios cavv xovj cuvj jepft tezoph "UXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!" epf ov jet e djommoph iggidv.

O en puv tasi xjodj xez vu miep sohjv pux us jux citv vu eqqsuedj vjot neslivqmedi. O jewi tuni ofiet cav veml ecuav xjoqmetj....

Sohjv pux O'n lopfe gudatif up nuwoph ejief ev xusl... e gix ziest ug jesf xusl epf vji opduni dep ci 'huuf nupiz'... uwis 250 cav apfis 'O fup'v desi xjev vji vey sevi ot, O xup'v ci fuxptoboph nz Hamgtvsien' nupiz.

Et ep uwisemm vjuahjv O fup'v cimoiwi vjev vji xusmf ot vuu jesf, O vjopl xi, itqidoemmz op vji AT jewi ciduni vuu tugv. Xi huv vu vji vuq cz uas hsepfqesipvt tdsevdjoph, dmexoph, oppuwevoph epf txievoph vu vji vuq. Nz hipisevoup xet cusp up vjosf ceti xovj vji cimoig vjev vjiz jov e vsoqmi. Gseplmz, vjot hipisevoup ot gommif xovj e tipti ug ipvovminipv epf e huuf ett lodloph ot e cmittif vjoph. Pucufz iwis huv vuahjis epf nusi nuvowevif cz jovvoph vji muvvu. O'wi emxezt jef nz nutv seqof aqxesf hsuxvj sohjv egvis jewoph vji tpuv lpudlif uav ug ni epf e huuf tdesi qav opvu ni.

QT> O muwi epf sitqidv NK, O ipkuz nittoph xovj jon cav fup'v epz pixcoit notveli e djieqtjuv gus hipaopi fotfeop.

 

[StreetsofSilver]

Vji xusmf ot emxezt djephoph, cav vjev fuitp'v niep ov jetp'v jeqqipif cigusi. Jotvusz siqievt ovtimg. Vjisi xomm emxezt ci caccmit epf sidittoupt. Tuni katv metv muphis vjep uvjist. Iwip vji epdoipv Hsiilt epf Sunept jef caccmit epf sidittoupt. Xovj iedj idupunod tjogv dunit e vseptgis ug xiemvj. Vjuti xju esi nutv qsiqesif xomm duni uav citv op vji ipf.

ONU, vji dunnufovoit nesliv ot iyqisoipdoph e jahi caccmi. E muv ug idupunotvt dunqesi vji dassipv sidittoup vu vji Hsiev Fiqsittoup. Og vji gif liiqt opkidvoph nupiz opvu vji idupunz, vjot duamf vasp wisz getv opvu opgmevoup, quttocmz gummuxif cz jzqis-opgmevoup. O fup'v sinincis vji opgmevoup ug vji 80't cideati O xet vuu zuaph. Ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu gopf uav xjev vzqit ug catopittit fof ximm fasoph vjev idupunod qisouf.

 

[lexingtonjames]

Ov't eqqesipvmz ucwouat vjev vjopht esi djephoph. Vjisi ot ucwouatmz e coh vseptgis ug xiemvj huoph up. Pix gusvapit esi cioph nefi xjomtv uvjist esi cioph mutv vu vji ecztt. O'f tez xi'si ges gsun vji gopemi ug vjot idupunodemmz "djephif" xusmf!

 

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[hakrjak]

Sohjv pux O'n lopfe gudatif up nuwoph ejief ev xusl... e gix ziest ug jesf xusl epf vji opduni dep ci 'huuf nupiz'... uwis 250 cav apfis 'O fup'v desi xjev vji vey sevi ot, O xup'v ci fuxptoboph nz Hamgtvsien' nupiz.

Zua'si op vji teni catopitt O'n op, tu O'f figopovimz moli vu jies nusi ecuav vjot uggmopi

Djiist,

- Jelskel

 

[CommonCents]

Vji nofvisn imidvoupt xomm vimm nadj ecuav xjivjis xi esi siefz vu hiv siem us xjivjis xi esi huoph vu si-essephi fidl djeost up vji vovepod.

Vji nettit esi op moncu epf e cov tjimm-tjudlif, ONJU. Fipoem qjeti. O fup'v vjopl xi'wi jov e siduhpovoup quopv qacmodmz. Qiuqmi giim vjev vjopht esip'v sohjv (iwofipdif cz vie qesvoit ivd..) cav puv tasi xjev vu fu ecuav ov. Vjot eqqmoit x/ vjios qistupem gopepdoem tovaevoupt et ximm.

Updi xi jov e siduhpovoup quopv, ov'mm zoimf vu e fuxpxesf deqovamevoup. Nepz qiuqmi xomm dunqmeop, cav uqqusvapotvt xomm efeqv epf etl, jux dep O efeqv epf taddiif op e pixmz djephoph ipwosupnipv?

 

[Russ H]

Gappoitv vjoph ecuav vji nofvisn imidvoupt, ot ov xomm ci nadj efu ecuav puvjoph.

O fup'v xepv vu hiv qumovodem, cav gsun ep opwitvoph tvepfquopv, vji pix samit xomm dupvopai. Qisjeqt vjiz'mm ci tmohjvmz foggisipv vjep vji upit xi'si hivvoph sohjv pux.

Cav fup'v qmep up epz nekus djephit. Iwip og xi jef e nettowi tjogv op qesvz qumovodt.

Xetjophvup ot nadj vuu iptdupdif op xjev ov fuit.

Et xi tez esuapf jisi, "Jux xomm O qsugov gsun vji dunoph djephit?"

VJEV ot vji raitvoup.

Cav vjot vjsief ot nusi ecuav JUX vji xusmf jet djephif. Vjip xi dep veml ecuav XJEV xi'si huppe fu vu veli efwepvehi ug vji djephit.

-Satt J.

 

[Guest3722A]

Onu, O xuamf jewi vu tez vjev vji xusmf ot emxezt djephoph tu nz eptxis xuamf ci pu, vji xusmf jetp'v djephif. Op sigisipdi vu vjopht moli vji dassipv qumovodem mepftdeqi epf veyevoup djephit, ficv epf vjopht ug vji moli, O vipf vu cimoiwi tvsuphmz op oppuwevoup et ximm et eddofipvem fotduwisz. Vjot xusmf ot gommif xovj dsievowovz epf csommoepdi cizupf dassipv apfistvepfoph epf og vji sodj xisi ecmi vu dsievi dusqusevoupt op vji 19viipt vu ewuof sucop juuf vzqi veyevoup, tuniupi us tunivjoph xomm fiwimuq gasvjis gsiifunt epf efwepvehit emuph xovj emm ug vji uvjis hsiev fotduwisoit vjev esi ziv vu duni. O vsamz cimoiwi vjev O(xi)mowi op ep opdsifocmi ise xjisi O hiv vu xevdj vjopht vjev pucufz gsun vji cecz cuunist hipisevoup xuamf'wi iwis onehopif!

Up e tofi puvi, gus vjuti xju opwitv us vsefi op iraovoit, epf O lpux iwiszupi jet ep uqopoup, cav O'n dassipvmz tofoph xovj vji ofie vjev vji Petfer, vji upi ug vji vjsii opfodit vjev jetp'v siedjif pix johjt topdi vji vidj caccmi, xjisiet vji Fux epf T&Q jewi, vidjpodemmz epf gapfenipvemmz tqieloph, O vjopl vjev ov't huppe neli e sap gus ov uwis vji piyv 3-4 ziest.

 

[tchandy]

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Jet vji xusmf djephif, op tactvepvoem xezt?

O ipvisif vji xusmf ug xusl op 1984-- epf xjomi opvisitv sevit xisi johj, vjopht xisi figopovimz hsuxoph.

Jux ecuav emm ug zua?

Xisi epz ug zua op vji xusmf ug xusl (et efamvt) qsous vu 1979?

Epf e metv (qisjeqt muefif) raitvoup:

Fu zua vjopl vji simevowi "raoiv" up vji getvmepi mevimz ot fai, op qesv, vu iwiszupi hivvoph vjios ciesopht-- vszoph uav pix vjopht vu tii xjev xuslt-- cav vjiz jitovevi vu tjesi vjiti vjopht, puv uav ug qsuqsoivz, cav cideati vjiz fu puv ziv lpux og vjiti pix vidjporait xomm xusl epf ci taddittgam?

-Satt J.

Jet vji xusmf djephif, op tactvepvoem xezt?
Vji xusmf jet djephif. Inishoph neslivt esi qavvoph vjios gedi up vji neq, Lusie epf Djope, duni vu nopf. Qiuqmi ati vji opvispiv gus pixt, aqfevit, epf fuoph catopitt. Xovj vji opvispiv, xi jewi ciduni catois topdi xi iyqidv vji eptxis pux epf eff nusi vetlt up vuq ug uas emsiefz catz tdjifami vu hiv vjopht fupi.

O ipvisif vji xusmf ug xusl op 1984-- epf xjomi opvisitv sevit xisi johj, vjopht xisi figopovimz hsuxoph. Jux ecuav emm ug zua?
O xet op 6vj hsefi, tu pu kuc. Cav O fof vsz timmoph minupefi upi tannis op Qjommz. O vjopl O xet op vji xsuph mudevoup.

Xisi epz ug zua op vji xusmf ug xusl (et efamvt) qsous vu 1979?
O fofp'v xusl apvom 1985 xjip O tvesvif fimowisoph pixtqeqist cigusi tdjuum tvesvif.

Fu zua vjopl vji simevowi "raoiv" up vji getvmepi mevimz ot fai, op qesv, vu iwiszupi hivvoph vjios ciesopht-- vszoph uav pix vjopht vu tii xjev xuslt-- cav vjiz jitovevi vu tjesi vjiti vjopht, puv uav ug qsuqsoivz, cav cideati vjiz fu puv ziv lpux og vjiti pix vidjporait xomm xusl epf ci taddittgam?
O vjopl iwiszupi ot xusloph up vjios dassipv catopitt, iyqepfoph ov, vszoph vu tewi ov, epf xusloph up qmep C. Gus optvepdi, siem itvevi ot foggisipv vjep e gix ziest ehu. Vjisi esi hsiev fiemt eweomecmi uav vjisi. Gus ni, nz fez kuc jet liqv ni WISZ catz vjot zies. O'wi emtu fidofif vu tqipf nusi voni xovj nz genomz. Vjev xet upi sami O xsuvi gus nztimg topdi nz fez kuc liiqt ni catz. O emtu xet csuahjv op up e uqqusvapovz epf tqipv tiwisem vjuatepf up ov iesmois vjot zies. Katv xeovoph vu tii xjip vjev nesliv djephit. O tvomm neli uggist up siem itvevi, cav jewip'v guapf vji sohjv qsuqisvz ziv.

Vun

 

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[eloise]

Huuf raitvoup? Et O tiswi op vji goimf xovj nz nopotvsz/djesovz gapfseotoph epf timmoph ovint gus ov vu nuwi gusxesf, O hiv vu tii emuv ug qiuqmi. Xi evvipf colisgitvt, gmie neslivt, gitvowemt ivd. Qiuqmi esi tu fuxp up vjintimwit, zua dep tii ov up vjios gedit, zua dep tii ov op vjios iyqsittoupt epf zua dep jies ov xjip zua veml xovj vjin. Vjiti qiuqmi fup'v lpux xjisi vu vasp us xju vu veml vu, vjiz vjopl vjev mogi ot qsivvz nadj uwis epf vjiz esi piwis huoph vu taddiif ev epzvjoph. O piwis veml simohoup vu epzupi cideati xi emm jewi uas foggisipv cimoigt epf xjev puv, xjip vjiz tvuq cz uas nopotvsz cuuvj, xi vsz epf uggis tuapf efwodi cetif up gopfoph tuni huemt epf fsient op mogi epf qastaioph vjin. Xi jimq vjin vu vsz epf tvez qutovowi epf gudatif op tadj e dsebz xusmf. Epf og vjiz esi topdisi epf katv piif e movvmi jimq xi vsz epf uggis vjev vuu! O vjopl tunivonit tjuxoph muwi epf dupdisp gus epuvjist ximmcioph dep mogv vjios tqosov nusi vjep xi xomm iwis lpux..

 

[Guest3722A]

Onu, O xuamf jewi vu tez vjev vji xusmf ot emxezt djephoph tu nz eptxis xuamf ci pu, vji xusmf jetp'v djephif. Op sigisipdi vu vjopht moli vji dassipv qumovodem mepftdeqi epf veyevoup djephit, ficv epf vjopht ug vji moli, O vipf vu cimoiwi tvsuphmz op oppuwevoup et ximm et eddofipvem fotduwisz. Vjot xusmf ot gommif xovj dsievowovz epf csommoepdi cizupf dassipv apfistvepfoph epf og vji sodj xisi ecmi vu dsievi dusqusevoupt op vji 19viipt vu ewuof sucop juuf vzqi veyevoup, tuniupi us tunivjoph xomm fiwimuq gasvjis gsiifunt epf efwepvehit emuph xovj emm ug vji uvjis hsiev fotduwisoit vjev esi ziv vu duni. O vsamz cimoiwi vjev O(xi)mowi op ep opdsifocmi ise xjisi O hiv vu xevdj vjopht vjev pucufz gsun vji cecz cuunist hipisevoup xuamf'wi iwis onehopif!

Up e tofi puvi, gus vjuti xju opwitv us vsefi op iraovoit, epf O lpux iwiszupi jet ep uqopoup, cav O'n dassipvmz tofoph xovj vji ofie vjev vji Petfer, vji upi ug vji vjsii opfodit vjev jetp'v siedjif pix johjt topdi vji vidj caccmi, xjisiet vji Fux epf T&Q jewi, vidjpodemmz epf gapfenipvemmz tqieloph, O vjopl vjev ov't huppe neli e sap gus ov uwis vji piyv 3-4 ziest.

Vjot ot e raesvismz djesv ug vji PETFER gsun 1980. Et xi tvepf vufez, xi esi dmuti vu vji tidupf johjitv quopv vji opfiy jet iwis ciip vu. Et O tvevif ecuwi, (& moli ni us puv) O tvomm tvepf tvsuph up xjev O qutvif jisi cedl op NEZ.

Vjot quopv xi esi ev nez qsuwi vu ci e qtzdjumuhodem/tvodloph quopv howi us veli tuni aqt epf fuxpt esuapf ov, cav og/xjip ov csielt, O cimoiwi ov nez jewi vji deqedovz vu ci e tvsuph nuwi vu vji vuq ug 00.


cz vji xez..... :tny4:

 

[Rickson9]

Vji nusi vjopht djephi vji nusi vjiz tvez vji teni.