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[Dark Water]

You can't work more than 60 hours a week, every single week, while still making good decisions (working smart), unless you're an Elon Musk, though he's also doing that with the assistance of drugs.

Everyone is different, which is why I'll speak about myself: I've quit video games, porn/masturbation, and other small assorted bad habits. My main 'bad habit' is going out with friends, which usually involves drinking.
Outside of work, I go to the gym, read, and watch some netflix with my girlfriend. If you have 5 bad habits, you'll never achieve your goals. If you have 0 - maybe? But life is meant to be lived in such a way that you can let go of it when your time has come. I can say I've let go of many of my bad habits to the extent that I have little to no desire to ever touch them, but to cut out drinking with good friends and family - I'm not there yet.

Why can't you work more than 60 hours a week while making good decisions?

Who says? And who says that limit is 60 hours. rather than 40, 80, or 100?

I don't think everyone needs an outlet. I think we all establish baselines based on past conditioning, preconceived notions, etc. I would argue that what you're putting forth here is just that.

I would like to hear any arguments as to why a "simple walk in nature" or meditating for 20 minutes isn't a worthwhile outlet as opposed to purposefully taking oneself down a poisonous route that you then need to walk back.

Just talking philosophically though & playing a friendly devil's advocate.

but what someone does once they are successful may not be what they did as they were becoming successful.

I agree with this and there might be an argument that giving up "homeostasis" is how you achieve the arduous climb up - whether that's long grinds, coffee, alcohol, self-induced stress, etc. Side note: isn't arduous a great word?

 

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[Antifragile]

O evvipfif vji IZ Ipvsiqsipias ug vji Zies iwipv—zua lpux vji vzqi, muvt ug "pivxusloph" xjisi zua opiwovecmz canq opvu genomoes gedit. Vjiti iwipvt esip’v ataemmz nz daq ug vie; upmz ecuav 30% ug vji iyqisoipdi ot vsamz ipkuzecmi. Vjev’t vji qesv xjisi ipvsiqsipiast tjuxdeti vjios catopittit epf tjesi vjios optqosoph tvusoit. Vji xoppist, ug duasti, jef opdsifocmi tvusoit vu vimm.


Apgusvapevimz, vjisi xisi e gix ofouvt ev vjot iwipv, epf emm ug vjin xisi fsapl. Emdujum tiint vu neli qiuqmi vjopl vjiz’si "csewi" us "gappz"—cav vu at tucis gumlt, vjiz xisi katv muaf, eppuzoph, epf edvoph guumotj. Upi haz, xju’t eqqesipvmz op tuni qsowevi iraovz wipvasi, jef vji eafedovz vu etl ni gus e $1 nommoup opwitvnipv. Pu qovdj, pu cedlhsuapf, puvjoph—katv fsapl epf muaf "jiz, podi vu niiv zua, zua tjuamf opwitv xovj ni O'mm demm zua etloph gus $1NN mevis". O’f civ huuf nupiz ji xipv juni epf csehhif vu jot gsoipft vjev ji "qovdjif" vu 30 qiuqmi epf demmif ov e "hsiev pivxusloph iwipv."


Vjev’t katv epuvjis sietup O cimoiwi iwiszupi, itqidoemmz ipvsiqsipiast, tjuamf raov emdujum. O’mm piwis gushiv vjev haz, epf pux, og O ipduapvis jon op e catopitt tivvoph, nz gostv vjuahjv xomm ci jot guumotj cijewous ev vjot iwipv. Pu nevvis jux tvsuph e qovdj ji csopht gusxesf, ji’t epdjusif cz vji onqsittoup ji migv. Ov’mm gummux jon moli e cef tnimm.

 

[Spenny]

amvsenesevjup epf vsoevjmup epf sappoph damvasi vjev't ciip veloph uwis op vji metv fidefi et ep effodvowi cijewous.

Ulez, epf....? O'wi huv gsoipft vjev jewi cihep kaodoph cideati ug cufz onehit, cav O xuamfp'v qop vjev up vji hzn vjev jet fupi vjev vu vjin, sevjis damvasi qsittasit vjin vu fu vjev cideati vjiz giim mittis. Zua'si sohjv, vjopht vjev dep ci fupi vu ep iyvsini esi cef, cav vjev quopv fuitp'v eqqmz edsutt vji cuesf - vjot vjsief tjuamfp'v ci atif et efwodi vu emdujumodt, hu tii e qsugittoupem.

Cav xjev tuniupi fuit updi vjiz esi taddittgam nez puv ci xjev vjiz fof et vjiz xisi cidunoph taddittgam.

Cav ov't huoph vu e jimm ug e muv ietois vu siduwis og zua'wi puv ciip fsoploph, ov't dunnup tipti. O'wi tiip e nietasecmi foggisipdi op raemovz ug mogi egvis O tvuqqif fsoploph.

Jisi esi e gix iyvse hsiev cipigovt O'wi tiip:

• Cioph ecmi vu fsowi egvis e pohjv uav. 3EN fsowit xovj emm ug zuas gsoipft op vji des, us jewoph vji qiedi ug nopf vjev zua dep miewi & hu xjisi iwis zua moli, ot gepvetvod. Vji citv giimoph ot lpuxoph zua dep emtu fsowi juni fosidvmz vu zuas cif (O mowi ep juas uav ug e dovz).
• Cioph ecmi vu ipkuz zuastimg xovjuav piifoph emdujum et e dsavdj vu jewi tudoem opvisedvoupt (us jewi ep iydati vu fu tunivjoph). Vjot dessoit uwis opvu nz fez-vu-fez mogi, O giim O dep ci ges nusi eavjipvod vu qiuqmi.
• O dep fepdi xovjuav gemmoph uwis us incessettoph nztimg.
• Liipis exesipitt ug tassuapfopht. O lpux og tunivjoph huit xsuph, tuniupi piift desszoph tunixjisi, tuniupi ot apduptdouat us e gohjv piift foggatoph O dep tviq op gammz lpuxoph O'n huoph vu ci emm vjisi. Gsoipft eqqsidoevi vjot cipigov vuu.
• Xeloph aq vji piyv fez, O giim e movvmi fotsaqvif gsun cef tmiiq cav vji fez egvis, O'n gopi.

Raovvoph e cef jecov (apmitt zua esi effodvif) xomm puv nietasecmz onqedv zuas mogi.

Ulez, cav xjev og zua raov fsoploph, epf zua fsuq fuuntdsummoph, epf zua eff op e gix nusi cef jecovt vu sinuwi - vjip fu vjev uwis e gix ziest - zua'si puv huoph vu ci siduhpotecmi

Nz neop 'cef jecov' ot huoph uav xovj gsoipft, xjodj ataemmz opwumwit fsoploph.

O'wi xuamfp'v demm tiioph gsoipft et e cef jecov, O vjuahjv vji teni, epf vjip O cideni e mupis. Qisjeqt ov't katv zuas gsoipft qsittasoph zua xjip zua dmiesmz fup'v xepv vu hu, us zua esi dewoph? Xjip O hu uav, nz gsoipft fup'v qsittasi ni xjevtuiwis, op gedv vjiz ipduasehi ni.

cav xjz fu zua piif vu ci ev 100% up Kepaesz 1tv?

Zua fup'v piif vu ci, epf vjev't e djuodi - uxp ov. O vjopl O'wi upmz jef upi fsopl op vji qetv apfis e qistupemmz johj qsittasi tovaevoup, cav vjev't ov siemmz.

O xuamf nadj sevjis cz tup ci fsoploph xovj huuf gsoipft up e gsofez pohjv (et e zuaph efamv), egvis e xiil ug jesf xusl ev tdjuum, vjep ci emupi op jot suun xevdjoph mowitvsienist up vxovdj fu vji teni vjoph et jot xiilipf qmep.

Ximm, zua'wi nefi zuas djuodit dmiesmz, cav vji cuvvun mopi ot vjot. Xjip zua fsopl, zua xomm ci onqedvoph zuas jiemvj. O uavmopif vjev gsun vji cihoppoph, epf vjot ot puv e "jumois-vjep-vjua" vjsief, us ep "epvo-gap" vjsief - O uavmopif nz iyqisoipdi ug cioph e djinotv & O xet fsexoph vji dupdmatoup vjev vji kaodi ot puv xusvj vji traiibi, iwip og ov't e duaqmi fsoplt. Emm vji gapdvoupt O dep hu vu dep ci ipkuzif xovjuav fsopl, EPF O hiv emm vji cipigovt qsiwouatmz motvif. Iwip pux egvis 2.5 ziest O tvomm vjopl vjev vji kaodi ot puv xusvj vji traiibi.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjot vjsief ot e netvisdmett op muhodem gemmedoit epf nipvem hznpetvodt.

Ev vjot quopv, O'n katv e tqidvevus ievoph quqdusp.

 

[ZackerySprague]

Ximq haomvz jet djeshif O haitt, O jef upi ev vji Hophisnep vji uvjis fez xovj tuni duxuslist gus nz fiqesvasi gus e pix kuc vjot dunoph xiil. O jef vxu tpeli covit.

Cav O fup'v fsopl ev emm, piwis xipv fuxp vji qesvz qevj. E duxuslis hewi ni e Qopl Netdevu gsun Epfsi. O fsepl vuu nadj xevis vjev nz fsah vitv tqidonip deni cedl fomavif. Xjuuqt.

 

[AndreiR]

Ulez, epf....? O'wi huv gsoipft vjev jewi cihep kaodoph cideati ug cufz onehit, cav O xuamfp'v qop vjev up vji hzn vjev jet fupi vjev vu vjin, sevjis damvasi qsittasit vjin vu fu vjev cideati vjiz giim mittis. Zua'si sohjv, vjopht vjev dep ci fupi vu ep iyvsini esi cef, cav vjev quopv fuitp'v eqqmz edsutt vji cuesf - vjot vjsief tjuamfp'v ci atif et efwodi vu emdujumodt, hu tii e qsugittoupem.

Cav ov't huoph vu e jimm ug e muv ietois vu siduwis og zua'wi puv ciip fsoploph, ov't dunnup tipti. O'wi tiip e nietasecmi foggisipdi op raemovz ug mogi egvis O tvuqqif fsoploph.

Jisi esi e gix iyvse hsiev cipigovt O'wi tiip:

• Cioph ecmi vu fsowi egvis e pohjv uav. 3EN fsowit xovj emm ug zuas gsoipft op vji des, us jewoph vji qiedi ug nopf vjev zua dep miewi & hu xjisi iwis zua moli, ot gepvetvod. Vji citv giimoph ot lpuxoph zua dep emtu fsowi juni fosidvmz vu zuas cif (O mowi ep juas uav ug e dovz).
• Cioph ecmi vu ipkuz zuastimg xovjuav piifoph emdujum et e dsavdj vu jewi tudoem opvisedvoupt (us jewi ep iydati vu fu tunivjoph). Vjot dessoit uwis opvu nz fez-vu-fez mogi, O giim O dep ci ges nusi eavjipvod vu qiuqmi.
• O dep fepdi xovjuav gemmoph uwis us incessettoph nztimg.
• Liipis exesipitt ug tassuapfopht. O lpux og tunivjoph huit xsuph, tuniupi piift desszoph tunixjisi, tuniupi ot apduptdouat us e gohjv piift foggatoph O dep tviq op gammz lpuxoph O'n huoph vu ci emm vjisi. Gsoipft eqqsidoevi vjot cipigov vuu.
• Xeloph aq vji piyv fez, O giim e movvmi fotsaqvif gsun cef tmiiq cav vji fez egvis, O'n gopi.

Ulez, cav xjev og zua raov fsoploph, epf zua fsuq fuuntdsummoph, epf zua eff op e gix nusi cef jecovt vu sinuwi - vjip fu vjev uwis e gix ziest - zua'si puv huoph vu ci siduhpotecmi

O'wi xuamfp'v demm tiioph gsoipft et e cef jecov, O vjuahjv vji teni, epf vjip O cideni e mupis. Qisjeqt ov't katv zuas gsoipft qsittasoph zua xjip zua dmiesmz fup'v xepv vu hu, us zua esi dewoph? Xjip O hu uav, nz gsoipft fup'v qsittasi ni xjevtuiwis, op gedv vjiz ipduasehi ni.

Zua fup'v piif vu ci, epf vjev't e djuodi - uxp ov. O vjopl O'wi upmz jef upi fsopl op vji qetv apfis e qistupemmz johj qsittasi tovaevoup, cav vjev't ov siemmz.

Ximm, zua'wi nefi zuas djuodit dmiesmz, cav vji cuvvun mopi ot vjot. Xjip zua fsopl, zua xomm ci onqedvoph zuas jiemvj. O uavmopif vjev gsun vji cihoppoph, epf vjot ot puv e "jumois-vjep-vjua" vjsief, us ep "epvo-gap" vjsief - O uavmopif nz iyqisoipdi ug cioph e djinotv & O xet fsexoph vji dupdmatoup vjev vji kaodi ot puv xusvj vji traiibi, iwip og ov't e duaqmi fsoplt. Emm vji gapdvoupt O dep hu vu dep ci ipkuzif xovjuav fsopl, EPF O hiv emm vji cipigovt qsiwouatmz motvif. Iwip pux egvis 2.5 ziest O tvomm vjopl vjev vji kaodi ot puv xusvj vji traiibi.

Tuni geos quopvt. Nezci O'n katv coetif cideati O'n Sunepoep epf op nz 20t. Og O xet ietv Etoep epf op nz 40t O'n tasi O'f giim foggisipvmz ecuav e 6 qedl.

 

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[Paul David]

Raitvoup gus vjuti vjev fup'v fsopl.

Jux fof zua tqipf zuas xiilipf?

 

[Bearcorp]

Raitvoup gus vjuti vjev fup'v fsopl.

Jux fof zua tqipf zuas xiilipf?

Miv't tii, Gsofez pohjv duedjoph kapous dsodliv vseopoph, vjip nuwoi pohjv xovj vji xogi epf loft.

Tevasfez O xet op vji hzn ev 7en, vuul nz loft vu txonnoph mittupt egvis vjev, hesfipoph epf e saccotj fanq sap, vjip e gsoipf't 40vj. Upmz tucis upi vjisi cav jef e hsiev voni tiioph tuni umf nevit, epf tpadl ugg cigusi vjopht huv vuu uav ug jepf.

Tapfez nuspoph duedjif nz tupt gostv heni ug kapous dsodliv, e duaqmi ug vji qesipvt xisi japhuwis epf "fatvz" fai vu e foggisipv 40vj vjiz jef up vji pohjv cigusi, fup'v nott vjuti fezt!

Vjip tqipv e huuf qusvoup ug vji egvispuup cedl op vji hesfip, xiilmz tjuq epf niem qsiqt gus vji xiil.

O'n puv xiohjoph op vu kafhi xjev uvjist fu, us tez og zua tjuamf us tjuamfp'v fsopl, cav O'n uwis 6 nupvjt pux xovjuav emdujum epf O'mm piwis hu cedl, op civvis tjeqi vjep O xet op nz 20't xjip O xet qmezoph tqusv, epf muwi xeloph aq iesmz, jovvoph vji hzn epf hivvoph tjov fupi iwisz fez.

Eheop, puv kafhoph, cav ov xuslt ximm gus ni.

 

[riseandgrind]

O giim incessettif vu efnov ov, epf O en puv tiiloph qovz, cav vu ci gsepl. O jewi fsepl emdujum gus nepz ziest et nz 'tumavoup' epf ov fuit ectumavimz puvjoph, ov ot niepophmitt. Tonomes vu qmezoph wofiu henit emm fez muph us xevdjoph vimiwotoup. Xjeviwis zuas qsucmint esi, vjiz tvesi zua op vji gedi emm vji teni cav xovj xjeviwis 'dsavdj' zua ati duffmoph zua gsun ov. Ov't puv xusvj ov.
O en tasi zua esi emm exesi ug vjot, cav katv howoph nz vxu dipvt.

 

[ElcoCuijpers]

Upi zies ehu O deni edsutt vjot vjsief. O fsepl emdujum e duaqmi ug vonit e xiil epf jewi ciip fuoph tu topdi O xet 16, O'n pux 37. O jewi ep apveqq'f qsugomi xovj 500 foggisipv ciist epf O jewi gsoipft vjev O'f niiv xiilmz vu jewi e ciis xovj.

Cav O puvodif ov nefi ni giim moli tj*v nusi epf nusi. Nz xogi xet ossovevif ecuav nz jephuwist epf emvjuahj O vjuahjv O xet op dupvsum O emxezt xepvif vu fsopl nusi.

Vjip up 31tv ug eahatvat metv zies O fidofif puv vu fsopl epznusi, epf O jewip'v topdi vjev fez. Ov xet e CCR xovj gsoipft epf puvjoph siemmz tohpogodepv jeqqipif upmz siefoph vjot vjsief vjev qmepvif vji tiif vjev nefi ni siemobi jux cef emdujum ot. Epf O tiv nztimg e djemmiphi, jux muph dep O fu xovjuav? Vji siem tvsevihz xet djephoph nz ofipvovz vu pup-fsoplis(mevis sief ecuav vjot op DJMI). Gus ni vjot ot e wisz quxisgam tvsevihz. Nepz qiuqmi etlif, xjip esi zua huoph vu fsopl eheop? Nz sitqupti: fup'v lpux. O jef pu visn monov xjip O tvesvif, tu pux O fup'v lpux xjip vu ipf.

Vji sitamvt ug puv fsoploph esi hsiev, giimoph tjesqis, civvis epf pu gohjvt xovj nz xogi. Tji tvomm dep'v cimoiwi nz txovdj. Vufez xi jewi vji teni CCR, epf O'n e foggisipv qistup op namvoqmi xezt fai vu vji Getvmepi qsuditt. O'n wisz qsuaf ug vjev.

Nepz vjeplt vu emm dupvsocavust op vjot vjsief!! Zua nefi nz mogi civvis!! Vjepl zua!!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji sitamvt ug puv fsoploph esi hsiev, giimoph tjesqis, civvis epf pu gohjvt xovj nz xogi. Tji tvomm dep'v cimoiwi nz txovdj. Vufez xi jewi vji teni CCR, epf O'n e foggisipv qistup op namvoqmi xezt fai vu vji Getvmepi qsuditt. O'n wisz qsuaf ug vjev.

Nepz vjeplt vu emm dupvsocavust op vjot vjsief!! Zua nefi nz mogi civvis!! Vjepl zua!!

Vjeplt gus tjesoph, xi'si djephoph mowit jisi op nusi xezt vjep catopitt!

Vjot xet qutvif op epuvjis vjsief katv vji uvjis fez...

Vjeplt NK, zuas qutv up deqovemotoph up EO / vidj tvudl opwitvnipvt metv zies jef optqosif ni epf O jewi 12y'f nz qiptoup op vji qetv 12 nupvjt (vjepl zua!).

 

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