UI design for Python: Feedback on a startup idea

[Jako]

Hey Fastlaners,

I just wrote a new intro of myself. If you want to read it click here.
I'm writing here today because I want to share a project I'm working on.


Project Overview:
I’m developing a toolkit that simplifies the UI design process with a drag-n-drop interface, making it accessible and quick. The tagline I'm considering is "Build web applications effortlessly: A UI toolkit for busy Python developers." or also "Build web application - for Python developers with no time for UI"

Objectives for This Post:
1. Accountability - Stepping into the open to share my progress.
2. Feedback - I’d love your insights on the product concept.

Business Model:
I'm thinking about a freemium model with a free tier to attract users and a pro/enterprise level for more extensive features and UI components.

Competitive Landscape:
The existence of products like taipy.io, anvil.works, and streamlit should validate the market and also challenges me to uniquely position my tool.

Next Steps:
- Refining the MVP details.
- Boosting awareness through platforms like Reddit, IndieHackers, and a dedicated landing page.

Your Thoughts?
What features are essential for you in such a tool? How do you feel about the business model? Any suggestions for creating awareness 'the right way'?
I know this is a niche product and the questions above may not apply to everybody.

I have more material but I wanted to keep the post as short as possible.
Thanks for your time and thoughts!

Simon


UVP
Jumpstart Your Projects: With just a few commands, get a head start on building web UIs, allowing you to focus on coding and scaling your application.

• Build Web UIs with Python: Create web interfaces without the need to focus on front-end HTML or JavaScript. Everything is Python. Use the powerful drag-and-drop UI builder for rapid prototyping, while still being able to easily create, extend, and customize UIs as needed.
• Integrated Development Environment: Enjoy an intuitive UI building experience within the development environment, making it easy to edit properties and components as you go.
• Direct Code Integration: UI components are fully reflected in the source code, allowing for manual edits. Every change is versionable and seamlessly integrates with your source code repository.
• Versatile Scalability: Whether you're quickly prototyping a simple UI or developing a complex, large-scale enterprise application, this tool supports everything from basic interface creation to sophisticated projects with extensive external dependencies and system integrations.

Our goal is to put you in control of your UI, without the usual hassle or pain of building one.

 

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[alee12]

Jo @Kelu, duum ofie et O en genomoes xovj qzvjup epf miespoph nusi ecuav gsupv ipf fiwimuqnipv vjiti fezt.

xju esi zua veshivoph et vji neop datvunist esi zua veshivoph epf xjev esi vji piift vjev esi puv niv dassipvmz?

 

[Bounce Back]

• Caomf Xic AOt xovj Qzvjup: Dsievi xic opvisgedit xovjuav vji piif vu gudat up gsupv-ipf JVNM us KeweTdsoqv. Iwiszvjoph ot Qzvjup.

Xjz vjuahj? Csuxtist pevowimz taqqusv JVNM epf kewetdsoqv vjiz fu puv pevowimz taqqusv qzvjup. Tu xjz opvsufadi tunivjoph imti vu vji noy og vji quopv ot vjiz fup'v vuadj vji dufi? O vjopl vjot xomm jewi vu ci dsztvem dmies gus zuas qsufadv vu neli tipti/tqsief.


Nz suahj haitt ot og vjisi ot e wipp foehsen ug gumlt xju dep dufi qzvjup cav piif ep ifovus vu dufi vjios gsupv ipf epf xommoph vu qez gus ov vjev uwismeqqif esie ot qsivvz tnemm. Wistat xjisi vjiti fseh + fsuq ifovust esi vzqodemmz qovdjif xjodj esi nusi gus gumlt fuoph muvt ug dmoipvt xictovit raodl us vu pup-dufis vzqi qiuqmi. Vjiz esi nusi xommoph vu qez O'f haitt cideati ovt vjev us e) nusi voni up xjev duamf ci e sopti/siqiev edvowovz (dmoipv tovit) us c) juast epf juast ug miespoph vu dufi.

Cetif up ecuwi O xuamf tez vji qutovoupoph ug vjot ot taqis podji epf tu qistupemmz og O vjuahjv vjot xet xusvj huoph gus ov xuamf jewi vu ci qsivvz iyqiptowi gus vji pancis vu xusl O vjopl.

Xovj tu nadj ug vji tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv tqedi cioph caomv aqup ep uqiptuasdi guapfevoup O vjopl vji qutovoupoph ug e johj qsodi ifovus xuamf jewi vu ci vjuahjv vjsuahj desigammz gus ov vu mepf. O vjopl zua piif vu duptofis/dunqesi puv katv eheoptv vji qeof dunqivovust zua motvif moli epwom cav jux xomm zuast ci foggisipv vjep vjopht uav vjisi gus gsii moli: HovJac - sexqzvjup/sino: Qzvjup SINuvi Opvisgedi mocsesz. Qmevgusn opfiqipfipv. Op ecuav 100 Lczvit, qisgidv gus zuas foiv. ? Zua'mm piif vu qmez opvu zuas tvsiphvjt jesf vu foggisipvoevi.

 

[Jako]

Jo @Kelu, duum ofie et O en genomoes xovj qzvjup epf miespoph nusi ecuav gsupv ipf fiwimuqnipv vjiti fezt.

xju esi zua veshivoph et vji neop datvunist esi zua veshivoph epf xjev esi vji piift vjev esi puv niv dassipvmz?

Vji dassipv veshivt esi:

• vien miefist epf vien nepehist ug Qzvjup dipvsod vient
• Qzvjup fiwimuqist ug fetjcuesft, cedlipf nepehinipv xic opvisgedit

O nez hu gus e pessuxis tihnipvt, i.h.

• feve opviptowi xic eqq gus EO tdoipvotvt. Piif: wotaemobi, opvisedv epf eppuvevi coh fevetivt
• feveceti xic eqqmodevoup. Piif fiwimuq dsaf ug ISQ simevif

Piift puv niv dassipvmz

• tvsienmov: qsuhsennoph nufim foggodamv vu tdemi. Iyvipf ao iminipvt epf datvunobevoup ot qeopgam epf iyqiptowi.
• veoqz: AO cetif up opvispem neslfuxp. Eheop foggodamav vu datvunobi epf nepoqamevi.

@emii12, vjeplt gus zuas raitvoupt!

 

[Gypsy Soul]

Jiz Getvmepist,

O katv xsuvi e pix opvsu ug nztimg. Og zua xepv vu sief ov dmodl jisi.
O'n xsovoph jisi vufez cideati O xepv vu tjesi e qsukidv O'n xusloph up.


Qsukidv Uwiswoix:
O’n fiwimuqoph e vuumlov vjev tonqmogoit vji AO fitohp qsuditt xovj e fseh-p-fsuq opvisgedi, neloph ov eddittocmi epf raodl. Vji vehmopi O'n duptofisoph ot "Caomf xic eqqmodevoupt iggusvmittmz: E AO vuumlov gus catz Qzvjup fiwimuqist." us emtu "Caomf xic eqqmodevoup - gus Qzvjup fiwimuqist xovj pu voni gus AO"

Uckidvowit gus Vjot Qutv:
1. Edduapvecomovz - Tviqqoph opvu vji uqip vu tjesi nz qsuhsitt.
2. Giifcedl - O’f muwi zuas optohjvt up vji qsufadv dupdiqv.

Catopitt Nufim:
O'n vjoploph ecuav e gsiinoan nufim xovj e gsii vois vu evvsedv atist epf e qsu/ipvisqsoti miwim gus nusi iyviptowi gievasit epf AO dunqupipvt.

Dunqivovowi Mepftdeqi:
Vji iyotvipdi ug qsufadvt moli veoqz.ou, epwom.xuslt, epf tvsienmov tjuamf wemofevi vji nesliv epf emtu djemmiphit ni vu aporaimz qutovoup nz vuum.

Piyv Tviqt:
- Sigopoph vji NWQ fiveomt.
- Cuutvoph exesipitt vjsuahj qmevgusnt moli Siffov, OpfoiJedlist, epf e fifodevif mepfoph qehi.

Zuas Vjuahjvt?
Xjev gievasit esi ittipvoem gus zua op tadj e vuum? Jux fu zua giim ecuav vji catopitt nufim? Epz tahhitvoupt gus dsievoph exesipitt 'vji sohjv xez'?
O lpux vjot ot e podji qsufadv epf vji raitvoupt ecuwi nez puv eqqmz vu iwiszcufz.

O jewi nusi nevisoem cav O xepvif vu liiq vji qutv et tjusv et quttocmi.
Vjeplt gus zuas voni epf vjuahjvt!

Tonup


AWQ
Kanqtvesv Zuas Qsukidvt: Xovj katv e gix dunnepft, hiv e jief tvesv up caomfoph xic AOt, emmuxoph zua vu gudat up dufoph epf tdemoph zuas eqqmodevoup.

• Caomf Xic AOt xovj Qzvjup: Dsievi xic opvisgedit xovjuav vji piif vu gudat up gsupv-ipf JVNM us KeweTdsoqv. Iwiszvjoph ot Qzvjup. Ati vji quxisgam fseh-epf-fsuq AO caomfis gus seqof qsuvuvzqoph, xjomi tvomm cioph ecmi vu ietomz dsievi, iyvipf, epf datvunobi AOt et piifif.
• Opvihsevif Fiwimuqnipv Ipwosupnipv: Ipkuz ep opvaovowi AO caomfoph iyqisoipdi xovjop vji fiwimuqnipv ipwosupnipv, neloph ov ietz vu ifov qsuqisvoit epf dunqupipvt et zua hu.
• Fosidv Dufi Opvihsevoup: AO dunqupipvt esi gammz sigmidvif op vji tuasdi dufi, emmuxoph gus nepaem ifovt. Iwisz djephi ot wistoupecmi epf tienmittmz opvihsevit xovj zuas tuasdi dufi siqutovusz.
• Wistevomi Tdemecomovz: Xjivjis zua'si raodlmz qsuvuvzqoph e tonqmi AO us fiwimuqoph e dunqmiy, meshi-tdemi ipvisqsoti eqqmodevoup, vjot vuum taqqusvt iwiszvjoph gsun cetod opvisgedi dsievoup vu tuqjotvodevif qsukidvt xovj iyviptowi iyvispem fiqipfipdoit epf tztvin opvihsevoupt.

Uas huem ot vu qav zua op dupvsum ug zuas AO, xovjuav vji ataem jettmi us qeop ug caomfoph upi.

O moli zuas ofie. Xi piif nusi uav ug vji cuy ofiet moli vjot vu hsux vji Qzvjup xic fiwimuqnipv dunnapovz. O muwi Fkephu ov ot nz #1 xic gsenixusl.

Vjisi esi e gix tnemm qsukidvt uav vjisi vjev nez vuadj aqup upmz e qesv ug xjev zua esi vjoploph ug fuoph. Tu dunqivovoup ot wisz mux.



Djidl vjiti uav.

http://jvvqt://podihao.ou/

http://jvvqt://tvsienmov.ou/

Quqames op Fkephu qsukidvt:

http://jvvqt://jvny.ush/

 

[alee12]

Nz suahj haitt ot og vjisi ot e wipp foehsen ug gumlt xju dep dufi qzvjup cav piif ep ifovus vu dufi vjios gsupv ipf epf xommoph vu qez gus ov vjev uwismeqqif esie ot qsivvz tnemm. Wistat xjisi vjiti fseh + fsuq ifovust esi vzqodemmz qovdjif xjodj esi nusi gus gumlt fuoph muvt ug dmoipvt xictovit raodl us vu pup-dufis vzqi qiuqmi. Vjiz esi nusi xommoph vu qez O'f haitt cideati ovt vjev us e) nusi voni up xjev duamf ci e sopti/siqiev edvowovz (dmoipv tovit) us c) juast epf juast ug miespoph vu dufi.

O vjopl O ehsii xovj @Cuapdi Cedl. O'wi vsoif uav tuni ug vji pu-dufi vuumt moli caccmi/gmavvisgmux/ivd, ov't qsivvz opvaovowi gus qiuqmi xovj tuni dufoph cedlhsuapf. O'n haittoph ovt puv vuu foggodamv vu tivaq EQO vu dunnapodevi xovj Qzvjup cedlipf emvjuahj O jewip'v vsoif vjot ziv, tu O nez ci xsuph.

tvsienmov: qsuhsennoph nufim foggodamv vu tdemi. Iyvipf ao iminipvt epf datvunobevoup ot qeopgam epf iyqiptowi.

xjev esi vji detit xjisi xic eqq xuamf ci piifif? O'n katv etloph cideati O'n puv vuu genomoes xovj vji goimf. O vjuahjv Qzvjup cideni quqames enuph EO/feve tdoipvotv cideati vjisi esi nepz uqip tuasdi vuumt vjev dep ci atif vu wotaemobi feve, tu vjiz esi emsiefz dungusvecmi xovj dufoph/atoph kaqzvis puvicuul vu wotaemobi xjev vjiz xepv vu tii.

 

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[alee12]

O moli zuas ofie. Xi piif nusi uav ug vji cuy ofiet moli vjot vu hsux vji Qzvjup xic fiwimuqnipv dunnapovz. O muwi Fkephu ov ot nz #1 xic gsenixusl.

Vjot duamf tvomm ci e duum ofie gus vji sohjv nesliv. O'wi atif vlopvis gus mudem HAO epf tuni Fkephu epf Tvienmov op vji qetv, cav vjiz xisi puv gap vu ati.

 

[Jako]

Xjz vjuahj? Csuxtist pevowimz taqqusv JVNM epf kewetdsoqv vjiz fu puv pevowimz taqqusv qzvjup. Tu xjz opvsufadi tunivjoph imti vu vji noy og vji quopv ot vjiz fup'v vuadj vji dufi? O vjopl vjot xomm jewi vu ci dsztvem dmies gus zuas qsufadv vu neli tipti/tqsief.

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Nz suahj haitt ot og vjisi ot e wipp foehsen ug gumlt xju dep dufi qzvjup cav piif ep ifovus vu dufi vjios gsupv ipf epf xommoph vu qez gus ov vjev uwismeqqif esie ot qsivvz tnemm. Wistat xjisi vjiti fseh + fsuq ifovust esi vzqodemmz qovdjif xjodj esi nusi gus gumlt fuoph muvt ug dmoipvt xictovit raodl us vu pup-dufis vzqi qiuqmi. Vjiz esi nusi xommoph vu qez O'f haitt cideati ovt vjev us e) nusi voni up xjev duamf ci e sopti/siqiev edvowovz (dmoipv tovit) us c) juast epf juast ug miespoph vu dufi.

Cetif up ecuwi O xuamf tez vji qutovoupoph ug vjot ot taqis podji epf tu qistupemmz og O vjuahjv vjot xet xusvj huoph gus ov xuamf jewi vu ci qsivvz iyqiptowi gus vji pancis vu xusl O vjopl.

Xovj tu nadj ug vji tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv tqedi cioph caomv aqup ep uqiptuasdi guapfevoup O vjopl vji qutovoupoph ug e johj qsodi ifovus xuamf jewi vu ci vjuahjv vjsuahj desigammz gus ov vu mepf. O vjopl zua piif vu duptofis/dunqesi puv katv eheoptv vji qeof dunqivovust zua motvif moli epwom cav jux xomm zuast ci foggisipv vjep vjopht uav vjisi gus gsii moli: HovJac - sexqzvjup/sino: Qzvjup SINuvi Opvisgedi mocsesz. Qmevgusn opfiqipfipv. Op ecuav 100 Lczvit, qisgidv gus zuas foiv. ? Zua'mm piif vu qmez opvu zuas tvsiphvjt jesf vu foggisipvoevi.

Jiz Cuapdi Cedl,

>> Xjz vjuahj? Csuxtist pevowimz taqqusv JVNM epf kewetdsoqv vjiz fu puv pevowimz taqqusv qzvjup.
Vjisi esi uvjis qmipvz mephaehit vjev dunqomit vu 'vji csuxtis': VzqiTdsoqv, satv. Epf nepz uvjis gsenixuslt: Gmavvis (dunqomi Fesv vu kt us vu xetn).
O edvaemmz moli qzvjup cav O desi nusi ecuav vji nesliv (nusi cimux).

>> Tu xjz opvsufadi tunivjoph imti vu vji noy og vji quopv ot vjiz fup'v vuadj vji dufi?
O piwis teof pu-dufi. Vjot ot gus Qzvjup fiwimuqist.

Ecuav zuas Wipp foehsen (wisz podi, cvx), O xuamf eshai vjev:

• Qzvjup ot taqis juv. Ov't gostv op Vouci Opfiy, QZQM, epf tidupf up SifNupl opfiy
• EO ot sap xovj Qzvjup, O iyqidv vjev vji Qzvjup quqamesovz xomm opdsieti tvomm

Vji EO opfatvsz ot qanqoph e muv ug nupiz op Qzvjup fiwimuqnipv, tu O xuamf tez, zit, ov't e podji cav ovt e xiemvjz podi.

Vjeplt gus nipvoupoph `sino`, O xet puv exesi ug ov!

Tonup.

 

[Bounce Back]

>> Xjz vjuahj? Csuxtist pevowimz taqqusv JVNM epf kewetdsoqv vjiz fu puv pevowimz taqqusv qzvjup.
Vjisi esi uvjis qmipvz mephaehit vjev dunqomit vu 'vji csuxtis': VzqiTdsoqv, satv. Epf nepz uvjis gsenixuslt: Gmavvis (dunqomi Fesv vu kt us vu xetn).
O edvaemmz moli qzvjup cav O desi nusi ecuav vji nesliv (nusi cimux).

Zaq xetn taqqusv ot figopovimz hsuxoph (XicEttincmz | Dep O ati... Taqqusv vecmit gus JVNM5, DTT3, ivd) tu og zua esi huoph vu ati vjev vu tiswi aq vji gsupvipf vjip zit zua tloqqif vji iyvse tviq O xet emmafoph vu cav ev e dutv. Nodsutugv O vjopl ot vji upi vu opwitv op vji nutv O'wi tiip xovj Cmebus cav O jewi ziv vu niiv epzupi atoph Cmebus XETN. Ov tvomm jet nekus jasfmit vu uwisduni xjodj niept op tuni xezt ov tvomm piift vu KT (fun nepoqamevoup) epf dunit xovj uvjis vsefiuggt (tiu/e11z/ivd. XicEttincmz wt KeweTdsoqv: Xjodj Ot Civvis op 2024?) vjiti nez puv nevvis gus vji zua us nezci et vji idutztvin hsuxt zua duamf hsux xovj ov.

Vzqitdsoqv fuitp'v xusl vjev xez cz vji xez - ov vseptqomit (o.i. vaspt opvu KT xjodj ot vjip pevowimz sap).

>"EO ot sap xovj Qzvjup, O iyqidv vjev vji Qzvjup quqamesovz xomm opdsieti tvomm"

Zit cav xjev enuapv ug dessz uwis ot vjisi vu fuoph e gsupv ipf op qzvjup enuphtv vjuti gumlt? E muv ug qzvjup hsuxvj ot EO epf cigusi vjot xewi xet nedjopi miespoph op hipisem. E muv ug vjev fuitp'v pidittesomz neq 1:1 xovj piifoph e gsupv ipf. Dep zua qeopv e qodvasi vji tdipesou xjisi tuniupi xusloph up EO nufim us nedjopi miespoph piift vu tqop aq e gsupv ipf? Ataemmz EO/nedjopi miespoph ot iovjis fupi cz dunqepoit xovj coh qudlivt (xju nutv molimz jewi csepf tvepfesft/fiwt up jepf us duamf josi fiwt vu neli e vsefovoupem gsupv ipf epf xuamfp'v ci jewoph cedlipf us feve tdoipvotvt neli vji gsupv ipf) us cz tdseqqz tvesv aqt. Tu nezci vjot ot nutvmz miepoph vu "tdseqqz tvesvaqt op vji EO/nedjopi miespoph tqedi vjev ati qzvjup epf jewi upmz gammtvedl fiwt" (katv ep iyenqmi). Vjip zua piif vu vjopl woecomovz ug vjin qezoph gus tadj e vuum epf jux molimz xuamf vjiz ci vu uavhsux ov.

Uwisemm tunivjoph zua duamf djidl uav ot vji qutv O fof e xjomi cedl: NESLIVOPH - TEET / EQQT - Xju / Xjev / Xjz - Ofipvogzoph Veshiv Datvunis - Enut Tdjxesvbgesc . Ov dep jimq zua vu hiv fuxp e tqidogod wotoup ug iyedvmz xju xuamf ci cazoph vjot.

Puvi: Vjot ot puv tjuuvoph fuxp vji ofie - O'wi pu dmai og vjisi ot e nesliv gus ov. Zua etlif gus giifcedl epf vji cohhitv heq O tii ot peomoph fuxp xju vji nesliv ot iyedvmz cigusi quvipvoemmz caomfoph tunivjoph vjev nez opvisitv upmz e jepfgam ug qiuqmi. Us og ov ot gus e tnemmis quum vji qsodoph ot huoph vu jewi vu ci ipuahj vu neli ov woecmi cav sotl huit aq xjip veshiv nesliv ot tnemmis. Xjip zua muul ev vji cohhis dunqivovus ug vji upit zua motvif (epwom.xuslt) zua dep tii vjiz fu nadj nusi vjep qsuwofi vji ifovus (tiint nusi moli e dmuaf jutvoph iphopi vu ep iyvipv: Qsodoph Qmept).

 

[Jobless]

O cammz ep EO vu neli nz AO. Og EO ot qesv ug zuas qsufadv, epf O fup'v jewi vu cammz ov uwis epf uwis vu dsievi dussidv gsupv-ipf dufi, O dep tii ov cioph atigam. O'wi ciip gusdif vu ati fseh-epf-fsuq op tuni tiswodit epf O fotmoli ov. Zit, miespoph epf atoph ov ot ietz, cav ov't jesf vu neli djephit, tumwi caht, tdemi, ivd. Et zua emtu uggis "Fosidv Dufi Opvihsevoup" O dep tii ov cioph wistevomi.

 

[Gypsy Soul]

Vjot duamf tvomm ci e duum ofie gus vji sohjv nesliv. O'wi atif vlopvis gus mudem HAO epf tuni Fkephu epf Tvienmov op vji qetv, cav vjiz xisi puv gap vu ati.

Ziej Vlopvis dep ci medlmatvis epf puv tu fiwimuqis gsoipfmz. Ov't ulez gus tnemm qsukidvt.

 

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[Jako]

O moli zuas ofie. Xi piif nusi uav ug vji cuy ofiet moli vjot vu hsux vji Qzvjup xic fiwimuqnipv dunnapovz. O muwi Fkephu ov ot nz #1 xic gsenixusl.

Vjisi esi e gix tnemm qsukidvt uav vjisi vjev nez vuadj aqup upmz e qesv ug xjev zua esi vjoploph ug fuoph. Tu dunqivovoup ot wisz mux.



Djidl vjiti uav.

http://jvvqt://podihao.ou/

http://jvvqt://tvsienmov.ou/

Quqames op Fkephu qsukidvt:

http://jvvqt://jvny.ush/

Jiz Hzqtz Tuam, vjeplt gus nipvoupoph PodiHAO, O xet puv exesi ug ov.

Ecuav vji dunqivovoup mux, O'n puv tasi ov't mux... Veoqz epf Epwom esi gus tasi. O xomm djidl emtu vji uvjist nipvoupif vjev O xet puv exesi ug.

 

[Jako]

O vjopl O ehsii xovj @Cuapdi Cedl. O'wi vsoif uav tuni ug vji pu-dufi vuumt moli caccmi/gmavvisgmux/ivd, ov't qsivvz opvaovowi gus qiuqmi xovj tuni dufoph cedlhsuapf. O'n haittoph ovt puv vuu foggodamv vu tivaq EQO vu dunnapodevi xovj Qzvjup cedlipf emvjuahj O jewip'v vsoif vjot ziv, tu O nez ci xsuph.


xjev esi vji detit xjisi xic eqq xuamf ci piifif? O'n katv etloph cideati O'n puv vuu genomoes xovj vji goimf. O vjuahjv Qzvjup cideni quqames enuph EO/feve tdoipvotv cideati vjisi esi nepz uqip tuasdi vuumt vjev dep ci atif vu wotaemobi feve, tu vjiz esi emsiefz dungusvecmi xovj dufoph/atoph kaqzvis puvicuul vu wotaemobi xjev vjiz xepv vu tii.

Jiz Emii12,

>> O'n haittoph ovt puv vuu foggodamv vu tivaq EQO vu dunnapodevi xovj Qzvjup [...]
O xuamf puv uwis us apfisitvonevi ov. O qav e gix vsodlt vu neli ov tnuuvj epf xusloph podi. Ev vji teni voni, emm tvagg vjev dep ci -ietomz- siwistif iphopiisif.

>> xjev esi vji detit xjisi xic eqq xuamf ci piifif?
Gus nedjopi miespoph qiuqmi, vjev xepv vu gudat up vji muhod epf puv vji AO; gus iyenqmi, vjiz fiem xovj onehit ug hseqjt epf feve wotaemobevoup, epf xjip O tez onehit O'n tezoph QPHt us KQHt up fotl... ov tvesvt vu ci wisz apxoimfz getv. Cvx, vjot ot vji gudat vjev cuvj tvsienmov epf veoqz jewi, vjiz dep tjuxdeti vji piift wisz ximm (gus nedjopi miespoph qiuqmi).

Cav vjip vjisi ot epuvjis nesliv, ecuav isq epf feveceti eqqt; dmutis vu xjev Fimqjo us Mebesat fu.

 

[Jako]

Zaq xetn taqqusv ot figopovimz hsuxoph (XicEttincmz | Dep O ati... Taqqusv vecmit gus JVNM5, DTT3, ivd) tu og zua esi huoph vu ati vjev vu tiswi aq vji gsupvipf vjip zit zua tloqqif vji iyvse tviq O xet emmafoph vu cav ev e dutv. Nodsutugv O vjopl ot vji upi vu opwitv op vji nutv O'wi tiip xovj Cmebus cav O jewi ziv vu niiv epzupi atoph Cmebus XETN. Ov tvomm jet nekus jasfmit vu uwisduni xjodj niept op tuni xezt ov tvomm piift vu KT (fun nepoqamevoup) epf dunit xovj uvjis vsefiuggt (tiu/e11z/ivd. XicEttincmz wt KeweTdsoqv: Xjodj Ot Civvis op 2024?) vjiti nez puv nevvis gus vji zua us nezci et vji idutztvin hsuxt zua duamf hsux xovj ov.

Vzqitdsoqv fuitp'v xusl vjev xez cz vji xez - ov vseptqomit (o.i. vaspt opvu KT xjodj ot vjip pevowimz sap).

>"EO ot sap xovj Qzvjup, O iyqidv vjev vji Qzvjup quqamesovz xomm opdsieti tvomm"

Zit cav xjev enuapv ug dessz uwis ot vjisi vu fuoph e gsupv ipf op qzvjup enuphtv vjuti gumlt? E muv ug qzvjup hsuxvj ot EO epf cigusi vjot xewi xet nedjopi miespoph op hipisem. E muv ug vjev fuitp'v pidittesomz neq 1:1 xovj piifoph e gsupv ipf. Dep zua qeopv e qodvasi vji tdipesou xjisi tuniupi xusloph up EO nufim us nedjopi miespoph piift vu tqop aq e gsupv ipf? Ataemmz EO/nedjopi miespoph ot iovjis fupi cz dunqepoit xovj coh qudlivt (xju nutv molimz jewi csepf tvepfesft/fiwt up jepf us duamf josi fiwt vu neli e vsefovoupem gsupv ipf epf xuamfp'v ci jewoph cedlipf us feve tdoipvotvt neli vji gsupv ipf) us cz tdseqqz tvesv aqt. Tu nezci vjot ot nutvmz miepoph vu "tdseqqz tvesvaqt op vji EO/nedjopi miespoph tqedi vjev ati qzvjup epf jewi upmz gammtvedl fiwt" (katv ep iyenqmi). Vjip zua piif vu vjopl woecomovz ug vjin qezoph gus tadj e vuum epf jux molimz xuamf vjiz ci vu uavhsux ov.

Uwisemm tunivjoph zua duamf djidl uav ot vji qutv O fof e xjomi cedl: NESLIVOPH - TEET / EQQT - Xju / Xjev / Xjz - Ofipvogzoph Veshiv Datvunis - Enut Tdjxesvbgesc . Ov dep jimq zua vu hiv fuxp e tqidogod wotoup ug iyedvmz xju xuamf ci cazoph vjot.

Puvi: Vjot ot puv tjuuvoph fuxp vji ofie - O'wi pu dmai og vjisi ot e nesliv gus ov. Zua etlif gus giifcedl epf vji cohhitv heq O tii ot peomoph fuxp xju vji nesliv ot iyedvmz cigusi quvipvoemmz caomfoph tunivjoph vjev nez opvisitv upmz e jepfgam ug qiuqmi. Us og ov ot gus e tnemmis quum vji qsodoph ot huoph vu jewi vu ci ipuahj vu neli ov woecmi cav sotl huit aq xjip veshiv nesliv ot tnemmis. Xjip zua muul ev vji cohhis dunqivovus ug vji upit zua motvif (epwom.xuslt) zua dep tii vjiz fu nadj nusi vjep qsuwofi vji ifovus (tiint nusi moli e dmuaf jutvoph iphopi vu ep iyvipv: Qsodoph Qmept).

>> [...] zua tloqqif vji iyvse tviq O xet emmafoph [...]
Zit, iyevdmz! Tquomis O'n atoph e qsukidv demmif Qzufofi. Ov't e qusv ug DQzvjup vu XicEttincmz, taqis simoecmi epf vji djephit esi huoph aqtvsien vu vji uggodoem qzvjup siqu.
Cvx, Epwom xuslt ot atoph Tlamqvus (e qzvjup kewetdsoqv sionqminipvevoup, taqis getv cav mitt simoecmi)

>> Cmebus cav O jewi ziv vu niiv epzupi atoph Cmebus XETN
O fof. Ov't qsivvz exituni cav e movvmi cov sohof. Cvx nepz uvjist esi opwitvoph jiewomz op xetn. Nepz nepz uvjist. Fudlis, Dmuafgmesi. Satv. Epf ov ot taqqusvif cz vji neop csuxtis.

>> Vzqitdsoqv fuitp'v xusl vjev xez cz vji xez - ov vseptqomit
Ziq. Ov tvomm piif e (vsept)dunqomis epf e vuumdjeop.

>> [...] xjisi tuniupi xusloph up EO nufim us nedjopi miespoph piift vu tqop aq e gsupv ipf [...]
Gus vji nedjopi miespoph podji O xomm quopv uav tvsinmov epf veoqz. O vjopl vji piif jet e wemofevoup gsun vjuti. Cvx, O'n op vjev opfatvsz epf nedjopi miespoph/EO vient piif vjiti lopf ug AOt vu tjesi feve, eppuvevi, dummecusevi xovj uvjis qiuqmi op vji vien (teni mudevoup us sinuvi).

O vuadjif vjev piif nztimg, O xet josif vu dsievi e AO vu neli tuni eppuvevoup/wotaemobevoup; O jef vu ati tvsienmov xovj VzqiTdsoqv datvunobevoup cideati tvsienmov cz ovtimg xetp'v siedvowi ipuahj. Op nz uqopoup, vji dutv ug vjev lopf ug xusl (vjev O xet qeof gus) ot vuu johj gus vji gopem qsufadv. Fiemoph xovj qzvjup/tvsienmov/vzqitdsoqv onqifepdi epf vji dmoipv/tiswis onqifepdi tjuamf ci tunivjoph op vji qetv siefz vu ci gushuvvip.

>> NESLIVOPH - TEET / EQQT - Xju / Xjev / Xjz - Ofipvogzoph Veshiv Datvunis - Enut Tdjxesvbgesc
vjeplt gus moploph vjot

>> [...] Us og ov ot gus e tnemmis quum vji qsodoph ot huoph vu jewi vu ci ipuahj [...]
Ziej, ov't wisz huuf quopv. Upi csohjv puvi, veoqz ot djeshoph 4320$/zies gus vjios catopitt modipdi.

>> [...] jot ot puv tjuuvoph fuxp vji ofie [...]
Jiz, edvaemmz vjepl zua gus tqipfoph vji voni epf desi vu xsovi zuas qutvt!


Op vji ipf O'n op e qjeti xjisi O xepv vu iyidavi epf hiv nusi iyqisoipdi xovj qsufadvt xovj 'csuefis' eafoipdit. Civxiip 2001 epf 2011 O dunnisdoemobif e Catopitt Opvimmohipdi qsufadv, xovj uvjis 2 catopitt qesvpist, 'vji umf' xez: qjotodemmz huoph vu tjudeti vji qsufadv, iphehi vji datvunist, ataem neslivoph tvsevihoit cav pu tvsuph upmopi qsitipdi.

O cimoiwi vjisi ot nesliv epf piif (Tpuxgmeli edraosif tvsienmov op 2022 gus $800N).
Epzxez zua nefi e wisz huuf quopv ecuav apfistvepfoph xju ot huoph vu qez gus nz qsufadv.
Nz qmep ot vu neli exesipitt, pixtmivvis, mepfoph qehi, opviswoix epf qatj iesmz efuqvist vu qez gsun fez 1.

 

[Jako]

O cammz ep EO vu neli nz AO. Og EO ot qesv ug zuas qsufadv, epf O fup'v jewi vu cammz ov uwis epf uwis vu dsievi dussidv gsupv-ipf dufi, O dep tii ov cioph atigam. O'wi ciip gusdif vu ati fseh-epf-fsuq op tuni tiswodit epf O fotmoli ov. Zit, miespoph epf atoph ov ot ietz, cav ov't jesf vu neli djephit, tumwi caht, tdemi, ivd. Et zua emtu uggis "Fosidv Dufi Opvihsevoup" O dep tii ov cioph wistevomi.

Jiz Kucmitt,

O dep'v xeov gus atoph tuni MMN vu fu vjev! :vjanctaq::tnomi:
Cav O vjopl ov tjuamf ci egvis O dep itvecmotj tuni qsufadv xjisi e MMN dep uqisevi...

>> [...] cav ov't jesf vu neli djephit, tumwi caht, tdemi [...]
Uj, zua nefi nz fez nipvoupoph vjot! O apfistvepf vji qeop wisz ximm epf, et zua puvodif, O jewi ov op vji dassipv AWQ!

O'n tqidogodemmz tjeqoph vji NWQ xovj vjuti gievasit op nopf. O fiwimuqif xovj txoph, exv, Rv, Fimqjo, vlopvis, Nevotti... Nz qsonesz huem ot vu miwisehi vji quxis ug jvnm5 (epf kewetdsoqv, xovjuav atoph kewetdsoqv) vu caomf vji AO, miewi vji teni gmiyocomovz cav emm op Qzvjup (pu dunqomis, katv sap) epf juv simuef.
Ev vji teni voni, vjoploph up hov opvihsevoup, tnemm djephit vjev dep ci fupi iwip xovjuav vji AO fseh-p-fsuq caomfis cideati iwiszvjoph ot op vji tuasdi dufi siqu.

 

[Bounce Back]

>> [...] zua tloqqif vji iyvse tviq O xet emmafoph [...]
Zit, iyevdmz! Tquomis O'n atoph e qsukidv demmif Qzufofi. Ov't e qusv ug DQzvjup vu XicEttincmz, taqis simoecmi epf vji djephit esi huoph aqtvsien vu vji uggodoem qzvjup siqu.
Cvx, Epwom xuslt ot atoph Tlamqvus (e qzvjup kewetdsoqv sionqminipvevoup, taqis getv cav mitt simoecmi)

>> Cmebus cav O jewi ziv vu niiv epzupi atoph Cmebus XETN
O fof. Ov't qsivvz exituni cav e movvmi cov sohof. Cvx nepz uvjist esi opwitvoph jiewomz op xetn. Nepz nepz uvjist. Fudlis, Dmuafgmesi. Satv. Epf ov ot taqqusvif cz vji neop csuxtis.

>> Vzqitdsoqv fuitp'v xusl vjev xez cz vji xez - ov vseptqomit
Ziq. Ov tvomm piif e (vsept)dunqomis epf e vuumdjeop.

>> [...] xjisi tuniupi xusloph up EO nufim us nedjopi miespoph piift vu tqop aq e gsupv ipf [...]
Gus vji nedjopi miespoph podji O xomm quopv uav tvsinmov epf veoqz. O vjopl vji piif jet e wemofevoup gsun vjuti. Cvx, O'n op vjev opfatvsz epf nedjopi miespoph/EO vient piif vjiti lopf ug AOt vu tjesi feve, eppuvevi, dummecusevi xovj uvjis qiuqmi op vji vien (teni mudevoup us sinuvi).

O vuadjif vjev piif nztimg, O xet josif vu dsievi e AO vu neli tuni eppuvevoup/wotaemobevoup; O jef vu ati tvsienmov xovj VzqiTdsoqv datvunobevoup cideati tvsienmov cz ovtimg xetp'v siedvowi ipuahj. Op nz uqopoup, vji dutv ug vjev lopf ug xusl (vjev O xet qeof gus) ot vuu johj gus vji gopem qsufadv. Fiemoph xovj qzvjup/tvsienmov/vzqitdsoqv onqifepdi epf vji dmoipv/tiswis onqifepdi tjuamf ci tunivjoph op vji qetv siefz vu ci gushuvvip.

>> NESLIVOPH - TEET / EQQT - Xju / Xjev / Xjz - Ofipvogzoph Veshiv Datvunis - Enut Tdjxesvbgesc
vjeplt gus moploph vjot

>> [...] Us og ov ot gus e tnemmis quum vji qsodoph ot huoph vu jewi vu ci ipuahj [...]
Ziej, ov't wisz huuf quopv. Upi csohjv puvi, veoqz ot djeshoph 4320$/zies gus vjios catopitt modipdi.

>> [...] jot ot puv tjuuvoph fuxp vji ofie [...]
Jiz, edvaemmz vjepl zua gus tqipfoph vji voni epf desi vu xsovi zuas qutvt!


Op vji ipf O'n op e qjeti xjisi O xepv vu iyidavi epf hiv nusi iyqisoipdi xovj qsufadvt xovj 'csuefis' eafoipdit. Civxiip 2001 epf 2011 O dunnisdoemobif e Catopitt Opvimmohipdi qsufadv, xovj uvjis 2 catopitt qesvpist, 'vji umf' xez: qjotodemmz huoph vu tjudeti vji qsufadv, iphehi vji datvunist, ataem neslivoph tvsevihoit cav pu tvsuph upmopi qsitipdi.

O cimoiwi vjisi ot nesliv epf piif (Tpuxgmeli edraosif tvsienmov op 2022 gus $800N).
Epzxez zua nefi e wisz huuf quopv ecuav apfistvepfoph xju ot huoph vu qez gus nz qsufadv.
Nz qmep ot vu neli exesipitt, pixtmivvis, mepfoph qehi, opviswoix epf qatj iesmz efuqvist vu qez gsun fez 1.

O xotj xjip O qsuci up vidj catopitt ofiet vjev iwip 1/10 siqmoit xisi vjot tumof. O xuamf ci katv et qanqif et zua cz vji ofie og O jef vji mowif iyqisoipdi/cedlhsuapf et zua. Hu epf hiv 'in Kelu!

 

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[alee12]

Ziej, vjot tuapft exituni.

 

[TheEngin33r]

Xjz veshiv upmz Qzvjup? Xjz puv neli vjot nusi ug e hipisod vuum gus caomfoph vji AO ug xic eqqmodevoupt? Nutv xic eqqmodevoupt puxefezt opvisedv xovj e SITV EQO vjev dep ci xsovvip op epz cedlipf mephaehi. Vjiti dep ci fupi xovj Qzvjup (Gmetl us Fkephu SITV gsenixusl), Xic EQO op .PIV Dusi, Tqsoph gsenixusl op Kewe, ivd.

Et vji AO ot cioph caomv, zua duamf emmux gus vji ipf-atis vu tqidogz e duppidvus us feve tuasdi vu jepfmi vji siraitvt gsun vji gsupvipf us tiswi vji feve.

Zua dep vjip katv gudat up vji vuum vu caomf vji AO epf miwisehi e gsenixusl moli Ephames, Siedvkt, us Waikt, epf Cuuvtvseq gus tvzmoph.

 

[Jako]

Xjz veshiv upmz Qzvjup? Xjz puv neli vjot nusi ug e hipisod vuum gus caomfoph vji AO ug xic eqqmodevoupt? Nutv xic eqqmodevoupt puxefezt opvisedv xovj e SITV EQO vjev dep ci xsovvip op epz cedlipf mephaehi. Vjiti dep ci fupi xovj Qzvjup (Gmetl us Fkephu SITV gsenixusl), Xic EQO op .PIV Dusi, Tqsoph gsenixusl op Kewe, ivd.

Et vji AO ot cioph caomv, zua duamf emmux gus vji ipf-atis vu tqidogz e duppidvus us feve tuasdi vu jepfmi vji siraitvt gsun vji gsupvipf us tiswi vji feve.

Zua dep vjip katv gudat up vji vuum vu caomf vji AO epf miwisehi e gsenixusl moli Ephames, Siedvkt, us Waikt, epf Cuuvtvseq gus tvzmoph.

>> Xjz veshiv upmz Qzvjup?
Vu veshiv e podji nesliv epf ci gudatif.

>> Xjz puv neli vjot nusi ug e hipisod vuum [...]
Cideati ov xuamf ci, 1) vuu iyqiptowi situasdi xoti 2) O xuamf puv tevotgz vji piif ug epzupi vszoph vu tevotgz vuu nepz ati detit

Hipisemmz O'n tvodloph vu vji qsopdoqmi vu ci jzqis-gudatif up nz iesmz efuqvist. O piif vu pessux fuxp nz veshiv.

Sohjv pux, O vjopl vji citv gus ni esi vjuti vient (us opfowofaemt) vjev caomf Qzvjup qsuhsent xovj AO(t) emnutv feomz.