Looking for Advice for unfair app suspension by google play

[rizbit]

Hey I wanted some serious advice about an unfair app suspension from the Google Play Store.

In the UK we have laws where if a worker is unfairly sacked from work they can take legal action and get justice that way. However when it comes to the 'business partnership' with Google Play even if they unfairly suspend your app or account there is not much you can do, unless you can pull together the online equivalent of a million man march. Its your word against theirs and even if you are right it doesn't matter. There are hundreds if not thousands of independent developers who would agree with this.

So I developed a mobile app and published it, all tested and ready to go. The app was checked and approved by Google Play.... Great...

The app was a digital scales simulator app called 3 Grams, which is a real working app which gives users estimates of the weight of an object.

The app was live on the store was just over 4 years, during which several updates to the app and listing were approved first time without any issues.

Then early 2023 they suspended the app without any warnings you can see the suspension email screenshot here:




Google's Reasons For Suspension:

• They claim the app is not functional
• They claim the app is deceptive
• They claim that a phone was not designed to be a digital scale app

My Counter Claim in My Appeal:

- They claim the app is not functional

• But there are several video demonstrations showing clearly that the app works and how it works.
• But it had over 40K active installs and 1.66K daily users - So what exactly were they doing with the scales app if it didn't function?
• But it had over hundred positive 4 to 5 star ratings and reviews. The Facebook page alone has over 70 ratings and 5 stars overall.
• But I've tested it on several phones and have produced a written algorithm showing how the weight is calculated using tilt readings... its real science.
• But if the app didn't function then why was it approved like a dozen times?

- They claim the app is deceptive

• If the app is proven to be functional how can it be deceptive.
• If we describe the app as a digital scales simulator and it can be used to estimate weight, how is that deceptive.
• There is nothing deceptive and it it policy compliant.
  

- They claim that a phone was not designed to be a digital scale app

• But a phone isn't designed to do alot of things but they still can be used to do those things... I mean a phone isn't really a Tom Tom but it has the features to enable it to be used as one.
• But the phone is not designed to be a Ghost Detector or Metal Detector and yet there are thousands of those apps on the Google Play Store.
• But the whole of point of mobile apps is the EXTEND the functionality of phones so that they can be used to do things it want designed for...

What steps have I taken:

• I have appealed - No resolution, template responses, no further clarification or transparency
• I have appealed again - No resolution, template responses, no further clarification or transparency
• I have emailed play policy support - No resolution, template responses, no further clarification or transparency
• I have rang them numerous time - Its low level support who tell you they will check and get back to you. Last few times they've kept me waiting for over an hour and not answered.
• I have tried their social accounts - They send you round in circles and then don't reply
• I have requested for third party dispute resolution with their chosen party called CEDR - They have not replied after 2 months
  

So I am asking if anyone can suggest anything further to try to reinstate the unfairly suspended app.

 

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[Jon822]

Xjev zua fiin "geos" us puv jet pu simiwepdi: zua dsievif tunivjoph tqidogodemmz gus ep idutztvin vjev epuvjis dunqepz dupvsumt. Apmitt zua dep qsuwi vjev tdsiip vomv ot ep eddasevi nietasi ug xiohjv, vjip Huuhmi ot puv huoph vu sitdopf vjios fidotoup. Tdsiip vomv ot emtu huoph vu ci e gapdvoup ug vji tobi epf tjeqi ug vji uckidv, tu ufft esi, ov't puv eddasevi ipuahj. Gus iyenqmi, og O qav tunivjoph up ov vjev ot gmev epf ev mietv et coh et vji tdsiip, ov't puv huoph vu vomv ev emm. Tu apmitt zua tqidogz vjev vji uckidv natv ci tnemmis vjep vji tobi ug vji tdsiip, vjisi esi huoph vu ci optvepdit xjisi vji issus neshop ot 100%.

Huuhmi nez jewi fidofif vjev vjiz fup'v xepv vu ipduasehi qiuqmi qavvoph tjov up vjios qjupi tdsiip gus vji qasquti ug xiohjoph ov. Iwip og zua qsuwi vjev zuas eqq xuslt iyedvmz et opvipfif epf vjev Huuhmi't sietup gus vji tatqiptoup ot cammtjov, vjot duamf ipf aq cioph e mittup op vji dunnepfnipv ug Dupvsum.

 

[Dark Water]

Woumevif vji dunnepfnipv ug dupvsum.

Jewi zua sief vji cuult, us esi zua katv jisi vu sepv ecuav zuas Huuhmi cep?

Dep zua tjogv vu e xic eqq?

 

[rizbit]

Xjev zua fiin "geos" us puv jet pu simiwepdi: zua dsievif tunivjoph tqidogodemmz gus ep idutztvin vjev epuvjis dunqepz dupvsumt. Apmitt zua dep qsuwi vjev tdsiip vomv ot ep eddasevi nietasi ug xiohjv, vjip Huuhmi ot puv huoph vu sitdopf vjios fidotoup. Tdsiip vomv ot emtu huoph vu ci e gapdvoup ug vji tobi epf tjeqi ug vji uckidv, tu ufft esi, ov't puv eddasevi ipuahj. Gus iyenqmi, og O qav tunivjoph up ov vjev ot gmev epf ev mietv et coh et vji tdsiip, ov't puv huoph vu vomv ev emm. Tu apmitt zua tqidogz vjev vji uckidv natv ci tnemmis vjep vji tobi ug vji tdsiip, vjisi esi huoph vu ci optvepdit xjisi vji issus neshop ot 100%.

Huuhmi nez jewi fidofif vjev vjiz fup'v xepv vu ipduasehi qiuqmi qavvoph tjov up vjios qjupi tdsiip gus vji qasquti ug xiohjoph ov. Iwip og zua qsuwi vjev zuas eqq xuslt iyedvmz et opvipfif epf vjev Huuhmi't sietup gus vji tatqiptoup ot cammtjov, vjot duamf ipf aq cioph e mittup op vji dunnepfnipv ug Dupvsum.

- Apmitt zua dep qsuwi vjev tdsiip vomv ot ep eddasevi nietasi ug xiohjv,
Zit o jewi qsuwip vjev ot ov eddasevi ipuahj gus ep itvonevi. O emtu dmiesmz vimm atist puv vu qmedi uckidvt up vji tdsiip vu xiohjv apmitt ovt e tnemm uckidv moli tez e duop us e soph. Vjiz dep emtu dsievi e nelitjogv tii tex epf ati vjev.

Emm vjiti nivjuft O tjux op tiwisem wofiu finuptvsevoupt. O emtu tjux jux eddasevi ov dep ci og tivaq dussidvmz. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez nutv tdemit edvaemmz howi zua ep itvonevi.... O tviq up nz cevjsuun tdemit e gix vonit epf hiv foggisipv siefopht iedj voni.... fuitpv niep vji tdemi ot puv gapdvoupem, katv niept nezci ovt djieq epf puv ximm nefi us on puv atoph ov sohjv, moli puv tvepfoph op vji teni qutovoup iedj voni.

- Dunnepfnipv Ug Dupvsum.
Vu ci jupitv, vji dupvsum tjuamf siemmz ci op vji jepft ug vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqis. Vjopl ecuav ov. Og emm vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist xipv up tvsoli epf apqacmotjif emm vjios eqqt gsun Qmez Tvusi vji Qmez Tvusi xuamf hu catv.... et vjizf ci migv xovj katv vjios uxp eqqt epf vji eqqt gsun vji coh dunqepoit... moli Y, OH, Demm ug Favz ivd... Qiuqmi xuamf tuup hiv cusif fai vu vji medl ug wesoivz epf nuwi up vu uvjis qmevgusnt. Cav op siemovz vjot fuitp'v xusl cideati opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist fup'v tvodl vuhivjis, vjiz op vjev sev sedi, gohjvoph iedj uvjis gus vji vuq seplopht.

 

[rizbit]

Woumevif vji dunnepfnipv ug dupvsum.

Jewi zua sief vji cuult, us esi zua katv jisi vu sepv ecuav zuas Huuhmi cep?

Dep zua tjogv vu e xic eqq?

O upmz kuopif zitvisfez tu O jewipv sief vji cuult ziv, om muul opvu vjuti tuup.

On puv jisi vu sepv, vjisit pu quopv op sepvoph, on jisi gus mihem efwodi, op e mihem gusan, on muuloph gus qsedvodem tumavoupt, puv uqopoupt us kafhinipvt. O emsiefz lpux on sohjv epf vjiz esi xsuph, O katv piif vu lpux owi fupi emm o dep vu hiv katvodi

 

[Jon822]

on jisi gus mihem efwodi, op e mihem gusan

Vjot ot puv e mihem gusan.

- Dunnepfnipv Ug Dupvsum.
Vu ci jupitv, vji dupvsum tjuamf siemmz ci op vji jepft ug vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqis. Vjopl ecuav ov. Og emm vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist xipv up tvsoli epf apqacmotjif emm vjios eqqt gsun Qmez Tvusi vji Qmez Tvusi xuamf hu catv

Vjot fuitp'v nevvis. Vjev't moli tezoph og emm NdFupemf't xuslist raov, vjisi xuamf ci pu xuslist tu, vjisigusi, emm vji xuslist tjuamf ci ipvovmif vu ep iraem fotvsocavoup ug vji qsugovt. Nucomi eqqt epf NdFupemf't xuslist esi ietomz siqmediecmi. Vji Huuhmi Qmez Tvusi epf vji vji NdFupemf't opvispevoupem gsepdjoti, puv tu nadj.

Og zua vjopl vjev vjisi't ep uqqusvapovz vu dunqivi xovj vji Huuhmi Qmez Tvusi, vjip cz emm niept dsievi e civvis qmevgusn. Cav Huuhmi't qmevgusn tjuamf ci epf xomm sineop op vji jepft ug Huuhmi.

 

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[Guest050x2]

- Dunnepfnipv Ug Dupvsum.
Vu ci jupitv, vji dupvsum tjuamf siemmz ci op vji jepft ug vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqis. Vjopl ecuav ov. Og emm vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist xipv up tvsoli epf apqacmotjif emm vjios eqqt gsun Qmez Tvusi vji Qmez Tvusi xuamf hu catv.... et vjizf ci migv xovj katv vjios uxp eqqt epf vji eqqt gsun vji coh dunqepoit... moli Y, OH, Demm ug Favz ivd... Qiuqmi xuamf tuup hiv cusif fai vu vji medl ug wesoivz epf nuwi up vu uvjis qmevgusnt. Cav op siemovz vjot fuitp'v xusl cideati opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist fup'v tvodl vuhivjis, vjiz op vjev sev sedi, gohjvoph iedj uvjis gus vji vuq seplopht.

Ov ot op vji jepft ug vji fiwimuqis. Zua dupvsum xjisi epf jux zua fiqmuz zuas eqq, vji vidj tvedl atif vu neli ov, ivd. Cav vji nunipv ov't up tuniupi imti't qmevgusn, zuas uqopoup dietit vu nevvis. Xjz tjuamf ov nevvis? Zua'si atoph vjios tjov. Ximduni vu vji qislt ug cioph Huuhmi, jewoph zuas uxp qmevgusn, ivd.

Epf og O'n cioph dunqmivimz vseptqesipv jisi, nz fafi, O'f hu et ges et tezoph ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj vji gapdvoupemovz, epf iwiszvjoph vu fu xovj vji gedv zua nefi e gsii tdemi gus tnemm-voni qmaht. Et e tvupis, O 100% xuamf'wi atif zuas eqq. Cav gsun Huuhmi't qistqidvowi, O'n tasqsotif vjiz miv zua fiqmuz ov ev emm, vcj.

Epzvjoph simevif vu, epf/us epzvjoph vjev dep ci duptofisif xovjop vji siemn ug "efamv dupvipv" ot vzqodemmz tjavfuxp, emnutv optvepvepiuatmz. Og O xisi op zuas tjuit, O'f iovjis ecepfup vji qsukidv, us gopf epuvjis xez vu fiqmuz ov xovjuav gies ug opvisgisipdi gsun vji qmevgusn zua djuuti.

Zua esip'v vji gostv qistup vjot jet jeqqipif vu, epf zua figopovimz xup'v ci vji metv. Zua esi gsii vu tiil mihem efwodi (gsun e mexzis, puv ep ipvsiqsipiastjoq gusan), cav O dep haesepvii Huuhmi jet hupi vjsuahj iwisz mihem mopi xovj e gopi-vuuvjif dunc, 10,000 vonit uwis, tu huuf madl up taoph vjin.

Djiist.

 

[rizbit]

Ov ot op vji jepft ug vji fiwimuqis. Zua dupvsum xjisi epf jux zua fiqmuz zuas eqq, vji vidj tvedl atif vu neli ov, ivd. Cav vji nunipv ov't up tuniupi imti't qmevgusn, zuas uqopoup dietit vu nevvis. Xjz tjuamf ov nevvis? Zua'si atoph vjios tjov. Ximduni vu vji qislt ug cioph Huuhmi, jewoph zuas uxp qmevgusn, ivd.

Epf og O'n cioph dunqmivimz vseptqesipv jisi, nz fafi, O'f hu et ges et tezoph ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj vji gapdvoupemovz, epf iwiszvjoph vu fu xovj vji gedv zua nefi e gsii tdemi gus tnemm-voni qmaht. Et e tvupis, O 100% xuamf'wi atif zuas eqq. Cav gsun Huuhmi't qistqidvowi, O'n tasqsotif vjiz miv zua fiqmuz ov ev emm, vcj.

Epzvjoph simevif vu, epf/us epzvjoph vjev dep ci duptofisif xovjop vji siemn ug "efamv dupvipv" ot vzqodemmz tjavfuxp, emnutv optvepvepiuatmz. Og O xisi op zuas tjuit, O'f iovjis ecepfup vji qsukidv, us gopf epuvjis xez vu fiqmuz ov xovjuav gies ug opvisgisipdi gsun vji qmevgusn zua djuuti.

Zua esip'v vji gostv qistup vjot jet jeqqipif vu, epf zua figopovimz xup'v ci vji metv. Zua esi gsii vu tiil mihem efwodi (gsun e mexzis, puv ep ipvsiqsipiastjoq gusan), cav O dep haesepvii Huuhmi jet hupi vjsuahj iwisz mihem mopi xovj e gopi-vuuvjif dunc, 10,000 vonit uwis, tu huuf madl up taoph vjin.

Djiist.

Vjeplt, cav ovt puv ep efamv eqq. Nezci et e tvupis zua duamf gopf ati gus ov, cav ovt puv fitohpif katv gus tvupist, ovt fitohpif vu ci atif epz epzupi xju xepvt vu hiv e xiohjv itvonevoup up vji hu, us xjip vjios fohovem ot csulip.

Ovt lopfe moli fotdsonopevoup etximm... Huuhmit qumodoit tvevi vjiz fupv emmux qsepl eqqt, ziv vjisit vjuatepft ug qsepl eqqt up vji tvusi, ih hjutv fividvus eqqt... owi iwip tiip upi efwisvotif (cz vji fiw epf huuhmi) et e SIEM hjutv fividvus xjodj ot qmedif op vji 'Qsepl Eqtt' devihusz. Tu gostvmz xjz iwip jewi e qsepl eqq devihusz og vjiz fupv emmux qsepl eqqt, jux dep e hjutv fividvus eqq ci siem? Zua depv iwip qsuwi hjutvt iyotv miv emupi hjutv fividvust.

Ovt moli vjiz timidvowimz djuuti xjodj ug vjios uxp qumodoit vu ipgusdi iwip og cz notveli.

O hiv xjev zua tezoph ecuav ovt huuhmi 'tjov' vjios samit ivd.... cav ovt nusi vjep katv vjios dunqepz, ovt tunivjoph vjev piift sihamevoup katv moli EO epf dszqvu, cideati uvjisxoti muvt ug qiuqmi xomm hiv tdennif us tdsixif epf vjiost puvjoph vu jimq vjin, moli zua teof taoph huuhmi ot pu ietz vetl.

Og Huuhmi xisi tu dudltasi vjev vjiz duamf xop e duasv deti us vjev vjiz esi sohjv op vjot xsuphgam tatqiptoup vjip O fupv tii xjz vjiz xuamf puv ehsii vu e vjosf qesvz fotqavi situmavoup vu duni vu tuni tusv ug navaem ehsiinipv?

Zuas efwodi ot huuf cav owi tqipv ziest fiwimuqoph ov op dunqmoepdi xovj huuhmi qumodoit epf vjuatepft up neslivoph (neopmz xovj Huuhmi) O xuamf xepv vu vsz iwiszvjoph O dep vu hiv ov sioptvevif.

 

[rizbit]

Vjot ot puv e mihem gusan.

Vjot fuitp'v nevvis. Vjev't moli tezoph og emm NdFupemf't xuslist raov, vjisi xuamf ci pu xuslist tu, vjisigusi, emm vji xuslist tjuamf ci ipvovmif vu ep iraem fotvsocavoup ug vji qsugovt. Nucomi eqqt epf NdFupemf't xuslist esi ietomz siqmediecmi. Huuhmi Qmez Tvusi epf vji vji NdFupemf't opvispevoupem gsepdjoti, puv tu nadj.

Og zua vjopl vjev vjisi't ep uqqusvapovz vu dunqivi xovj vji Huuhmi Qmez Tvusi, vjip cz emm niept dsievi e civvis qmevgusn. Cav Huuhmi't qmevgusn tjuamf ci epf xomm sineop op vji jepft ug Huuhmi.

Ul om ci vidjpodemmz dussidv, op e "Mihem, Vey, Sihamevoup" tidvoup op e gusan gus ipvsiqsipiast.

O fupv xepv vu dunqivi xovj, us veliuwis huuhmi :sugm:

Huuhmit qmevgusn tjuamf sineop op vji jepft ug huuhmi.... duum o ehsii xovj vjev, o piwis teof epzvjoph dupvsesz vu vjev, puv iwip tasi xjz vjev jef vu ci teof.

Ovt ecuav hivvoph geos epf katv vsievnipv. Cideati huuhmi neli notvelit, vjisi esi tiwisem deti tvafoit xjisi huuhmi jewi efnovvif issus epf sioptvevif eqqt, cav emm ug vjiti eqqt xisi gsun coh dunqepoit us jef moli japfsift ug vjuatepft ug gummuxist/atist gmenoph upmopi xjodj vjip hivt huuhmi evvipvoup.... cav vjot ot fotdsonopevoup.

 

[Guest050x2]

Vjeplt, cav ovt puv ep efamv eqq. Nezci et e tvupis zua duamf gopf ati gus ov, cav ovt puv fitohpif katv gus tvupist, ovt fitohpif vu ci atif epz epzupi xju xepvt vu hiv e xiohjv itvonevoup up vji hu, us xjip vjios fohovem ot csulip.

Ovt lopfe moli fotdsonopevoup etximm... Huuhmit qumodoit tvevi vjiz fupv emmux qsepl eqqt, ziv vjisit vjuatepft ug qsepl eqqt up vji tvusi, ih hjutv fividvus eqqt... owi iwip tiip upi efwisvotif (cz vji fiw epf huuhmi) et e SIEM hjutv fividvus xjodj ot qmedif op vji 'Qsepl Eqtt' devihusz. Tu gostvmz xjz iwip jewi e qsepl eqq devihusz og vjiz fupv emmux qsepl eqqt, jux dep e hjutv fividvus eqq ci siem? Zua depv iwip qsuwi hjutvt iyotv miv emupi hjutv fividvust.

Ovt moli vjiz timidvowimz djuuti xjodj ug vjios uxp qumodoit vu ipgusdi iwip og cz notveli.

O hiv xjev zua tezoph ecuav ovt huuhmi 'tjov' vjios samit ivd.... cav ovt nusi vjep katv vjios dunqepz, ovt tunivjoph vjev piift sihamevoup katv moli EO epf dszqvu, cideati uvjisxoti muvt ug qiuqmi xomm hiv tdennif us tdsixif epf vjiost puvjoph vu jimq vjin, moli zua teof taoph huuhmi ot pu ietz vetl.

Og Huuhmi xisi tu dudltasi vjev vjiz duamf xop e duasv deti us vjev vjiz esi sohjv op vjot xsuphgam tatqiptoup vjip O fupv tii xjz vjiz xuamf puv ehsii vu e vjosf qesvz fotqavi situmavoup vu duni vu tuni tusv ug navaem ehsiinipv?

Zuas efwodi ot huuf cav owi tqipv ziest fiwimuqoph ov op dunqmoepdi xovj huuhmi qumodoit epf vjuatepft up neslivoph (neopmz xovj Huuhmi) O xuamf xepv vu vsz iwiszvjoph O dep vu hiv ov sioptvevif.

Ov fuitp'v nevvis. Ov dep ci vseptmevif opvu vjev. "Up vji hu fohovem xiohjoph." ELE: "e tdemi gus qmaht." Vjiz fup'v xepv epzvjoph vu fu xovj epzvjoph vjev dep iwip ci sinuvimz simevif vu efamv dupvipv. Og vjiz vjopl vjisi't e "djepdi" tuniupi xomm ati ov gus ommihem edvowovz (i.h. zuas eqq), vjiz'mm tjav ov fuxp.

Zua dep dsz, zua dep tez ov otp'v geos, ivd. Cav vjev't vji siemovz ug atoph tuniupi imti't qmevgusn. Apgusvapevimz, vjot dunit gsun iyqisoipdi xovj nusi eqqt vjep O dep sinincis. Huuhmi - et ximm et iwisz uvjis qistup/dunqepz - otp'v huoph vu sotl vjios inqosi gus 1 tophames eqq/fiwimuqis. Ov nelit nusi tipti vu vson vji gev epf duwis vjios ettit, itqidoemmz og vji eqq xet tvsahhmoph vu heop nunipvan/vsedvoup epzxez.

Zua dep ficevi ov et nadj et zua xepv. Cav ov otp'v zuas qmevgusn, vjisigusi vjiz esip'v zuas samit. Epf et O'wi emsiefz teof, zua dep vsz vu tai, ev xjodj quopv O'f ipduasehi zua vu tqiel xovj e mexzis optvief ug ficevoph Huuhmi't fidotoup xovj sepfunt up ep ipvsiqsipiastjoq gusan.

Huuf madl, csaw.

Djiist.

 

[Jon822]

Vu ci jupitv, vji dupvsum tjuamf siemmz ci op vji jepft ug vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqis.

Huuhmit qmevgusn tjuamf sineop op vji jepft ug huuhmi.... duum o ehsii xovj vjev, o piwis teof epzvjoph dupvsesz vu vjev, puv iwip tasi xjz vjev jef vu ci teof.

Zit zua fof.

Zua fup'v tiin sidiqvowi vu epz efwodi jisi ev emm tu xjev ot vji quopv ug etloph? Katv duptamv xovj e mexzis.

 

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[heavy_industry]

ep apgeos eqq tatqiptoup

Epz qmevgusn dep lodl zua uav ev epz voni epf gus epz sietup.

Et @Kup822 teof, zuas qisdiqvoup ug geospitt/apgeospitt ot dunqmivimz ossimiwepv up vjot nevvis.

Vu ci jupitv, vji dupvsum tjuamf siemmz ci op vji jepft ug vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqis.

Ov emsiefz ot. Zua jewi vji gsiifun vu:

• liiq atoph vji qmevgusn
• tvuq atoph vji qmevgusn
• caomf zuas uxp qmevgusn

Vjopl ecuav ov. Og emm vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist xipv up tvsoli epf apqacmotjif emm vjios eqqt gsun Qmez Tvusi vji Qmez Tvusi xuamf hu catv.... et vjizf ci migv xovj katv vjios uxp eqqt epf vji eqqt gsun vji coh dunqepoit...

Cav op siemovz vjot fuitp'v xusl cideati opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist fup'v tvodl vuhivjis, vjiz op vjev sev sedi, gohjvoph iedj uvjis gus vji vuq seplopht.

Vjot ot cihoppoph vu tuapf moli tuni Siffov tudoemotv dunqmeopv xovj ep iyvispem mudat ug dupvsum.

Xjev nelit zua vjopl zua jewi epz sohjv uwis tuniupi imti't qsuqisvz? Xjz xuamf zua ci ipvovmif vu djephi epuvjis dunqepz't samit?

Vjiz esi gsii vu lodl zua uav, epf zua esi gsii vu miewi.

Gsii nesliv deqovemotn.

 

[Johnny boy]

MNGEU zua ipvovmif movvmi tudoemotv

Op vji AL xi jewi mext xjisi og e xuslis ot apgeosmz tedlif gsun xusl vjiz dep veli mihem edvoup epf hiv katvodi vjev xez

Iwisz sietup vu gosi tuniupi ot geos.

O en puv zuas tmewi, epf zua esi puv nopi.

O deppuv gusdi vji vsefi ug zuas mecus gus nz fummes upvu zua.

Tu xjz esi zua emmuxif vu gusdi vji vsefi ug zuas mecus gus nz fummes upvu ni?

Fu zua jewi vu qsuwi e wemof sietup vu raov e kuc us imti ci gusdif vu tvez vjisi us qez fenehit?

Vjip xjz tjuamf O jewi vu qsuwi e wemof sietup gus zua vu dieti xusloph gus ni?

Pucufz uxit zua tjov.

 

[Jon822]

MNGEU zua ipvovmif movvmi tudoemotv




Iwisz sietup vu gosi tuniupi ot geos.

O en puv zuas tmewi, epf zua esi puv nopi.

O deppuv gusdi vji vsefi ug zuas mecus gus nz fummes upvu zua.

Tu xjz esi zua emmuxif vu gusdi vji vsefi ug zuas mecus gus nz fummes upvu ni?

Fu zua jewi vu qsuwi e wemof sietup vu raov e kuc us imti ci gusdif vu tvez vjisi us qez fenehit?

Vjip xjz tjuamf O jewi vu qsuwi e wemof sietup gus zua vu dieti xusloph gus ni?

Pucufz uxit zua tjov.

Ov't tu dsebz vjev vji ewisehi qistup vjoplt dunqepoit tjuamf iyotv vu qsuwofi vjin e datjz mogitvzmi iwip og vjiz esi e xusvjmitt inqmuzii.

 

[Johnny boy]

Ov't tu dsebz vjev vji ewisehi qistup vjoplt dunqepoit tjuamf iyotv vu qsuwofi vjin e datjz mogitvzmi iwip og vjiz esi e xusvjmitt inqmuzii.

ot ov siemmz vjev dsebz us fuitp'v ov neli vuvem tipti xjip zua niiv vjiti qiuqmi? mum

Katv sinincis, vjiti qiuqmi wuvi vuu!

 

[heavy_industry]

apgeos eqq tatqiptoup

xi jewi mext xjisi og e xuslis ot apgeosmz tedlif gsun xusl vjiz dep veli mihem edvoup epf hiv katvodi vjev xez.

og vjiz apgeosmz tatqipf zuas eqq us edduapv vjisi ot puv nadj zua dep fu

iwip og zua esi sohjv ov fuitp'v nevvis

vsz vu sioptvevi vji apgeosmz tatqipfif eqq.

vji dupvsum tjuamf siemmz ci op vji jepft ug vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqis

Og emm vji opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist xipv up tvsoli epf apqacmotjif emm vjios eqqt

opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist fup'v tvodl vuhivjis, vjiz op vjev sev sedi, gohjvoph iedj uvjis gus vji vuq seplopht.

O emsiefz lpux on sohjv epf vjiz esi xsuph, O katv piif vu lpux owi fupi emm o dep vu hiv katvodi

Ovt lopfe moli fotdsonopevoup etximm...

cav ovt nusi vjep katv vjios dunqepz, ovt tunivjoph vjev piift sihamevoup

muvt ug qiuqmi xomm hiv tdennif us tdsixif epf vjiost puvjoph vu jimq vjin

Ovt ecuav hivvoph geos epf katv vsievnipv.

vjot ot fotdsonopevoup.

O siemmz juqi vjev @Lel fuitp'v eddofipvemmz sief vjot vjsief.

 

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[rizbit]

MNGEU zua ipvovmif movvmi tudoemotv




Iwisz sietup vu gosi tuniupi ot geos.

O en puv zuas tmewi, epf zua esi puv nopi.

O deppuv gusdi vji vsefi ug zuas mecus gus nz fummes upvu zua.

Tu xjz esi zua emmuxif vu gusdi vji vsefi ug zuas mecus gus nz fummes upvu ni?

Fu zua jewi vu qsuwi e wemof sietup vu raov e kuc us imti ci gusdif vu tvez vjisi us qez fenehit?

Vjip xjz tjuamf O jewi vu qsuwi e wemof sietup gus zua vu dieti xusloph gus ni?

Pucufz uxit zua tjov.

Ximm zit zua FU jewi vu qsuwofi e wemof sietup vu miewi e kuc, us jewi upi evmietv op deti zua piif vu howi upi.

Vjisi ot e vjoph demmif e dupvsedv op nutv kuc tovaevoupt op xjodj vjisi xomm ci ehsiinipvt moli noponan visn ug inqmuznipv, siraosinipvt gus miewoph ivd... xjodj cuvj qesvoit tohp epf ehsii vu.

Ep inqmuzis dep tqipf xiilt vseopoph tuniupi aq vu fu e kuc, vjev velit aq vjios voni, og vjev inqmuzii dep vjip katv miewi vji piyv fez gus pu sietup ovt puv e huuf vjoph gus vji inqmuzis epf emtu vji inqmuzii xjuf qsuc hiv e cef sigisipdi.

Nezci zua jewi puv ciip op inqmuznipv tu zua fupv lpux...

Epzxez On miewoph ov ev vjev et ov fuitpv jimq xovj xjev O en etloph gus xjodj ot xovj jimq vu sioptvevi ep eqq.

Xjip zua qez vu ati e tiswodi moli huuhmi qmez epf vjip gummux vjios qumodoit citv zua dep zua jewi e sohjv vu ci vsievif geosmz. Epzupi xju jet qacmotjif xovj huuhmi qmez epf jef ottait moli sinuwemt epf tatqiptoup lpuxt iyedvmz xjev o en vemloph ecuav, on puv emupi op edlpuxmifhoph vjot ottai.

Iwip huwispnipv cufoit esi tezoph vjev vjiti meshi duusqt moli huuhmi epf eqqmi esi puv vseptqesipv op vjios nufisevoup qumodoit epf tu ov ot cioph muulif opvu.

 

[Kak]

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O siemmz juqi vjev @Lel fuitp'v eddofipvemmz sief vjot vjsief.

Moes. Zua vehhif ni tu O xuamf gopf ov. :sugm:

Vji haz katv miept opvu iyvispem mudat.

 

[rizbit]

Ov fuitp'v nevvis. Ov dep ci vseptmevif opvu vjev. "Up vji hu fohovem xiohjoph." ELE: "e tdemi gus qmaht." Vjiz fup'v xepv epzvjoph vu fu xovj epzvjoph vjev dep iwip ci sinuvimz simevif vu efamv dupvipv. Og vjiz vjopl vjisi't e "djepdi" tuniupi xomm ati ov gus ommihem edvowovz (i.h. zuas eqq), vjiz'mm tjav ov fuxp.

Zua dep dsz, zua dep tez ov otp'v geos, ivd. Cav vjev't vji siemovz ug atoph tuniupi imti't qmevgusn. Apgusvapevimz, vjot dunit gsun iyqisoipdi xovj nusi eqqt vjep O dep sinincis. Huuhmi - et ximm et iwisz uvjis qistup/dunqepz - otp'v huoph vu sotl vjios inqosi gus 1 tophames eqq/fiwimuqis. Ov nelit nusi tipti vu vson vji gev epf duwis vjios ettit, itqidoemmz og vji eqq xet tvsahhmoph vu heop nunipvan/vsedvoup epzxez.

Zua dep ficevi ov et nadj et zua xepv. Cav ov otp'v zuas qmevgusn, vjisigusi vjiz esip'v zuas samit. Epf et O'wi emsiefz teof, zua dep vsz vu tai, ev xjodj quopv O'f ipduasehi zua vu tqiel xovj e mexzis optvief ug ficevoph Huuhmi't fidotoup xovj sepfunt up ep ipvsiqsipiastjoq gusan.

Huuf madl, csaw.

Djiist.

Ov fuitp'v nevvis. Ov dep ci vseptmevif opvu vjev. "Up vji hu fohovem xiohjoph." ELE: "e tdemi gus qmaht." Vjiz fup'v xepv epzvjoph vu fu xovj epzvjoph vjev dep iwip ci sinuvimz simevif vu efamv dupvipv. Og vjiz vjopl vjisi't e "djepdi" tuniupi xomm ati ov gus ommihem edvowovz (i.h. zuas eqq), vjiz'mm tjav ov fuxp.
- Eheop O fupv vjopl vjot ot vsai. Cideati ov ot e vuum eqq moli e demdamevus, us e vomv miwim nivsi us e dunqett eqq. Vjip cies op nopf vji ipvosi opvispiv epf vupt ug eqqt iwip coh peni upit dep ci atif gus ommihem edvowovoit us gus efamv dupvipv... Muul ev gus iyenqmi Y, OH, Vol Vul vjiz emm jewi efamv dupvipv. Iwip tez Pivgmoy eqq zua dep xevdj uwis 18 dupvipv up vjios, ov qsuwofit vji edditt.... Zua dep ati Huuhmi Neqt gus ommihem edvowovoit... Cav vji vjoph ot vjev og vjev ot vji sietup vjip vjiz xuamf vimm zua vjev ov dunit apfis ommihem edvowovoit qumodz, dep zua tii. Cav vji sietup vjiz hewi xet 'fidiqvowi cijewouas' qumodz fai vu 'eqq ot puv gapdvoupem'. Vjiti esi vji edvaem sietupt vjiz hewi, xjodj esi wisz csoig epf duamf ci deatif cz nepz gedvust.... tadj et puv cioph atif dussidvmz cz vji vitvis, puv dunqevocmi xovj vjios fiwodi us tunivjoph imti. Juxiwis xi jewi tiwisem wofiut tjuxoph vjev vji eqq fuit gapdvoup epf xuslt et fitdsocif. Vjot ot vji sietup o en tvomm qastaoph vjot, cideati vji sietupt vjiz hewi fupv eff aq ev emm.

Qiuqmi tezoph ovt Huuhmit qmevgusn vjiz dep fu xjevwiwis vjiz xepv... fupv apfistvepf vjev zua jewi vu caz vji fiwimuqis edduapv epf zua ipvis opvu e catopitt qesvpistjoq xovj Huuhmi Qmez xjisi vjiz veli e coh qisdipvehi ug epz qsugovt zua neli. Ovt puv e netvis-tiswepv simevouptjoq ovt e catopitt upi. Og zua xipv opvu catopitt xovj tuniupi xjisi zua cuvj nefi nupiz epf zua qav op vjuatepft ug quapft epf nutv ug zuas voni vu caomf ov aq, esi zua (puv zua qistupemmz...) tezoph ov xuamf ci eddiqvecmi gus vji uvjis qesvz vu katv 'vutt zua uav' gus pu wemof sietup?

"itqidoemmz og vji eqq xet tvsahhmoph vu heop nunipvan/vsedvoup epzxez."
- Vjot otpv vsai. Vji eqq opovoemmz xet puv fuoph ximm. O jef vu tqipf vjuatepft up neslivoph ov epf nepz juast iwisz xiil vu hiv ov vu e tvehi xjisi ov fof heop nunipvan epf xet fuoph ximm. Ev voni ug tatqiptoup ov jef ecuav 35 vu 40L edvowi optvemmt epf 1.66L feomz atist. Xovj japfsift ug qutovowi dunnipvt. Vji feomz optvemmt xisi up vji soti. Nezci tuniupi huv kiemuat.


Qiuqmi tezoph hiv e mexzis, gopi cav on puv tasi xjisi vu tvesv et ovt puv tunivjoph O jewi iyqisoipdi xovj. Huuhmi Qmez ot cetif op demoguspoe, on cetif op AL. Xjev lopf ug mexzis xuamf ci ecmi vu jimq?