Just learn a little, if you fall in love with code do it.
If not, don't.
If not, don't.
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Free registration at the forum removes this block.I still don't understand why people here want to learn to code!
Spend that time learning to market and write sales copy. Spending 1000 hours to learn to code to spend 200 hours writing an app is STUPID.
Spend the 1000 hours learning to market and write copy, and you can use that skill for the life of the app, plus the life of the next app, and other peoples apps AND it makes you money. Writing code just means you have something, but it won't sell itself.
Here is how it will work if you learn to code:
1000 hours learning to code.
200 hours writing an app.
wait for a sale, wait some more, wait some more.
Spend 1000 hours learning to market and write copy.
sell some of your app
spend 150 hours fixing bugs and responding to support issues because your app is crap because it takes 5000 hours to really learn how to code.
get frustrated and yank your app because of the PITA factor and all the bad reviews of your app.
Learn to market and write copy:
1000 hours learning to market and write code, while that 1000 hours is going on, pay someone that has 10,000 hours of training on apps to write your app.
Start marketing your app immediately.
Sell lots of your app.
Pass any support issues to the developer
Sell lots more of your app.
Create 3 more apps and market the hell out of them
Go to the bank often to deposit checks.
Do you SEE the difference????
Just as an FYI I've been through the whole "Just hire someone" bullshit you've given advice for and from MY experience it's complete BULLSHIT.
I've been through so many subcontractors on FIVERR and UPWORK and ELANCE I could shit them out of my eyeballs and paid them so much money I could have founded my own google.
Your advise is shit. These subcontractors just care about making a bit of money on the side. Now, there might be some that are good, and you can find them from word of mouth, but just highering them off the bat they don't give a shit about you. They will take your money and run.
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And the common factor in those transactions is YOU. If you have joined the INSIDERS you can listen to my podcast on how to hire good workers off Elance so you don't get screwed. I almost always have 3-4 active outsourcing projects going and have for the last 8-9 years and have built a really good business on it.I've been through so many subcontractors on FIVERR and UPWORK and ELANCE I could shit them out of my eyeballs and paid them so much money I could have founded my own google.
Just as an FYI I've been through the whole "Just hire someone" bullshit you've given advice for and from MY experience it's complete BULLSHIT.
I've been through so many subcontractors on FIVERR and UPWORK and ELANCE I could shit them out of my eyeballs and paid them so much money I could have founded my own google.
Your advise is shit. These subcontractors just care about making a bit of money on the side. Now, there might be some that are good, and you can find them from word of mouth, but just highering them off the bat they don't give a shit about you. They will take your money and run.
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Now, this is absolutely not true. Being a really good programmer takes 48 hours a day, and the best ones in my experience want to work on cool problems at work and on their own stuff on the side without any schlep.The really really good ones are the ones who jumps out of the industry and build their own start ups, with the help of their friends in the business department.
So you can't make it work for you, but it's not your fault, it's the whole world who's lying to you. Maybe your attitude could have something to do with it?Just as an FYI I've been through the whole "Just hire someone" bullshit you've given advice for and from MY experience it's complete BULLSHIT.
I've been through so many subcontractors on FIVERR and UPWORK and ELANCE I could shit them out of my eyeballs and paid them so much money I could have founded my own google.
Your advise is shit. These subcontractors just care about making a bit of money on the side. Now, there might be some that are good, and you can find them from word of mouth, but just highering them off the bat they don't give a shit about you. They will take your money and run.
/end rant
I still don't understand why people here want to learn to code!
Here is how it will work if you learn to code:
1000 hours learning to code.
200 hours writing an app.
wait for a sale, wait some more, wait some more.
Spend 1000 hours learning to market and write copy.
sell some of your app
spend 150 hours fixing bugs and responding to support issues because your app is crap because it takes 5000 hours to really learn how to code.
get frustrated and yank your app because of the PITA factor and all the bad reviews of your app.
Do you SEE the difference????
Don't judge everyone by your standards, just because you didn't make it in 20 years doesn't mean that no one else will.
Here's another way it could go
Have an idea(s) for app
1000 hours learning to code
200 hours coding app
pay developers a hell of a lot less money than you would have had you not known shit, to tweak and/or finish your app
Sell some of your app
pay developers to fix bug issues
200 hours coding new app
repeat process
Sorry dude, made it, and made it, and made it, and still making more of it.
And exactly how many times have you executed this strategy successfully?
Have an idea(s) for app
1000 hours learning to code
200 hours coding app
pay developers a hell of a lot less money than you would have had you not known shit, to tweak and/or finish your app
Sell some of your app
pay developers to fix bug issues
200 hours coding new app
repeat process
Build capital until you are just concepting and other people are doing the developing.
Voila!
That's 1,200 hours building before you have anything to sell.
How many hours would it then take to sell what you've built (if it can be sold at all)?
Is there another way?
Getting stupid now. learn HOW TO SELL.
learning how to code is no different than learning how to build a house, or fix a car. if you learn these things, how many things can you do realistically? how can you leverage it ?
if you learn how to sell ice to the Eskimos. the world is your oyster.
Remember this. you can always raise more money, but you can never get more time.
you could learn how to code. make a program, then start selling. or you can pre sell your software, get some freelancer to do it, then give it them.
something to think about.
So what you're saying is the owner of this forum and the reason why we're here speaking to each other, was wrong when he wanted to start his limo aggregate website and didn't know how to code so he learned himself?
You are not skeptical, you are emotionally invested in being right. There is a difference.You can see why I'm sceptical as to your answer;
Sure, but would you get into constructions without knowing the difference between a nail and a screw? Would you start a new automobile company without knowing what a carburetor is?learning how to code is no different than learning how to build a house, or fix a car. if you learn these things, how many things can you do realistically? how can you leverage it ?
Im sure MJ would have gone a different strategy today if he started over.
You are not skeptical, you are emotionally invested in being right. There is a difference.
Do it your F*cking own way already.
Bet you $50 he wouldn't.
The speed of advancement is hard to grasp. If you go back 2-3 years in time, responsive frameworks were either very new or unheard of, big data, hadoop, and cloud based architectures didn't really exist. Go find a post that is 3 years old on designing for mobile devices and compare that to best practices now.What worked 10-15 years ago will not work today
No, but when you head down a road that very knowledgeable people tell you is a dead end or vastly more difficult than you perceive it to be, don't be surprised when you hit a dead end. And don't make crap up and tell everyone that is an alternative.Because that's a prerequisite for success, you have to have done it before, or someone else has had to have done it.
Bet you $50 he wouldn't.
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