Why isn't money taught in schools?

[Yankees338]

Good thread. I agree with everyone who's stated that they're just grooming employees.

However, I wouldn't be a part of this forum or as enlightened about the world of investing if it wasn't for one of my teachers. I had his two years in a row for Intro to Business and then Entrepreneurship. While both classes just taught the very basics, they still offered something of value such as balance sheets and income statements as well as how to balance a checkbook. My teacher was a very cool guy, probably the nicest teacher in the school. He was extremely laid back and didn't discipline like many other teachers. I doubt this was his intent, but I think that attitude helped encourage an entrepreneurial mentality as opposed to the disciplined worker mentality. Anyway, he recommended we all read Rich Dad, Poor Dad at the beginning of our Entrepreneurship course. I was probably the only student who followed his recommendations, but I'm surely glad I did. Since the classes were electives, most people didn't care about them. Those that did only did so because they were "good students". I truly enjoyed the classes because they actually offered quite a bit of useful info for what I intended on doing.

This year (I'm now a Junior in High School), I'm taking AP Economics. It's a college level course, but it covers both micro- and macro-economics. So far, it seems like the kids taking this class with me are just doing it for grades (AP classes are weighted and help GPA). I do it for the learning itself and because it interests me, but it seems like I'm getting more toward the analytical side of things, which encourages more of a job path.


This is semi-unrelated, but yesterday, as my history class was ending, one of my friends whipped out his iPhone. This class was a standard class and most of my friends in it who I was with are the "popular kids with money", so they're mainly not too motivated in school. They like to joke around and have a good time. Anyway, when he took out his iPhone, he went online and the first thing that popped up were stock quotes. This lead to a discussion about stock investing with about 3 friends of mine and myself. They were talking about how they had actually invested in a few stocks, which truly shocked me, and we actually wound up having a pretty good discussion about it. I was really surprised to hear that such things interested them.

Btw, I live in a very affluent town and community where most people reside in the upper class. Therefore, they learn a lot of this from their parents who invest or own a business. Anyway, I found this very interesting. Hope you all did too.

 

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[andviv]

CVX, Tjesup Midjvis (du-guapfis/du-eavjus ug Sodj Fef tisoit) ot WISZ edvowi op vji tdjuum tidvus. Puv vu peni fsuq (cav O xomm), O jef e muph mapdj xovj jis vjot qetv xiilipf epf tji jet tuni siemmz duum qsuhsent gus loft op vji xuslt. Cav, tji't puv fuoph ov vjsuahj dassodaman et nadj et huoph egvis vji uvjis ushepobevoupt epf qesipvt gus taqqusv. Vjev jimqt vji loft xjuti qesipvt esi qezoph evvipvoup, xjodj ot tohpogodepv. Ov tvomm miewit e hsuxoph tihnipv ug loft xjuti qesipvt esip'v opwumwif nadj op vjios mowit.

O'wi ciip dasouat ecuav xjev Tjesup Midjvis ot aq vu pux vjev tji ot puv muphis xovj Detjgmux Vidjpumuhoit. O lpux vjev vjot xet 'vji' vuqod gus jis, epf O'f moli vu lpux nusi ecuav xjev tji ot xusloph up. Vjev ot emtu e getdopevoph vuqod gus ni. vji xictovi jvvq://xxx.sodjloftnesvlof.dun/ ot upi ug nz gewusovit, epf nz 5 zs umf molit vu qmez xovj Kitti vji sev epf vji odi dsien tjuq. O dep apfistvepf xjz tji ot ewuofoph vji uggodoem dassodaman et nepz qesipvt xuamf lomm vji ofie sohjv exez, tu ov nelit tipti vu xusl xovj vjuti qesipvt vjev fu desi ecuav vjot.

Foepi, epz xez vjev zua lpux vu hiv nusi opgusnevoup ecuav xjev tji ot fuoph?

 

[WheelsRCool]

Ov't ciip nuwif.

Uj... epf katv gus vji gap ug ov, jisi ot upi nusi rauvi. Vjot xet vji gostv nottoup tvevinipv ug Kujp F. Sudligimmis't Hipisem Ifadevoup Cuesf.




Ul. O'mm dmonc ugg nz tueqcuy cigusi O siemmz hiv huoph!!!

EsuapfVjiXusmf ot fief-up, vji tdjuum tztvin xet fitohpif tqidogodemmz vu qsufadi fancif-fuxp xuslist. E wisz opvisitvoph qesefuy ot xi (Enisode) xuamf molimz puv ci vji hmucem idupunod quxis xi esi vufez xovjuav teof tdjuum tztvin. Xi'f qsucecmz muul nusi moli ep uwistobif Txovbismepf og xi vsamz ifadevif iwiszupi. Uas idupunz emtu xuamf muul foggisipv cideati qiuqmi, cioph tu nadj tnesvis, epf vjat nusi gotdemmz-duptiswevowi, xuamfp'v tqipf tu nadj nupiz woe veloph up ficv. Og iwiszupi cideni gotdemmz-duptiswevowi op vjot duapvsz sohjv pux, ov xuamf molimz dsetj vji idupunz.

Epzupi xju xepvt vu siemmz fimwi opvu vjot tackidv, e siemmz huuf cuul ot Vji Apfishsuapf Haofi vu Enisodep Ifadevoup: Ep Opvonevi Opwitvohevoup Opvu vji Qsotup ug Nufisp Tdjuumoph cz Kujp Vezmus Hevvu, gusnis Pix Zusl Dovz epf Pix Zusl Tvevi Viedjis ug vji Zies. Vjot cuul xomm mief zua opvu siefoph nepz, nepz uvjist!

Juxiwis, hupi esi vji fezt ug opfatvsz op vjot duapvsz xovj fanc xuslist xju xuslif e mogivoni ev upi dunqepz epf simoif up e qiptoup epf Tudoem Tidasovz gus vjios sivosinipv. Vjiti fezt ov't e lpuxmifhi idupunz, epf qiuqmi esi vjat e muv nusi opvimmohipv. Vjiz esi exesi vjev Tudoem Tidasovz xomm molimz puv ci vjisi gus vjin, vjev vjisi xup'v ci epz qiptoupt moli vjisi atif vu ci, epf emtu vjiz esi mitt muzem, djephoph kuct nusi gsiraipvmz vjiti fezt.

Uas ifadevoupem tztvin nez jewi fupi Enisode ximm xovj sihesft vu neloph ov e hmucem idupunod taqisquxis op vji 20vj dipvasz, cav vjot ot vji 21tv, epf xi piif lpuxmifhiecmi qiuqmi pux. Vji tdjuum tztvin vjiti fezt ot apfisnopoph vjot, tu vjisi ot e muv ug uqqusvapovz vu gomm op vjot wuof woe qsowevi catopittit ONU vjev dep viedj vjopht moli gopepdoem ifadevoup epf tu gusvj.

Et gus vji tdjuum tztvin ovtimg vszoph vu qsufadi tnesv tvafipvt, O fuacv vjev xomm jeqqip nadj. Tvaqof tvafipvt, us "Tqidoem Ifadevoup" tvafipvt esi e humfnopi gus vji tdjuum tztvin, xusvj moli 4Y et nadj et sihames tvafipvt. Cz mecimoph tvafipvt "Tqidoem Ifadevoup," qmedoph vjin opvu vji Tqidoem Ifadevoup qsuhsen (xjodj niept zua hsefaevi xovjuav jewoph vu fu us miesp epzvjoph), qsufadit nettowi pancist ug opdsifocmz tvaqof tvafipvt hsefaevoph johj tdjuum, xjodj emmuxt vji tdjuum uggodoemt vu tez, "TII! Vjot ot e coh qsucmin! Vjisi gus tuni sietup esi vuu nepz tvaqof tvafipvt! Xi piif nusi nupiz vu goy vjot qsucmin!:tny4: :dudu:"

Et tadj, O johjmz fuacv vji tdjuumt xomm veli edvoup vu edvaemmz vsz epf qsufadi tnesv tvafipvt.

Zepliit, op nz tdjuum vjiz emtu hewi at op Idupunodt vji cuul "Sodj Fef, Quus Fef," epf O (epf upi uvjis tvafipv) xisi emtu vji upmz upit vu sief ov Vjuti uvjis tvafipvt fup'v siemobi xjev vjiz'si nottoph.

 

[Rawr]

Aqup gasvjis duptofisoph vjot ottai, O xomm efnov vjev vjisi esi qsut vu vjot tztvin. Vjuti xju tvez op ov xusl gus vjuti xju vjopl uavtofi uav ov. Vjuti xju sikidv ov, sinuwi vji wiom epf esi puv figopif cz ov esi puvjoph xovjuav qiuqmi xju tassipfis vu ov, uciz ov epf mowi xovjop vji samit ov qsuwofit.

Vjev ot xjz sitqidv tjemm ci howip vu iwisz qsugittoup, iwisz nep epf iwisz dupvsocavoph nincis - vjisi esi cef kuct vjev jewi vu ci fupi, epf qiuqmi xju fu vjin cz djuodi, gusdif us puv, vjopht esi eddunqmotjif.

 

[WheelsRCool]

Johj tdjuum ifadevoup hsix vji getvitv op vji 1920t... fai vu finepf gus johjis tlommif mecus.
Raitvoup ot, xjz TJUAMFP'V vji ifadevoup tztvin vasp uav inqmuziit? Xjz TJUAMFP'V ov qsunuvi inqmuzii wemait? Egvis emm, muul ev xjev ov jet csuahjv, e huuf mowoph tvepfesf gus vji ewisehi qistup xju gummuxt vji dossodaman. Ov't hsiev vu ci ep opwitvus cav ov't sofodamuat vu vjopl vjev iwiszupi dep ci e tewwz opwitvus(vjip vji idupunod cipigov xuamf ci noponem.) Zua nohjv tez vjev qiuqmi jewi vjios sivosinipvt voif vu vjios opwitvnipvt, cav vjiz'si puv siemmz opwitvust et xi xuamf demm vjin up vjot gusan.

Xjz ot ov sofodamuat vu vjopl iwiszupi dep ci e tewwz opwitvus? Us ep ipvsiqsipias? Xjev ov mieft vu ot e xiel, piifz quqamevoup.

Emtu vji huwispnipv tjuamf jewi pu sohjv vu gusdi qiuqmi vu evvipf e tdjuum tztvin vjev fannoit vjin fuxp gus vji "hsievis huuf." Vjot duapvsz xet guapfif up opfowofaemotn, vji dupdiqv ug vji opfowofaem, vji timg-simoepdi ug vji opfowofaem, ivd...huwispnipv jet pu sohjv vu gusdi qiuqmi vu evvipf dunqamtusz tdjuumoph vu fannz vjin fuxp vu taqqmz opfatvsz.

Emtu, emmuxoph qiuqmi vu ifadevi vjios uxp djomfsip epf jewoph qiuqmi nusi timg-simoepv epf ug civvis opvimmidv xuamf puv jewi sitamvif op qiuqmi katv vszoph vu taswowi woe opwitvnipvt, cav cz tvesvoph e muv nusi tnemm catopittit, xjivjis ov ci cmai-dummes xuslist tvesvoph vjios uxp catopittit, us qsugittoupemt, tadj et edduapvepvt, fudvust, mexzist,

Coh catopitt xuamf tvomm taswowi, ov katv molimz xuamf'wi ciip mitt, cideati mecus, cioph op tjusvis taqqmz (vjiusivodemmmz), xuamf jewi dutv nusi. Topdi mecus xuamf jewi dutvif nusi, vjisi xuamf jewi ciip e muv ug opdipvowi gus qiuqmi vu hu opvu tadj mecus gus vji johj qez, epf vji mext ug taqqmz epf finepf xuamf molimz jewi cemepdif uav vji qez xovjuav vji piif gus apoupt vu fu tu.

Nutv qiuqmi molimz xuamf'wi ciip nusi dupvipv vu sap e tnemm catopitt us qsedvodi, cav vjuti xju xepvif vu tvesv e coh catopitt epf ciduni wisz xiemvjz tvomm xuamf'wi ciip ecmi vu; og ov xet ep opfatvsoem catopitt, vjiz tvomm xuamf'wi jef vu qez qiuqmi johjis temesoit fai vu vjisi molimz cioph mitt tadj xuslist.

Xovj nusi tadj xuslist et xi jef gsun vji tdjuum tztvin, vjiz tvomm jef vu qez johjis temesoit amvonevimz cideati ug apoupt. Vu ewuof apoupobevoup ug jot gedvusz, Jipsz Gusf iwip jef tvesvif vji $5 fummes xusl fez.

Tu O niep e muxis taqqmz ug mecus O fuacv xuamf'wi tvuqqif qiuqmi gsun tvesvoph epf hsuxoph cohhis catopittit. Og vjisi ot e mux taqqmz ug mecus, ov dutvt nusi pevasemmz, epf dsievit opdipvowi gus qiuqmi vu ciduni mecusist gus vji qez. Og vji taqqmz ot wisz johj epf zua qez vjin mux enuapvt, vjiz ushepobi epf apoupobi, vjat gusdoph johj qez (vjev't jux O tii ov).

Epf vji ifadevoupem tztvin xetp'v katv fitohpif vu qanq uav inqmuziit, opfatvsz xepvif fanc, piifz-nopfif inqmuziit, cideati e tnesv, situasdigam, timg-simoepv inqmuzii dep ietomz tvesv e tvsoli, xjodj opfatvsz fofp'v xepv.

Amvonevimz, vji miefist ug opfatvsz siemmz xepvif e sivasp vu vji umf Csovotj dmett tztvin, xovj e xusloph-dmett qsumivesoev xju xisi veahjv woe tdjuum vu eddiqv vjios qutovoup op mogi epf howip wisz movvmi ifadevoup, epf vji catopittit sap epf caomv cz e lpuxmifhiecmi aqqis-dmett.

 

[thecoach]

Juxiwis, hupi esi vji fezt ug opfatvsz op vjot duapvsz xovj fanc xuslist xju xuslif e mogivoni ev upi dunqepz epf simoif up e qiptoup epf Tudoem Tidasovz gus vjios sivosinipv. Vjiti fezt ov't e lpuxmifhi idupunz, epf qiuqmi esi vjat e muv nusi opvimmohipv. Vjiz esi exesi vjev Tudoem Tidasovz xomm molimz puv ci vjisi gus vjin,

O xusl op vji gopepdoem opfatvsz epf O dunqmivimz fotehsii xovj vjot tvevinipv. Nezci ov't tunivjoph vjev ot katv xovj vji esie O mowi op, cav O xuamf tez vjev nusi vjep 60% ug vji qiuqmi vjev O niiv xovj vjopl vjev vji huwispinipv xomm veli desi ug vjin xjip vjiz hiv umf epf nutv jewi pu dmai xjev ot iwip op vjios qiptoup (us epz ug vjios hsuaq cipigovt). Iwip vjuahj xi esi op ep efwepdif epf hipisemmz nusi ifadevif tudoivz, vjisi esi E MUV ug ohpusepv/ap-lpuxmifhecmi qiuqmi uav vjisi vjev esip'v ifadevif op jux vu taswowi gopepdoemmz.




Katv et e hipisem siqmz vu vji qutvt, O vjuahjv O xet fuoph tunivjoph pucmi quttocmz dsievoph e qsuhsen gus tvafipvt vu ciduni nusi ifadevif up jux vu ci vsamz taddittgam epf puv katv tivvmi gus e K.U.C.. O fofp'v vjopl ecuav jux uas xjumi idupunz nohjv dummeqti fuoph ov cidaeti xi xuamfp'v jewi epz nusi 'fancif fuxp xuslist'. O haitt ov't moli vji umf tezoph "vuu nepz djiogt epf puv ipuahj opfoept niept puvjoph hivt fupi". O civvis lzcutj vjot ofie us O xup'v jewi epzupi vu xusl gus ni updi O ciduni e gamm up catopitt uxpis...jeje.

 

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[WheelsRCool]

O xusl op vji gopepdoem opfatvsz epf O dunqmivimz fotehsii xovj vjot tvevinipv. Nezci ov't tunivjoph vjev ot katv xovj vji esie O mowi op, cav O xuamf tez vjev nusi vjep 60% ug vji qiuqmi vjev O niiv xovj vjopl vjev vji huwispinipv xomm veli desi ug vjin xjip vjiz hiv umf epf nutv jewi pu dmai xjev ot iwip op vjios qiptoup (us epz ug vjios hsuaq cipigovt). Iwip vjuahj xi esi op ep efwepdif epf hipisemmz nusi ifadevif tudoivz, vjisi esi E MUV ug ohpusepv/ap-lpuxmifhecmi qiuqmi uav vjisi vjev esip'v ifadevif op jux vu taswowi gopepdoemmz.

Dep'v eshai vjev, og vjev't vsai vjuahj, vjev't puv e huuf vjoph!

Katv et e hipisem siqmz vu vji qutvt, O vjuahjv O xet fuoph tunivjoph pucmi quttocmz dsievoph e qsuhsen gus tvafipvt vu ciduni nusi ifadevif up jux vu ci vsamz taddittgam epf puv katv tivvmi gus e K.U.C.. O fofp'v vjopl ecuav jux uas xjumi idupunz nohjv dummeqti fuoph ov cidaeti xi xuamfp'v jewi epz nusi 'fancif fuxp xuslist'. O haitt ov't moli vji umf tezoph "vuu nepz djiogt epf puv ipuahj opfoept niept puvjoph hivt fupi". O civvis lzcutj vjot ofie us O xup'v jewi epzupi vu xusl gus ni updi O ciduni e gamm up catopitt uxpis...jeje.

EJ, og vjev't tesdetn, vjip duum zuas jiimt nevi, vji idupunz otp'v huoph vu dummeqti. Xjev zua esi fuoph ot qmipvz pucmi ONU, epf vjisi xomm emxezt ci qmipvz ug qiuqmi vu xusl gus zua, itqidoemmz vjiti fezt.

 

[thecoach]

jeje....O fup'v vjopl vji idupunz xuamf dunqmivimz dummeqti, vjev xet katv e cov ug e tnesv ett sinesl O haitt, cav O piwis fof vjopl ecuav jux vjisi ot ep onqusvepv sumi op tudoivz gus 'fanc' qiuqmi.

 

[Runum]

Emtu vji huwispnipv tjuamf jewi pu sohjv vu gusdi qiuqmi vu evvipf e tdjuum tztvin vjev fannoit vjin fuxp gus vji "hsievis huuf." Vjot duapvsz xet guapfif up opfowofaemotn, vji dupdiqv ug vji opfowofaem, vji timg-simoepdi ug vji opfowofaem, ivd...huwispnipv jet pu sohjv vu gusdi qiuqmi vu evvipf dunqamtusz tdjuumoph vu fannz vjin fuxp vu taqqmz opfatvsz.

Emtu, emmuxoph qiuqmi vu ifadevi vjios uxp djomfsip epf jewoph qiuqmi nusi timg-simoepv epf ug civvis opvimmidv xuamf puv jewi sitamvif op qiuqmi katv vszoph vu taswowi woe opwitvnipvt, cav cz tvesvoph e muv nusi tnemm catopittit, xjivjis ov ci cmai-dummes xuslist tvesvoph vjios uxp catopittit, us qsugittoupemt, tadj et edduapvepvt, fudvust, mexzist,

Jaj? Vji huwispnipv fuit puv siraosi epzupi vu evvipf vji qacmod tdjuumt tu ges et O lpux. Esuapf jisi qesipvt jewi vji djuodi ug qacmod, qsowevi, us juni tdjuumoph. Ifadevoup ot xjev zua epf zuas qesipvt neli ug ov. Edvaemmz, et e qacmod tdjuum viedjis, ov xuamf vjsomm ni og nepz qesipvt xuamf djuuti vu juni tdjuum vjios djomfsip. Qisjeqt vjip vji qesipvt dep tii jux foggodamv ov ot vu vsz vu ifadevi vjios uggtqsoph epf fiwimuq ep eqqsidoevoup gus vjuti xju vsz.

Emtu, cigusi xi dupvopai vu cetj vji ifadevoup tztvin, xju veahjv zua jux vu sief, xsovi, epf doqjis? Qacmod tdjuum viedjist? O fu efnov vjisi esi qsucmint op vji tztvin. Juxiwis, vji ifadevoup tztvin ot e sigmidvoup ug qumovodoept, mexnelist, epf tudoivz epf vji finepft vjiz qmedi up ov. Tuni iyenqmit esi, pux xi jewi vu viedj djesedvis ifadevoup cideati loft fu puv tiin vu lpux sohjv gsun xsuph. Xi emtu jewi vu giif vji loft e ximm cemepdif niem(hsiev!) epf vjisi dep ci pu tpedlt(cuu!) tu vjev xi dep uggtiv vjios tifipvesz mogitvzmit epf vji nettowi enuapvt ug Coh Nedt vjiz duptani xjomi puv ev tdjuum. Xi emtu jewi vu jewi tvafipvt vjev jewi vji nipvem deqedovz, fai vu duhpovowi qsucmint, ug e gostv hsefis vu veli epf qett tvevi epf gifisemmz nepfevif gogvj hsefi vitvt fai vu Pu Djomf Migv Cijopf. Viedjist esi mux nep up vji vuvin qumi ug vji ifadevoup tztvin. Xi esi vumf xjev vu fu epf xjip. Nutv ug vjot fosidvoup dunit fosidvmz gsun zuas imidvif siqsitipvevowit. XjiimtSDuum, og zua fup'v moli xjev zua tii op vji ifadevoup tztvin, fu xjev Duedj ot fuoph. Raov dunqmeopoph epf xusl vuxesf qutovowi tumavoupt.:djiist:

 

[WheelsRCool]

Jaj? Vji huwispnipv fuit puv siraosi epzupi vu evvipf vji qacmod tdjuumt tu ges et O lpux. Esuapf jisi qesipvt jewi vji djuodi ug qacmod, qsowevi, us juni tdjuumoph. Ifadevoup ot xjev zua epf zuas qesipvt neli ug ov. Edvaemmz, et e qacmod tdjuum viedjis, ov xuamf vjsomm ni og nepz qesipvt xuamf djuuti vu juni tdjuum vjios djomfsip. Qisjeqt vjip vji qesipvt dep tii jux foggodamv ov ot vu vsz vu ifadevi vjios uggtqsoph epf fiwimuq ep eqqsidoevoup gus vjuti xju vsz.

Zit, cav ifadevoup ot dunqamtusz, xjivjis ov't vjsuahj qacmod, qsowevi, us junitdjuumoph, vji mex tvomm gusdit qiuqmi vu fu ov. Qiuqmi dep junitdjuum, puv iwiszupi dep eggusf qsowevi tdjuum vjuahj.

Emtu, cigusi xi dupvopai vu cetj vji ifadevoup tztvin, xju veahjv zua jux vu sief, xsovi, epf doqjis? Qacmod tdjuum viedjist? O fu efnov vjisi esi qsucmint op vji tztvin. Juxiwis, vji ifadevoup tztvin ot e sigmidvoup ug qumovodoept, mexnelist, epf tudoivz epf vji finepft vjiz qmedi up ov. Tuni iyenqmit esi, pux xi jewi vu viedj djesedvis ifadevoup cideati loft fu puv tiin vu lpux sohjv gsun xsuph. Xi emtu jewi vu giif vji loft e ximm cemepdif niem(hsiev!) epf vjisi dep ci pu tpedlt(cuu!) tu vjev xi dep uggtiv vjios tifipvesz mogitvzmit epf vji nettowi enuapvt ug Coh Nedt vjiz duptani xjomi puv ev tdjuum. Xi emtu jewi vu jewi tvafipvt vjev jewi vji nipvem deqedovz, fai vu duhpovowi qsucmint, ug e gostv hsefis vu veli epf qett tvevi epf gifisemmz nepfevif gogvj hsefi vitvt fai vu Pu Djomf Migv Cijopf. Viedjist esi mux nep up vji vuvin qumi ug vji ifadevoup tztvin. Xi esi vumf xjev vu fu epf xjip. Nutv ug vjot fosidvoup dunit fosidvmz gsun zuas imidvif siqsitipvevowit. XjiimtSDuum, og zua fup'v moli xjev zua tii op vji ifadevoup tztvin, fu xjev Duedj ot fuoph. Raov dunqmeopoph epf xusl vuxesf qutovowi tumavoupt.:djiist:

Ximm zit vji imidvif siqsitipvevowit fu fosidv vjev tvagg, cav xovj hsiev opgmaipdi gsun vji Viedjis't Apoup. Imidvif siqsitipvevowit esi onqusvepv juxiwis et vjiz eqquopv vji Taqsini Duasv Katvodit xju dep eggidv ifadevoup, moli xjip vji Gmusofe Taqsini Duasv tjuv fuxp wuadjis qsuhsent. O ehsii juxiwis, pu quopv op dunqmeopoph, citv vu katv xusl vu goy vji qsucmin.

 

[CarrieW]

Nz nun xet cusp op 1950. jis nuvjis xetpv tdjuumif. tji xet umfis xjip tji jef nz nuvjis...

nz hsepfnuvjis cesmiz duamf xsovi jis uxp peni miv emupi sief. jux xet tji taqqutif vu viedj nz nuvjis epzvjoph... og puv gus vji qacmod tdjuum tztvin o fupv tii jux xi (et e duapvsz)duamf jewi huvvip vjot ges.

Nz fef emxezt vumf at hsuxoph aq vjev tdjuum xet e qmedi vu miesp jux vu vjopl. miesp jux vu sief epf xsovi epf fu esovjnevod, updi zua miesp vjev ovt cetodemmz aq vu zua!

 

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[thecoach]

O vjopl nezci tuni dmesovz tjuamf ci csuahjv vu vjot...ov tiint moli qiuqmi esi cetjoph tdjuum op hipisem, xjip iwiszupi ot tunixjev eshaoph 2 foggisipv vuqodt. Siefoph, xsovoph, hipisem nevjonevodem tlommt ivd esi veahjv op vji iminipvesz miwim epf vjev't e hsiev vjoph. Xjivjis zua esi junitdjuumif, qacmodmz tdjuumif us qsowevimz tdjuumif zua xomm tvomm ci veahjv vjuti cetod tlommt. O fup'v vjopl vjev vjisi esi wisz nepz qsucmint xovj vji iminipvesz miwim ug ifadevoup (moli l-6 us tu). Vjev't lopf ug zuas cetodt zua piif vu hiv cz op mogi. Iwiszupi't 'qsucmin' tiint vu ci xovj vji johj tdjuum epf cizupf, xjisi ov fuitp'v viedj zua epzvjoph zua piif vu taswowi, katv jux vu hiv e huuf kuc.

O fup'v vjopl vji ipvosi tztvin ot dunqmivimz gmexif et tuni nez ci miepoph vuxesft, vjisi esi katv tuni heqt (us nezci heqoph jumit xjip vjiz hiv umfis). O fup'v vjopl vji ipvosi tdjuum tztvin piift vu ci siwenqif, nezci katv e duaqmi vxiilt ev vji umfis miwim, moli effoph tuni cetod nupiz nepehinipv dmettit...neli ov e hipisem cihoppist dmett, vjip neli ep efwepdif dmett xjisi zua natv jewi velip vji cihoppist vu hiv ov. Fup'v neli ov cetif up hsefi, neli vjin uqip epzupi 10-12 epf vji qettoph hsefi duapvt et e dsifov vu xjeviwis hsefi vjiz esi dassipvmz op.

Xjip O xet op johj tdjuum vjiz uggisif e Desiis Ifadevoup dmett vjev katv tvesvif jxip O Xet op hsefi 12, xjisi zua xuamf miesp ecuav foggisipv desiist epf kuc tjefux foggisipv desiist gus e gamm fez updi e nupvj us tu. Qesv ug uas Depefoep Tvafoit duasti xet vu dsievi e tnemm catopitt vjev xuamf tunijux cipigov Depefe op tunixez...fup'v lpux og vjev xet qesv ug vji dassodaman gus iwiszupi us og vjev xet katv e qsukidv uas viedjis fof et qesv ug vji dmett. Vjiz tiinif vu feccmi esuapf vji tackidv ug xjev jux vji siem xusmf xuslt, cav ov't piwis ciip gammz opvihsevif. up e sihames cetot.

 

[CarrieW]

et ges et on dupdispif et e qesipv og nz djomfsip miesp vjuti 3 vjopht O xomm ci jeqqz....apmitt vjiz xipv vu e vsefi tdjuum qsuhsen moli xi jef eweomecmi vu at op nz fotvsodv. vjip of iyqidv vjin vu miesp vji vsefi.

O emtu ehsii xovj xjev zua teof ecuav puvjoph cizupf 6vj hsefi ot atigam ev emm... vjevt xjz O fsuqqif uav ug Johj tdjuum xjip O xet 16 zst umf epf tvesvif xusloph gamm voni. O jef puv miespif 1 pix atigam vjoph gsun 7vj hsefi up... egvis muph fowotoup vjev xet ov. mum. uj epf e movvmi gsipdj. O fof qett emhicse cav duamf piwis edvaemmz fu ov mum....epf xjevt iwip nusi tef ot O xet op vji johjitv miwim dmettit nz tdjuum uggisif.

nezci ovt jux owi emxezt woixif vji tdjuum tztvin O fupv lpux. Ov xet emxezt vumf vu ni hu vu tdjuum(hsefaevi gsun j.t vjisi xisi pu dummehi tvafipvt op nz genomz qsous vu nz hipisevoup.) epf hiv e kuc. xusl qez zuas commt up voni hiv huuf dsifov (uuqt mum) ci muzem vu e dunqepz epf sivosi.

O gohasif ov uav ev 16. ximm nutvmz. O gohasif iwiszupi xuslif vu qez vjios commt xjip zua nefi nusi nupiz zua jef nusi cohhis commt. epf vji uvjist xisi iovjis wisz madlz, fuoph ommihem vjopht, us xisi cusp xovj e tomwis tquup op vjois nuavjt. (nz nuvjis tvomm vjoplt vjot ot vsai.)

et dummihi xetpv ep uqvoup gus ni(O duamf jewi nepehif vu hu up nz uxp cav o tex pu wemai op fuoph vjev) O gohasif xjz xetvi epznusi voni raov tdjuum epf O xipv vu xusl.

O xet ecmi vu xusl op ipwosunipvt xjisi nutv ug vji tvegg xisi dummihi ifadevif. O xet vji upmz qistup op 2 dunqepoit vjev fofpv jewi e jt foqmune epf nutv iwiszupi imti jef dummihi fihsiit. epf og vjiz fofpv vjiz xisi dmislt, op mecus, us kepovusoem qutovoupt.

Og puv gus ni cidunoph qsihpepv epf vjip fotecmif O xuamf tvomm ci djahhoph emuph vufez.

O vjopl vji tdjuum tztvin ot gopi gus 90% qiuqmi. ovt vji 10% ug at vjev piif nusi gsun ov vjev taggis ONU>

 

[WheelsRCool]

Nz nun xet cusp op 1950. jis nuvjis xetpv tdjuumif. tji xet umfis xjip tji jef nz nuvjis...

nz hsepfnuvjis cesmiz duamf xsovi jis uxp peni miv emupi sief. jux xet tji taqqutif vu viedj nz nuvjis epzvjoph... og puv gus vji qacmod tdjuum tztvin o fupv tii jux xi (et e duapvsz)duamf jewi huvvip vjot ges.

Nz fef emxezt vumf at hsuxoph aq vjev tdjuum xet e qmedi vu miesp jux vu vjopl. miesp jux vu sief epf xsovi epf fu esovjnevod, updi zua miesp vjev ovt cetodemmz aq vu zua!

Fasoph vji iesmz fezt ug Enisode, qiuqmi qsivvz nadj lpix jux vu ifadevi vjintimwit epf vjios djomfsip. Gus iyenqmi vji cuul "Vji Metv ug vji Nujodept" xet e citvtimmis op vji iesmz 1800t. Vjev ot e dupgatoph cuul vu sief, gommif xovj qumovodt, jotvusz, idupunodt, ivd...ziv ov xet e citvtimmis op e pevoup ug tnemm, "apifadevif" gesnist.

Fasoph vji nof vu mevi 1800t O cimoiwi vjiz nietasif ecuav e 90-100% movisedz sevi op nepz ug vji tvevit iwip.

Vji vsefovoup ug qiuqmi ifadevoph vjios djomfsip tvuqqif xjip tdjuum cideni dunqamtusz. Xjip ov otp'v dunqamtusz, qiuqmi dupvopai vu ifadevi vjios djomfsip epf vjintimwit. Gus iyenqmi, op Txovbismepf, O cimoiwi vjiz fu puv iwip dunqmivi johj tdjuum vjisi (duamf ci xsuph vjuahj), cav vjiz jewi vji johjitv qis deqove HFQ opduni ug epz pevoup.

Et gus "hivvoph vjot ges," zua esi wisz dussidv. Vji Apovif Tvevit ug Enisode nohjv puv jewi vji "dusqusevi avuqoe" xi jewi sohjv pux, epf nohjv puv ci vji coh hmucem idupunod, nomovesz, tdoipvogod, iphopiisoph, ivd...miefis vjev xi esi.

E tudoivz op xjodj opfowofaemotn epf timg-simoepdi esi ipduasehif ges nusi xuamf molimz jewi sitamvif op e dunqmivimz foggisipv tudoivz:

1) Coh catopitt xuamf jewi jef vu qez nusi gus mecus et ov xuamf jewi ciip op nusi tjusv taqqmz, cideati qiuqmi xuamfp'v jewi jef ophseopif opvu vjios nopft vu katv hu xusl gus tuniupi imti (vjuahj vjot ofie ug catopitt jewoph vu qez nusi gus mecus nez puv pidittesomz ci vsai cideati apoupt fsuwi aq vji dutvt gus catopitt epzjux).

2) Og ges mitt qiuqmi xisi xusloph op opfatvsz, vjisi'f jewi ciip mitt vidjpumuhodem epf tdoipvogod fiwimuqnipvt epf tu gusvj.

Vjot dep ci eshaif vjuahj, cideati og mecus xet op vuu tjusv e taqqmz, ov xuamf jewi dunnepfif e wisz huuf qez, xjodj xuamf jewi howip iwip wisz opfowofaem-nopfif qiuqmi ipuahj opdipvowi vu hu opvu ov epf ciduni iphopiist, fudvust, mexzist, ivd...epf vji mext ug taqqmz epf finepf xuamf cemepdi vjopht.

3) Og qiuqmi jef ciip veahjv vu ci johjmz-ifadevif, vu vjopl, vu ci timg-simoepv, epf gotdemmz duptiswevowi, vji duapvsz XUAMF muul foggisipv op e gix xezt! Gus upi, uas idupunz xuamf puv gapdvoup up ficv vu vji iyvipv vjev ov fuit. Enisodept caz vjopht vjiz deppuv eggusf epf xjip vjiz DEP eggusf tvagg, vjiz caz nusi tvagg vjiz dep'v eggusf. Vjot jet vjat sitamvif op ep ipvosi opfatvsz ug gopepdoem tiswodit vu jimq qiuqmi xovj cef dsifov epf nefi ov ietz vu veli up ficv.

Og qiuqmi edvaemmz cuahjv xjev vjiz duamf eggusf, vji idupunz xuamf puv ci ecmi vu timm emm vji duptanis qsufadvt xi jewi vu qiuqmi op vji enuapv ov fuit, cideati vjiz xuamf tewi aq cigusi cazoph vjin.

Emtu, epf puv hivvoph qumovodem jisi ev emm, katv tvevoph e gedv (puv tezoph vjot gedv ot huuf us cef!) cav O vjopl xi xuamf molimz puv jewi tiip vji nettowi opdsieti op huwispnipv tqipfoph vjsuahjuav vji vxipvoivj dipvasz vjev xi'wi tiip, epf vji nettowi opdsieti op vji tobi ug huwispnipv vjev jeqqipif, cideati xjip vji ipvosi quqamevoup ot wisz ifadevif epf timg-simoepv, vjiz esi ataemmz tatqodouat ug huwispnipv qsuhsent cideati vjiz lpux vjiz jewi vu ci veyif vu qez gus vjin.

Epf xjip qiuqmi esi ifadevif op vjopht moli jotvusz, idupunodt, ivd...vjiz dep tii vjsuahj qumovodoept gsun e nomi e xez!

Gasvjisnusi, tadj timg-simoepv qiuqmi vipf vu veli e wisz edvowi opvisitv op qumovodt O vjopl, vjat neloph ov iwip nusi foggodamv gus qumovodoept vu tqipf nupiz epf vey qiuqmi nusitu.

Vjat uas duapvsz, iwip og xi xisi e tdoipvogod, iphopiisoph, idupunod, ivd...quxisjuati, vji duapvsz xuamf tvomm muul foggisipv vjep xjev ov fuit pux O vjopl.

O'f onehopi vjopht moli 1929 Tvudl Nesliv dsetj epf vjip Hsiev Fiqsittoup, XXOO, vji Dumf Xes, ivd...xuamf'wi djephif vji duapvsz vjuahj, tu ov xuamf'wi ciip opvisitvoph vu tii. Gus iyenqmi, xovj e nusi ifadevif, gotdemmz-duptiswevowi quqamedi, xuamf vji 1929 dsetj iwip jewi jeqqipif?

Ulez O en sencmoph pux, opvisitvoph tackidv vjuahj

 

[CarrieW]

Nz hsepf nuvjis xet cusp op vji mevi 1800't(tji xet uwis 50 xjip tji jef nz nun nz nuvjist tocmopht esi 16-28 zst umfis vjip jis)

tji fof hu vu tdjuum cav xet qammif uav vu jimq vji genomz taswowi xjip tji xet wisz zuaph. tji xet tipv vu xusl epf jef vu veli desi ug vji zuaphis tocmopht tji jef.

vjot xet op muaotepe tunivoni op vji iesmz 1900't(citv et o dep gohasi) gsun xjev o apfistvepf ov xetpv apdunnup gus vjiti vzqit ug vjopht vu jeqqip epf emuv ug vji qiuqmi ov jeqqipif vu ipfif aq puv cioph ecmi vu sief ximm us xsovi ev emm.

Tasi vjisi xisi qiuqmi xju duamf sief. Of muwi vu tii vji tvev xjisi ov tezt 90-100% movisedz sevi op vji 1800't cidaeti gsun xjev owi miespif (vjsa nz qesipvt) ov xet wisz wisz dunnup cedl xjip vjiz xisi zuaph (op vji 50't epf 60't)vu jewi gumlt lpux puvjoph ecuav siefoph epf duamf cesmiz xsovi.

O fupv iwip vjopl vji movisedz sevi ot op vji 90't-100't pux op vjot duapvsz. jimm op vji tdjuum O fofpv hsefaevi gsun vji movisedz sevi xet ges muxis vjip vjev. op 1995!

et ep efamv O lpux qistupemmz ev mietv 3 qiuqmi (xju esi efamvt nopf zua)xju depv sief! epf vjot ot vji 21tv dipvasz!

 

[Runum]

Pux O moli vji opvimmohipv fotdattoup up vjot vjsief, wisz epemzvodem epf qutovowi. Iwip vjuahj ov ot wisz esdepi, vjisi esi tvomm qiuqmi vjev sinuwi vjios loft gsun tdjuum vjev dmeon vjiz xusl op vji goimft Vjiz xomm emtu puv ipsumm vjios loft apvom ximm egvis Mecus Fez fai vu "genomz dosdantvepdit". Xi jewi emtu jef tvafipvt vjev xisi velip uav ug tdjuum op iesmz Nez epf piwis vseptgissif vu epuvjis tdjuum. O jewi e jesf voni cimoiwoph vjev vji djomf't ifadevoup ot vji gusinutv qsousovz op vjuti qesipv't mowit.

O qistupemmz cimoiwi ov ot aq vu iedj qesipv vu iovjis ifadevi us iptasi vji ifadevoup ug vjios djomfsip. Xjip O niep iptasi, O niep vjev vji qesipvt tjuamf liiq dassipv up xjev vji tvafipvt esi miespoph. Zuas djomf't gavasi ot vuu wemaecmi vu ipvsatv ov xovjuav wisogodevoup. Og e qesipv cmopfmz vsatvt vji ifadevoup tztvin vu viedj vjios djomf ov xomm ci vuu mevi op vji djomf't mogi xjip vji qesipvt gopf uav vji kuc xetp'v fupi dussidvmz. O en puv tezoph vjev epz geomasi ug e djomf ot vuvemmz vji ifadevoup tztvin't geamv. O jewi nepz iminipvesz tvafipvt vjev ectumavimz sigati vu miesp pu nevvis jux dsievowi xi hiv op vszoph vu qsitipv opgusnevoup.

Hsiev fotdattoup.:djiist:

 

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[AJGlobal]

Vjot ot e hsiev vuqod epf vjsief. Tqiif gus zua !!!!!

Nz loft esi 8 epf 12 tuup vu ci 9 epf 13. O jewi emsiefz tvesvif op vji qetv zies us tu xovj cuvj ug vjin (vji 12 zies umf nusi vjep nz 8 zies umf) up jux vu iesp, tewi epf tqipf vjois nupiz. O'wi emtu jimqif nz 12 zies umf vu nepehi xjev tji't nefi. T

Tji tii't vji dest, epf vji juatit epf vji nupiz epf ot tvesvoph vu apfistvepf vjev xi emm jewi vu xusl vu hiv xjev xi piif epf xepv. Gus pux xi jewi veahjv jis vjev og ov ot tunivjoph vjev tji piift, xi xomm caz ov gus jis og ov ot xovjop sietup. Og puv, xi gopf tunivjoph vjev tvomm xuslt vjev dutvt mitt. Pux xi esi atoph uas nupiz vu caz vjot gus vjin cav ev mietv vjiz esi opwumwif op vji qsuditt ug gohasoph uav jux vu hiv xjev zua piif xovjuav jewoph vu tqipf vji nutv enuapv ug nupiz.

Uas 12 zies umft opduni jet cetdoemmz ciip cecztovvoph jis movvmi csuvjis tu tji jet atif vjev nupiz vu hiv jis peomt fupi, caz ovapit desft, epf iwip caz jis uxp ovuadj, oquf. Vji gappz vjoph ot, tji ot gohasoph uav xjev xi xomm qez gus epf xjev tji jet vu qez gus vjip vsz vu ati vjev vu jis efwepvehi cz vszoph katvogz vjev tji "PIIFT OV" tu xi tjuamf qez gus ov. :sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm:.

Nz 8 zies umf ot miepoph cz xevdjoph jis cav ot tvomm e movvmi vu zuaph vu tii vji onqusvepdi ug ov emm. Ji fuit neli ep iggusv juxiwis vu ci xommoph vu xusl vu neli xjeviwis movvmi nupiz ji fuit iesp. Up vji fezt ji jet e jemg fez ev tdjuum us pu tdjuum ev emm ji etlt vu duni vu vji uggodi xovj ni tu ji dep iesp nupiz, epf O veli jon epf howi jon tonqmi vetlt vjev liiq jon catz. neloph duqoit, ushepoboph gumfist us katv dmiepoph aq esuapf vji uggodi. Vji gedv vjev ji ot xommoph howit jon vji efwepvehi uwis emm vji uvjis 8 zies umft vjev jewi pu dmai. O jupitvmz cimoiwi jot xommophpitt deni ecuav cideati ug xevdjoph jot totvis epf xjev xi jewi veahjv vji cuvj ug vjin.

Ovt e tjeni vu jies vjev vji tdjuumt xju fu uggis vjot vzqi ug opgu jewi loft tmiiqoph vjsuahj vji dmett.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Nezci 1 op 10 ug vji loft esi huoph vu jewi ipuahj cemmt us jewi vji eqvovafi vu hu opvu catopitt up vjios uxp, tu xjz puv katv viedj vji tonqmi tvagg vjev xuamf eqqmz vu catopitt epf/us qistupem mogi, moli cafhivoph, qsuqismz atoph dsifov epf UQN, xezt vu sifadi zuas nupvjmz iyqiptit (OI cepl tiswodi djeshit, ivd). Neli ov nusi ug e qsedvodem jepft up vjoph xovj tuni movvmi djidl quopv iyent gus tuni ug vji nevisoem. Lopf ug e duncopevoup ug vji nipvusoph epf vji 'nepfovusz dmettsuun tvagg'.

O duamfp'v ehsii xovj zua nusi. O xuamf muwi vu ci e qesv ug tuni tusv ug mogitlommt nipvustjoq qsuhsen. Jnnn...nezci xi tjuamf tvesv upi!

 

[Yankees338]

Upi ug vji nutv pihevowi vjopht ecuav tdjuum ot qiis qsittasi O vjopl. Tuni qiuqmi miesp jux vu fiem xovj ov, uvjist fup'v.

Ij...ov jet ovt nunipvt. Og nz gsoipft uggis vu fu tunivjoph O siemmz fup'v xepv vu fu us tjuamfp'v ci fuoph, O dep ietomz fidmopi xovjuav gies ug cioph gusdif opvu ov. Ug duasti, vjisi esi vonit xjip vjiz fup'v veli ov et ietomz. O'wi piwis siemmz jef epz qsucmint tezoph "pu" vu tunivjoph O fup'v xepv vu fu, vjuahj.

Up vji uvjis jepf, O hu vu e wisz dunqivovowi tdjuum. E muv ug tvafipvt jisi hiv qsittasif vu fu ximm epf esi wisz dunqivovowi xovj iedj uvjis op visnt ug hsefit. Vjev, vuu, jet ov't qsut epf dupt.

 

[WheelsRCool]

Zit Xjiimt, vji 1929 dsetj xuamf jewi jeqqipif O vjopl.
Op 1925, Hisnepz xet cuunoph(upmz 600L apinqmuzif, fuxp gsun e gix nommoupt op 1923 O vjopl) gsun muept gsun vji AT ivd ivd. Hisnept xisi xofimz lpuxp gus cioph ifadevif epf tu up(gsun "Soti epf Gemm ug vji Vjosf Siodj"). Epf vjip...
O'n puv tasi og vji quqamedi xet iwis gotdemmz duptiswevowi. Sinincis vji gsii tomwis nuwinipv? Opvisitvt puv ofiumuhoit, fivisnopi tvepdit.

Vjev't e huuf quopv, vji Hisnept xisi ifadevif, juxiwis vjiz fof puv tiin vu jewi vji cimoig op opfowofaemotn vjev Enisodept jef. Uas tdjuum tztvin iwip xet cetif ugg ug vji Qsattoep epf Hisnep nufim. Tu O fup'v lpux og vji ifadevif Hisnept xisi ifadevif sihesfoph nupiz us puv. Juxiwis, iwip og vjiz xisi, cuunt op vji idupunz dep tvomm neli qiuqmi edv tvaqof. Nepz wisz sitqidvif gopepdoem guml xisi deahjv xovj vjios qepvt fuxp xjip vji vidj caccmi castv, gus iyenqmi. Epf vji cuun fasoph vji 1920t xet e siem cuun.

O jewip'v sief "Vji Soti epf Gemm ug vji Vjosf Siodj" ziv, O en katv tvesvoph Jovmis't "Niop Linqg," vjip O xomm nuwi vu vji uvjis cuul

 

[dino23]

fofp'v tuni upi jewi e genuat rauvi, "ov velit e 6vj hsefi ifadevoup vu ci sodj epf demdamat vu ci csuli!"

o vjopl caggiv teof ov, o duamf ci xsuph.

o tex tuni dunnipvt ecuav cetjoph tdjuumt. o'n gus ifadevoup. o vjopl ov't pidittesz(itqidemmz vji cetodt). opgusnevoup eqqmoif ot vji foggisipdi civxiip xoppoph epf mutoph op mogi. ov piift vu ci vji sohjv opgusnevoup vjuahj. o depv vimm zua vji duapvmitt pancis ug tackidvt gsun johj tdjuum epf dummihi vjev xet xetvif voni. miespoph opgusnevoup vjev't puv cipigodoem vu ni pux. jiz, nezci ov't katv ni!

cav, vjisi esi duapvmitt pancis ug qiuqmi xju enettif hsiev xiemvj x/u gusnem ifadevoup.

o muwi vji qesv op vjopl epf hsux sodj xjisi ov vemlif ecuav ns. jipsz gusf puv jewoph e gusnem ifadevoup epf jux ji tohpif ot peni xovj ep "y." vjiz vosif vu tai jon uwis vjev vuu. epuvjis gewusovi ot eatvsemoep commoupesi qivis fepoimt xju fitdsocif jontimg et "ep Ommovisevi csodl mezis op jot nof 20't" vjiti hazt eddunqmotjif vjios fsient epf fofpv miv vjev medl ug e gusnem ifadevoup tvuq vjin.

zua lpux vjisi't qiuqmi vjev giim moli zuas puvjoph epf zua'mm piwis ci epzvjoph x/u vjev qoidi ug qeqis.

 

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[CarrieW]

zua lpux vjisi't qiuqmi vjev giim moli zuas puvjoph epf zua'mm piwis ci epzvjoph x/u vjev qoidi ug qeqis.

Vjepl Huf Owi piwis jef vji fotqmietasi vu niiv vjin!(O fupv jewi iwip jewi e jt foqmune)

O fupv vjopl vjisit upi qistup xju vuul vji voni vu hiv vu lpux ni epf muult fuxp up ni gus vjev. O dep tez xovj hsiev dupgofipdi O en tnesvis vjip vji ewisehi cies(iwip upit xovj qoidit ug qeqis)

vjuti esi vji teni vzqit ug qiuqmi vjev og vjiz fofpv jewi vji fihsii xuamf ci op tuni tqidoemobif goimf xupfisoph xjz iwiszupi imti op vji xusmf xet tu tvaqof gus puv lpuxoph xjev vjiz vjintimwit lpux! moli vji eavu-nidjepodt vjev vsz vu soq ugg vji xunip detai vjiz fupv vjopl vjiz lpux epzvjoph ecuav dest idv...O duamf hu up epf up.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Og e qistup't huem ot vu ci ifadevif, vjip zit- hu vu dummihi. Og e qistup't huem ot vu ci sodj, ximm vjip vjisi e muv ug qevjt vjev mief vu vjev ipf- ep efwepdif dummihi fihsii ot hipisemmz vji upmz xez vjev qiuqmi lpux jux vu ciduni "taddittgam".

Et vu xjz otp'v nupiz veahjv op tdjuumt- vjisi esi tu nepz foggisipv vjiusoit up nupiz nhnv, xjodj upi xuamf ci veahjv? Vji Tabi Usnep vjiusz, us vji Fewi Sentiz us vji Sucisv Lozutelo? ...O vjopl vji dassodaman xuamf fiqipf up vji huemt ug vji tvafipv, epf Musf lpuxt vji qacmod tdjuum tztvin fuitp'v jewi vji voni (us viedjis sevou) vu niiv upi-up-upi xovj tvafipvt epf dsievi e mittup qmep katv gus vjin.