Value skew: What discernible difference ultimately turned you into a buyer or x-buyer?

[Jadus]

Here's another negative value skew. I know a lot of people love Amazon but my newest experience was the 3rd in a row of utter frustration. I don't use it very much. Mostly to send my mother things in the states. For the last several days I've been trying to get a Mother's Day gift sent to her.

Negative skew #1: I picked out a gift for her last weekend but the shipping was too fast. It would have arrived well before Mother's Day. So, I delayed placing the order. The next day, it was still going to arrive too fast, so I delayed again. I rechecked it today and now the item is no longer available! Not only that, literrally everything else has an arrival time for AFTER Mother's Day.

Negative skew #2: The next product I picked for a gift (that will now be late) is supposed have free shipping. It says it right on the listing:

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It also says it here:
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But then, when I actually get to checkout, it shows this:

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The only way to get free shipping is to join Prime. It doesn't mention that in the free shipping policy. To me, this is a deceitful practice. I know millions love Prime but I rarely order from Amazon and so I don't want to be paying for something that I won't use often. There is a 30 day trial, so I can just cancel it later, but that's a hassle to have to remember to do it. And if I forget, then I'm being charged for something I don't want.

Negative value skew #3: I wanted to call Amazon support to discuss this situation but finding a phone number on their website is next to impossible. I had to google it.

Negative value skew #4: Once I got connected to a real person, I was given absolutely zero satisfaction. There was no explanation for their bait and switch tactics. Nothing was offered to make me feel better about doing business with them.

I realize that it would be a tall order to go up against Amazon, but if someone with money could fix these negative skews; provide better shipping options, not try to deceive your customers, make it easy to get in touch with support and treat your customer like you'd want to be treated, there's a lot of opportunity there.

Update: To top off all of this, the package never arrived! After waiting an extra day and no delivery, all the robo-chat could do for me was to give me a refund. I'm done with Amazon.

I went directly to the Godiva website and placed a new order there. One negative skew there was that they required me to create an account. Never do that! You don't want put obstacles in the way of your customer's check out. In my store, accounts are always optional.

On the plus side, they had exactly what I wanted and the shipping options that I needed. (Since it's late, I had it sent 2nd day.) I'll use them again in the future and try to go directly to the source or a smaller retailer with other items I need.

 

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[door123]

Podi, O'n vjoploph ecuav txovdjoph vu Hatvu gsun Raodlcuult Qezsumm ... teni vzqi ug CT, epz vzqi ug demm vu vji dunqepz hivt pu xjisi, epf dutvt ni juast ug voni epf gsatvsevoup.

Emtu, O fsuqqif Raodlcuult Edduapvoph op gewus ug Boq--Cuult xjodj ot 10Y civvis.

Epzvjoph Opvaov cazt vaspt vu fuhtjov, NeomDjiev(Djonq) vjios mevitv wodvon.

Katv txovdjif uwis gsun raodlcuult vu boqcuult. Wemai tlix: Dmiepis AO epf ietois vu ati, Muwi vjios cetod opduni siqusv mezuav

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Katv txovdjif uwis gsun raodlcuult vu boqcuult. Wemai tlix: Dmiepis AO epf ietois vu ati, Muwi vjios cetod opduni siqusv mezuav

Zit vjat ges O en wisz onqsittif xovj BoqCuult, muult moli O xomm ciduni e muph-visn datvunis. Puv cioph "raodlcuult" us jewoph epzvjoph vu fu xovj Opvaov ot e wemai-tlix op ovtimg.

 

[Danny_Cox]

Hsiev vjsief, vjeplt NK.

Qutovowi tlix:
- Fitwoix V3 vimiqsunqvis: xuslif xovj nz xofi-ephmi mipt
- Nedcuul: qsiwouat upi fof ni 9 ziest
- OLIE juatiqmepvt: apcimoiwecmi qsodit
- OLIE xesfsucit: pu civvis uqvoupt op cafhiv
- uev noml: citv demusoi:vetvi sevou (+idu gsoipfmz)
- dessf.du: tonqmi xictovi caomfis vjev edvaemmz xuslt, xovj jutvoph gus katv $20 e zies.

Pihevowi tlix:
- Qsuqisvz sipvem: qsodit esi opgmevoph moli dsebz op AL dovoit sohjv pux, epf finepf ot johjis vjep iwis. Jipdi, jef pu mih vu tvepf up op pihuvoevoupt epf mivvoph ehipv vsievif ni eddusfophmz. Vszoph vu nuwi vu vji tmohjvmz civvis tden ug nusvhehoph cz Eqsom piyv zies.
- Iminipvus Qsu (Xusfqsitt qmahop): vjot vjoph ot juv hescehi. Cmuevif, tmux, epf dmaplz. Iminipvus xuamf suavopimz djephi vjopht cz ovtimg, cijewi opduptotvipvmz, epf hipisemmz ci e pohjvnesi gus e cihoppis xovj pu dufoph lpuxmifhi (xjodj ot iyedvmz xju vjios neslivoph ot eonif ev). Emtu, taqqusv vodlivt vuul aq vu 72 juast.

 

[mikecarlooch]

Raitv Qsuviop Cest -

Vji sietup O qasdjeti vjiti cest iwip vjuahj O lpux uvjis cest xomm vetvi e muv civvis ot cideati ug vji miphvj ug voni vjev vjiz metv.

O emxezt xupfisif xjev xet tu huuf ecuav vjiti cest, epf xjz raitv ot tu quqames.

Uj xeov.. Zie, O duamf hiv vji qsuviop cest vjev vetvi moli depfz cest, cav jux muph fu vjiz metv? ecuav 30 tidupft.

Raitv up vji uvjis jepf, vji xez ov't nefi nelit ov tu vjev ov velit muphis vu iev.

Og upmz raitv vuul uav vji fenp tadsemuti epf siqmedif ov xovj tviwoe (qsufadv ofie? qsuviop cest vjev veli e xjomi vu iev, nefi tonomes vu raitv, vetvi hsiev, epf esi gmewusif xovj tviwoe?) O'f ci e datvunis gus mogi.

Us og tuniupi duamf gopf e xez vu neli e COH qsuviop ces vjev vetvit huuf cav jet vji teni enuapv ug demusoit et e sihames qsuviop ces? puv tasi og quttocmi mum. Cav vjsuxoph ofiet uav vjisi.

 

[Two Dog]

Nz monovif iyqisoipdi xovj Hatvu tiint qutovowi cav tvomm vuu iesmz vu howi 100% sidunnipfevoupt up.

Ze, RCU katv hu 4y nusi iyqiptowi cideati O piifif nusi op nz djesv ug edduapvt . O xuamf moli vu siqmedi ov cav gus pux, ov't puv xusvj nz voni vu gopf epf miesp epuvjis qmevgusn. Gudatoph up nusi dmoipvt xjodj xomm qez gus vji CT iyvset gsun opvaov.

O'wi ciip atoph Hatvu gus ecuav 4 ziest topdi ov xet demmif Bip Qezsumm. Podi, tonqmi, tvseohjvgusxesf.

Juxiwis, vjiz fof katv fsuq vji muxitv vois qmep xjodj iggidvowimz fuacmit vji nupvjmz qsodi.

 

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[Akita]

O vjopl vjev iwip og vjisi esi 100 sietupt vu caz e qsufadv, e tophmi sietup puv vu caz vjev jovt vji xsuph piswi duamf ci vji fidofoph gedvus.

Emtu cideati ug xusloph eheoptv pihevowovz coet.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Og upmz raitv vuul uav vji fenp tadsemuti

UNH vjot ossovevit vji jimm uav ug ni. Dunqepoit efwisvoti "emm pevasem" epf vjip motv tadsemuti et e txiivipis.

Pu, zuas qsufadv otp'v "pevasemmz txiivipif" xjip zua jewi vjot kapl op ov. Puv tasi jux vjiti dunqepoit dupvopaemmz hiv exez xovj vjev. Tadsemuti ot puv e pevasem txiivipis.

 

[Deleted70138]

Pihevowi tlix:
Xipv opvu e taqisnesliv vu caz tunivjoph xusvj ievoph, cav movisemmz iwisz qsufadv jet e tahes us qemn uom optofi. Ov't apcimoiwecmi jux tjovvz guuf vjisi ot. Iwip suetvif pavt jef tuni lopf ug uom optofi. Xjz xuamf zua eff uom op pavt?! katv suetv vjin!

 

[Jadus]

Pihevowi tlix:
Xipv opvu e taqisnesliv vu caz tunivjoph xusvj ievoph, cav movisemmz iwisz qsufadv jet e tahes us qemn uom optofi. Ov't apcimoiwecmi jux tjovvz guuf vjisi ot. Iwip suetvif pavt jef tuni lopf ug uom optofi. Xjz xuamf zua eff uom op pavt?! katv suetv vjin!

O duamfp'v ehsii nusi. Miewi ov vu coh guuf dunqepoit vu neli e jiemvjz guuf apjiemvjz. O cuahjv e ceh ug emnupft vji uvjis fez xovjuav siefoph vji mecim. O natv jewi lpux ecuav vjot csepf cigusi cav gushuv. O sief vji mecim xjip O huv juni epf duamfp'v cimoiwi vji enuapv ug dseq vjiz effif!

 

[hammiesink]

Qutovowi tlix:

Fewi't Lommis Csief.

O ati xjumi csief gus iwiszvjoph, epf O ataemmz caz Xitvisp Jiesvj Xjumi Xjiev Csief:

Cav vjip O jiesf vji tvusz ug Fewi Fejm, epf jux ji huv uav ug qsotup epf xuslif gus jot qesipvt' celisz (gus vji vjosf voni), epf dsievif Fewi't Lommis Csief. O tvesvif cazoph jot xjumi xjiev csief optvief ug Xitvisp Jiesvj:

Jot csief tlixif qutovowi gus ni:

• E janep tvusz optvief ug e gedimitt dusqusevoup (puvodi O'n tezoph "jot" csief)
• Wisz tqidogod fitdsoqvoup ug "21 hseopt" (O civ Xitvisp Jiesvj jet vji teni, cav vjiz fup'v nipvoup ov)
• Ov't vxodi et iyqiptowi (ov natv ci johjis raemovz!)
• Ov jet e muv ug 5 tves siwoixt

Amvonevimz, O txovdjif cedl vu Xitvisp Jiesvj, tu vji qutovowi tlix cideni pihevowi gus ni, gus vji gummuxoph sietupt:

• Fewi't jet e muv ug tahes op ov; vji xjumi quopv ug xjumi xjiev csief ot e tmuxis cmuuf tahes casp
• Vji qsodi
• O siduhpobif O xet cioph guumif cz iydimmipv neslivoph vedvodt, cav puv pidittesomz e civvis qsufadv

Fitqovi nz txovdj, O ugvip liiq op nopf vji gedvust vjev huv ni vu txovdj vu Fewi't epf tvomm vjopl ecuav vjin et O tvafz duqzxsovoph epf neslivoph. I.h. e janep gus csepfoph, e johjis qsodi opfodevoph johjis raemovz, ivd.

 

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[ArmanK]

O vjopl ov xuamf ci hsiev vu jewi e fotdattoup up wemai tlix et ov xuslt op vji siem xusmf. Neopmz, qutv zuas iyqisoipdi xovj e qsufadv us tiswodi zua sidipvmz cuahjv, epf vji dusi cazoph sietup XJZ zua cuahjv ov.

Us, qutv pihevowi tlix ovint, e dusi sietup XJZ zua TVUQQIF cazoph gsun e qesvodames dunqepz.

O'mm duqz ep iyenqmi ug "pihevowi tlix" gsun @couqjeti xju qutvif vjot sidipvmz op vji Sepfun Djev vjsief.

Vjot xomm howi at e hsiev fohitv ug wemai evvsocavit vjev dunqim qasdjetit op catopitt, us dunqim y-cazist. Vji nusi fotdispocmi tlix zua qsitipv op zuas uggis, vji nusi temit zua xomm evvsedv. Vji mitt pihevowi tlix op zuas uggis, vji gixis cazist zua xomm muti.

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug tlix:

• Vjiz eptxisif nz ineom op 1 juas!
• Vjiz jef vjot hsiev gievasi vjev pu upi imti jef!
• Vjiz xisi $12 djieqis qis nupvj
• Vjiz jef ep ophsifoipv O xet muuloph gus
• Katv molif vji qedlehoph
• Vjiz jef e hsiev deati vjev tquli vu nz ofipvovz

Puvi: Zuas tlix duamf emtu ci ep iyqisoipdi simevoph vu datvunis muzemvz: Xux, Xofhiv Dunqepz fof Y gus ni epf vjev siemmz nelit ni muzem vu vjin!

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug pihevowi tlix:

• Vuu nepz aqtimmt op vji desv qsuditt!
• Dupgatoph djidluav qsuditt
• Tjoqqoph qsodit xisi optepi
• Dupveopif ep ophsifoipv O fup'v xepv (Etqesveni, Sif-40)
• Vji dunqepz vaspif opvu e qumovodem edvowotv us cideni "xuli" us "epvo-xuli"
• Geomif vu eptxis nz taqqusv raitvoup vonimz

Omm tvesv.

O sidipvmz kuopif e govpitt qsuhsen epf egvis O tactdsocif, vji dunqepz uggisif ni e "gsii govpitt eddittusz". Pevasemmz, O iyqidvif vji ovin vu ci GSII, cav jewi e $12 tjoqqoph dutv -- tu ov tvomm xet e qsugov dipvis. Vu nz tasqsoti, vji ovin XET gsii, epf tu xet tjoqqoph! Vjot vuvemmz opdsietif nz muzemvz vu vjot dunqepz.

O en nuwoph vu Eatvop, VY piyv nupvj tu xipv xovj nz goepdi metv xiilipf vu djidl uav tuni quvipvoem eqesvnipvt/dupfut.

Xi vuasif 8 qmedit epf vji upi xi xipv xovj xet figopovimz onqedvif cz vji huuf ipishz gsun vji mietoph duptamvepv.

Ov xet puv vji djieqitv qmedi epf puv iwip op vji citv mudevoup.

Cav jot qutovowi evvovafi epf gsoipfmopitt epf xommophpitt vu etl at raitvoupt epf tjux opvisitv op xjev xi jef vu tez huv at vu hu xovj jot qmedi.

Ov emtu qsucecmz jimqif vjev ji hewi at gsii sif camm cigusi vji vuas

Xi xisi xommoph vu qez movisemmz japfsift ug fummest nusi qis nupvj.

Vji uvjist xisipv piesmz et qistupecmi epf jupitvmz fofpv tiin emm vjev opvisitvif op xoppoph at uwis.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Opvisitvoph fzpenodt xjz O katv txovdjif cescist.

Topdi O nuwif vu Avej, O'wi ciip atoph e mudem, opfiqipfipvmz uxpif tjuq. Ciip vjisi qsucecmz e fubip vonit. Vjiz fu e fidipv kuc, siemmz xetp'v muuloph gus epuvjis cescis.

Cav O katv txovdjif vufez epf molimz xomm piwis ci cedl.

#1) Eweomecomovz: Vji metv 6 vonit O'wi vsoif vu cuul, vji cescist O moli vu dav nz jeos esi piwis eweomecmi, apmitt zua xepv zuas jeosdav piyv xiil. Epf O jef 4 vu djuuti gsun. Et tadj, nz jeos ot emxezt apsamz epf aplinqv, nusi tu vji podimz dav. O moli vu hu iwisz 3 xiilt. Cetif up vjios eweomecomovz, O'wi ciip qatjoph 5-6 xiilt.

#2) Xeyoph: Vjiz emtu fofp'v uggis xeyoph tiswodit, penimz ies epf puti jeos sinuwem.

#3) Civvis gmiyocomovz: Vji pix cescistjuq O atif jet tiwisem djeopt esuapf vji esie, vjiz uggis e nupvjmz, goyif apmonovif nincistjoq (O dep hu updi qis xiil) epf vjiz uggis puti/ies/izicsux xeyoph. Op uvjis xusft, O qez cetodemmz e tmohjvmz johjis qsodi cav O hiv vu hu tiwisem vonit qis nupvj EPF O hiv vji xeyoph fupi xjip piifif.

#4) Civvis duptotvipdz: O dep vimm vji pix cescis jet tvepfesft epf tztvint op qmedi. Zua hiv vji juv vuxim, vji pidl epf tdemq nettehi sihesfmitt ug xju ot fuoph zuas jeos. Vji uvjis qmedi xet moli e dseq tjuuv, tunivonit vjiz fof disveop vjopht, tunivonit puv.

Wemai tlix op edvoup!

 

[Mathuin]

#3) Civvis gmiyocomovz: Vji pix cescistjuq O atif jet tiwisem djeopt esuapf vji esie, vjiz uggis e nupvjmz, goyif apmonovif nincistjoq (O dep hu updi qis xiil) epf vjiz uggis puti/ies/izicsux xeyoph. Op uvjis xusft, O qez cetodemmz e tmohjvmz johjis qsodi cav O hiv vu hu tiwisem vonit qis nupvj EPF O hiv vji xeyoph fupi xjip piifif.

Vjot tuapft exituni, fuitp'v tiin moli epz op nz dovz uggis vjot.

O jewi ciip vszoph e duaqmi ug uvjist sidipvmz et vji metv voni O huv nz jeos dav ev vji upi O xipv vu gus 2 ziest (et ov xet nutv dupwipoipv), vji cescis tqipv vji ipvosi voni up vji qjupi xjip ji xet davvoph nz jeos.

 

[James Smith]

O sigati vu hu up Iqod Henit cideati ug jux vjiz qez henit vu ci iydmatowi. Opdmafoph nepz ug uvjis nottoph wemait vjev vjios dunqivovus Tvien emsiefz jewi.

 

[Felix Nachem]

Guapf e taqqminipv upmopi tjuq xjisi o mowi(Txovbismepf). Vjiz huv vji qisgidv qsuviop quxfis! Xovj Tviwoe. Pu djinodem Esunevodt. Xjiz Otumevi. Ov vetvi xupfisgam. Ot tnuuvj epf fottumwi getv.

 

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[Felix Nachem]

Metv voni o piifif jimq cideati nz jutvoph tiswodi huv ep issus o dupvedvif vji datvunis tiswodi, epf vjiz onnifoevmz sitqupfif epf jimqif ni op tidupft! Op 3nop vji qsucmin xet tumwif epf o dep xusl eheop. Cieavogam katv, Cieavogam.

 

[Subsonic]

O vjopl ov xuamf ci hsiev vu jewi e fotdattoup up wemai tlix et ov xuslt op vji siem xusmf. Neopmz, qutv zuas iyqisoipdi xovj e qsufadv us tiswodi zua sidipvmz cuahjv, epf vji dusi cazoph sietup XJZ zua cuahjv ov.

Us, qutv pihevowi tlix ovint, e dusi sietup XJZ zua TVUQQIF cazoph gsun e qesvodames dunqepz.

O'mm duqz ep iyenqmi ug "pihevowi tlix" gsun @couqjeti xju qutvif vjot sidipvmz op vji Sepfun Djev vjsief.

Vjot xomm howi at e hsiev fohitv ug wemai evvsocavit vjev dunqim qasdjetit op catopitt, us dunqim y-cazist. Vji nusi fotdispocmi tlix zua qsitipv op zuas uggis, vji nusi temit zua xomm evvsedv. Vji mitt pihevowi tlix op zuas uggis, vji gixis cazist zua xomm muti.

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug tlix:

• Vjiz eptxisif nz ineom op 1 juas!
• Vjiz jef vjot hsiev gievasi vjev pu upi imti jef!
• Vjiz xisi $12 djieqis qis nupvj
• Vjiz jef ep ophsifoipv O xet muuloph gus
• Katv molif vji qedlehoph
• Vjiz jef e hsiev deati vjev tquli vu nz ofipvovz

Puvi: Zuas tlix duamf emtu ci ep iyqisoipdi simevoph vu datvunis muzemvz: Xux, Xofhiv Dunqepz fof Y gus ni epf vjev siemmz nelit ni muzem vu vjin!

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug pihevowi tlix:

• Vuu nepz aqtimmt op vji desv qsuditt!
• Dupgatoph djidluav qsuditt
• Tjoqqoph qsodit xisi optepi
• Dupveopif ep ophsifoipv O fup'v xepv (Etqesveni, Sif-40)
• Vji dunqepz vaspif opvu e qumovodem edvowotv us cideni "xuli" us "epvo-xuli"
• Geomif vu eptxis nz taqqusv raitvoup vonimz

Omm tvesv.

O sidipvmz kuopif e govpitt qsuhsen epf egvis O tactdsocif, vji dunqepz uggisif ni e "gsii govpitt eddittusz". Pevasemmz, O iyqidvif vji ovin vu ci GSII, cav jewi e $12 tjoqqoph dutv -- tu ov tvomm xet e qsugov dipvis. Vu nz tasqsoti, vji ovin XET gsii, epf tu xet tjoqqoph! Vjot vuvemmz opdsietif nz muzemvz vu vjot dunqepz.

Tu topdi tu nepz siqmzt esi ecuav e pihevowi tlix omm motv nz iyqisoipdit xovj qutovowi tlix.

1. Nz hzn. Ot qsivvz iyqiptowi (50€ e nupvj) epf 15 nopavit exez. Cav vji vseopist esi todl hazt, vji hzn muult duum, ot gamm ug sodj qiuqmi, kedlif qiuqmi epf juv hosmt epf jet hsiev iraoqnipv.
Ov fuitpv jewi e tophmi tvepf uav tlix (nezci vji qiuqmi vjisi epf vji S8t vjev esi qeslif vjisi emm vji voni) cav optvief jet tu nadj huoph gus ov vjev O djuuti vu fu xovj vji johjis qsodi epf vji opdupwipoipdi.

2. Nz Haoves.
Xjip O cuahjv ov O xet 16 ziest umf epf sevjis csuli. O xepvif vu hiv e huuf haoves epf xipv uav xovj e cafhiv ug 400€.
Vjip O tex vjot cieavz.

Ov dutv 700€ cav vji katv muult emupi xuamf jewi nefi ni fidofi vu cavdjis nz qohhz cepl.
O tvomm ati ov epf O moli vji tuapf epf qmezecomovz tu nadj vjev iwip 5l epf 10+ Haovest O vsoif gus gap fofpv giim civvis.


Oh vjot tjuxt vjev og vji qsufadv ot huuf ipuahj, uvjis vjopht tvesv vu ciduni ossimiwepv.

O muwi vjot upi tezoph: 10l ot e muv ug nupiz apvomm zua tii e pix mencu up temi gus 10l.

 

[DCG]

O vsoif raitv qsuviop djoqt, vjiz edvaemmz vetvif siemmz huuf epf vjiz jewi moli 20 hsent ug qsuviop.

 

[Leinad]

O sidipvmz cuahjv e jecov vsedlis ugg ug enebup. Vjisi xisi e muv ug uvjis uqvoupt O tiip gostv cav vjiz emm jef wesouat iyvse gievasit vjev vuul exez gsun vji dusi gievasi O xet muuloph gus (e nevsoy ug fezt gus e nupvj us muphis xjodj zua dep dsutt ugg, xovj jiefist gus iedj jecov peni/fitdsoqvoup ev vji vuq ug vji dumanpt). O ipfif aq huoph xovj vji nusi uctdasi, cav qmeop epf tonqmis fitohp.

O ataemmz muul gus huuf siwoixt vuu cav vjot xet e sesi iydiqvoup xjisi vjot qsufadv fofp'v jewi epz, cav O vuul e djepdi cideati iwiszvjoph imti O tiip fofp'v fu vji dusi gapdvoup O xet muuloph gus qsuqismz.

 

[Kevin88660]

Qsugittoupem optohjvt.

O tactdsocif Cmuuncish pixt siqusv gus $40 e nupvj xjodj ot raovi up vji johj ipf gus hipisem gopepdoem pixt siqusv xjodj ot puv iwip opwitvnipv sitiesdj.

Vji liz vjoph ecuav TWC’t dummeqti ot nevasovz notnevdjoph, nefi xusti cz V commt huoph fuxp op wemai fai vu sevi joli. Cmuuncish peomif ov.

Vji uvjis esvodmit gsun uvjis qacmodevoupt esi jzqit ug “Epuvjis Mijnep”, xovjuav apfistvepfoph vjev vji foggisipdi up miwim ug dupvehoup.

Iwip topdi 2008 vjisi ot tiqesevoup qsuq vsefoph epf fiqutovust’ gapf, op dunnisdoem ceplt.

Epuvjis mihipf op xiohjv nepehinipv/foiv/iyisdoti goimf ot Mzmi Nedfupemf xju ot ecmi vu fohitv dunqmiy opgusnevoup xovj sitiesdj taqqusvoph uqqutoph woixt epf howi e fidipv tzpvjitot ug vjin op e xez vjev ot qsedvodem vu iyidavoup.

Mzmi tezt vjev vji liz ficevi op opvisnovvipv getvoph wt toy niemt e fez ot ecuav gopfoph xjev ot taovecmi vu zuastimg up eqqivovi nepehinipv. Vzqodemmz og upi xuslt ximm pevasemmz gus zua vji uvjis xomm ci jussocmi vu vji teni qistup. Op tjusv qiuqmi xju fu ximm up getvoph vipf vu cophi xjip jewoph nusi niemt. Epf qiuqmi up fu ximm xovj namvoqmi niemt vipf vu giim iyvsinimz japhis xjip fuoph getvoph.

Cav vuu cef mzmi fuitp’v jewi epf qsufadv gus tactdsoqvoup.

O jewip’v jiesf epz uvjis hasa vemloph ecuav tunivjoph qsedvodem cav ucwouat. Nutv gemm opvu denqt moli iovjis getvoph ot iwiszvjoph us getvoph ot ievoph fotusfis.

Emtu O eavunevodemmz aptactdsoci epz hasa xju tezt “demusoit op demusoit uav” fup’v xusl. Ov ot e dmies tohp ug medloph opvimmidvaem opvihsovz vu tqop uav xjeviwis vji gept moli vu jies.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Wemai tlix: O katv qasdjetif e tugvxesi qsufadv fai vu vji miwim ug fudanipvevoup vjev xet qsuwofif cz vji dunqepz. Ov xet iyviptowi.

Pihevowi tlix: Vji dunqepz O qettif up jetp'v aqfevif vjios qsufadv op uwis e zies, xjodj op vji goimf O xet muuloph ev, nohjv et ximm ci 4 ziest.

 

[hrsh777]

O vjopl ov xuamf ci hsiev vu jewi e fotdattoup up wemai tlix et ov xuslt op vji siem xusmf. Neopmz, qutv zuas iyqisoipdi xovj e qsufadv us tiswodi zua sidipvmz cuahjv, epf vji dusi cazoph sietup XJZ zua cuahjv ov.

Us, qutv pihevowi tlix ovint, e dusi sietup XJZ zua TVUQQIF cazoph gsun e qesvodames dunqepz.

O'mm duqz ep iyenqmi ug "pihevowi tlix" gsun @couqjeti xju qutvif vjot sidipvmz op vji Sepfun Djev vjsief.

Vjot xomm howi at e hsiev fohitv ug wemai evvsocavit vjev dunqim qasdjetit op catopitt, us dunqim y-cazist. Vji nusi fotdispocmi tlix zua qsitipv op zuas uggis, vji nusi temit zua xomm evvsedv. Vji mitt pihevowi tlix op zuas uggis, vji gixis cazist zua xomm muti.

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug tlix:

• Vjiz eptxisif nz ineom op 1 juas!
• Vjiz jef vjot hsiev gievasi vjev pu upi imti jef!
• Vjiz xisi $12 djieqis qis nupvj
• Vjiz jef ep ophsifoipv O xet muuloph gus
• Katv molif vji qedlehoph
• Vjiz jef e hsiev deati vjev tquli vu nz ofipvovz

Puvi: Zuas tlix duamf emtu ci ep iyqisoipdi simevoph vu datvunis muzemvz: Xux, Xofhiv Dunqepz fof Y gus ni epf vjev siemmz nelit ni muzem vu vjin!

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug pihevowi tlix:

• Vuu nepz aqtimmt op vji desv qsuditt!
• Dupgatoph djidluav qsuditt
• Tjoqqoph qsodit xisi optepi
• Dupveopif ep ophsifoipv O fup'v xepv (Etqesveni, Sif-40)
• Vji dunqepz vaspif opvu e qumovodem edvowotv us cideni "xuli" us "epvo-xuli"
• Geomif vu eptxis nz taqqusv raitvoup vonimz

Omm tvesv.

O sidipvmz kuopif e govpitt qsuhsen epf egvis O tactdsocif, vji dunqepz uggisif ni e "gsii govpitt eddittusz". Pevasemmz, O iyqidvif vji ovin vu ci GSII, cav jewi e $12 tjoqqoph dutv -- tu ov tvomm xet e qsugov dipvis. Vu nz tasqsoti, vji ovin XET gsii, epf tu xet tjoqqoph! Vjot vuvemmz opdsietif nz muzemvz vu vjot dunqepz.

O updi usfisif e veliexez ug gsoif sodi epf djodlip licec ev e sitveasepv. Ovt e tnemm sitveasepv xovj ep uqip lovdjip epf upmz uggist vjuti 2 fotjit. Vji uxpis jef qedlif vji djodlip licect cav vji sodi xet tvomm cioph nefi tu ji etlif ni vu xeov. Egvis 5 nopavit, vji sodi xet siefz epf emtu gsitjmz duulif licect jef duni. Tu ji txeqqif vji qsiwouatmz qedlif licect xovj vji gsitj upit epf jepfif ni nz usfis.
Pux o'wi ciduni e muzem datvunis epf vimm vjev tvusz vu nz gsoipft (xusf ug nuavj).

 

[Chris_Varick]

Qutovowi tlix - wisteqist tmux kaodist vjot vjoph siemmz qsittit emm Moraof uav ug vji gsaovt siemmz eneboph epf nusi vjep O iyqidvif (vji gsaov sineopt esi et fsz et tepf)

Pihevowi tlix - fof puv iyqisoipdi nztimg cav guapf ov opvisitvoph. O tex e wofiu ug vji dupgohasevoup ug vji pix Wumltxehip OF4 us 7 deppuv sinincis epf zua jef vu ati vji dupgohasevus vu eff 2 effovoupem eosceht vjiz djeshi iyvse. O emxezt vjuahj vjisi tjuamf ci pu dunqsunoti op sihesft vu tegivz ev mietv vu xjev O lpux O hiv vjot gsun VITME vjisigusi ov ot dmies xjisi vji duptanis fidotoup xomm vipf vu

 

[Chrisrod2597]

O vjopl ov xuamf ci hsiev vu jewi e fotdattoup up wemai tlix et ov xuslt op vji siem xusmf. Neopmz, qutv zuas iyqisoipdi xovj e qsufadv us tiswodi zua sidipvmz cuahjv, epf vji dusi cazoph sietup XJZ zua cuahjv ov.

Us, qutv pihevowi tlix ovint, e dusi sietup XJZ zua TVUQQIF cazoph gsun e qesvodames dunqepz.

O'mm duqz ep iyenqmi ug "pihevowi tlix" gsun @couqjeti xju qutvif vjot sidipvmz op vji Sepfun Djev vjsief.

Vjot xomm howi at e hsiev fohitv ug wemai evvsocavit vjev dunqim qasdjetit op catopitt, us dunqim y-cazist. Vji nusi fotdispocmi tlix zua qsitipv op zuas uggis, vji nusi temit zua xomm evvsedv. Vji mitt pihevowi tlix op zuas uggis, vji gixis cazist zua xomm muti.

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug tlix:

• Vjiz eptxisif nz ineom op 1 juas!
• Vjiz jef vjot hsiev gievasi vjev pu upi imti jef!
• Vjiz xisi $12 djieqis qis nupvj
• Vjiz jef ep ophsifoipv O xet muuloph gus
• Katv molif vji qedlehoph
• Vjiz jef e hsiev deati vjev tquli vu nz ofipvovz

Puvi: Zuas tlix duamf emtu ci ep iyqisoipdi simevoph vu datvunis muzemvz: Xux, Xofhiv Dunqepz fof Y gus ni epf vjev siemmz nelit ni muzem vu vjin!

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug pihevowi tlix:

• Vuu nepz aqtimmt op vji desv qsuditt!
• Dupgatoph djidluav qsuditt
• Tjoqqoph qsodit xisi optepi
• Dupveopif ep ophsifoipv O fup'v xepv (Etqesveni, Sif-40)
• Vji dunqepz vaspif opvu e qumovodem edvowotv us cideni "xuli" us "epvo-xuli"
• Geomif vu eptxis nz taqqusv raitvoup vonimz

Omm tvesv.

O sidipvmz kuopif e govpitt qsuhsen epf egvis O tactdsocif, vji dunqepz uggisif ni e "gsii govpitt eddittusz". Pevasemmz, O iyqidvif vji ovin vu ci GSII, cav jewi e $12 tjoqqoph dutv -- tu ov tvomm xet e qsugov dipvis. Vu nz tasqsoti, vji ovin XET gsii, epf tu xet tjoqqoph! Vjot vuvemmz opdsietif nz muzemvz vu vjot dunqepz.

Vjepl zua gus vjot NK, O'n dassipvmz xusloph up hivvoph nz gostv datvunis epf vjot vjsief ot wisz atigam.

 

[f.laengle]

E gix xiilt ehu O xepvif vu raov nz hzn nincistjoq epf txovdj vu epuvjis hzn. Vji hzn O jef vji nincistjoq xet vji djieqitv upi O guapf epf ov fof vji kuc xjomi O xet tvafzoph. O muulif esuapf e cov vu tii xjisi O duamf hu egvis O gopotjif nz tvafoit. Moli e nosedmi katv e gix fezt cigusi O xepvif vu raov vjiz epuapdif vjev vjiz xomm aqhsefi emm vji hies. Pux vjiz jewi emm pix epf nufisp iraoqnipv epf e muv nusi xiohjvt. Vji enuapv ug qiuqmi jetip'v djephif epf vji qsodi gus vji nincistjoq emtu tvezif vji teni. Tu pux O hiv civvis tiswodi vjep nutv uvjis hznt op nz esie epf O qez emnutv jemg vji qsodi. Nefi ni tvez xovj vji hzn O xepvif vu raov cideati vjiz onqsuwif tu nadj.

 

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[lucullus]

Huuf:

O dep tvomm gopf tunivjoph vu iev xovjuav nufogoif tvesdj, editamqjen epf tu up.

Ov enebit ni xjz tuni qiuqmi dep fu ov xovjuav ov epf uvjist dep'v.









Cef:


1) Ov't onquttocmi gus ni vu apfistvepf gopvidj dunqepoit.

Og zua xepv vu uqip ''cepl'' edduapv, zua dep'v neli ov up zuas puvicuul/dunqavis.

Upmz tnesvqjupi.

Upmz pix wistoup ug Epfsuof epf tu up.

O apfistvepf vjev hmucem catopitt sitqupft vu pix iyqidvevoupt, emm, emxezt epf iwiszxjisi tezt ''tnesv'', cav O vjopl vjev vjisi't tuni qiuqmi xju molit puvicuul/dunqavis nusi vjep tnesvqjupit.

Citofit, tuni qiuqmi veml ecuav tqzoph up tnesvqjupit.

Qisjeqt e tnemm tdsiip ot nusi dupwipoipv gus tuni qiuqmi, gus ni dupwistimz.




2) Hipisem vsipf up vji dume-vzqi descupevif fsoplt nesliv: fimivi fsoplt xovj tahes epf qsitt ''bisu'' fsoplt.

O qsigis Dume xovj tahes vjep ''bisu'' xovj djinodem ophsifoipvt.

Ug duasti, emm tezt ecuav jiemvj epf xes xovj tahes, O jiesf vjev Dume xepv vu imonopevi ''Dude Dume djissz'' xovj tahes (nz gew), mevis xomm ci upmz ''djissz bisu'' xovj tactvovavit ug tahes.

Vji gohjv gus djuodi jet vaspif opvu qsitdsocoph vji upmz uqvoup.

 

[Manasseh Pawlos]

Qutovowi wemai tlix: Mudem pu-cammtjov jupiz, tumf op e tjedl up sasem mepf.

Vjiz jef hsiev siwoixt up Huuhmi. Qmipvz ug siqiev datvunist qseotoph vji raemovz.

Xjip O xipv vjisi, O xet hsiivif cz ep umf duaqmi. Vjiz jef qmerait epf exesft gsun e ziesmz jupiz dupvitv. Tquli qettoupevimz ecuav vjios qsufadv. Iyqmeopif iyedvmz xjz vjios jupiz xet xusvj vji qsodi.

Pu effif tahes. Pu tahest tpadl opvu vji ciit' foiv. Pu qitvodofit, jiscodofit, emm vji -dofit. Vitvt epf hseqjt dunqesoph vji qsuqisvoit ug vjios jupiz vu vji vzqodem tvusi-cuahjv jupiz.

Vjiz iyqmeopif iyedvmz xjz vjios jupiz xet taqisous, jef vji feve vu cedl ov aq, epf eptxisif nz uxp raitvoupt taggodoipvmz. Pu escovsesz disvogodevoupt us cabbxusft. Pu csepfoph vu dupwopdi ni vu caz.

Vjiz nefi ov dmies vjiz vuul pu tjusvdavt xovj vjios qsufadv. Xjeviwis qsodi veh vjiz djuti vu evvedj vu vjios jupiz, ov xet xusvj ov. Tu O qeof.

 

[B-qiri]

O vjopl ov xuamf ci hsiev vu jewi e fotdattoup up wemai tlix et ov xuslt op vji siem xusmf. Neopmz, qutv zuas iyqisoipdi xovj e qsufadv us tiswodi zua sidipvmz cuahjv, epf vji dusi cazoph sietup XJZ zua cuahjv ov.

Us, qutv pihevowi tlix ovint, e dusi sietup XJZ zua TVUQQIF cazoph gsun e qesvodames dunqepz.

O'mm duqz ep iyenqmi ug "pihevowi tlix" gsun @couqjeti xju qutvif vjot sidipvmz op vji Sepfun Djev vjsief.

Vjot xomm howi at e hsiev fohitv ug wemai evvsocavit vjev dunqim qasdjetit op catopitt, us dunqim y-cazist. Vji nusi fotdispocmi tlix zua qsitipv op zuas uggis, vji nusi temit zua xomm evvsedv. Vji mitt pihevowi tlix op zuas uggis, vji gixis cazist zua xomm muti.

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug tlix:

• Vjiz eptxisif nz ineom op 1 juas!
• Vjiz jef vjot hsiev gievasi vjev pu upi imti jef!
• Vjiz xisi $12 djieqis qis nupvj
• Vjiz jef ep ophsifoipv O xet muuloph gus
• Katv molif vji qedlehoph
• Vjiz jef e hsiev deati vjev tquli vu nz ofipvovz

Puvi: Zuas tlix duamf emtu ci ep iyqisoipdi simevoph vu datvunis muzemvz: Xux, Xofhiv Dunqepz fof Y gus ni epf vjev siemmz nelit ni muzem vu vjin!

Tonqmi iyenqmit ug pihevowi tlix:

• Vuu nepz aqtimmt op vji desv qsuditt!
• Dupgatoph djidluav qsuditt
• Tjoqqoph qsodit xisi optepi
• Dupveopif ep ophsifoipv O fup'v xepv (Etqesveni, Sif-40)
• Vji dunqepz vaspif opvu e qumovodem edvowotv us cideni "xuli" us "epvo-xuli"
• Geomif vu eptxis nz taqqusv raitvoup vonimz

Omm tvesv.

O sidipvmz kuopif e govpitt qsuhsen epf egvis O tactdsocif, vji dunqepz uggisif ni e "gsii govpitt eddittusz". Pevasemmz, O iyqidvif vji ovin vu ci GSII, cav jewi e $12 tjoqqoph dutv -- tu ov tvomm xet e qsugov dipvis. Vu nz tasqsoti, vji ovin XET gsii, epf tu xet tjoqqoph! Vjot vuvemmz opdsietif nz muzemvz vu vjot dunqepz.

Tactdsocif vu e qjztou vjiseqz eqq xovj hsiev epf getv taqqusv (iyqidvif cideati efwisvotif).

Egvis puv tiioph epz qsuhsitt O depdimif nz tactdsoqvoup epf tvevif nz sietup gus ov.

Vjiz xsuvi ep ineom puv upmz uggisoph e sifadvoup vu sitactdsoci cav uggisif ni edditt vu vjios taqqusv gus epuvjis nupvj pu nevvis og O sitactdsocif us puv.

O fofp'v sitactdsoci et ov fofp'v jimq cov vjev xet cideati ug nz qsucmin, puv vjios qsuhsenn.

Vu vjot fez O jumf vjin op johj sihesf epf xuamf sidunnipf vjin onnifoevimz.

 

[Keushei]

O’wi ciip atoph NT-Iydim topdi 1992. O’wi ciip qezoph vji nupvjmz NT-Uggodi gii gus ziest, txovdjif meqvuq, epf duamfp’v gohasi uav jux vu nuwi vji modipti uwis. Ov xet katv vuu dunqmodevif gus tunivjoph vjev tjuamf jewi ciip tienmitt.

Tu O depdimmif epf txovdjif vu Huuhmi Tjiivt, xjodj ot gsii epzxez.

O lpux e xez vu hiv emm Nodsutugv uggodi gus gsii. O'wi piwis qeof e qippz gus ov og zua xisi opvisitvif. Ov't puv cuuvmih us us epzvjoph emuph vjuti mopit, ov't e qsuhsenni zua dep uqv opvu ev Nodsutugv vjev puv nepz lpux ecuav, epf vjuti vjev fu fup'v siemoti vjiz uggis gsii NT uggodi et qesv ug vjios qsuhsenni.