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Thanks for sharing!
 

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It had value to me. I really.. have for sometime now.. wanted to have a serious convo about this with a bunch of men whom I respect, like the good guys on this forum.

I have a short and fairly balanced post on this in the Mens Locker titled "Actung"... there's definitely an ethical way to approach this but as its such a polarising topic it's hard to have an honest disussion... am open to suggestions! :peace:
 

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I have a short and fairly balanced post on this in the Mens Locker titled "Actung"... there's definitely an ethical way to approach this but as its such a polarising topic it's hard to have an honest disussion... am open to suggestions! :peace:

There was a chick last year who joined and posted a bunch of guru type manipulative bs in the women’s locker room a while back. We all just ignored her. I think women need advice but I doubt they’d ever pay for it. I didn’t know men paid for anything like this stuff until recently though.. had no clue stuff was on Udemy at all.. so what do I know?

Anyhoo, I am forever matching ppl or getting ppl to meet or (trying to) force my introvert friends to rethink their limiting beliefs about dating so that they stop being these depressed action-faking hopefuls reading romantic books instead of hot chicks who can go make friends. I think a lot of ppl prefer the safety of yearning for a fairy tale rather than experiencing the suffering that comes from searching for and making a solid relationship work. Relationships are the hardest thing on earth.
 

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Only the ones Mother Nature deemed unfit to spread their progeny.
It's called natural selection for a reason.

I am in favor of the removal of warning labels.
 

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But you need a fisherman to teach you how to catch fish!
I personally like this analogy: "If you got beat up by Mike Tyson, does that mean you can now teach other people how to fight?"

Finally, if you're wondering about the relevance of the course/topic, I'll just say this: markets exist because they serve needs (duh), not the other way around. As such, it's not because a market disappears, that the needs it serves disappear as well
Love this.
 

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Hmmm. That’s interesting.. somebody I know wants me to make a course on dating. I had no idea there were courses on Udemy on it.. dating stuff online seems so .. unnecessary.. but I don’t have a problem meeting amazing ppl.

I’ve wanted to bring this topic up and hear what ppl say but I totes don’t want to be the person who brings it up. Lol.

Do guys really need or even want dating courses??
I mean no disrespect to you, but young women live in a bubble. They feel qualified to give guys advice on dating because they are a woman and "know what women like". This is really not the case.

Recently I came across this video which illustrates my point pretty well: Tinder Experiment: 18 Yr Old Woman Tries Being A Man!!!
 

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I mean no disrespect to you, but young women live in a bubble. They feel qualified to give guys advice on dating because they are a woman and "know what women like". This is really not the case.

Recently I came across this video which illustrates my point pretty well: Tinder Experiment: 18 Yr Old Woman Tries Being A Man!!!

Ummmm no disrespect to you but you don't know Periwinkle. I've had quite a few deep conversations with her and she is wise way beyond her years on this subject.

I think a lot of issues these days is the over-reliance on 'tech' i.e. dating apps/sites to do all the heavy lifting. As they are prone to being gamed it can become very disheartening.

In fact I knew someone who went out with quite a lot of females via a particular dating site. He couldn't understand why he would only ever get one date and they always seemed to want to rush off as soon as their meal was over. Now he was a good looking and charming guy. Married 4 times and a bit of a player.

Now I know that really hit is ego and therefore his confidence as he couldn't quite work out what was going on and it felt like total rejection.

Turns out that the site had a sister site where women could sign up for a free meal at a nice restaurant. They weren't really matching people, they were just feeding two different desires (company on one side with the hopes of finding love and a one off free evening out on the other). The women knew what was going on, the guys didn't.
 

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You actually made money selling a tinder texting course?!!?!? :rofl:

If it's true good for you, pretty hilarious. Why not just have a website / Amazon and drive traffic from FB/IG/YT?
 

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So...
After thinking a bit more about it, I DID IT!!

I built a website and put the course on it for free.

FOR FREE??

I mean, part of it. The entire theory part is free, the practical examples are behind a paywall.

I charge 9.67 euros a month, the same price that Netflix charges more or less, for access to the more than 50 examples, and I will add some every months.

I think it is a fair price to be honest.

Just wanted to thank the people that suggested me to build my own website.

I became really good at wordpress now, had to learn how to create a paywall, i read cashvertising to make sure the copy was on point, and now i am about to promote my website with facebook ads....

Even if it doesn't work and i end up losing a sh*t loads of money, it was worth it for the amount of knowledge I learnt!
 

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Do guys really need or even want dating courses??

Yes, many do, unfortunately.

The internet has dramatically changed dating. And online dating has dramatically widened the pool of potential partners, combined with social media, things turn into a winner take all contest.

Though I think that much of this can be corrected by making men lift weights, socialize more with people with higher emotional intelligence, and developing some sense of mission in life.

In restrospective, I regret having written this thread as it doesn't really bring any value to the community.

I've mentioned this in other threads, but you can learn a lot about culture, technology, history, and more if you seriously look into why PUA even appeared in the first place.

I think that the overwhelming majority of guys that make their way to the PUA community are just nerds who want girlfriends. The people who read that material are probably a lot less nefarious than they get credit for.

As dictator I would shut down Tinder & co today, but I think that a lot of guys - guys who are overall pretty normal, but just behind on a few socials that compound into being loners - need help navigating the dating world.

Oh, and just a vulgar way to make that point - our society went from strangers meeting & banging that night via Craigslist or Tinder a few years ago to having masks become part of daily life (it's f*cking weird telling a girl that she looks like she'd be cute without the mask, even when she gives you her number). This shit will only get weirder, so some people should have guides.
 

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Yes, many do, unfortunately.

The internet has dramatically changed dating. And online dating has dramatically widened the pool of potential partners, combined with social media, things turn into a winner take all contest.

Though I think that much of this can be corrected by making men lift weights, socialize more with people with higher emotional intelligence, and developing some sense of mission in life.



I've mentioned this in other threads, but you can learn a lot about culture, technology, history, and more if you seriously look into why PUA even appeared in the first place.

I think that the overwhelming majority of guys that make their way to the PUA community are just nerds who want girlfriends. The people who read that material are probably a lot less nefarious than they get credit for.

As dictator I would shut down Tinder & co today, but I think that a lot of guys - guys who are overall pretty normal, but just behind on a few socials that compound into being loners - need help navigating the dating world.

Oh, and just a vulgar way to make that point - our society went from strangers meeting & banging that night via Craigslist or Tinder a few years ago to having masks become part of daily life (it's f*cking weird telling a girl that she looks like she'd be cute without the mask, even when she gives you her number). This shit will only get weirder, so some people should have guides.
Things have changed so much that even if you are an outgoing guy, the offline avenue to meet girls In the 20s through friends or pub (cold setting) has reduced a lot because how young people interacted with one another changed.

The vast amount of new generation girls are not comfortable making face to face interactive with people they are not too familiar with. Even if you are an outgoing guy who has no social issue the problem is “consumer behavior” has changed and probably you have adapt. And now having an IG and snapchat acc are somewhat a standard package in some countries for dating, just like LinkedIn for business.
 

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And now having an IG and snapchat acc are somewhat a standard package in some countries for dating, just like LinkedIn for business.

I've had that happen a few times in the States - I'd ask for a girl's number and she said "what about Insta or Snapchat?" I don't.

But even though I find social media generally repulsive, I'd like to actually be able to relate to younger people in a decade, so I suppose that I'll have to learn it.
 

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I've had that happen a few times in the States - I'd ask for a girl's number and she said "what about Insta or Snapchat?" I don't.

But even though I find social media generally repulsive, I'd like to actually be able to relate to younger people in a decade, so I suppose that I'll have to learn it.
I am the early 30s facebook generation. I still remember how I was “forced” to use facebook because how everyone In college was using it organise outing that if you don’t have one you cannot keep track of the date changes.

The 20s are already using instal and snapchat more often and many do not have facebook.

The super young generation U23 is probably going to be somewhat different also. Let us see if Tiktok can be the “all in one app” that it aspires to be.
 

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