Well..Maybe someone should just create a course on “how to take actions in things that you want to do?”
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Free registration at the forum removes this block.Well..Maybe someone should just create a course on “how to take actions in things that you want to do?”
Whatever that works. Course or service.A coaching business?
I mean it's the only thing I can think of without being contradictory in itself
(jk) Maybe someone should just create a course on how to create a course on how to take action.
The thing with the gurus imo is also that they sell you on the idea that the course or whatever is enough to get the results. That's why they can charge $10K as Tai Lopez does. He basically convinces you that the course is enough, your work is not needed.Yeah this one is catchy but it's a bit off the mark in my opinion.
@Valier - you will get a LOT OF PRAISE for videos like this, just a heads up. People LOVE to nit-pick successful people and find reasons why they are morally superior.
Let me ask you, if I write an ad for an online course on gardening, and my copy is so convincing that you decide to buy the course even though you HATE gardening... am I in the wrong? If three months go by after starting my course and you haven't put down any soil or planted anything... am I a scammer?
The reason these people say "you have to do the work" is because it's true. If you're buying an online course, you have to do the work.
Occasionally you'll find people that offer "done for you" services as well as online courses. Trust me, they are FAR more expensive than the online course.
It might be $5,000 for the online program. It's probably $50,000 for the done-for-you.
Why? Because doing the work is where the GOLD is.
Most people that buy online courses don't want to do the work because they don't give a crap about the work.
OK I'm beating a dead horse at this point lol. Carry on.
I agree with this for the most part... except this industry in particular is something much bigger than just convincing sales copy.
The video touches on it in broad strokes, but there is an entire rabbit hole of what can essentially be labelled as a pyramid scheme, cult-like communities, and piles upon piles of debt caused by some of the "fake gurus" mentioned in this video.
If you ever get the chance, check out Coffeezilla's videos on these guys. Here is a particularly interesting video where he interviews a Dan Lok student:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VDiM_PMmZA&t=2s
Is it really just convincing sales copy to be encouraging people to finance their $2000 course and labelling it as "essentially free" like John Crestani did in his webinar?
Is it really just effective marketing when they spend the first 30-45 minutes of the webinar telling their audience how "easy" it is, and only spare a momentary few seconds to say "you have to put in the work though" (a sentence that will very likely fly above the audience's head).
Is it really just an online course teaching you "affiliate marketing" when they portray it as a lifestyle product, and as though there is a high-chance of success when taking their courses (despite their success rates almost definitely being sub 5%)?
Isn't it a little fishy that so many of the "students" that come out of these courses just end up selling the course to other people for a commission?
I'm all for effective marketing strategies, and online education. Those were not the issue.
But when you really assess the tactics that these "fake gurus" use, it becomes incredibly predatory on people's insecurities - I highly encourage you to watch a webinar from either Kevin David, or John Crestani and tell me if it's just effective sales copy.
And here’s another video of a BBC investigation into Samuel Leeds after an ex-solider killed himself after going into debt for one of Leeds’ “programs”.
View: https://youtu.be/eAmYaAYUnc8
There's more than meets the eye with this industry - having done so much research for this video and going through all of these webinars, that I can assure you!
second this, thanks for introducing me to TMF /Unscripted /This forum!Awesome job @Valier. I had a feeling you were on this forum haha.
lol. Look up Marisa Murgatroyd, I'm taking her course on how to use gamification to get people to actually complete your course and take action. Nerd Fitness uses the gamification model and it's the only course that I found easy to work through. I don't love Marisa's style but I'm a big fan of the way she uses gamification and accountability to actually get people to do the work.Whatever that works. Course or service.
Service-A virtual sergeant that shouts at you and call you everyday to check that you have done what you wanted to finish.
Course-How to visualize and convince yourself that you will burn in hell if you fail to finish your to finish your daily to do list.
Interesting I will look into this.lol. Look up Marisa Murgatroyd, I'm taking her course on how to use gamification to get people to actually complete your course and take action. Nerd Fitness uses the gamification model and it's the only course that I found easy to work through. I don't love Marisa's style but I'm a big fan of the way she uses gamification and accountability to actually get people to do the work.
All big-ticket courses advertise themselves with testimonials. And often, those testimonials are from folks who had way more hand-holding than you or I would get after purchasing the course. Either they bought into a higher-level mentoring package, or they were in the beta group and got more personalized attention that way.
This is a fantastic point. The reason I was getting nowhere was because I was doing things that didn't align with my goals and personality.
It took a lot of reflection to understand a better path for me. Once the path is clearer, then you know what to invest in.
If you're starting a social media agency then taking Tai Lopez' social media online course is probably a GOOD IDEA. If you don't give a crap about social media, but just want to make money or build a personal brand, it's most definitely a REALLY BAD IDEA.
Not all online courses are scammy, even if the creators use marketing tactics that feel scammy.
Grant Cardone has a bunch of highly valuable sales courses. Does it make sense for someone that likes sales but hates Grant's personality to buy his courses? NO!
It all depends on what aligns with the individual's goals and personality.
I took Marisa's course.lol. Look up Marisa Murgatroyd, I'm taking her course on how to use gamification to get people to actually complete your course and take action. Nerd Fitness uses the gamification model and it's the only course that I found easy to work through. I don't love Marisa's style but I'm a big fan of the way she uses gamification and accountability to actually get people to do the work.
All big-ticket courses advertise themselves with testimonials. And often, those testimonials are from folks who had way more hand-holding than you or I would get after purchasing the course. Either they bought into a higher-level mentoring package, or they were in the beta group and got more personalized attention that way.
If you ever get the chance, check out Coffeezilla's videos on these guys. Here is a particularly interesting video where he interviews a Dan Lok student:
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