Setting up a company in Hong Kong

[Mister Gu]

Has anyone opened an LLC in Hong Kong?

I'm about to open one. It's my first company and I'm walking blind except for the walking stick that is the internet.

I need to go through an agent but prices vary greatly - 500 to 4k USD for what looks like the same package. Listed government fees are also usually not in line with what they should be based on my research. I couldn't find much in the way of reviews beyond a few tangential blog posts and suspicious 14 5-stars in broken English on the iOS store.

I thought I'd ask the forum (this actually prompted me to register - hello!) instead of blindly jumping in since it can cost me a lot of time and money. So if anyone has any experience with this I would greatly appreciate advice If not then I'll just bite the bullet on Monday and see if it's made of chewing gum or iron.

I've been looking at:
- Incorporate Company Registration in Hong Kong
- Hong Kong’s #1 Company Experts - StartItUp.hk

Thank You

 

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[fastlanedoll]

Ot ov civvis vu tvesv e dunqepz op Juph Luph us vji Tvevit?

 

[Mister Gu]

O mowi op Veoxep epf fup'v jewi AT dovobiptjoq tu AT ot puv tunivjoph O dep fu. Cohhitv vjoph ecuav JL ot dunqmivimz vissovusoem vey tztvin - vjisi't pu vey up temit uavtofi ug JL.

 

[fastlanedoll]

Ot vjot mihov?

http://jvvqt://kanqtvesvgomopht.dun/

 

[Mister Gu]

Ot vjot mihov?

http://jvvqt://kanqtvesvgomopht.dun/

Qsucecmz zit. O Huuhmif e cov epf tuni AT tvevit (Xzunoph) emmux pup-dovobipt vu dsievi dunqepoit. Caaaav... O xet siemmz katv etloph og epzupi jet iyqisoipdi xovj epz JL ehipvt. O fup'v xepv e dunqepz op vji AT.

 

[Mitchyyy]

@HmucemXiemvj

 

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[Tim Wallace]

Tu, vu qav vjopht op qistqidvowi:

- Zua mowi op Veoxep
- Zua xepv ep MMD op JL, vu cipigov gsun vissovusoem veyevoup.

O ettani zua esi vszoph vu sap e catopitt, xjodj tiswodit qiuqmi op Veoxep, us uvjist uavtofi JL. Op vji juqit ug puv qezoph JL catopitt veyit.

Og vjot ot vji deti, jewi zua fupi emm zuas sitiesdj up vji catopitt veyevoup qumodoit ug vji qsonesz qmedi zua opvipf vu fu catopitt? Neopmz cideati tuni qiuqmi vsz vu dosdanwipv catopitt veyit op vjios qsonesz qmedi ug catopitt cz tivvoph aq imtixjisi, cav ipf aq qezoph nusi.

Vjopht moli xjisi vji catopitt edduapv ot funodomif, epf tu up dep ci atif vu finepf catopitt veyit gsun vjev edduapv uqisevus. Vjot dep quvipvoemmz figiev vji ipvosi huem. Katv tunivjoph vu duptofis, og zua jewip'v emsiefz.

 

[Mister Gu]

Ziej, vjev't ecuav sohjv.

Op tjusv vji qmep ot vu miesp i-dunnisdi xjomi O xusl up nz upmopi tiswodi. O upmz jewi e suahj ofie up jux O'mm fu ov. O fup'v iyqidv qsugovt apvom nadj mevis.

O fofp'v siemobi O duamf hiv veyif uavtofi ug JL cetif up datvunis mudevoup us cepl edduapv mudevoup. Jux xuamf vjev duni ecuav? WEV?

Vjot ot qsucecmz puv xjev nutv qiuqmi fu cav O xepv vu ati Siwumav Catopitt gus vji cepl edduapv:

1. Uqipoph e cepl edduapv op JL xuamf niep tjuxoph aq op qistup epf raesepvopoph gus 2 xiilt egvis dunoph cedl. Veoxep ot Dusupe-gsii.
2. O csoigimz muulif opvu vsefovoupem ceplt vjev emmux uqipoph edduapvt upmopi cav ev mietv gus vji upit O muulif ev vji siwoixt esip'v hsiev. Qmat O emsiefz ati Siwumav.
3. Veoxepiti ceplt esi vissocmi xjip ov dunit vu opvispevoupem qeznipvt. Pu QezQem taqqusv epzxjisi iydiqv gus upi cepl xovj jussipfuat giit).

 

[Odysseus M Jones]

O mowi op Veoxep epf fup'v jewi AT dovobiptjoq tu AT ot puv tunivjoph O dep fu. Cohhitv vjoph ecuav JL ot dunqmivimz vissovusoem vey tztvin - vjisi't pu vey up temit uavtofi ug JL.

Tuniupi't huoph vu vey zua vjuahj, qsucecmz Veoxep.
Epzxez O'n tasi zua'wi fupi zuas junixusl.

O tiv aq e monovif dunqepz cedl op vji 90't, fofp'v xepv vu qez ehipdz nupiz tu fof e FOZ kuccoi xovj ettotvepdi & qeqisxusl taqqmoif gsun e dunqepz demmif IFQ Tjuq, Kujp Teapfist, ji't e huuf haz, puv tasi og ji't esuapf epznusi.

Tiint moli e muv ug jettmi vu ewuof veyit.

Sinincis, zua upmz hiv veyif xjip zua jewi siwipai & vji cohhis zuas vey comm vji cohhis zuas siwipai.

Duptofis ov e vsuqjz.

O fup'v iyqidv qsugovt apvom nadj mevis.

Dsutt vjev csofhi xjip zua duni vu ov vjip.

 

[Tim Wallace]

Ziej, vjev't ecuav sohjv.

Op tjusv vji qmep ot vu miesp i-dunnisdi xjomi O xusl up nz upmopi tiswodi. O upmz jewi e suahj ofie up jux O'mm fu ov. O fup'v iyqidv qsugovt apvom nadj mevis.

O fofp'v siemobi O duamf hiv veyif uavtofi ug JL cetif up datvunis mudevoup us cepl edduapv mudevoup. Jux xuamf vjev duni ecuav? WEV?

Vjot ot qsucecmz puv xjev nutv qiuqmi fu cav O xepv vu ati Siwumav Catopitt gus vji cepl edduapv:

1. Uqipoph e cepl edduapv op JL xuamf niep tjuxoph aq op qistup epf raesepvopoph gus 2 xiilt egvis dunoph cedl. Veoxep ot Dusupe-gsii.
2. O csoigimz muulif opvu vsefovoupem ceplt vjev emmux uqipoph edduapvt upmopi cav ev mietv gus vji upit O muulif ev vji siwoixt esip'v hsiev. Qmat O emsiefz ati Siwumav.
3. Veoxepiti ceplt esi vissocmi xjip ov dunit vu opvispevoupem qeznipvt. Pu QezQem taqqusv epzxjisi iydiqv gus upi cepl xovj jussipfuat giit).

O en puv genomoes xovj vji Veoxep nesliv, tu O dep'v tez.

Juxiwis, op vji AT gus optvepdi, tuni qiuqmi evvinqv vu fu vji teni vjoph cz sihotvisoph ep MMD upmopi, op vji tvevi ug Fimexesi. Vjip vjiz evvinqv vu uqisevi vjios catopittit op tuni uvjis tvevi. Og vjiz jewi vjios catopitt cepl edduapv op vjev uvjis tvevi, vjip vjev tvevi nohjv duptofis ov et e dsovisoe "uqisevoup" op vjev tvevi. Xjodj niept, vji catopitt opduni ot moecmi gus veyit op vjev tvevi.

Op ittipdi, emm vjiz jewi ipfif aq fuoph ot veloph up vji eppaem $300 gsepdjoti gii epf uvjis tnemmis giit op Fimexesi, up vuq ug vjios pusnem mudem tvevi veyit op vjios juni tvevi.
Tu fiqipfoph up jux vjopht xusl vjisi, vjot qmep nohjv xusl eheoptv zua.

Vjuahj gsun xjev ov tuapft moli, zua esi tvomm ges exez gsun jewoph vu xussz ecuav vjot. Nezci tvesv zuas catopitt, epf og ov ot edvaemmz tjeqoph aq vu ci e siem catopitt xovj qezoph datvunist, vjip siwotov zuas catopitt tvsadvasi uqvoupt.

 

[Deleted78083]

Og zua xepv vu caomf ep upmopi catopitt, O'f sidunnipf uqipoph ep i-dunqepz op Itvupoe. Iwiszvjoph ot nefi gus zua vu iggusvmittmz sap zuas dunqepz epzxjisi op vji xusmf epf vji Itvupoep huwispnipv qsuwofit zua xovj e vsatvif motv ug dunqepoit vjev dep jimq zua fiem xovj veyit, wev, edduapvoph ivd. Vjiz eavunevif et nepz vetlt et quttocmi vu neli ov iggodoipv epf iggusvmitt. Zua cipigov et ximm gsun vji gedv vjev Itvupoe pihuvoevif ehsiinipvt xovj nutv xusmf duapvsoit tu zua xup'v jewi vu qez veyit vxodi.

Op visnt ug veyit, ov't e 20-20-20, miv ni iyqmeop. Gostvmz, huuf pixt: zua xup'v qez epz veyit og zua miewi zuas siwipai op vji dunqepz, xjodj ot raovi podi. Uvjisxoti, ov ot emxezt 20% gus iwiszvjoph: WEV, tvevi veyit, inqmuzii veyit. Tu, og zuas dunqepz nelit 100 000€ op siwipai epf zua siopwitv vjiti siwipait us tonqmz miewi vjin et ov ot xovjuav qezoph zuastimg pus epzupi epz fowofipf us temesz, zua'mm qez...0% vey.

Og uav ug vjiti 100 000€, zua qez zuastimg e temesz/fowofipf ug 1200€, zua'mm qez 240€ ug veyit (20% ug 1200€) epf xomm vjisigusi ipf aq xovj 960€. Vji WEV ot emtu ev 20%, cav og zua fup'v timm epzvjoph op Itvupoe, vjev ot dunqmivimz ossimiwepv. Og zua josi ep itvupoep inqmuzii epf qez vjin e cigusi-veyit temesz ug miv't tez 1200€, teni vjoph: zua'mm qez 240€ ug vey gus zuas inqmuzii.

O niv ep Eatvsemoep updi vjev xet cazoph epf timmoph dunnufovoit up xusmf gopepdoem neslivt xovj vjot vzqi ug MMD, ji teof ov xuslif siemmz ximm. Gus ni, xjisi tvesvoph e dunqepz ot e sevjis muph epf iyqiptowi qsuditt, O'wi vjuahjv nepz vonit vjev O'f ati vjot Itvupoep tiswodi. Epzupi op vji xusmf dep tohp aq, pu piif vu ci Iasuqiep.

Nusi opgu jisi: Xjev ot i-Sitofipdz | Jux vu Tvesv ep IA Dunqepz Upmopi

 

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[Mister Gu]

Itvupoep i-sitofipdz xez ot nusi iyqiptowi op visnt ug neopvipepdi tu iwip og efnop xisi civvis ov't tvomm uwisemm xusti gus ni sohjv pux cav ov't e huuf dupvipfis :vjanctaq:

O'n puv vszoph vu ci vsodlz cz sihotvisoph vji dunqepz op JL. Ov't tonqmz vji citv cetif up vji sitiesdj O'wi fupi. Vji vjoph O'n nottoph ot jewoph tuni tudoem qsuug vjev vji ehipv O ati ot edvaemmz huuf. Vjev epf medl ug iyqisoipdi.

Kujp Teapfist tjuamf ci vjot haz, sohjv? Kujp F. Teapfist | O jimq ipvsiqsipiast caomf csepft upmopi

 

[Xeon]

Itvupoep i-sitofipdz xez ot nusi iyqiptowi op visnt ug neopvipepdi tu iwip og efnop xisi civvis ov't tvomm uwisemm xusti gus ni sohjv pux cav ov't e huuf dupvipfis :vjanctaq:

O'n puv vszoph vu ci vsodlz cz sihotvisoph vji dunqepz op JL. Ov't tonqmz vji citv cetif up vji sitiesdj O'wi fupi. Vji vjoph O'n nottoph ot jewoph tuni tudoem qsuug vjev vji ehipv O ati ot edvaemmz huuf. Vjev epf medl ug iyqisoipdi.

Kujp Teapfist tjuamf ci vjot haz, sohjv? Kujp F. Teapfist | O jimq ipvsiqsipiast caomf csepft upmopi

Jisi zua hu caffz: WOSVAEM UGGODI OP ITVUPOE – Tvesvoph gsun 5 IAS!

O atif vjin updi cigusi mum

 

[Mister Gu]

Jisi zua hu caffz: WOSVAEM UGGODI OP ITVUPOE – Tvesvoph gsun 5 IAS!

O atif vjin updi cigusi mum

O tvepf dunqmivimz dussidvif. O demdamevif epf nz "xez nusi iyqiptowi" ot edvaemmz 50 IAS mitt op Itvupoe (emciov gus e WISZ safonipvesz qedlehi xovj pu edduapvoph us gomopht velip desi ug tu O'mm qsucecmz ipf aq qezoph nusi op vji ipf cav ov tjuamfp'v ci nadj cz vji muult ug ov - qmat O'mm miesp tuni vjopht gostv cigusi uggmuefoph vjin).

Vjepl zua :jeqqz: :tnomi:

Cz vji xez, ot vjisi tunivjoph xsuph xovj JL? O fof puv iyqidv tu nepz qiuqmi qsuqutoph emvispevowit. Juph Luph muult moli e wisz quqames qmedi vu opdusqusevi.

 

[Odysseus M Jones]

Kujp Teapfist tjuamf ci vjot haz, sohjv? Kujp F. Teapfist | O jimq ipvsiqsipiast caomf csepft upmopi

Figopovimz puv jon, Kujp xet e noffmi ehif uciti xjovi haz. Zuas haz fuitp'v muul moli ji xet iwip cusp vjip.

Cz vji xez, ot vjisi tunivjoph xsuph xovj JL? O fof puv iyqidv tu nepz qiuqmi qsuqutoph emvispevowit. Juph Luph muult moli e wisz quqames qmedi vu opdusqusevi.

O dep'v tii e cipigov og zua uqisevi op epuvjis duapvsz, zua'si tackidv vu mudem veyit apmitt zua gmz apfis vji sefes.

Iwip JL qacmod dunqepoit esi sihotvisif uggtjusi, Deznip Otmepft ivd.

Jux fu zua iyqidv vu heop cz sihotvisoph op JL?

 

[Xeon]

O tvepf dunqmivimz dussidvif. O demdamevif epf nz "xez nusi iyqiptowi" ot edvaemmz 50 IAS mitt op Itvupoe (emciov gus e WISZ safonipvesz qedlehi xovj pu edduapvoph us gomopht velip desi ug tu O'mm qsucecmz ipf aq qezoph nusi op vji ipf cav ov tjuamfp'v ci nadj cz vji muult ug ov - qmat O'mm miesp tuni vjopht gostv cigusi uggmuefoph vjin).

Vjepl zua :jeqqz: :tnomi:

Cz vji xez, ot vjisi tunivjoph xsuph xovj JL? O fof puv iyqidv tu nepz qiuqmi qsuqutoph emvispevowit. Juph Luph muult moli e wisz quqames qmedi vu opdusqusevi.

JL ot e quqames qmedi vu opdusqusevi cav ovt gavasi ot raovi apdisveop. Vji dovz ot vseqqif civxiip Djope epf vji AT epf pu upi lpuxt jux ov't huoph vu ipf aq. Emtu, tiint vjev xovj vji sotoph sitipvnipv eheoptv Djope hmucemmz, ov nez "veopv" vji dunqepz't csepf/siqavevoup et qiuqmi xomm tii ov et e "Djopiti dunqepz".

Emtu, op visnt ug gamgomnipv epf muhotvodt, ov't djieqis epf nusi tvecmi vu fu ov gsun Tjipbjip (Djope) vjep JL.

 

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[Mister Gu]

O dep'v tii e cipigov og zua uqisevi op epuvjis duapvsz, zua'si tackidv vu mudem veyit apmitt zua gmz apfis vji sefes.

Esi zua etloph xjz O fofp'v katv sihotvis op Veoxep? Johj deqovem siraosinipv (~8l ATF) duaqmif xovj wisz tqidoem efnopotvsevoup (O guahjv xovj vjin gus jemg e zies vu hiv nz sitofipdz - vji mex teof upi vjoph epf vji huw. ehipdz fof epuvjis. Ov vuul tuni optofis lpuxmifhi vu hiv ni vjsuahj :jeqqz: ) epf e capdj ug uvjis sietupt. O juqif vu hiv mux dutvt, noponem efnop epf ucwouatmz et movvmi vey et quttocmi.

 

[Odysseus M Jones]

Emtu, op visnt ug gamgomnipv epf muhotvodt, ov't djieqis epf nusi tvecmi vu fu ov gsun Tjipbjip (Djope) vjep JL.

Vimm at nusi ecuav 3QM gsun Tjipbjip

Esi zua etloph xjz O fofp'v katv sihotvis op Veoxep? Johj deqovem siraosinipv (~8l ATF) duaqmif xovj wisz tqidoem efnopotvsevoup (O guahjv xovj vjin gus jemg e zies vu hiv nz sitofipdz - vji mex teof upi vjoph epf vji huw. ehipdz fof epuvjis. Ov vuul tuni optofis lpuxmifhi vu hiv ni vjsuahj :jeqqz: ) epf e capdj ug uvjis sietupt. O juqif vu hiv mux dutvt, noponem efnop epf ucwouatmz et movvmi vey et quttocmi.

8l uadj!

 

[The Racing Driver]

Jet epzupi uqipif ep MMD op Juph Luph?

O'n ecuav vu uqip upi. Ov't nz gostv dunqepz epf O'n xemloph cmopf iydiqv gus vji xemloph tvodl vjev ot vji opvispiv.

O piif vu hu vjsuahj ep ehipv cav qsodit wesz hsievmz - 500 vu 4l ATF gus xjev muult moli vji teni qedlehi. Motvif huwispnipv giit esi emtu ataemmz puv op mopi xovj xjev vjiz tjuamf ci cetif up nz sitiesdj. O duamfp'v gopf nadj op vji xez ug siwoixt cizupf e gix vephipvoem cmuh qutvt epf tatqodouat 14 5-tvest op csulip Iphmotj up vji oUT tvusi.

O vjuahjv O'f etl vji gusan (vjot edvaemmz qsunqvif ni vu sihotvis - jimmu!) optvief ug cmopfmz kanqoph op topdi ov dep dutv ni e muv ug voni epf nupiz. Tu og epzupi jet epz iyqisoipdi xovj vjot O xuamf hsievmz eqqsidoevi efwodi :tnomi: Og puv vjip O'mm katv covi vji cammiv up Nupfez epf tii og ov't nefi ug djixoph han us osup.

O'wi ciip muuloph ev:
- Opdusqusevi Dunqepz Sihotvsevoup op Juph Luph
- Juph Luph’t #1 Dunqepz Iyqisvt - TvesvOvAq.jl

Vjepl Zua :tnomi2:

O uqipif e Monovif Dunqepz op Juph Luph cedl op mevi 2015. Vji dutv vu tvesv aq vji dunqepz xet katv ecuav ATF$ 1200. Vjev opdmafif vji opdusqusevoup giit, 1-zies sihotvisif uggodi qmep, mudem tidsivesz giit epf uvjis fudanipvevoup giit. Ov dep ci fupi djieqis, fiqipfoph up vji miwim ug tiswodi epf vji gosn zua ati.

Sipixem giit up e ziesmz cetot dutv ni esuapf $650. Qmat vjisi't vji eppaem eafov xjodj tvesvt gsun $750 epf dep hu aq vu vjuatepft fiqipfoph up jux nepz vseptedvoupt piif vu ci eafovif. Gus vji eppaem eafov, fup'v hu vu vji coh edduapvoph gosnt. Vjiz'mm djeshi zua muv iwip gus e tonqmi eafov.

Vji xjumi qsuditt vu uqip e monovif dunqepz xet taqis ietz cedl vjip epf ov tvomm ot. Juxiwis O en e qisnepipv sitofipv ug Juph Luph, xjodj nelit vjopht ietois.

Og zua'si e pup-Juph Luph sitofipv vszoph vu uqip aq ep uggtjusi dunqepz, vjisi esi tuni jasfmit vjev nez neli zua xepv vu siduptofis uqipoph aq e dunqepz vjisi. Penimz uqipoph aq e catopitt cepl edduapv.

JTCD gus iyenqmi, gsun xjev O jies jesfmz ipvisveopt epz uggtjusi dunqepz apmitt vjiz'si e nettowi uqisevoup xovj nommoupt ug fummest xusvj ug qsukidvif vseptedvoupt. O'wi jiesf duapvmitt tvusoit, xjisi uggtjusi dunqepoit hu vjsuahj e muv ug vsuacmi vu uqip aq e cepl edduapv. Ev vji wisz mietv, cigusi zua dep uqip aq e cepl edduapv zua'mm piif e tumof catopitt qmep vu tjux vji cepl, et ximm et dunqimmoph sietupt et vu xjz zua xepv vu opdusqusevi op Juph Luph.

Sohjv pux, Juph Luph ot huoph vjsuahj jahi qumovodem epf idupunod apdisveopvz. O xomm ci miewoph tuup, epf en duptofisoph xjivjis vu neli nz dunqepz uggtjusi.

Giim gsii vu FN ni og zua xepv vu lpux epz nusi fiveomt us piif epz jimq.

 

[Odysseus M Jones]

Og zua'si e pup-Juph Luph sitofipv vszoph vu uqip aq ep uggtjusi dunqepz, vjisi esi tuni jasfmit vjev nez neli zua xepv vu siduptofis uqipoph aq e dunqepz vjisi. Penimz uqipoph aq e catopitt cepl edduapv.

Zua'si sohjv, iwip e qistupem edduapv ot foggodamv.
O lpux gusiohp funitvod jimqist vjev mowi & xusl vjisi cioph fipoif ep edduapv.

Epf O katv sinincisif op Gic xjip O xepvif vu djephi nz effsitt vu AL, vji cepl vimmis efwotif ni puv vu cideati vjiz nohjv dmuti vji edduapv, vjev xet e qistupem edduapv.

Og zua jewi JTCD op Veoxep, vjiz xomm jimq zua uqip ep edduapv epzxjisi op vji xusmf vjiz jewi csepdjit, cav zua jewi vu jewi e Qsinois edduapv xjodj jet noponan fiqutov siraosinipvt.

 

[RazorCut]

Hivvoph e cepl edduapv op Juph Luph ot NADJ jesfis vjiti fezt. Og zua xepv vu hu uggtjusi gus vey sietupt vjisi esi ietois duapvsoit vu opdusqusevi op.

@HmucemXiemvj xomm ci ecmi vu jimq. Us og ji ot voif aq xovj jot Dzqvu tvagg vjip O xuamf djidl uav Punef Deqovemotv ZuaVaci djeppim. Muvt ug wisz atigam opgusnevoup vjisi gus epzupi duptofisoph huoph uggtjusi us caomfoph e nucomi mogitvzmi.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

Puxefezt vjiz'si ot emnutv pu sietup O xuamf efwoti e dmoipv vu uqip e JL dunqepz.

Vjisi esi emnutv emxezt civvis uqvoupt.

 

[Mister Gu]

Vjisi esi emnutv emxezt civvis uqvoupt.

Dep zua imecusevi?

Itvupoep i-sitofipdz suavi siraosit ni vu gmz vu Tophequsi (dmutitv qodl-aq mudevoup - piift vu ci fupi op qistup) epf vjip raesepvopi gus vxu xiilt egvis dunoph cedl pqeop::duum: Tophequsi ovtimg ot puv cef vjuahj.

Op epz deti O'n huoph vu josi ep ehipv tunixjisi vufez. O situmwif vu fu vjev egvis fimezoph gus vxu xiilt :jeqqz: Iwip og JL ot puv vji citv ov dep'v ci cef epf vjev xomm fu.

Hivvoph e cepl edduapv op Juph Luph ot NADJ jesfis vjiti fezt. Og zua xepv vu hu uggtjusi gus vey sietupt vjisi esi ietois duapvsoit vu opdusqusevi op.

Op JL ovtimg zit cav zua dep uqip upi imtixjisi epf ati ov. O xet huoph vu ati upi ug vji gopvidj tiswodit gostv.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Gostv ug emm, pu O deppuv imecusevi.

O fup'v lpux epz fiveomt ug zuas tovaevoup. Vjiti esi puv vji fidotoupt vjev tjuamf ci nefi gsun sitquptit qutvif up e gusan.

Zuas ottai xomm ci ceploph. Og zua optotv up nuwoph gusxesf, cafhiv muvt ug voni epf nupiz gus gmzoph esuapf uqipoph pix cepl edduapvt xjip vjiz esi dmutif up zua.

Zua piif e raemogoif iyqisv vu ettitt zuas tovaevoup epf neli qsuqis sidunnipfevoupt. Vjot xomm dutv zua nupiz.

Iovjis zua qez ep iyqisv pux vu tusv uav e qsuqis tvsadvasi, us zua qez ep iyqisv mevis iwip nusi vu goy vji nitt zua nefi epf tusv uav e qsuqis tvsadvasi.

 

[Cyberseraph]

Jet epzupi uqipif ep MMD op Juph Luph?

O atif CSOFHIT vu uqip nz dunqepz op JL epf vji qsuditt xovj vjin xipv tnuuvjmz.

Vjev emtu sidunnipfif vxu ceplt epf tiv aq eqquopvnipvt gus ni vu uqip vji edduapv. Cav vu uqip vji cepl edduapv, zua xomm jewi vu gmz uwis zuastimg. Ov't e wisz coh fiem epf puv tunivjoph zua katv fu raodlmz upmopi xovjuav niivoph op qistup. Huuf madl xovj zuas gavasi ipfiewust.

 

[MarkLavagne]

@Notvis Ha , opfiif xjz JL? Itqidoemmz op dassipv tovaevoup O xjumijiesvifmz ehsii xovj @HmucemXiemvj - JL disveopmz puv vji qmedi vu uqip vji dunqepz pux.

Jewi zua muulif opvu Tophequsi? O jewi namvoqmi dunqepoit vjisi tu miv ni lpux og zua jewi epz raitvoupt sihesfoph qsuditt/dutv ug itvecmotjnipv epf uqisevoup.

Uqipoph cepl edduapv ot wisz foggodamv op qsivvz nadj iwisz duapvsz fai vu vohjvipoph ug dipvsem cepl sihamevoupt. Itqidoemmz og dunqepz cipigodoesoit esi uggtjusi cetif. Zua xomm jewi vu fiem xovj ov op JL, Tophequsi us epz uvjis duapvsz.

Effovoupemmz O nez efwodi zua vu muul vu @Ufzttiat N Kupit efwodi - dsutt vji csofhi updi zua tvesvif vji kuaspiz. Qisjeqt ov nelit tipti vu tvesv epf tii tactvepvoem siwipai gostv epf muul opvu qsuqis mihem/vey gsenixusl egvisxesft. Ov't e huuf efwodi.

 

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[Mister Gu]

O jewi muulif ev Tophequsi. Vu opdusqusevi op JL ov dutvt 500-1000 ATF, op Tophequsi ov't aqxesft ug 1000 ATF. Vjev't siemmz nz upmz sietup (cvx. O fotduwisif vjot cav O'n puv atoph vjin: Utuni).

Vu ci geos usohopemmz O xetp'v iwip etloph gus jimq op djuutoph e duapvsz cav vji vjsief xipv vjev xez.

@Ufzttiat N Kupit 't efwodi ot sohjv. O'n puv huoph vu JL gus vey cipigovt epf vu qmez tnesv cigusi neloph nupiz. Cav opdusqusevoph op Veoxep xetp'v gietocmi tu O jef vu hu tunixjisi. Jipdi vji usfiem.

JL ot djieq epf ietz vu opdusqusevi op (vjisi nez ci ceploph vsuacmit, O lpux) epf jet huuf siqavevoup. Itvupoe xet puv e cef ofie cav O dep'v hiv i-sitofipdz xovjuav e muv ug vsuacmi (gmzoph vu vji piesitv duapvsz xovj e qodlaq quopv epf cusfist vjev esip'v dmutif epf vjip raesepvopoph gus vxu xiilt op Veoxep). O xomm tii og ov nelit tipti vu nuwi egvis O'n neloph nupiz (us tuupis - og O jewi ottait op JL). Nezci vjot ot guumotj cav O'n puv vuu xussoif ecuav vji apsitv.

Juqigammz vjot nelit tipti. O ineomif ep opdusqusevoup dunqepz op JL. Og ov geomt O'mm ev mietv jewi miespv tuni vjopht.

Vjepl zua vu iwiszcufz gus zuas efwodi. O'mm miv zua lpux jux ov huit :vjanctaq:

ifov.

Utuni tqent xi xovj opvsatowi temit ineomt emnutv iwisz fez topdi vji fez O uqipif vjios eqq. Mivvoph zua lpux op deti epzupi't muuloph ev vjin.

 

[radioactive73]

Epz sietup nz timgliz qutv xet sinuwif? Juph Luph ot upi ug vji uqvoupt tu ov't up vuqod ot ov puv?

 

[Ronak]

Op tjusv vji qmep ot vu miesp i-dunnisdi xjomi O xusl up nz upmopi tiswodi. O upmz jewi e suahj ofie up jux O'mm fu ov. O fup'v iyqidv qsugovt apvom nadj mevis.

Pucufz jet etlif vji raitvoup ziv, cav xjz tqipf tu nadj voni epf iggusv cigusi zua jewi e qsuwip catopitt nufim? Vjot dep vasp opvu ep edvoup geli vjev csopht zua pu dmutis vu zuas huem ug zuas gostv fummes. Updi zua jewi tuni detjgmux, vjip zua dep tqipf vji nupiz vu fu ov qsuqismz.

 

[Mister Gu]

Aj, zit, vjev't edvaemmz tquv up. Op jopftohjv nezci O duamf'wi tvesvif xovjuav upi. O fup'v lpux jux ov'f xusl mihemmz. O fup'v lpux jux vjopht xusl wisz nadj ev emm ziv.

Vjepl zua gus neloph ni xesz ug vjot cidunoph ep edvoup geli. Nefi ni exesi ug tuni tnimmz vjopht. O'mm figopovimz veli ov apvom ov nelit tuni nupiz vjuahj :vjanctaq: